Albannar Discussion Thread 4

[Dragonsbane]

Kamifuko requested it, and behold! It was done!

well, shall we continue the ooc discussion?

[Foamy]

I think we were talking about lycanthropes. but i think that discussion is over. what now?

[Kamifuko]

Thanks DB. Please post OOC comments about Albannar here. (Yeah, I like I really need to keep putting that.)

[Forever Zero]

Wait, when did the discussion on Werewolves end? So can we become a werewolf or not? And if we can, do we control it or not?

[Kamifuko]

I didn't notice the whole werewolf conversation...I'll have to look it over before I say you can turn into one or not. Sorry.

[Foamy]

isn't your character already created, FZ? are you planning on becoming a werewolf? that would be a nice addition to our pallette of characters. i would prefer another girl, though. i mean come on i'm the only girl in this group. how many guys are there total?

[Forever Zero]

No problem. I don't think we really came to any great conclusion. The two ideas seemed to be:

1. If you contract lycanthropey[sic?], you turn into a werewolf at night, but you can control it.

2. If you contract lycanthropey, you turn into a werewolf at night, and you cannot control it.

EDIT: I might contract Lycanthropy. Could be interesting. And most people are more comfortable role-playing the sex they are, thus there are more guys then girls in most role-plays.

[Kamifuko]

isn't your character already created, FZ? are you planning on becoming a werewolf? that would be a nice addition to our pallette of characters. i would prefer another girl, though. i mean come on i'm the only girl in this group. how many guys are there total?
If you really want, I may make a female PC later if I get really bored. :)

[Foamy]

I would say that over time you begin to control it and if you get really good at it you can transform during the day too.

[Forever Zero]

That sounds like a system that could work. Perhaps at first if Vace became a lycanthrope, he would have to drink a special potion to control it, but over time he is able to control it on his own.

[IHateMakingNames]

I vote no werewolf.

But, if it happens anyway, I say no potion to control it. That's like beoming a vampire then drinking a potion so the sun doesn't bother you.

[Forever Zero]

But you have your cloaks and thick clothing to protect you from the sun... A werewolf would just turn mindless until you could learn to control the werewolf's mind.

[Foamy]

Well i mean we get special cloaks to protect us. so the werewolf PC should be able to control themselves over time.

[IHateMakingNames]

Dirk's cloak isn't special. It's just a normal cloak with a leather underlayer. The vampires still have the weakness of sun light (Just take off the cloak). You can't take the potion out of a werewolf.

If you are going to be a werewolf, you take the weaknesses (Being mindless for the first couple of months).


Edit - Also, are vampires hated and hunted in this world, or hated and tolerated?

[Foamy]

well, I would say that we are hated and slightly tolerated. at the first chance the mortals get they would kill us with any excuse.

[Forever Zero]

Perhaps the potion has a downside. It makes it controllable, but it does so by stopping the transformation haflway. Thus, a person with Lycanthropy can slowly build up their ability to control their new body, then stop taking the potion when they have the full power to control it.

[IHateMakingNames]

But then you are relying on a potion to control half of the werewolf, so once you stop using it you have no back up support for control and the full werewolf would probably take over.

[Foamy]

I can live with that. like have ther person be able to walk on their hind legs, be very furry, able to talk, has the facial features of a wolf, and has paws instead of hands, but can still use thumbs.

[Forever Zero]

Most likely not. If you can control half the werewolf with ease, the full werewolf won't just overwhelm you. You can probably at least stop it from going crazy, and then you just need to work on getting control of it. For a few days, you basically can do next to nothing in werewolf form as you wrestle with it's full raw might, then you learn how to get control.

As to how it looked, I imagined it looked like Chewbacca... A really tall, really hairy humanoid... Thus it sucks while in Werewolf form until you can go full werewolf...

[IHateMakingNames]

If the potion itself is helping you to control the wolf, then once you stopped using it you would no longer have it's help and would succumb to the wolf.

If all it does is stop the transformation half way, it's not even worth it. It would still take a week or two to control half a werewolf so you're not just a wild creature, and then you are just a slightly stronger hairy human who can't use his electric attacks (Werewolves usually can't use their human abilities while werewolves), so it's not even worth it.

