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cross
10-06-2004, 03:15 PM
I don't mean to make this a jab at Brian or the book at all but is there an explanation for why the book costs so much for being a 660 page paperback? Independent publishing? Cost of expensive yellow ink on cover? You get what you pay for?

I really want to buy this but 33 dollars is like my grocery money for the month.. :( Maybe I missed the explanation a long time ago- if so I am sorry.

Just curious. I still will buy it eventually. (maybe that is Brian's plan, he knows his fanbase is rabid and will buy the book no matter what the cost and is just waiting us out for a further profit.)

Lycanthrope
10-06-2004, 03:21 PM
Essentially, this book is the size of your average coursebook, which sell for up to three times this amount. The reason why books you usually purchaise are cheap: mass production on a vast scale.

My Lead Airbag
10-06-2004, 03:28 PM
Actually thats pretty borderline/fair for a novel that size.

CHICAGO¤lollie
10-06-2004, 05:18 PM
And it's a very, very recent release. It probably won't get marked down for a little while, so in the meantime, save what you can, search the couch for hidden change, etc.
The book shall be in your posession soon enough.

660 pages? Hoo boy, I can't wait to get that book!

Kurosen
10-06-2004, 05:24 PM
It is expensive because:

Independent publishing always costs more.

Large books cost more.

Books with many pages cost more.

This is an independently published book with large dimensions and many pages. Three strikes against the price!

I went around and around with the publisher to do anything to reduce the price to something more agreeable and they wouldn't budge.

Corneria Guard#4
10-06-2004, 05:33 PM
It was $3 overpriced......My mom wouldn't let me buy it ;_;

If only it was slightly cheaper...

Maybe you could sell it for a slightly cheaper price through ebay accounts?

Zero
10-06-2004, 05:41 PM
The book is $7 cheaper than the Star Wars RPG: Revised Core Rulebook.

So to put the matter in plain words, I will stick to my ripping off of Wizards of the Coast, and buy the book in hopes that Brian gets a small percent of the profit (he needs it). It's not too big of a deal. We can wait for the video game that just got released; it probably won't sell that well, and will go down in price in a month or two(such as Breakdown, Gunvalkyrie, and every game known to man except for the extreme best sellers).

My only thought is if it's hardback or paperback. I'm guessing and hoping the former, due to unconventional means of carrying books (my backpack likes to tear them apart behind my back).

Cyclone231
10-06-2004, 05:41 PM
33 dollars? That's expensive! I don't have much. I'll just buy it later, when the price goes down...

On a completely unrelated note, Brian, you can show the tag without introducing visible errors into it. Look: .

Stover
10-06-2004, 05:56 PM
33 dollars? That's expensive! I don't have much. I'll just buy it later, when the price goes down...

On a completely unrelated note, Brian, you can show the tag without introducing visible errors into it. Look: .

I think its easier to just italicize the =.

Either way, sorry, but 32 is too much for me right now, I'm saving for something different.

BlackMageGirl!
10-06-2004, 06:50 PM
33 dollars?!? :eek:

I guess I could get it. It would just mean no anime for a month. That shows how much I want to read it, my anime usually comes first. (is a crazed anime fan)

Kain S. Branford
10-06-2004, 07:02 PM
Wow... all these posts explain so much to me right now. Not surprising though...

NOTE: Admins... forgiveness please for short, somewhat unrelated post.

Meister
10-06-2004, 07:02 PM
And now imagine living in Europe for which amazon.com adds another 5 bucks for shipping. Man, can't amazon.co.uk at least carry the thing?

I am going to pay it, I know it. I think I'll wait for the signed ZeStuff version though, so it really pays off.

Kain S. Branford
10-06-2004, 07:03 PM
Give Amazon.co.uk a while. They'll carry it.

Illuminatus
10-06-2004, 09:15 PM
I don't know if I can shell out $32, but I will get this book. As a writer myself, I feel Brian's terrible journey deserves at least that.

My Lead Airbag
10-06-2004, 09:28 PM
Hmm...how much are you getting 'per book' Brian? Are you at liberty to divulge that kind of stuff?

And since I just finished the Dark Tower, and got my paycheck, I'll go to B&N and see if they have it.

