How I Killed Your Master Page #001 to whenever we close this thread

[Meister]

I bet it was with a punch like that.

Seriously, that's some punch.

[Sliths]

So is this like a comedy or what?

[Sliths]

Oh wait I get it now!

Haha, that's hilarious!

[Meister]

I'd have to say at the moment it's like a dude punching clean through a massive wooden door, I don't know what else you can demand from a first page.

e: edits instead of double posts please

[Babybahamut]

I vote that there is a punch like that on every page at least once.

[Kurosen]

Not a comedy. Things that are funny will happen now and then, but that's just how life is.

[Megaman FTW]

Brian, Im starting to think you should get some more people on board with this whole "writing and developing stories" business you're in.

Even when 8 bit ends you've still got Atomic Robo, Warbot, EW;MH, and now HIKYM going all at once.

And there hasn't been a new warbot since like the dawn of time.

[Sliths]

Not a comedy. Things that are funny will happen now and then, but that's just how life is.


Well it's fine if it's not a comedy. Just don't jump the shark too soon! LOST lost credibility to me as soon as they all went back in time to blow everything up.

[Kurosen]

And there hasn't been a new warbot since like the dawn of time.
Zack has the script, he alleges to be working on it currently.

[Dracorion]

Zack has the script, he alleges to be working on it currently.

That lying bitch can't be trusted. I say draw it yourself.

I'm liking HIKYM so far. It has punches and shit gets broke.

[InsaneGenius]

The page consists solely of some guys standing around and a door getting trashed, supposedly in slow motion.

That's probably the best first page for a web comic ever.

[Mirai Gen]

The name implies kung-fu hilarious mishaps mostly cause it makes me think of How I Met Your Mother. Regardless, interesting so far.

[BardTheFifthLightWarrior]

Epic beginnings for an epic series.

[FenrisWolf]

Who's the artist? He's quite talented.

[Melfice]

The art, indeed, is superb.
I desire to see more of this new comic.

[Kurosen]

Mr. Matt Speroni does the art. He's a nice lad.

[Invisible Queen]

The page consists solely of some guys standing around and a door getting trashed, supposedly in slow motion.

That's probably the best first page for a web comic ever.
Nuh-uh! Nothing tops Mother Of All Bombs. Of course it has ended and disappeared off the Internet without ever getting further than one page, so it's not much to speak of, but as far as first pages go it's legendary.

Even when 8 bit ends you've still got Atomic Robo, Warbot, EW;MH, and now HIKYM going all at once. I think he's trying to top the Other Brian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Michael_Bendis) in writing the most comics at the same time. :O

Re. the new comic, I think it's too soon to say anything. You know, most webcomics do well building up at least 20 or 30 pages before announcing their existence. You figure just because you have a track record of years and years of hard work and consistent quality and regular updates, mister, you're not playing by the same rules as other webcomic startups?

PS. Is the title inspired by How I Met Your Mother? Cause that's pretty funny.

[Melfice]

Re. the new comic, I think it's too soon to say anything. You know, most webcomics do well building up at least 20 or 30 pages before announcing their existence. . . you figure just because you have a track record of years and years of hard work and consistent quality and regular updates, mister, you're not playing by the same rules as other webcomic startups?

If you're gonna do something, you gotta do it properly.
That means storming in like a pompous ass, and breaking all the rules.

[Gamer8585]

Well if it was going to be a comedy there would be one last panel with someone saying to Mr. Doorpuncher: "Goddamnit, it was unlocked!"

[Zack Finfrock]

:stressed:

I must find this Matt Speroni, and break his hands! There can be only one...

... artist on Nuklearpower!

In all seriousness, this comic should be great.

[krogothwolf]

It looks like it could be a pretty good webcomic

Remember Zack, if the guys on Holy Ground you're not allowed to fight him!

[Mr.Bookworm]

Mr. Matt Speroni does the art. He's a nice lad.

Not after you get through with him.

[voodooKobra]

Mr. Matt Speroni does the art. He's a nice lad.

Not for long, of course. Your influence will corrupt him, like all others before him.

And that's why you're awesome.

[Rejected Again]

I give the new guy a week. TOPS.

Edit: There needs to be a NPF spin-off, How I killed your Meister. Directed by Fifthfeind.

[tshadowdrag]

Zack has the script, he alleges to be working on it currently.

I'd believe that as soon as he's done looking for monsters in the toilet. Meanwhile, HIKYM does seem promising in the style and detail department and will lure in some people to see it.

Personally I'd have to see if there's any likeable characters in this thing, as 8 bit will be ending soon and Warbot is probably not going to see too many updates (I wagered it would last 5 comics but it has 9 for now, good thing I didn't bet on it).

It's a great start.

[Death by Stabbing]

Hey it looks pretty good so far...The first page is action packed and suspenseful!

[Kepor]

I give the new guy a week. TOPS.


Generally, by the point where the artist is making pictures for Brian, the corruption is pretty advanced. My theory is that it begins immediately upon contact (e-mail, instant message, etc) with Brian and builds up over time, but I haven't been able to test this.

[Grognor]

Make sure you read this (http://www.nuklearpower.com/hikym-faq/).

Anyway, I look forward to reading all of this webcomic. I just wish this would have been about robots. I can't seem to find any webcomics about robots.

[Kurosen]

I gotta add some fancy stuff to the HIKYM area of the site. I'm thinking a gallery of Matt's concept art and pencil versions of pages as well as commission info. Quick bios for me, John, and Matt. Stuff like that.

[Meister]

A new page will be added every Monday and Friday.
If you schedule Warbot updates for Wednesdays you can have something new up every workday. At least until 8BT ends.

[Kurosen]

Yup! Zack's the weak link there though, as he's got other stuff to do.

[voodooKobra]

All we need now is a Sunday comic and I'll be obsessively checking NP every day. Until 8BT ends.

[Jenwrath]

I'm thinking you should wait until you have a couple pages done at once. Got a feeling its going to feel horribly disjointed if you try a more serious comic, with inconsistent updates. If it's anything comic-ie like AR, at least. Imagine having only one page of that at a time, every few days to weeks, randomly.