[Foamy]

I thought the werewolf would look like this
http://www.pinky.ne.jp/~aogachou/junk/werewolf.jpg

[Forever Zero]

It wouldn't take weeks. They could conquer some pretty strong instinct in Animorphs in under an hour. I wouldn't even have to control the mind, just guide it. Don't eat my allies, instead eat my enemies, and then let the werewolf mind do it's thing. Vace is fairly strong willed, so he could at least guide the Werewolf mind at first, then as time passes he could fully control it.

And I agree on the no lightning powers in werewolf form.

EDIT: That is a full fledged werewolf, I was talking about what a Half-Werewolf would look like if I used the potion that way.

[IHateMakingNames]

Animorphs... Puh...

And even then, they are just turning into a normal animal for an hour (Or two, I forgot). A werewolf is a magically enhanced killing machine. That, and half of the werewolf stories don't have any control at all (Like Van Helsing). Usually if there is control, the werewolf isn't as strong as a raging werewolf. Human with electricity is more useful then a werewolf.

[Foamy]

oh! i thought a full werewolf was like a werewolf in Wolf's Rain. a total wolf. but that's cool too. you read animorphs?! i used to read them then i just tired of it. we could do the werewolf thing that way though, it seems more practical.

[IHateMakingNames]

oh! i thought a full werewolf was like a werewolf in Wolf's Rain. a total wolf. but that's cool too. you read animorphs?! i used to read them then i just tired of it. we could do the werewolf thing that way though, it seems more practical.

Vampires do that... The point of a werewolf is to become an incredibly strong and fast wolf monster.

[h4x.m4g3]

Unfortunately the Animorphous series ended I recommend picking up the last book #56 or so... anyone in Wolf's Rain their Wolves hiding out as humans at times not actual Warewolves.

[Foamy]

Kami maybe you could speed things up by poofing the others to our location. we're getting into the third chapter here for goodness sake. we need to start killing some things.

[Kamifuko]

If they don't mind, then I guess I could have Oslon teleport them there. :)

[Foamy]

good. and we should just stick to the thing where as over time the werewolf begins to control the wolf side and finally is capable of being a wolf at anytime, not just during a full moon or so.

[Forever Zero]

It was two hours that they could morph.

And a 9 foot tall beast that can rip through steel like it's paper and hurl one ton stone blocks like they're toys isn't useful? Man, I wish I had gotten that memo...

And Vace could just warn his allies to get back, and unleash the werewolf if he really needed to if a raging one is more powerful then a controlled one. Otherwise it would just be a bonus at night that gives him a second side, and makes him more flexible. He can use his lightning powers by day, or gain super-strength by night.

That is why I posed the question to Kamifuko however, of whether or not a werewolf could be controlled at all...

EDIT: As to the teleportation thing, once Dante gets on it should move at a good rate, so maybe it can wait...

[Royalspork]

ok, are db, bmg and h4x. in the castle or not?
And to be a werewolf you shound get wolfish cravings.

[IHateMakingNames]

He's already Vace the electric fighter, we don't need to add werewolf to the end of that. It's like turning Dirk the vampire bowmen and adding with telekentic powers to the end of it.

And the werewolf you just said if WoD, most other ones don't chuck around boulders (Though they do rip through steel, but you can do that with a sword and a really good swing).

[Foamy]

you really want to be a werewolf, huh? *flexible, eh? j/k* This arguement is just turning into you two saying the same thing over and over again.

[h4x.m4g3]

I think we're outside somewhere... Dante........when was the last time he posted anyway?
if we are going to have warewolves...I believe someone said against it before but I suggest the Morrowind warewolf style at night you tuurn into the warewolf... if everyone in town sees you transform then they hunt down your human form as well. You control the warewolf but you must kill and devour x-amount of people.

[Forever Zero]

You think THIS is repetative, you should get us debating if Megaman could beat Samus Aran...

But the point is made. Perhaps we should wait for Kamifuko's decision on this matter then.

Although I disagree on the super-strong werewolf remark. Most make them out to be that powerful. In Van Helsing, that Prince was pretty powerful...