Terex4
10-06-2004, 09:43 PM
Two words: Tax Season

Then I'll have all kinds of cash with which to buy the book. Hopefully the signed copies won't have come and gone by then......

Bob the Mercenary
10-06-2004, 09:57 PM
It was $3 overpriced......My mom wouldn't let me buy it ;_;

If only it was slightly cheaper...

Maybe you could sell it for a slightly cheaper price through ebay accounts?

What has our world come to where a parent won't buy their kid a book they want? Not a video game. A book! Your kid wants to read! You should be thankful!

[Edit] And it was just your birthday!? Hell, I'm almost willing to throw in the extra three bucks myself. The nerve!

darkt0aster
10-06-2004, 10:11 PM
I'm spending too much money on stuff lately for a college kid (Evil Genius PC game, NA book, and soon Vampire The Masquerade PC game). I'll just have to play it poor for awhile, but it'll be an enjoyable kind of poor with these 3 in my posession :D

Nimbus
10-06-2004, 11:53 PM
Already ordered the book, I'm looking at $55 for this one. (Hard Back canadian.) I went into a new book shop that opened up 3 weeks ago to order a book released 1 week ago... Yay hehe.

LordZoma
10-07-2004, 12:49 AM
Thirty Three bucks is the perfect price for a masterpiece like Nuklear Age by Brian Clevinger. C'mon people, it's the written work of the author of 8-bit theater. Sure, everyone loves sprite comics, but this shit is his baby. His piece di resistance! I for one, am definitely going to get my hands on a copy of the book. As an author searching for a NON-independent publisher, I know the problems, and the heart ache that comes with dealing with those facist bastards. Brian has almost no control over issues of price, just in CONTENT, and I'm absolutely sure he's done his best to make sure that our money provides us with humor galore.

I will pick up the book as soon as signed copies become available. I insist that you all do the same!!!

--Zoma

Lycanthrope
10-07-2004, 01:15 AM
I just need to get a way to get it. All my monies is in cold hard cash so I can't by anything via the internet.

Cyclone231
10-07-2004, 01:35 AM
Just because Clevinger writes a good comic doesn't mean he would write a good novel. They're very different.

Illuminatus
10-07-2004, 01:42 AM
Just because Clevinger writes a good comic doesn't mean he would write a good novel. They're very different.

Blasphemy!

Lycanthrope
10-07-2004, 01:58 AM
Yeah, I'd say that writing a comic is harder. Just look how many good books there are compared to how many good comics there are.

Osterbaum
10-07-2004, 02:51 AM
I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm gonna buy this book, no matter what it costs! Even if I'l have to travel to the states to get it. But I'm gonna wait for the signed version. 33$ Is a bit less in €, but they will charge me the shipping fee...But no matter!

Kurosen
10-07-2004, 02:52 AM
Cyclone is right. But 8-bit Theater has the same style of writing I use in my book. The only difference is one has pictures while the other doesn't. So in this case, it's a pretty safe bet that if you like one you'll like the other.

CHICAGO¤lollie
10-07-2004, 06:47 AM
Now I know I'm gonna get the book.
For all you folk complaining about $32.95, shaddup and be thankful for it! You get some more cash in a few weeks.

Australia's the cheap country. America's the money country. The book isn't gonna come cheap, but it'll sure as hell be worth it.

QueenQeeko
10-07-2004, 06:50 AM
For us Australians to get it, it'll be more like $65 Australian.

The Hedgehog
10-07-2004, 07:24 AM
It'll probably take me a long while to get it, but I'll make sure I buy it. The comics rock, and I'm really looking forward to this book.

On a completely unrelated note (I would've made a new topic but I don't think it would've been worth it), the "spoiler" code doesn't really work, seeing as how the background isn't completely black, and so I'm still able to easily read the text. Instead of why not make it ? That way, it's completely invisible.

My pants are rather awesome, don't you think?

Instead of

My pants are rather awesome, don't you think?

Osterbaum
10-07-2004, 07:28 AM
That would seem to work.

I will post all the spoilers like that from now on! Thought at the time I get the book, everyone else has read it allready.

Grahf
10-07-2004, 09:13 AM
Hedgehog, it might just be your monitor settings, or whatever affects how the website looks. To me, both of those blacked out texts you posted looked exactly the same.