Art looks great though. I hope it's at least half as good as your other work, then it'll still be fun to read ;p

[Kurosen]

We have a one-month buffer.

[Bob the Mercenary]

I don't know why, but that page screamed Falcon PAWNCH!

Very nicely drawn first comic. Though I definitely recommend a catchphrase he says every time he throws a knuckle like that.

Eagerly awaiting more.

[Magus]

Am I the only one who can't stand to read comics like this one at a time? I always have to wait for Dr. McNinja to get through a story arc before I can read it all at once, for example. Heck, I could never stand reading like, Prince Valiant, for this reason, and who the heck cares about what happens in Prince Valiant?

Regardless, the artwork is pretty amazing. I mean, like some of the best I've seen for black and white. Like that last panel--holy crap! Quite excellent.

Also, I'm seeing some sort of revenge cycle going on here. The title could be about the villain killing the protagonists master, it could be about the current protagonist telling a future protagonist how he killed his master (the villain), thus the future protagonist wants to kill the current protagonist--it could be so many wonderful things of revenge-ocity I am just delirious with expectation.

[Si Civa]

I'm not sure about this comic.
Art is amazing and fits really well to the theme, you can't argue about that.
But I'm not sure if I will like the story. It's hard to say opinion yet for some odd reason (what it could be, hm?), but well, we'll see. It really depends what kind of Kung Fu, the diary, the movie, the comic book story it will be.

And there really was punch in the first page, as Brian promised. Spooky, isn't it?

[The Gunslinger]

This is pretty well drawn so I'll have to check it out now and then. Is Neil Patrick Harris involved? If so, I'll have check this out regularly.

[NonCon]

Eh- Wait- What? Uhm... Uh... Why would NPH be involved, and where would you get that impression? Did I miss something? Was there a whole page about Neil Patrick Harris being awesome or something?

[Magus]

Current speculation is that the title "How I Killed Your Master" is uncannily similar to "How I Met Your Mother", a CBS sitcom featuring Neil Patrick Harris as a character in it (I don't watch that show). A very wacky character from what I can perceive from commercials, however.

I don't think this is going to have Neil Patrick Harris in it, though. Despite the fervent wishes of everyone apparently?

[NonCon]

Well, that and Brian said it would be mostly serious, with funny moments.

[Kurosen]

I've never seen the show either. The title for HIKYM came out of a conversation with co-creator/co-writer John Wood wherein we talked about framing the story as a story being told by one of the characters blah blah blah kung fu masters get killed a lot, ta-da.

I have no doubt that NPH's show title subconsciously influenced us though.

[The Gunslinger]

Still sounds like this will be a great comic, even without NPH.

[FenrisWolf]

Boy, would I hate to be Master Liu Wong right about now.

[RickZarber]

Boy, would I hate to be Master Liu Wong right about NOW!Fixed that for you.

[Magic_Marker]

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/5269/facepalm8bu0ph9.jpg

[Grognor]

I think NOW I get what people meant by not being able to read comics like these one at a time.

Heck, I'm the person who watched all of Yu-Gi-Oh: The Abridged Series in one sitting. In fact, I think I'll do that again NOW!

[InsaneGenius]

It seems like I'll wait a few months before I read this again, unless of course it speeds up a bit. (Wait for it...) NOW!

[DIDGIN]

I'll bet he'll kick the bounty hunters' ass. Then the guy who put a price on his head will have to do it himself and we'll think "if he that good, why didn't he started by sending crappy bounty hunters to do his job?"

The answer would be, of course: "To tape them get slaughtered mercilessly and then post in on youtube".

[MSperoni]

Not for long, of course. Your influence will corrupt him, like all others before him.

And that's why you're awesome.


The thing is: I already came to this party corrupted. :p

All Brian does is add fuel to the fire.

[KeienSlayer]

Still sounds like this will be a great comic, even without NPH.

I think if it was going to have NPH, it would have been How I Murdered Your Master, because then it'd have the same acronym as How I Met Your Mother.

[Nuklear Waste]

I think if it was going to have NPH, it would have been How I Murdered Your Master, because then it'd have the same acronym as How I Met Your Mother.
But not the same amount of syllables!

[Observer]

Now it's just going to make people think it's called "How I killed your mother".

Which frankly, is just wrong. Also ninjas are awesome and clearly, this story calls for some.

[MSperoni]

I like ninja, maybe we can get some in there. Or at the least, a Chinese equivalent/precursor. No promises, I'm not the writer, but since there's not yet a precise historical context for this story (so far it's just set in "ancient China") there are more options as to what can be included.

[Kurosen]

I think we'll focus more on traditional martial arts schools and rivalries, but I cannot rule out the potential for clandestine crap.

So, what he said.

[MSperoni]

I'm for crap. When it's not too gratuitous and not too blatantly fan service. Which is to say.. not crap.

[Si Civa]

Just out of curiosity, how much has been already written and drawn of the comic?
I just thought that would be interesting to know. :|

[Kurosen]

I believe we're up to 13 written and 12 drawn. John should have a ton of material ready later this week.

[Mac]

I just want to say that the art for the story is absolutely gorgeous and I am really digging the black and white.

[PyrosNine]

I'm expecting humor as in everything is over-the-top, yet taken incredibly seriously. Like, everyone and their grandmother can destroy brick walls with a punch, every main character of a different school of fighting looks like a famous real world martial artist who has become synonymous with his school, people who use bladed weapons die very quickly, and even more so for people who wear body armor who are incredibly tough opponents at the outset, but after some revelation or turning point are cut down damn near instantaneously, ninjas wearing bright colors, people jumping down 3 stories to the ground without even rolling or bending their knees, castles that have far too many deathtraps for any one family or clan to live there, and a few martial artists punching out wolves, bears, snakes, and possibly a shark.

I also expect super dynamic scenes like some bruiser is chasing a Lean Kung Fu hero through a city, who stays out of reach by leaping over walls and slipping through open windows, while the bruiser just plows through everything that gets in his way: Buildings, walls, children, as if they were nothing, and the entire action sequence is more focused on the bruiser than the actual hero.