[Royalspork]

and if your injured in wolf form then the injury stays when in human form

Do you know what would be cool a were-human aka a wolf bitten by a human.

[Forever Zero]

Wha... That doesn't even make sense...

And the Morrowind system doesn't make a lot of sense. Why do you need to eat people? Wouldn't any animal to do sustain a werewolf?

[IHateMakingNames]

I say no werewolf at all. It's just an extra thing that is not needed any more, and I dislike adding in new things to characters after the third thread (Vace isn't suddenly and randomly going to get bitten).

And most wolves don't chuck around one ton things (Or any...), and the Prince lost to a puny human with some toys...

[Foamy]

hey IHMN can we change it to were i was one of your victims? it would make the story a bite interesting.

[h4x.m4g3]

Do you know what would be cool a were-human aka a wolf bitten by a human.
Then you would turn into something similar to a warewolf....yet be compelled to follow your human desires aka greed and lust?

[IHateMakingNames]

hey IHMN can we change it to were i was one of your victims? it would make the story a bite interesting.

If you want, sure. Dirk's bound to have some bastard vampires around after living for 1000+ years.

If you are planning on recognizing him in the dark while he is wearing a cloak and a mask though, then I'm going to have to argue against being able to do that...

[Foamy]

i g2g for a minute later.

[Royalspork]

Then you would turn into something similar to a werewolf....yet be compelled to follow your human desires aka greed and lust?
or be full human. it is such a interesting idea that I will have that in a character some time soon!

edit:a elf were-human, a dwarf were-human, a bird were-human the ideas don't stop!!!

[Forever Zero]

Vace isn't suddenly and randomly going to get bitten

No, but if we ever fought against werewolves...

And the Prince got beaten by the most skilled Monster Hunter on Earth, who had the power of Silver Bullets and Movie Magic on his side...

EDIT: You're right, the bad ideas just don't stop...

[h4x.m4g3]

but still what would it's desires be...

[IHateMakingNames]

No, but if we ever fought against werewolves...

Then it's randomly adding in a power that will be a hassle more then it is worth (RPs tend to last half a year at most if they actually finish), most of that will be your guy freaking out and attacking, being a worthless furry thing at the night, and us trying to find ingredients and make a potion for every night.

And the Prince got beaten by the most skilled Monster Hunter on Earth, who had the power of Silver Bullets and Movie Magic on his side...

As I said, a puny human with some toys.

[Royalspork]

to be human with some (few) of it's own disires

human: greedy, powerhungry, love, building smarts, but less nature smarts

[Kamifuko]

Okay, once Dante gets on, I'll teleport the other Chosen Ones. :) As for the werewolf thing, I'm not sure. But, I'll probably add them as enemies later on, so you can keep your hopes up.
Edit:I may just do it now, just to get things going.

[Forever Zero]

Then it's randomly adding in a power that will be a hassle more then it is worth (RPs tend to last half a year at most if they actually finish), most of that will be your guy freaking out and attacking, being a worthless furry thing at the night, and us trying to find ingredients and make a potion for every night.

1. Vace is strong willed, I doubt it would take him more then a week to control the werewolf form.

2. I could drop that and just let him wrestle with the werewolf mind right off the bat. It wouldn't be impossible to conquer, and he wouldn't be incapable of doing anything even if he couldn't 100% control the werewolf. Like I said, he could try to guide it's instincts in a different direction until he has 100% control.

3. The ingrediants could easily be bought in bulk at a standard magic shop.

But until we battle a werewolf, this discussion is academic...

[h4x.m4g3]

Ugggh I'll be going offfline now

Edit: Well if your going to do it now I may stay on.

[IHateMakingNames]

Well, let's just hope that Dirk doesn't accidently get scratched as well...

[Forever Zero]

There are no Vampire/Werewolf hybrids. Kamifuko already ruled on that. Thus, your threat is empty.

[IHateMakingNames]

Ok, fine. Let's hope that the werewolf doesn't bite or scratch all of the humans as well as Vace. Then we'll have a full team of raging werewolves killing eachother.

Or, you know, the super powerful werewolf just killing Vace in the first place.