As to the book, I will buy it when I have enough money for it, which should hopefully be soon, although waiting for a signed copy would be awesome, so I may consider that.

The Hedgehog
10-07-2004, 09:53 AM
You are probably right, but then again, I think my suggestion still helps those who have the same settings as I do. It'll make sure that no matter what settings you use, the background color and the text color match, making it a simple, fool-proof way to use spoilers.

Osterbaum
10-07-2004, 10:40 AM
For me that works so that I can only see the text when painting it. So it blends to the backround.

reality_deviant
10-07-2004, 11:34 AM
I like comic books, but I read too fast for them to be an economical investment. A superhero book with a length of 660 pages has therefore got me rather excited. I plan to have purchased NA before the end of December. I simply can't guarantee the extra finances for it this month, but rest assured, it shall be purchased. Gamer geeks should aid their kinsmen.

Dante
10-07-2004, 11:44 AM
Your money is 1.7x mine, so your $33 booke is $50 in my money, not counting shipping, which can easily jack the total price up to $100+...

I'll have to wait on this, my corporal's pay sucks too damn much for me to afford it. Still, if the reviews are rave enough it may be worth a shot...

Thaumaturge
10-07-2004, 11:58 AM
Hmm... $33 is roughly R215, so getting the book means quite a bit of money to me (on par with lesser computer upgrades, which I also want...). Nevertheless, there's a pretty decent chance that I'll get it. Eventually.

Illuminatus
10-07-2004, 01:10 PM
The price WILL go down...and then I'll be there...

Waiting...

gizmodude4
10-07-2004, 03:00 PM
On an unrelated note, how much is Brian going to get for every copy sold? 'Cause if Amazon.com is any indicator, Brian is gonna be rollin' in cash if he get's a good cut of the profits.

cross
10-07-2004, 03:57 PM
Ok, I knew that questioning anything about the book would get responses but I didn't really plan on starting a thread that would have this many.

Anyway, I guess my question is cleared up. I just need to check out my finances to decide about when/if I will buy a) a new butterfly knife b)grand theft auto: sa c)halloween costume d)the book of course

edit:// oh yea, and if can get a signed copy and stuff

Loyal
10-07-2004, 04:17 PM
Now for MY question:

Is it available in local bookstores?! I MUST KNOW!!!

I want that book, but I hate internet shopping. Quite the dilemma...

CHICAGO¤lollie
10-08-2004, 07:30 AM
Well, the idea that was put around (that I saw, at least) is that you can order the book through a book store, given you give the details that need giving, so give damn you!

Kain S. Branford
10-08-2004, 07:49 AM
That depends on the bookstore, and if the book in question is on their order list. It's weird how the process works sometimes. Major chains can be jerks, but depending on the demand, they can provide it.

CHICAGO¤lollie
10-08-2004, 08:25 AM
Whether for the cheaper or the expensiver, in contrast to "the better or the worse."

Loyal
10-08-2004, 09:13 AM
...Hmm, I just had a silly thought:

I could use Nuklear Age (When I get it... I WILL get it!!) for my summer reading next year!! Okay, yeah, I'm senile sometimes...

I'll have to go to the nearest bookstore about Nuklear Age once I'm "no longer sick" (I love faking it. Easy way out of school). Yyyyyyyep.

Slackbot
10-08-2004, 11:15 AM
Last week I went to Waldenbooks and asked of they had the book. They didn't, which was no surprise, as it seems even Amazon has been having trouble getting copies into their inventories. ("Not yet released." "Usually ships in 2-3 days." "Usually ships in 7-10 days." "Okay, we'll send 'em out whenever we get them.") I asked if it was in their system, and they looked it up on the computer by title and author name. No dice. Next time I go I'll ask again, see if the chain can at least order it.

Kain S. Branford
10-08-2004, 11:30 AM
See, the thing about that is individual chain stores don't usually get to make the choices of what books go on the shelves. That goes up the higher powers that be. Since I don't know the exact details of the publisher Brian went with, it may take a few weeks or even months for the major chains to even know it exists.

Of course, by showing enough demand the powers that be may look upon Nuklear Age and give it an OK. If you know any independent stores, ask them. They'll honor your request for a special order. Chain bookstores might, but who knows when that'll happen. If there isn't enough demand for the book, they won't care. Simple as that. So if you're griping about price and don't want to buy from Amazon, wait a while.