[Kurosen]

I can confirm some of that and deny some of that.

[MSperoni]

I just want to say that the art for the story is absolutely gorgeous and I am really digging the black and white.


Thanks :) Page 3 has been one of the hardest pages so far. When HIKYM started, I hadn't digitally grey-scaled any comic work in months, and we weren't going to have it be that way at first. We decided to do so, and even though it takes me longer to do the pages, I think it's worth it.

[Bob the Mercenary]

Another punch is coming, I can feel it.

Or better yet, a series of punches!

I have to agree with everyone else in saying the artwork is just face-meltingly gorgeous. I know that a lot of other artists base their character's images off of themselves (i.e. Milo Ventimiglia in Rest) or people they know. Did you use anyone as a template for this?

[MSperoni]

Well, to avoid having the minor-characters (such as the weapon wielding warriors on page 1-3) all look the same, I used various sources: people from movies, portraits from the Romance of the Three Kingdoms games, etc.

But for the main characters, I started with a concept from my head, and after various stages o' tweaking with Brian, they ended up looking how they eventually turned out. Some characters I got lucky on, and they needed almost no adjusting. Some needed a lot, the main character for instance.

[Grognor]

I demand pirates. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaolinquan#Pirates)
You know it would work.

[Corel]

How much of the series do you have panned out?

And to mimic everyone in here, the art is gorgeous.

Are you also going to write this comic with Chinese culture in mind also? Guānxi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guanxi) is quite important in Chinese society and it would be nice to see people learn about what it actually is, and how it operates.

[MSperoni]

I demand pirates. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaolinquan#Pirates)
You know it would work.

I second and third that.

Gan Ning and Zhou Tai are pirates ya know... Just sayin' ;)

[FenrisWolf]

Whelp.

That was fast.

[NonCon]

For some reason the old dude reminds me of General Iroh from Avatar. That is in no way a bad thing.

[Oborot]

"I will have my tea after I have your life!"

Awesome line.

[MSperoni]

For some reason the old dude reminds me of General Iroh from Avatar. That is in no way a bad thing.

Not seen avatar so I'll take your word for it :p

A friend of mine sent me a bit of the soundtrack to the series and I like it, especially Heart Chakra (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rWwGat6DgM)


I'm working on putting together a "Behind the Scenes" thread for this HIKYM business and hope to have something up here by the end of the day.

[R|Я]

Liu Wong: one scary mothafucker. Seriously, I don't know where his face ends and his beard begins. :)

[NonCon]

Not seen avatar so I'll take your word for it :p

Basically super-nice old guy who seems to focus on the least important things (i.e. shopping for souvenirs, drinking tea, etc.), but he's actually pretty deep and very wise.

[BardTheFifthLightWarrior]

Basically super-nice old guy who seems to focus on the least important things (i.e. shopping for souvenirs, drinking tea, etc.), but he's actually pretty deep and very wise.

He also has a few badass scenes of his own.

Anyways i think this comic looks good so far, the pages are short but the drawing of it is very detailed.

[Art of Hilt]

"I will have my tea after I have your life!"

Dude knows his priorities.

[MSperoni]

I usually have my tea first, but that's why I'm not a martial arts expert.

[Mirai Gen]

What about all the door-punching?

I love how Liu Wong is completely at peace and utterly unafraid. Usually the people that can be that complacent when someone's brought an army to kill you is either incredibly clever, devastatingly powerful, or both.

Given the premise of the story and the setup so far, I'm guessing the latter.

[Mareth]

Chan listens to him, then kills him. Best of both worlds!

Also it's funny that you haven't seen Avatar because, in terms of personality, Liu Wong seems exactly the same as Iroh. I mean, exactly the same.

[Krylo]

Guys guys, you're missing the obvious hook here.

Liu Wong killed Chan's master.

The story is called, "How I killed your master."

Chan will listen.

We will have flash backs.

The story will be told with no inherent respect to the order of the time lines, as Liu Wong relates the tale of... How he killed Chan's master.

That said--Art is amazing, story is engaging so far. Enjoying having updates almost every day on the site.

All good things.

Also: "I will have my tea after I have your life." Totally agreeing with Oborot that this is one of the best lines ever.

[Mirai Gen]

Guys guys, you're missing the obvious hook here.
Um...

We are?

[Krylo]

Well with the comments, yeah, some of you seem to be.

[Kurosen]

Also it's funny that you haven't seen Avatar because, in terms of personality, Liu Wong seems exactly the same as Iroh. I mean, exactly the same.
Aloof but bad ass old guy is pretty much a staple of kung fu stories, so it's not that unusual.

[Fifthfiend]

Basically super-nice old guy who seems to focus on the least important things (i.e. shopping for souvenirs, drinking tea, etc.), but he's actually pretty deep and very wise.

Least important?

Or... most important?

[Mirai Gen]

Well with the comments, yeah, some of you seem to be.

Maybe not me, then; I caught that detail and I knew where the plot was going. The only reason I talked about "considering the premise" is because if this guy is the apprentice and Liu Wong killed his master, he's some hot stuff indeed.

So, okay, fair enough.

[Meister]

Aloof but bad ass old guy is pretty much a staple of kung fu stories, so it's not that unusual.
Always remember Rule One.

[Revolving Ocelot]

Always remember Rule One.

Do not act incautiously when confronting little bald wrinkly smiling men.

[MSperoni]

especially when they're drinking tea.

[Invisible Queen]

I think if it was going to have NPH, it would have been How I Murdered Your Master, because then it'd have the same acronym as How I Met Your Mother.
But not the same amount of syllables! How I Mauled Your Master?
Mowed?
Mashed?
Macked? That could be misinterpreted.
Marked?
Made?
Miffed?
Muted?
Murked?
Meated?

So many possibilities. . .

[FenrisWolf]

Why the hell do we care about meeting your mother this is so much better than a shitty sitcom.

This is a shitty sitcom with punching, and that makes all the difference!

[Bob the Mercenary]

I like how his arm has muscles that don't even exist.