[Forever Zero]

If he took a bite or blow, Vace could send an electric charge into it and throw it off. Even electricity was able to stun the Prince and slow him down until his body restored itself.

[IHateMakingNames]

If he took a bite, he would turn into a werewolf right there and lose control (First time and unexpected, no chance, even for strong willed), and if he took a blow the werewolf is already right next to you, it could just rip off Vace's head while being electrified.

[Forever Zero]

You don't do much at all when your being electrocuted except twitch and hope that you get blown off of whatever is electrocuting you before it kills you...

And would he? Lycanthropy is a disease, so wouldn't it take time to run through his body and infect all his cells before it began to work? I would think it would need at least 24 hours to work. He still wouldn't be ready for the first change when it happened though.

Or we could do it like Van Helsing, and you don't change into a full fledged werewolf until your first Full Moon.

[Royalspork]

we need a new chapter!!!!!!

[Kamifuko]

Way ahead of you. I just put it up, so check it out. We're finally getting somewhere. :) Hope that DB and Dante get here soon...
Edit:I'll have to leave for a bit, I have to eat dinner soon.

[IHateMakingNames]

If that is the case, don't you think your electricity is over powered? You could just zap anyone and they can't do anything because of muscle spasms. And unlike magic, Vace can do it often and long.

He has a couple of minutes to prepare then. Either way, first transformation he isn't going to be doing much controlling (If any). At msot he might take over and turn around when he is about to kill some one (That is counting strong willed. Normal people can't even remember being a werewolf).

Then werewolf transformations would just be every Full Moon (Or should be) if the first has to be on a Full Moon.

[h4x.m4g3]

Actually when your electrocuted all your muscles tense so if he had a grip on you. Electricity would only cause his grip to tighten which would kill you since he can rip through metal and whatnot.

[Royalspork]

well if you read back to my sign up I got a bow, so I could have shot it right after the werewolf attacks.

[IHateMakingNames]

well if you read back to my sign up I got a bow, so I could have shot it right after the werewolf attacks.

So? A small piece of sharp wood won't affect a werewolf.

And Dirk has two bows, and is much better with them then your guy is.

[Royalspork]

yea but the bite would make it hard to shoot. and what is our ruling on silver to werewolves?

edit: h4x. you just took my 'I'm hiding from someone' position

[IHateMakingNames]

yea but the bite would make it hard to shoot. and what is our ruling on silver to werewolves?

The first part doesn't even make sense, so I'll skip to the silver. Silver is the major weakness, but you will not have silver arrows unless you're expecting a werewolf. Why? Because it would cost way to much to buy silver arrows since you use arrows once.

[Forever Zero]

Well, that's what a Storm Genasi does... It's what was recommened, and the GM approved it...

Pretty much no matter what, his first transformation will be ugly, I agree with that.

That doesn't make a ton of sense though. In Van Helsing, after the first full moon "Activated" the lycanthropy, as soon as a werewolf was exposed to the moon after that they turned into a werewolf... Actually, the Prince turned into a werewolf permenantly, but the Van Helsing werewolf turned into a werewolf only when the moon was on him... Let's just ignore Van Helsing werewolves, because they don't seem very consistent...

As to the last, most werewolves don't grab on as much as they claw at and bite. If he was clawed, the shock would keep the werewolf from finishing him off immediatly. If he was bitten, then he could do a low grade shock to hurt the wolf and make it let go, then do a full on blast once it lets go to keep it stunned.

And yes, Silver is the best way to kill a Werewolf. Basically nothing else has the punch to do it and overcome a werewolf's incredible regenerative powers.

[h4x.m4g3]

If you had been reading my post I've been trying to hide since we first started out toward the castle so it's only understandable

Edit: What I was saying that if the warewolf was holding you or chomping down on a bodypart a shock that continuously ran through the warewolf would actually increase the damage he did. A short shock might cause it to yelp and get away from you though.

[Royalspork]

but a silver pike head that would be ok, right?

being bit would make it hard to shoot an arrow.

[IHateMakingNames]

Making Vace into a werewolf is to god moddy anyway. He is already the strongest physically of the humans (And probably stronger then the female vampire), then he would just be turning into the strongest period.

being bit would make it hard to shoot an arrow.

