Albannar Discussion Thread:3

[Kamifuko]

Okay, okay this is getting out of hand. Try not to post personal arguments here, take those to PMs. Don't spam, and only post about Albannar please. I leave to go to bed+school, and I come back to this? :confused:
Edit:I have to go, we're experiencing an electrical storm.

[IHateMakingNames]

(In address to DB, bm_girl, and high a little)

Stop bitching at me for 'pointing out every little detail'. I don't point out a lot of wrong things you are doing. Out of two threads, I've pointed out highonpawn's abusing OOC knowledge IC (It's small now, but better to kill it off now before he has his character suddenly turn around when we are running away from enemies because the GM posted that there was a trap ahead when IC we would have no idea about it), and then something about DB's characters spells. Two things, big fucking deal.

I've left a lot of other things mostly alone (Or only hinted at). Like high's complete lack of grammar and spelling beyond a first grade level, or bm_girl's character knowing everyone and everything, or DB's guy just happening to buy a book on vampires, or the complete lack of sense in a person owning a house but not locking the doors (Anything he ever makes would get easily stolen, no way to pay for the house), or a vampire drinking werewolf blood (Not entirely sure, but that has got to screw up the living vampire's systems, mixing a vampire disease and the lycanthropy disease), or some other things I noticed.

I point out things that can be a problem, and rather not point it out later when one of you idiots to do one of these on a higher level and then hear some shitty excuses of "It already happened, just drop it".

And I don't worry about my role-playing because I can. I doubt yours. highonpawns' post seem to have little thought in them, some times abuse OOC knowledge, and lack grammar. bm_girl abuses OOC knowledge all of the time (I just decided to call high on it at the time). DB has a god modding tendency. (Note that none of these are from just this RP, but your post from other RPs as well).

Also note that I saw the first sentence in the first post (In case one of you actually noticed that and thought it would be clever to point it out), but I decided that I don't really care, and this has some RP related issues in it.

[Kamifuko]

Before anyone starts yelling, technically, IHMN is right...it does have to do with the rp...

[Foamy]

who cares about the whole vamp and werewolf thing? it's only a rp game. it would seem weird if i ordered human blood so i order the closest thing, half wolf half human. i cant get whores cause they are all women and it would be strange if a had a woman in my room alone with me for no reason.

but i will stop yelling at you now IHMN because i wont revert to being a child. I will also try to keep OOC stuff out of IC issues. promise ;)

[Forever Zero]

Then just drink her blood in the alley. It's a dark alley, and anyone looking in most likely wouldn't be able to tell it was two women. Plus isn't it night (I'm not sure if it was established...)? The streets are less crowded, so there is even less of a chance that someone will look down the alley and spot you, and less of a chance of anyone identifiying you if they did look...

[IHateMakingNames]

1) There are man whores.

2) What FZ said, and you can just be buying the whore for a friend.

3) Be a lesbian (Or pretend).


but i will stop yelling at you now IHMN because i wont revert to being a child. I will also try to keep OOC stuff out of IC issues. promise ;)

So basically, you've got nothing?

[Foamy]

IHMN what do you mean by 'you got nothing'? and fine i'll try the fake lesbian stuff. i will not be one though.

[IHateMakingNames]

First off, I said "you've", not "you". And secondly, I forgot to add the "to say" at the end of that sentence.

Edit - I say this because "i wont revert to being a child" isn't an excuse to not say something since unless what you were going to say is purely "You are a stupid doody head who smells and you are wrong", then it most likely is not childish. Arguing is not childish if it has a purpose and actual points are made.

[Foamy]

ah ok. what i meant by my statement before was that you have a point there and I will try to fix up my rping. i tried to make it sound like i was still right, but I was raising the white flag really. can't you let me go down with dignity?

[Royalspork]

complete lack of sense in a person owning a house but not locking the doors no it is called having nothing to steal; if you read back a bit I said that I have a little amount of things in my house.