[Dracorion]

I like how his arm has muscles that don't even exist.

This is a kung fu fantasy setting. It's mandatory.

[MSperoni]

Now everyone knows where I got my Chan Sen avatar :)

[Fifthfiend]

I really gotta learn to ignore this comic for like a month or two at a time so that I can read a decent chunk at once and not be going all ARG WHY ISN'T THERE MORE

[MSperoni]

What's really gonna be tricky is when we get to a multi-page fight. I don't know or think I could convince Brian to upload multiple pages at a time, however.

I have a comic of my own I'm working on, hoping to make a website out of it (unfortunately I am website-inept). My comic's in the format of HIKYM, and I've been debating how I would want to go about posting it.

Maybe release an entire chapter at once, I dunno.

[Fifthfiend]

unfortunately I am website-inept.

You are posting on a website run by Brian Clevinger, that by itself should prove that ineptness is no barrier to success.

[Fifthfiend]

You are posting on a website run by Brian Clevinger that by ithimself should prove that ineptness is no barrier to success.

.

[MSperoni]

lol

Well that's encouraging then :D

[Mirai Gen]

Hey Matt's avatar.

I do like the splash page though it works a bit oddly to see an internet comic have a title with credits four pages in.

[MSperoni]

Wasn't my call about the title and the credits :p

But I think that maybe Brian was trying to have this comic be as much like a print-comic as he could. It seems like the title/credits appear after a certain amount of pages have gone by in print comics for whatever reason.

My opinion on the matter is.... I have no opinion ;) But I have been coming to this site and been a fan of Brian's work for about 8 years so I'm definitely not getting in the way of anything to do with writing or presentation unless it's absolutely necessary (like if it seems like he's going insane)

[Fifthfiend]

Okay, as soon as I get some super high-tech info (my own damn FTP password), I’ll be able to upload the latest HIKYM page. I choose to blame a foriegn intelligence agency for this breakdown in NP.com’s data infrastructure ’cause that way I’m the victim of highly trained espionage agents rather than my own stupidity.

You are posting on a website run by Brian Clevinger that by ithimself should prove that ineptness is no barrier to success.

HA ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

[Tev]

I'm calling it right now. How the old man killed Chan Sen's master was to invite him over for tea and then poison the crap out of him with his crazy mushroom warrior teapot while he told a long and drawn out story to let the poison take hold.

[Kurosen]

Dammit, now we've got to completely re-do the whole series...

[MSperoni]

Maybe it can be a unique poison where Chan has to punch someone once every 10 seconds or die.

I am looking forward to the next page's debut. I like the direction that the story goes and art-wise I had gotten more in a rhythm.

It's quite a long ways from Friday, though :(

[Grognor]

My favorite part of this series is already that Chan has the same hairstyle as me.

[rpgdemon]

What's really gonna be tricky is when we get to a multi-page fight. I don't know or think I could convince Brian to upload multiple pages at a time, however.

I have a comic of my own I'm working on, hoping to make a website out of it (unfortunately I am website-inept). My comic's in the format of HIKYM, and I've been debating how I would want to go about posting it.

Maybe release an entire chapter at once, I dunno.


I can give you a hand with web design, et cetera, if you want.

[MSperoni]

Thanks :D

I was going to attempt to learn as much as I could on my own (I was thinking of trying to learn Wordpress to form a basic, relatively simple site at the start), but if I need some pointers I'll keep you in mind :)

[Fifthfiend]

I'm calling it right now. How the old man killed Chan Sen's master was to invite him over for tea and then poison the crap out of him with his crazy mushroom warrior teapot while he told a long and drawn out story to let the poison take hold.

HIKYM aside this is a pretty rad idea, someone should totally put this in an actual story. It would be the Usual Suspects except with bitchin' kung-fu.

[Mirai Gen]

I am a big fan of anything similar to the Usual Suspects.

[Ashbourne]

So, I had to register to ask an important question.

Who is the slayer of the demons of the north, Chan Sen or his master? I found it somewhat unclear as to which of them the lofty title refers to. Inquiring minds desperately need to know this.

[MSperoni]

I assumed it was Chan Sen.

But, I see we're you're coming from.

[rpgdemon]

Yep, if you need any help with it, shoot me a PM or something. I'm not doing anything too important at the moment, though I'll be getting my teeth all cut up and taken out in a few days, so it might -not- be prudent to ask me when I'm all doped up on pain meds. :P

Aside from that, I'd be glad to give you a hand with whatever you need help with. I don't plan on actually taking the pain meds for too long, mainly because I have a ton of trouble swallowing pills, so I'll be back up again in a few days.

If you wanted to give me a basic idea of the site's purpose, et cetera, I could whip up something in a few hours. I mean, the only other things I'll be spending today doing are doodling, playing WoW, and working on some designs for various stuff which I won't be paid for in the immediate future. :P


Edit: I might also be programming, but probably not, as I don't feel like delving back into my 3D engine's inner workings at the moment. I'd be more likely to just redo it entirely, but in a way that makes it run efficiently for more than three objects.

[MSperoni]

Thanks again for the assistance :D


I have about 8 more pages to go in this comic before I'll be ready to make a decision regarding its future as either a webcomic or a possible print comic (leaning much more toward the former than the latter).


I should hopefully have it done in a week or so.. It depends on how soon I get the next HIKYM pages and how hard they wind up being. HIKYM has a slight edge in priority to my comic, but there are times when there are exceptions.

Anywho, thanks again. I'll PM you if I need any help :)

[rpgdemon]

Yep, feel free. I shouldn't have too much on my plate.

[Kurosen]

Nope, it was Chan's master who did the alleged slaying.

[MSperoni]

Ohhh.. Well, now I know.

[Ashbourne]

The fog is cleared, the mystery solved. I suspected Chan looked too young and hotheaded to have singlehandedly slain demons, especially those in the north. Thanks for the revelation!

Also, yours is truly awe-inspiring artwork sir Speroni. I'm a big fan. Brian you're okay I guess.

[MSperoni]

Thank you :D

[Kurosen]

I can take "okay".

[Moogleking]

Don't worry Brain, I still love you.