No duh...

[Royalspork]

the werewolf topic isn't just for fz, you know?

[h4x.m4g3]

Is anyone else going to post in the new RP Thread, come on guys you argue more than you RP

[Forever Zero]

Bah, fine, I'll give up on turning into a werewolf for now...

being bit would make it hard to shoot an arrow.

http://img66.photobucket.com/albums/v200/ForeverZeroFinal/f328c19f.jpg

[Royalspork]

that was my answer to IHMN's rebutle on the fact that IHMN has two bows, nothing more.

[IHateMakingNames]

Dirk (My character) has two bows, not Vace (FZ's character).

And even so, it still doesn't matter. An arrow will do nohting to a werewolf but annoy it and make it target you.

[Forever Zero]

Maybe I should have used Dezil instead of Vace... At least Dezil could have made a gun with silver bullets, instead of relying on whimpy silver arrows to try and take down a werewolf...

[Dante]

Now what should I have my character say to move the story along?

[Forever Zero]

"Hey everbody!" might be a good start, as would any greeting that introduces you to teh rest of the group... But you might want to keep your assassin status secret.

[Dante]

"Hi, my name is Bob, and I'm an assassin."

"Hello Bob."

Only got time for one post before evil work calls... bah.

[Forever Zero]

Well we have a human mage, a human warrior, two beings from another earthly plane, and two vampires, I don't think another human assassin would be too odd actually...

[Xennith]

Name: Hirograr Toren II
Race: Dwarf
Age: 67
Class: Fighter/Dwarven Defender
Appearance: Short & stalky, russet hair and eyed and deep tanned skin, about 4'5" and heavy.
Personality: Jolly, but crude.
Equipment: "Crush", his dwarven warhammer, full plate mail, and travelling gear (Rope, rations, climbingh gear, etc.) Also carries a miniature set of smithies' tools.
Weapon of choice: Warhammer
Magic: "Bah! Who needs magic when ye' got an axe?!"
Special skills: Bashing, and expert at disarming and sundering objects.
Other: A skilled merchant and dwarven emmisary, blacksmith to the core.

Took me long enough... whew...

Anyway, who's ready for dwarves?! YEEAAAARRGH!!!

[Royalspork]

uuhhh a little late, but kami might be able to work you in.

[Xennith]

Yeah,she said a while ago (in thred 2) that I should just post my character anyway, and she would see if I could fit somewhere.

[Royalspork]

ok and now is a perfect time to drop in. just make up a backround and say that 'hey, Kid' called you a chosen one.

[Xennith]

Yeah... maybe. I'll look at the recent posts to see where I would best fit in.

But I prefer the idea of my character being completely ignorant of the fact that he's special. I like the idea of him being dense and stubborn.

[Royalspork]

But I prefer the idea of my character being completely ignorant of the fact that he's special.
My guy was made to be that way somewhat, but now he is just a sarcastic pesamist.

[h4x.m4g3]

Not everyone thinks they're special but the kid is telling everyone so if you were teleported to the castle you're special, however you can like some people takee it sarcasticly, and deny it.

[Dragonsbane]

werewolves can't really rip through metal..........unless this is an ogre/werewolf or something.........

side note, Vace is probably physically stronger than dirk. This doesn't mean he could beat him in a fight, just in a contest of strength.

[Foamy]

Kami can you please give these guys an ultimatum abut the werewolf thing before it starts turning into tons of threads about the same thing! you guys need to move this crappy repetitive conversation so some other thread!!!

[Dragonsbane]

we merely seek to elucidate the situation, thereby endorsing and confirming our own veracity in such matters, whereby the validity of our arguments shall become magnified.

Basically, we're just trying to make things clear in order to prove we're right, so that people will listen to us:p

Real reason: We want to prevent rules abuses later on, that's all. If someone thinks werewolves have regeneration (for example), and they don't, he might do something he otherwise wouldn't have done.........such as excercising less caution during a pitched battle where none of his opponents have silver weapons.