But for the rest of your statment, you have your opinion and I have mine. there is no right or wrong in that, but I tend to disagree with most of it.

[IHateMakingNames]

ah ok. what i meant by my statement before was that you have a point there and I will try to fix up my rping. i tried to make it sound like i was still right, but I was raising the white flag really. can't you let me go down with dignity?

It's more dignifing to admit defeat or acknowledge the other person instead of hiding it.



no it is called having nothing to steal; if you read back a bit I said that I have a little amount of things in my house.

Money? Houses are not free, and I would assume there are either no banks, or the banks are probably corrupt or just plain bad in medieval times. And carrying all of your money on your person is a very bad idea. One pick pocket can ruin you.




Also, when are Dirk, Vace, and Dante's character going to see the little kid? They are all alone at the moment.

[Foamy]

there now the kid can tell us where to start off the quest and then the kid can dissapear and find you.

[Royalspork]

humm never thought of that but I just asumed that there just is a person who I could trust with money. but I just thought of something; the fact that the door is open is like I am expecting the theif, making them think that I am parpared for them. also the beat up walls would help in the fear of the owner. Just a thought though

another thought would be that I have my money hidden outside the home.

[Foamy]

just drop it already and play. it has no relevence to the story really. we just need the characters to meet up already and start questing. i wanna beat up some goblins already!!.

[Kamifuko]

Soon, I'll tell you guys where to go, then off to IHMN's character! :D

[IHateMakingNames]

When a vampire shape shifts, how does it happen (Puff of smoke or a visible change)?

[Kamifuko]

Umm...I didn't think of that. :( Which do you guys think it should be?

[Foamy]

i think it's a cut-scene of another action by someone else and then cut back to the vamp in animal form. or run into shadows and emerge changed.

[Forever Zero]

I would vote a total shift. It makes more sense then, "*POOF* Now I'm an animal!"

[h4x.m4g3]

Visible change, whenever you don't want people to know it was you who changed then run into the shadows. And it can be a very quick visible change but a puff of smoke would make it less covert since the smoke would be a give-a-way of a shape shifting vampire.

[Kamifuko]

Okay, so it'd be a visable change I guess. There, that answers your question IHMN. :)

[Foamy]

ok next question. what exactly can we change into?

[Forever Zero]

I still think shapechangeing is a dumb idea, but I believe you can change into a wolf and a bat, and that's it...

[Royalspork]

I knew about the no ooc in ic but I consedered my post as merely sarcastic.

the reason I bring this up because I'm not going to go to the casle til someone points it out

[Kamifuko]

Uh...........I'm not exactly sure if vampires can change into anything other then bats....if they can, just let me know. Sorry, I'm not very knowledgable when it comes to vampires.

[h4x.m4g3]

HoP bump into DB on our way out of town and then you'll be pointed toward the castle cause that's where were going

[IHateMakingNames]

I thought it was made that vampires can turn into any mammal, but if they made a pantar in the middle of a desert, that wouldn't make very much sense.

[Forever Zero]

Historically, they can turn into a Bat form and a Wolf form and nothing else.

[Foamy]

well let's just make it wolves and bats. unless IHMN has a problem?

[IHateMakingNames]

I want a big cat of some sort for jungles... That, and big cats>wolves.

[Kamifuko]

Okay, wolves and bats. :) That's okay, right?

[Foamy]

:evilgrin: hehehehehehehehehe... im gonna have fun with this! aroooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[Forever Zero]

1. What jungles? This land is like medival Europe, aka no jungles for a thousand miles.

2. You are correct in big cats>wolves.

3. There is no precedent for Vampires turning into Big Cats.

[Royalspork]

HoP bump into DB on our way out of town and then you'll be pointed toward the castle cause that's where were going
hey you do that, but that doesn't seem so......original. I'll still be walking so do it in your post not mine, I go with what you say.