Until the next Warbot that is. Then you're a sick little fuck again.

[MSperoni]

We appreciate the effort, hard work, and professionalism too.

[Kurosen]

You must be talking to someone else, Matt.

[MSperoni]

Sorry, I wasn't in the mood to jump on the "let's mercilessly pick on Brian" train at the time :p

[Mac]

Sorry, I wasn't in the mood to jump on the "let's mercilessly pick on Brian" train at the time :p

You should always be in the mood to mercilessly pick on Brian. It's like a forum prerequisite.

[MSperoni]

I'll try to do better next time ^_^

[Mashirosen]

I think it's about as fresh and interesting as LOL HAY GUISE DID U KNOW YOUR COMIC SOUNDS LIKE THE NAME OF A SHOW I WATCH LOL NPH SHOULD PLAY CHAN IN THE MOVIE!!!

[MSperoni]

BRAIN KLEVIJUR SHOULD BE PLAYED BY NEAL PATRICK DOOGIE HOWSER IN HOW I KRAPPED YOUR MATTSPURONY TEH MOVIE!!!!!1@#$!! KOS THEY ARE TEH KRAPPIEST XDXDXDXD!!!!!!!!ROFL LOL OMFG!!!

...there.. I "joined in"..

[Kurosen]

Well done, Matt. Now back to you regular quiet awe.

[Fifthfiend]

BRAIN KLEVIJUR SHOULD BE PLAYED BY NEAL PATRICK DOOGIE HOWSER IN HOW I KRAPPED YOUR MATTSPURONY TEH MOVIE!!!!!1@#$!! KOS THEY ARE TEH KRAPPIEST XDXDXDXD!!!!!!!!ROFL LOL OMFG!!!

...there.. I "joined in"..

Holy shit.

Also, hello new signature.

[MSperoni]

Well done, Matt. Now back to you regular quiet awe.

If I had some Bad Byron's Butt Rub (http://www.mohotta.com/images/uploads/1545_1064_large.jpg) I'd go back to that, but quiet awe is all I have at the moment.

[Krylo]

Holy shit.

Also, hello new signature.

It'd be better without the '...there.. I "joined in"..' Mostly because it gives away that he's not really that stupid.

If I had some Bad Byron's Butt Rub (http://www.mohotta.com/images/uploads/1545_1064_large.jpg) I'd go back to that, but quiet awe is all I have at the moment.

Man, that stuff is actually really good. Seriously. It's delicious.

[MSperoni]

..he's not really that stupid.

Sez who?

[Fifthfiend]

You know I was all set to be pissed at Brian for bringing someone around who seemed like an actually basically decent human being but then I was like nah either he's secretly an asshole or we'll just turn him into one.

[Rejected Again]

You know I was all set to be pissed at Brian for bringing someone around who seemed like an actually basically decent human being but then I was like nah either he's secretly an asshole or we'll just turn him into one.

Between you and Krylo it will be a quick process Fifth. Then again if you both fail your conversions, just make him a Admin, that should do the trick.

[01d55]

You know I really am more mean spirited here than in basically any other context.

[Moogleking]

Oh yeah, that too.

[MSperoni]

Between you and Krylo it will be a quick process Fifth. Then again if you both fail your conversions, just make him a Admin, that should do the trick.

Being made an admin might be one way, but HIKYM becoming more of a staple on this site, getting some commission work, maybe doing stuff for Robo and having my own comic up on another site should inflate my ego just enough to possibly assholify me.

[Voyager]

For some reason, I'm almost expecting the first line in 006 to be "... I poisoned his tea."

[Kurosen]

That would be a fantastic and quick way to end the series.

[BardTheFifthLightWarrior]

I'm calling it right now. How the old man killed Chan Sen's master was to invite him over for tea and then poison the crap out of him with his crazy mushroom warrior teapot while he told a long and drawn out story to let the poison take hold.

It would also confirm this, launching the first and last "called it' post.

[MSperoni]

I gots the next 7 pages finished and none of that happens. Sooo...

'calling it' DENIED.


unless....... I'm LYING..

dun dun duuuuuuuun

[Kurosen]

One of the pre-reqs for working with me is to be a big fat liar pants, so...

[NonCon]

Liu Wong had a shitty childhood.

[voodooKobra]

I love the clouds in the newest one. <3

[Mirai Gen]

You just Googled clouds and greyscaled it didn't you! Tricky bitch.

Looks great though.

[MSperoni]

Thanks, glad you think it looks good :D

The clouds were a combo of a photo greyscaled and filtered/adjusted in the art program, extra stuff I added, and a necessary evil.

I can do clouds pretty realistically on my own, and had a background done, but for some stupid reason I kept getting "internal memory errors" every time I tried to save it which I didn't really understand because the file wasn't that big. Anywho, I had to do the simpler photo-thing so it'd save. I like to use photo images as b.gs sometimes, just not often. I have a digital camera so I sometimes go out and snap pics to use.

[Grognor]

My god, that is one of the single greatest mustaches I have ever seen

Oh and jeez Brian, can't you write anything without something horrible happening to everyone?

[Tev]

What's funny is that before I even read any of the dialog, I recognized who the kid was by his eyebrows.

[MSperoni]

Good! :D

[Fifthfiend]

Looks like Fei is the master of being a total asshole.

[Kepor]

We all know that assholeism is necessary for an unloved orphan to become the most powerful being in the universe.

[Shadow Bunny]

Why are bald dudes always more evil than the general population?

[MSperoni]

They're just frustrated ol' souls.

[Voyager]

It would also confirm this, launching the first and last "called it' post.

Durn 500 page threads always beating me to the punch!

[BardTheFifthLightWarrior]

Why are bald dudes always more evil than the general population?

Becaue their so angry and spiteful towards all of those jack asses showing off their hair everywhere they go.
In fact, I think Lex Luthor's motivation was the loss off his hair. (seriously)

[Kurosen]

That is correct.

[EVILNess]

That is correct.

Lex Luther or your bad guy?

[MSperoni]

Ol' Picard's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ucVfn9gob8) not evil and he's bald.