BlackDragon99
10-09-2004, 08:31 AM
You know, I'm really amazed at all of you that are complaining so much about the price. For one, like Brian has mentioned, the book is freaking huge, 660 pages and from what I remember it has pretty large dimensions as well. Besides that, he's been providing us for free entertainment every other day, so paying thirty bucks for a book doesn't really seem like that big of a deal to me. This isn't something he threw together in two days, he's been working on this since before 2000. I know I'm going to be getting this book in the next few days, and I'm confident it'll be worth every penny.l

Meister
10-09-2004, 12:11 PM
Well spoken.

Illuminatus
10-09-2004, 12:47 PM
There are a lot of expensive things that are worth every penny, that doesn't mean I can afford them.

EVILNess
10-09-2004, 03:31 PM
I'd pay the $32.95 if just for the spiffy, yet corneal burning, front cover. If people don't just buy his book because the cover intriuges them, then I will be very surprised.

BlackMageGirl!
10-09-2004, 04:07 PM
I agree with I8stupidppl. I know that it is worth it. I actually want to buy this very badly. I am a college student, thus I am supporting myself. But I cannot afford it! I have no funds available to buy this great book! I can barely pay for my tuition as it is.

If people complaining about the price surprises you, let me tell you something.....there are people in this world that cannot just buy what they want. Sometimes they really want to, but they have not the resources.

So, think a little more before saying something like that okay?

Kain S. Branford
10-09-2004, 06:33 PM
You know, I think this whole thing has gone as far as it can possibly go. The price is high, this is established. Reasons have been given why that is so, and Brian himself has said that if he could've made the price lower he would have. It's also quite clear and understandable that most of you run a tight budget or don't even have the means to order via the net since it would require some sort of credit card to buy said book.

So those of you who can order and/or have "Nuklear Age," your enthusiasm is commendable, but don't prod people just to show how much of a fan you are. It's fair to say any fan of this comic and Brian Clevinger is going to get it, just at their own liesure. The only person who probably has the right to be impatient is Brian himself. I'm sure he's sitting on the edge of his seat waiting for some feedback on the book... feedback that's fair and doesn't involve the words "like the Tick."

So don't stress over the price of the book, or who cannot buy it do to lack of funding. In due time I'm sure there will be enough people in the chorus to sing praises.

BakaNeko
10-11-2004, 12:55 PM
I don't care for the price personnally... the problem is that I can't buy it.. I went in many librairies and they can't get it for me over amazone.com =( ..

And I must say it's the first time I want to buy a book... that is not anime... and not in my native langage o.o

Btw, I'm french, and.. what is "The Tick" ? I saw many thing about it and don't know what it is..

Kain S. Branford
10-11-2004, 02:15 PM
The Tick is a camp (in the non-tent using sense) cartoon here in America that started back in the mid 90's starring an astoundingly massive fellow in a blue tick costume who teams up with an accountant in a moth costume to battle the forces of (mostly inept) evil.

The show in itself was very much over the top. Many of the heroes who would appear to help or associate with the Tick had hero names that were commonly a play on words like "American Maid" or "Die Fledermaus." In other instances they were just weird. Tick himself had one classic catch phrase in the form of his battlecry--"SPOON!"

Anyway, the show has a strong cult following (far as I know) and an attempt was made sometime ago to make a live-action Tick series. It was put to sleep soon after being unleashed, however. I think that's all there is too it. Not sure if the Tick had any comicbook life or other presence.

zdude255
10-11-2004, 07:49 PM
Eh, $33 is still kinda expensive, but since I hear that stocks are low and that signed copies are on the way, I may wait a bit. I recently forked $20 for the daily show's book and it was great.

I may just get Brian to sign it at some anime con. That or find his house (~30 min from me) and start stalking him till he gives in. Either works.

Bells
10-12-2004, 02:52 AM
i really wanted thsi book... but 33 dolars + shiipping are somewhat of 210 bucks on Brazilian cash... so thats off for me...

Hey Brian, do what every almost every creep talented website owner does, make some promotion or contest with the book as a prize! for daaaaaaaamn sure there will be a lot of people trying it