[Kamifuko]

BMG, if the PCs don't know that you're a vampire yet, how could you use that ability to it's full potential at the moment? Just a thought. :D

[IHateMakingNames]

1. What jungles? This land is like medival Europe, aka no jungles for a thousand miles.

Just incase


3. There is no precedent for Vampires turning into Big Cats.

And what precedents say vampires are alive? These aren't your basic vampires.

[h4x.m4g3]

Well I don't know you, so I would have no reason for noticing you. What I was saying is your searching dor DB, DB is with me so you find DB among our group. Remember the Little kid told you to find the mage you bumped into earlier not the other way around.

[Foamy]

wolves make more sense. they are personified as dark evil beings many times and when people see wolves running around at night in town it's ok cause the wolves may just be hunting but a big cat stands out. have you ever heard of a medieval story about a big cat?

in answer to Kami: you'll see...

[Kamifuko]

I really need to get a name for the kid, don't I? :)

[IHateMakingNames]

Panters are often seen as dark, evil creatures.

And I said just incase this RP does not exist purely in a medieval European world. If it does, then it might not matter, but I've always seen several locations in all RPs (Deserts are very common).

[h4x.m4g3]

It would help.But I recommend us not knowing the name till we reach the castle.

[Foamy]

how about just Elder Kid? and i'll mess with the other PC's heads with the shape shifting. it'll be fun.

[Royalspork]

Well I don't know you, so I would have no reason for noticing you. What I was saying is your searching dor DB, DB is with me so you find DB among our group. Remember the Little kid told you to find the mage you bumped into earlier not the other way around.
well db would notice me and he isn't here right now, so I guess I will be walking for a while.

[Forever Zero]

To IHMN: Shadowrun. In Shadowrun, a Vampire is just a meta-human that has caught Human Meta-Human Vampiric Virus (HMHVV). They are technically alive, but if they eat/drink anything other then blood, they are violently ill. They also are known to develop magical powers on their transformation.

[Kamifuko]

how about just Elder Kid? and i'll mess with the other PC's heads. it'll be fun.
Lol, I meant a real name. Elder Kid doesn't seem like a normal name, now does it? :) Maybe I'll use a name that's in another language that no one uses...of course, I'm sure that someone here would know it. :p If you guys want to suggest a name, PM me with the name. If it's in another language, please put what it means as well.

[h4x.m4g3]

Yeah hut what I'm saying is DB is not searching for you. So he might wave or something but he has little reason to actively talk to you.

[Foamy]

DB really needs to log on. his character is just standing there. and mine is waiting for directions to the castle.

[Royalspork]

Lol, I meant a real name. Elder Kid doesn't seem like a normal name, now does it? :) Maybe I'll use a name that's in another language that no one uses...of course, I'm sure that someone here would know it. :p If you guys want to suggest a name, PM me with the name. If it's in another language, please put what it means as well.
Thousands of PMs later....

[h4x.m4g3]

Yeah he said his internet was done before (I know what's that like) so I hope he hurries up, and I said I could lead.

[Dragonsbane]

look, IHMN, do you want the big cat form because its tougher than a wolf? If yo get any cat form at all it will be something small and light, meant to quickly cross areas only such a creature could cross.

Perhaps different strains of vampirism produce different animal forms?

side note: BMG, female vamps usually feed off commoners or seduced male victims, not whores. Just so you don't have to do anything embarassing;)

I'm currently leading Zech and BMG to castle, by the way.

[IHateMakingNames]

No, I want an animal form per location so it makes sense. If we ever go to a desert, jungle, some cold place, I would like more options then a bat or a wolf. And the moving from one place to another is what the bat form is though.

Vampires get blood however they can. A whore is just a very easy way. You are already alone, they are already vunerable, all you have to do is cover there mouth and bite.

[Forever Zero]

Well if you are in one of those places, don't use your animal form, or use your animal form even if it isn't perfect. Not everything is perfect in life, so you make do with imperfect tools if you must...