[Eldezar]

But his clone was.

[MSperoni]

But most clones are evil. Was the clone of Picard evil because it was bald or because it was a clone?

[InsaneGenius]

Maybe both.
Clone: Chance of evil 50%
Bald: Chance of evil 25%

It is impossible to tell whether he's clone-evil, bald-evil or even both, though.

[Shadow Bunny]

Did Picard's clone have a beard? Bearded clones are always evil, unless the original is evil, in which case the beard-clone is good.

[Bob the Mercenary]

Reminds me of Raz Al Ghul.

Maybe both.
Clone: Chance of evil 50%
Bald: Chance of evil 25%


*strokes beard* Myes, the math does check out.

[rpgdemon]

Did Picard's clone have a beard? Bearded clones are always evil, unless the original is evil, in which case the beard-clone is good.

Didn't he have a goatee, starting the whole "Evil twin has goatee" thing?

[Meister]

Close, I'm pretty sure it was spawned in an episode of the original Star Trek where the evil mirror universe counterparts of Kirk, Spock and everyone had goatees. Maybe not Uhura.

[MSperoni]

They did something like that on South Park too. The clones all had beards I believe. I didn't know that they got it (most likely) from Star Trek.

and Fei has a goatee/beard! Maybe he's the evil clone.

[NonCon]

This is the only comic I know of where the artist engages in wild speculation as well.

[MSperoni]

I don't have much knowledge of what's going to happen, so I can only speculate. And I like joining in.

[Dracorion]

Is Brian going to start making wild guesses as well? Because that would probably be the final straw.

Everything you ever knew about stories? Comics? Books? Art? Whatever? It would all come crashing down.

As for my wild guess, I have a feeling that our protagonist is actually a bad guy. No, really.

[Shadow Bunny]

Close, I'm pretty sure it was spawned in an episode of the original Star Trek where the evil mirror universe counterparts of Kirk, Spock and everyone had goatees. Maybe not Uhura.

Yeah. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirror,_Mirror_%28Star_Trek%29)

[rpgdemon]

Close, I'm pretty sure it was spawned in an episode of the original Star Trek where the evil mirror universe counterparts of Kirk, Spock and everyone had goatees. Maybe not Uhura.

Whoops! No telling anyone I mixed up Kirk and Picard!

[voodooKobra]

Is Brian going to start making wild guesses as well? Because that would probably be the final straw.

Everything you ever knew about stories? Comics? Books? Art? Whatever? It would all come crashing down.

As for my wild guess, I have a feeling that our protagonist is actually a bad guy. No, really.

Andrew Hussie of MS Paint Adventures ironically suggests commands in the suggestion box. Well, he has once, at least. I don't know the frequency of his shenanigans.

As for the latest page (7), great work on expressing the emotions, and to the writers, great way transitioning from "He can't stay" to "He can stay" while maintaining a consistent and resolved character.

[Kurosen]

I often make guesses in 8BT threads. Not about predictions, but about whatever's going on in the page being discussed at the time.

[voodooKobra]

I often make guesses in 8BT threads. Not about predictions, but about whatever's going on in the page being discussed at the time.

That doesn't really count for the irony, though it does for the situation.

[MSperoni]

As for the latest page (7), great work on expressing the emotions..

Thanks. Page 7 is one of my more favorite pages so far. I hope to have some neat Behind the Punch (http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?t=35681) stuff posted about it soon.

[John Wood]

Brian can speculate all he wants, only I hold the secretes to HIKYM, muahahahaa
John Wood

[Tev]

Brian can speculate all he wants, only I hold the secretes to HIKYM, muahahahaa
John WoodSo tell me, is the tea-kettle the culprit? I must know!

[John Wood]

So tell me, is the tea-kettle the culprit? I must know!

Depends on if Brian can re-write the kettle to be super depressing
John Wood

[Meister]

And next thing we knew there was a strip starring the kettle being tormented on a daily basis by his inability to communicate his feelings and desires while working somewhere as a scribe.

[Ghaiel]

The title could be Bart--i mean Kettleby the Kettler. It'd be an instant classic! 'Ol Herman would be proud.

[Kepor]

Depends on if Brian can re-write the kettle to be super depressing

Brian could probably re-write Spongebob to be super depressing.

Might be kinda interesting.

[Meister]

Basically, that scene from the movie where Spongebob and Patrick are drying out on a collector's desk stretched to two hours.

[Kepor]

I don't think I saw that one, but it sounds very depressing. Was it?

[John Wood]

Brian could probably re-write Spongebob to be super depressing.

Might be kinda interesting.


Brian can re-write anything to be super depressing. Don't invite him to birthday parties, weddings, or funerals...funerals due to over-depression.
John

[rpgdemon]

Brian could probably re-write Spongebob to be super depressing.

Might be kinda interesting.

Easy. Everything doesn't get resolved at the end of the episodes.

-Gary doesn't come home.
-Spongebob -did- eat the pie bomb.


Or, make things go horribly wrong:
Squidward is shocked when the marching band shapes up, falls onto his knees in joy, gets blasted by the fire vent beneath him as part of the pyrotechnics.


Heck, actually, most of the episodes revolving around Squidward can be depressing, because they have to return everything to the status quo.

[Shadow Bunny]

I'd love to see what he'd do with the Futurama episode with Fry's dog.

[Meister]

I don't think I saw that one, but it sounds very depressing. Was it?
Well, it's, uh, from the movie, and there's Patrick and Spongebob, and they're on a collector's desk and drying out. Not sure what I could add to the description.

Actually it's just the requisite tug-the-viewers'-heartstrings scene, they get better pretty much immediately. Not at all a bad movie as I recall!

[BardTheFifthLightWarrior]

Ol' Picard's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ucVfn9gob8) not evil and he's bald.

He was secretly evil.

Easy. Everything doesn't get resolved at the end of the episodes.

-Gary doesn't come home.
-Spongebob -did- eat the pie bomb.


Or, make things go horribly wrong:
Squidward is shocked when the marching band shapes up, falls onto his knees in joy, gets blasted by the fire vent beneath him as part of the pyrotechnics.