[Royalspork]

huummm, the more I think about, the more it becomes clear that IHMN's character doesn't have a real personality, but is just made to be as uberly as posible.
where are your character flaws IHMN, your character has no flaws.
(I'm not picking on you, IHMN, but this is geting really annoying.)
edit: I looked through all your posts is both discusion and IC threads so you don't have that excuse.

edit2: DB, this is somewhat to you to, but not as much.

edit3:IHMN, do not try to say that my guy has no personality.

[IHateMakingNames]

side note, Vace is probably physically stronger than dirk. This doesn't mean he could beat him in a fight, just in a contest of strength.

Vampire strength, Dirk is stronger. In a melee fight he would lose, but in a contest of strength he would win.

Real reason: We want to prevent rules abuses later on, that's all. If someone thinks werewolves have regeneration (for example), and they don't, he might do something he otherwise wouldn't have done.........such as excercising less caution during a pitched battle where none of his opponents have silver weapons.

All werewolves regenerate at an increased speed... And unless there are silver weapons, a werewolf doesn't really have much to fear.


huummm, the more I think about, the more it becomes clear that IHMN's character doesn't have a real personality, but is just made to be as uberly as posible.
where are your character flaws IHMN, your character has no flaws.
(I'm not picking on you, IHMN, but this is geting really annoying.)

Well, first off he has all of the vampire weaknesses. And his personality flaws are that he considers himself superior to everyone but older vampires, very secretive, is an asshole in general, and prefers to kill over question.

But I'm curious, what made you think that Dirk has no flaws? I fail to see what he has done that makes him seem perfect.

[Royalspork]

Well, first off he has all of the vampire weaknesses
vampire weaknesses are too general. My guy has the weakness of being human. big whoop
And his personality flaws are that he considers himself superior to everyone but older vampires, very secretive, is an asshole in general
you act as if he is better than every other character in ooc too, secretiveness is a general vampire thing. someone will always think that another person is an asshole.
But I'm curious, what made you think that Dirk has no flaws? I fail to see what he has done that makes him seem perfect.
the discusion threads did it the most.
I'll edit in some of your discussion posts here
#1And Dirk has two bows,
how do two bows even help? you can't shoot them both.
#2and is much better with them then your guy is
where is this stated??

edit: IHMN, that was a one line post in Albannar 3.

[IHateMakingNames]

vampire weaknesses are too general. My guy has the weakness of being human. big whoop

How are set weaknesses general?

you act as if he is better than every other character in ooc too, secretiveness is a general vampire thing. someone thinks any one is an asshole.

Oh, I do think he is better then everyone else OOC (As well as he does IC). Here is my list of usefulness (For fighting purposes).

Dante's guy/Dirk (Dante's guy has a crossbow and poison, even a scratch can kill you. Dirk can turn into a bat then fly far away and shoot you)
Vace/Cora
DB's guy
the rest

And he's more secretive then most vampires. Cora has told her name, Dirk won't even show his face. And a lot of people will see him as an asshole.


#1
how do two bows even help? you can't shoot them both.

One is a long bow. It's like a rifle. If the enemy is far, he uses that to get rid of them before they get closer. The other bow is a Zen bow, which is like a high powered short bow. It can't shot far, but it's good for quick shots at a closer range then the long bow.

#2
where is this stated??

I'll state it now if you want. But, it should be obvious. He is the archer of the group, all he has is his bows (And a dagger, just in case). The only other bow wielder is a pikemen who has a bow for some reason, so he is

edit: IHMN, that was a one line post in Albannar 3.

So? I do them rarely, and all he is doing is standing there watching you (Or walking along slowly, depends on if everyone is moving). I didn't feel like stretching it out. It becomes a real problem when a person does it for all of there post.




Edit - I just noticed. DB's character keep switching between refering to himself as a wizard and a black mage. They are two different things (Wizards tend to have magic that aren't physically offensive spells, like status spells and anything that doesn't fit into other magic categories, while Black Mages cast almost purely offensive physical magic, like lighting bolts, fireballs, big chunks of ice, dark ball of energy.)

[Royalspork]

How is set weaknesses general?
It is general to vampires.

Oh, I do think he is better then everyone else OOC. Here is my list of usefulness.