[IHateMakingNames]

If I wanted perfect, I would want a bird. A bat makes very little sense for anywhere. I just think a vampire having an animal form per enviroment makes some sense. Using vampire stories doesn't really work since these are no vampire story vampires, and usually those stories only take place in one place.

I don't mind a wolf and bat, but if I can get a few more then all the better.

[Dragonsbane]

BMG could pretend to be a whore? That would get her plenty of victims..........but the method I suggested seems more her style. Mezmerizing gaze is useful, isn't it?

and a form per location is nearly as broken as Draloron being able to cast Time Stop at his current level:p

[IHateMakingNames]

She can mezmerize one person per day. Unless she completely drained all of her mezmerized victim, then she would need to find another way to get blood.


How is having a couple more animal forms broken? It's not like they are an advantage in a fight, just if for what ever reason a vampire is in a place wolves or bats don't live, he has another form of hiding.

Edit -

ooc: hey i said i didn't go down. read better!!!!

You choose if he fell, so he choose that you did. He did just what you did, so don't complain.

[Dragonsbane]

because dragons are the ideal form in way too many environments, that's why.

does the Mezmerizing Gaze ability only works once per day? I thought it was four times......about how long does it last? Hours? Days? A few minutes?

[Foamy]

yea but i had said stuff after that.

[IHateMakingNames]

Mammals. I have stated before that vampires should only get mammal forms. And hiding as a dragon is a horrible idea.

And I thought it was one day for newer vampires, and four times a day for the older vampires (Using that system, Dirk can do it twice a day).

I figured it only lasted about half an hour at most. Just it has left over affects that keep them hypnotized a little longer.


Edit - bm_girl, it doesn't matter. Choosing if your actions affect another PC is a very bad thing to do. It's a form of god modding. So he did it back.

[Forever Zero]

It starts at 1 use, and goes up to 4 uses maximum. I guess it would last as long as the Vampire keeps eye contact, and ends a few minutes after eye contact is broken...

[IHateMakingNames]

I figured it was more of a minute or two of eye contact, then they are mezmerized for a while even without eye contact.

[Dragonsbane]

BMG, I was just turning your joke back on you.........you should have learned to expect that from me by now:p

you could still have said that stuff while falling down, so no harm done:D

[Kamifuko]

I decided on the kid's name. HoP and FZ both suggested names. Sorry HoP, your name was good, but FZ's was more appropriate. Though long...and hard to pronounce...I'll have to give him a nickname. :D

[Dragonsbane]

What's his name? I was gonna suggest calling him Little Billy! (I'm kidding, I swear!)

You could just call him The Prophet......

[Kamifuko]

How about 'Oslondaethsaetin Othnarest'?
Instead of typing it the first time, I think I'll just copy+paste...any suggestions on a nickname? :)

[Foamy]

Oslon? how's that?

[Forever Zero]

Woohoo! A winner is me!

[Kamifuko]

If you guys want, I could put up a picture of a character from Tales of Symphonia that looks like the kid.

[Forever Zero]

We could just call him, "Hey Kid"... That might not be so good however.

And a picture would be alright.

[Dragonsbane]

how about Elwin? That's a nice, short name for a nice, short apocalyptically important kid.

[Foamy]

I think Oslon is good. we could have the PC's try to pronounce his name and just say the first five letters instead. ofcourse i would say his full name because im an elf. :p

[Kamifuko]

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/4868/con_genis.jpg
This is from the Tales of Symphonia Official Site (http://tales.namco.com/) His name is Genis, he's a half-elf. It's the concept art.

[h4x.m4g3]

Or just Os (Oz)...I can see my char now "SO your name is Oslandaethshen...oslandath, Os. "

[Foamy]

'Oslondaethsaetin Othnarest' Oslon makes the most sense! Os makes this sounds like the troupe is about to sing 'we're off to see the wizard'

[h4x.m4g3]

Yeah ... I guess still my character is going to constantly be screwing up his name in an attempt to say the whole thing. Oslon is fine I guess.