Heck, actually, most of the episodes revolving around Squidward can be depressing, because they have to return everything to the status quo.

These sound more hilarious than depressing.

[Funka Genocide]

I can't help but notice a lot of little inconsistencies in the artwork, it seems either rushed or sloppy due to the technical limitations of the artist.

Also publishing one page at a time makes it really hard to get into the plot from the beginning.

Edit: actually, after looking over the posted pages again, the artwork isn't as bad as I remember it for some reason. Just a few weird arms/sleeves that were bugging me.

[Shadow Bunny]

I can't help but notice a lot of little inconsistencies in the artwork, it seems either rushed or sloppy due to the technical limitations of the artist.

"Sloppy"? You can't possibly be serious.

[Funka Genocide]

yeah I think sloppy fits. as I said, it's not as bad as I had originally thought but it doesn't feel entirely polished. The artist has talent no doubt, but the little mistakes start to pile up if you keep staring at it. As the series goes on I'm sure we'll see an improvement though.

[MSperoni]

Bleh, I hear that. But making errors is just a part of it I guess..I WISH I was perfect, that'd be awesome.

ah well, comments noted and filed!

[Funka Genocide]

heh, man I wish I had half your talent, haha. As they say, everyone's a critic. I'm looking forward to seeing where this series goes though.

[rpgdemon]

These sound more hilarious than depressing.

That's because you are a horrible person.

[Bob the Mercenary]

Mr. Speroni, may I just make the observation that you have a vastly more awesome Italian last name than me. It sounds like a food whereas mine sounds more like something you do to coffee.

[MSperoni]

I have a relative named Guido Vansaghi. My grandma's side is Sicilian, but I'm just half Italian. I don't really even look Italian, actually.

[rpgdemon]

Mr. Speroni, may I just make the observation that you have a vastly more awesome Italian last name than me. It sounds like a food whereas mine sounds more like something you do to coffee.

I can only assume you're speaking of your surname "Mercenary". I'm not exactly up to date on the latest in coffeemaking techniques, but I have never "Mercenaried" my coffee.

[Meister]

It sounds like a food
I thought "hmm, spumoni" pretty much the first time I laid eyes on it.
whereas mine sounds more like something you do to coffee.
Venti?

Macchiato?

I'm not exactly up to date on the latest in coffeemaking techniques, but I have never "Mercenaried" my coffee.
You pay a person a lot of money to take a coffee and completely fuck its shit up. Every Starbucks you've ever been to, man!

[GrandMasterPlanetEater]

Comic 7. Po? Wash? Their names? Insults? He's telling one of them to get clean?

[Kurosen]

He is telling Po to get a wash bucket.

[MSperoni]

Comic 7. Po? Wash? Their names? Insults? He's telling one of them to get clean?

It'll make perfect sense on the next page.

[John Wood]

Yeah, I've had a lot of people asking me about that too. Po is the fat guy. Like Matt said, it'll make more sense in the next page

[MSperoni]

I think the observation is pretty funny though. To pretend that Fei is so angry that he has like a mental-rage-discharge. He insults Wong's servant, he acts obstinate and highly aggressive, and to top it off "Po you stink! For the love of God go take a bath!" Covers all his bases!

[Meister]

Bad time to mention "Po" can be German for "butt", or the best time?

[MSperoni]

hmmm.. well if Po was a German guy then I would say that would be really good to know :)

I dunno what "Po" means in Chinese. Hopefully not "butt" though

[Sam878]

I dunno what "Po" means in Chinese. Hopefully not "butt" though

I thought it meant "Kung Fu Panda". ;)

[Tryxx]

I just want to say that I love this comic, and would be willing to pay for a printed version of it - in any style, if that ever becomes available.

(I'm also going to buy Atomic Robo on Friday, just so I can make a point.)

EDIT: Aside from the art and everything else that makes this comic great, I just noticed something small that I prefer over 8-Bit and Warbot; I enjoy the thinner boarder around the speach bubbles.

[John Wood]

Comments like that make me feel fuzzy inside....that or it's the insulation.

[Shadow Bunny]

Or both.

[John Wood]

I just wanna say after tweaking and retweaking the script with Brian before throwing it out and having a bunch of jibbering monkeys rewrite it, I'm excited to see what every one thinks of the story by the end of the 1st "issue". Even if you hate it, Matt's art is looking so good it'll defintely mask mine and Brian's shoddy writing (though we'll still take credit).

[MSperoni]

Even if you hate it, Matt's art is looking so good it'll defintely mask mine and Brian's shoddy writing (though we'll still take credit).

Happy to be of service :)

[Fantabulate]

I wonder if the delivery sevant will come back into play...?

[Revolving Ocelot]

For Po, I can't help but conjure up an image of the teletubby.

Regardless of that, I am loving the artwork for this, and the story looks very promising. (though that tea is still going to be a slow poison!)

[Double]

Fei is kind of a jerk.

[Tev]

I just wanna say after tweaking and retweaking the script with Brian before throwing it out and having a bunch of jibbering monkeys rewrite it, I'm excited to see what every one thinks of the story by the end of the 1st "issue".I just hope the teapot that I've deamed to be "full of poison" sees more screen time.

[MSperoni]

There is an instance involving tea on the page I'm working on now and it causes some trouble but nothing of the poisonous variety.

[rpgdemon]

There is an instance involving tea on the page I'm working on now and it causes some trouble but nothing of the poisonous variety.

YET.

[Shadow Bunny]

Are Fei's eyebrows always like that, or just when he's angry? Or is it just that he's always angry?

[MSperoni]

I've never drawn him in a state of unpissed, so I don't know :)

[Kurosen]

Fei isn't always angry. He's just already tired of your shit from the moment he meets you.

[John Wood]

Just like when Brian met me the first time!

[Kurosen]

ARGH SO TIRED OF YOUR SHIT ALREADY

[John Wood]

So does this mean you'll now train me turning me into an unstoppable killing machine that drinks tea?

[Tev]

So does this mean you'll now train me turning me into an unstoppable killing machine that drinks tea?Sometime after you learn to scrub the insult of your very being off his steps.