Dirk (Bat transformation, superior agility and a bow gives him a great edge)
Vace/Dante's guy/Cora (Undecided here, not exactly sure how good of a fighter Dante's guy is, or to what level Cora's magic is at)
DB's guy
the rest
How is playing a uberish character fun? doesn't it get boring?
every character has their own strengh and weakness but you and DB (somewhat).
And he's more secretive then most vampires. Cora has told her name, Dirk won't even show his face. And a lot of people will see him as an asshole.
most vampires? every vampire story is different. cora is too open for her own good.

I'll state it now if you want. But, it should be obvious. He is the archer of the group, all he has is his bows (And a dagger, just in case). The only other bow wielder is a pikemen who has a bow for some reason
isn't a vampire better suited for assassin?
I gave my guy a bow for vesatility.
Edit - I just noticed. DB's character keep switching between refering to himself as a wizard and a black mage. They are two different things (Wizards tend to have magic that aren't physically offensive spells, like status spells and anything that doesn't fit into other magic categories, while Black Mages cast almost purely offensive physical magic, like lighting bolts, fireballs, big chunks of ice, dark ball of energy.)
you're slow. It has been too obivious

edit: you acually are geting into the habit of one/two line posting

[IHateMakingNames]

I edited my post, you might want to make a few changes.

Though, a bow is an assassin's weapon (As well as a knife/dagger, which he has as well).

And Dirk's story is he is very secretive, more so the other vampires.

[Royalspork]

just a question, how does a bat hold two bows?

[IHateMakingNames]

just a question, how does a bat hold two bows?

The answer; I don't know. I gave a slight OOC explaination that when shape shifting a vampire makes a little pocket dimension thing (Like a bag of holding) to store anything on his/her person while they are transformed, and when they shift back they get the stuff back.

What ever the actual answer is, it's the same reason that a vampire isn't naked after every transformation.

[Royalspork]

it's the same reason that a vampire isn't naked after every transformation.
because no one expected an arguement about it

The answer; I don't know. I gave a slight OOC explaination that when shape shifting a vampire makes a little pocket dimension thing (Like a bag of holding) to store anything on his/her person while they are transformed, and when they shift back they get the stuff back.
though, I think it is because when you transform your clothes fuse to your skin. (like in harry potter) but that still doesn't explain a long bow.

[IHateMakingNames]

If it's the Harry Potter way, then before transforming Dirk would put the bow over his torso so it's up against him like an add thing of clothing, so it would fuse along with him.

[Royalspork]

yea but at least that is a good explanation, not like the bag of holding did it.

[h4x.m4g3]

I went ahead and made YET ANOTHER DISCUSSION THREAD since this one is full
http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?p=125281#post125281 (http://http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?p=125281#post125281)

[Dragonsbane]

Edit - I just noticed. DB's character keep switching between refering to himself as a wizard and a black mage. They are two different things (Wizards tend to have magic that aren't physically offensive spells, like status spells and anything that doesn't fit into other magic categories, while Black Mages cast almost purely offensive physical magic, like lighting bolts, fireballs, big chunks of ice, dark ball of energy.)

No, just no............

a black mage is much like a D&D wizard (sorta), that is why I'm using those terms. a Black Wizard is also an upgraded form of a Black Mage in FF1, and they have even more offensive magics than a Black Mage.......but Draloron isn't strong enough yet to be considered a Black Wizard.

Lightning Bolts & Fireballs are fairly common, but ice spells usually involve a blast of ice, not a chunk of ice.

"Dark Ball of Energy"? Where did you get THAT?

I suppose you might consider ALL Black Magic "offensive".......if you're a puritan (Black Magic= D&D Arcane spells, FF spells that Black Mages/Wizards cast, etc.)

[Royalspork]

see discusion five
it's a thread
you should go there
the weather is fair
and this thread is over 100 posts

[Dragonsbane]

Side note, since we're ALL the same power level; due to the advantages Dirk gains from being a vampire, Havelock must be a better assassin in order to compensate and keep things even.

That was just a comparison, Vace would be a better fighter than Dirk is an assassin, would be another example......but it doesn't make as much sense.

being of a more powerful race means you are less advanced in your chosen class, it's just more fair that way. Otherwise I could play as a half-dragon half-fiend werewolf and own you all:p