[Royalspork]

hi guys I back. uhh you don't make your own nickname, the people that you come in contact with chose for you, so in other words each of us will call him as we pleaze.


And I am a little hesitent in bumping in to db and the others

[h4x.m4g3]

We're almost to the castle you might want to hurry

edit: we fill up discussion post way too fast this is #76

[Kamifuko]

Run HoP, run! :) And, I guess that everyone has their own nicknames. You guys can call him whatever you want.
PS:Calling him 'Hey, kid' might not be too smart...;)
Edit:Yeah...if this fills up and I'm busy/gone, could someone please start a new one?

[Royalspork]

hey in ic I don't know about a castle. but did it pop out of nowhere ('hey kid' did it) or was it already there?

[h4x.m4g3]

no the castle was already there some nobles and stuff live there.

[Royalspork]

ok, um I guess I will be the last one there :D

[Forever Zero]

PS:Calling him 'Hey, kid' might not be too smart...;)

It may not be smart, but think of the comedic value!

So when is 'Hey Kid' getting around to chatting with Vace? Note: I'm about to go offline, so it can wait...

[Kamifuko]

Right now if you want....

[Foamy]

hey ppls i g2g now i'll be back later. bye :D

[Royalspork]

Is dante still playing??

[Forever Zero]

Right now if you want....

Alright, I'm back. Ready when you are...

[Dragonsbane]

That little kid is exactly what I pictured him looking like, only with shorter hair and a more serious expression....

[Kamifuko]

Probably because I wanted him to look like Genis....

[Royalspork]

we got 2 threads and we aren't even all together.

wo0t 1 from 900 so 899 posts

[Dragonsbane]

did we decide whether or not there were be lycanthropes in this RP or not?

[Foamy]

lycanthropes are about as cool as vamps, maybe cooler.

[Royalspork]

yea but that would take another two threads to argue what it can do

[Forever Zero]

I would be okay with having werewolves in this RP. Would we be able to control it, or would we be raving beasts if we got changed into one?

[Dragonsbane]

Since we already have characters, lets just have them as monsters/enemies, or occasionally NPCs controlled by the GM.

it's difficult for them to control themselves in wolf/hybrid form, especially when they seek to contain their hunger, but some do manage it.

No, vamps can't be infected with lycanthropy. END OF DISCUSSION!!!!

*shudders at the thought of ultra-powerful-godmode-incarnate werewolf/vampire hybrids.....*

Draloron would be a terrible lycanthrope........picture it

Draloron: *starts casting Lightning Bolt when suddenly..........* ARRRROOOOOOOOOOO *turns into a werewolf and charges into melee, forgetting his spell in the process*

fighters make better lycans, in general.

[Forever Zero]

You know what happens to a Werewolf/Vampire Hybrid when it gets hit by lightning?

I'm not even finishing that... It's too stupid, but you get the idea...

And I agree on the no hybrids idea. But would you be able to control your werewolf and it's forms (ala WoD) or would you just turn into a monster (ala Van Helsing)?

[Foamy]

so wait can i still turn into a wolf or not? didn't we decide that vamps can turn into bats or wolves?

[IHateMakingNames]

A vampire turing into a wolf and a werewolf are two completely different things...

And yes, a vampire can turn into a wolf or a bat.

[Foamy]

YAY! awrooooooooooooooooo

[Dragonsbane]

Concerning werewolves, I might add that D&D has an interesting solution (yes, IHMN, I know you don't like D&D, I'm only suggesting one part of that system). It requires a Will save, basically an exertion of willpower, a mental struggle to try and control the change. Perhaps we could implement something similar? However, since most of the lycanthropes the PCs encounter will be evil ones (monsters/enemies), they will usually give in to the change completely (becoming monsters).

[Kamifuko]

I have to go, could someone please make a new discussion thread?