[John Wood]

The insult of MY being is the stain that'll never come out

[Kepor]

Fei isn't always angry. He's just already tired of your shit from the moment he meets you.

Just like when Brian met me the first time!

Or when he has to post on the forum!

Ever!

[John Wood]

Or when he has to post on the forum!

Ever!

or leave his house....or look in the mirror :D

[rpgdemon]

or leave his house....or look in the mirror :D

And he channels it all into Warbot.

[InsaneGenius]

Which is exactly why he gets away with it.

[MSperoni]

Fei at his most pissed (so far)! Behold my new avatar!

--as of 8-29-2009 that is.

[Corel]

I blame Fei's wife for him being a Grumpy Pants in his younger days.

[MSperoni]

well that's not an entirely accurate prediction but I guess looking at it in a certain point-of-view it's not an entirely inaccurate one either (based on what I know so far about Fei).

[Tryxx]

Fei at his most pissed (so far)! Behold my new avatar!

--as of 8-29-2009 that is.

Damnit! Seeing this picture out of context will not allow me to get the image of a constipated Fei out of my mind.

...so, Fei's wife dies and he becomes an angry man?

[Dracorion]

RE Matt's avatar:

Shit, I think his head might explode.

[MSperoni]

He's DBZ-Fei!

As to your guess about Fei's anger: I'm not sure exactly. I guess conclusions COULD be drawn along that line(based on some dialog on the next page), but I'm not privy to all the characters' (or any of the characters') backstories... so it's just guesswork on my part.

[Tryxx]

I don't really want to speculate. I doubt very much this story could dissapointment me. I am rather curious how Fei is going to get out of this sort of antagonist role - I think he'd make a pretty good anti-hero sort of deal. The writers have a whole lot of creative possibilities with this story, considering the age gap between Lui Wong's personas. They can do so much with the characters that influence his life it's ridiculous.

And I'm looking forward to every bit of it.

Also, Matt, though you mentioned this in the "Behind the Punch" thread, I think your process of drawing the comic sorts this perfectly. I'm not an artist at all, but the reasons you have for starting with the cartoony feel and fleshing out their emotions is awesome. I think with art like yours, you're going to play as much a part in character development as the writers.

[MSperoni]

I've suggested, to Brian anyway, that since all this story takes place in the memory of an old man, there could be many "odd things" happen.. or inconsistencies, due to his shakey recollection..

i mean, he's really old, and has been hit a lot in his life, I doubt his mental facilities are that great. I think it'd be funny if there were contradictions, and maybe Chan pointed it out. Or like Wong told of an event that Chan knew happened differently.

Like Wong says "I was in Qiao in 1544 and that's when General Tso invaded with an army!"

and then Chan is like "He didn't invade in 1544, it was 1550.."

then Wong says "Oh? erm.. what was I doing in 1544? oh yeah!"

I also think it'd be funny if there was a time where an appearance of a character changed from panel to panel and then Chan is like "Hold it.." and Old Wong is like "I cant' remember if he was wearing a long sleeve shirt or a short sleeve!" then Chan is like "Just pick one, I don't care!"

That being said.. it could be that Fei really WASN'T this angry. It's just how Wong remembered it/tells it.

[Tryxx]

The character memory thing is wonderfully exploitive. I approve of those ideas. XD

[Dracorion]

He's DBZ-Fei!

He's trying to grow some hair!

[Kurosen]

In case you see a version of Page 009 with no dialog, hit refresh or check it out here (http://www.nuklearpower.com/comics/hikym/090831.jpg).

[MSperoni]

This page is Fei at his most asshole so far..

[John Wood]

Yelling at his kids? Not when he wanted the very memory of being woken up physically scrubbed from his steps?

[MSperoni]

Can you clarify that post for me, sir? I can't follow ya.

[Tev]

I don't really want to speculate. I doubt very much this story could dissapointment me. I am rather curious how Fei is going to get out of this sort of antagonist role - I think he'd make a pretty good anti-hero sort of deal. The writers have a whole lot of creative possibilities with this story, considering the age gap between Lui Wong's personas. They can do so much with the characters that influence his life it's ridiculous.

I really don’t think he ever has to get out of this role. He’s pretty clearly an angry dick and as such, Chen has grown up to be a beefy angry dick too under his master’s tutelage. What’s happening now seems to be the standard “Dick student meets wise old teacher who changes his perceptions on life through story…maybe with some sprinkling of how kindness, friendship, and mercy are paths to a greater strength or something.” That’s what I picked up from Wong’s little “Listen Chen, you can kill me and be just like your master, or you can listen to my tale and surpass him,” speech anyway.

Edit: Oh, and as far as theories go, I'm still holding faith in my little teapot being awesome.

[John Wood]

This page is Fei at his most asshole so far..

I was saying you think the current page makes Fei more of an asshole then when he made Po attempt to scub away a memory?

[Kurosen]

Master Fei is not necessarily Chan Sen's master. DUN DUN DUNNNNNNNNNNNN

[MSperoni]

I was saying you think the current page makes Fei more of an asshole then when he made Po attempt to scub away a memory?


Well I was just thinking that him accusing his kids of murdering their mother was a pretty horrible thing to say.


Also I think what Tev was saying was not that Fei was Chan's master, but that there was a slight parallel between Chan's attitude and Fei's, and that old Wong is going to try to help show him how that's not the best way to live your life. But that's just my interpretation.

[Corel]

Whoever came up with the line "You are not my Sons. My sons slew their Mother at birth. You are dogs who could not run down a sick Rabbit." Should be commended for excellent writing.

[Tev]

Master Fei is not necessarily Chan Sen's master. DUN DUN DUNNNNNNNNNNNNYou there! Stop ruining my reasonable theories!

Also I think what Tev was saying was not that Fei was Chan's master, but that there was a slight parallel between Chan's attitude and Fei's, and that old Wong is going to try to help show him how that's not the best way to live your life. But that's just my interpretation.Actually I was saying both. I figured that in the near future we'd see Chan slowly work his way into Fei's apprenticeship, most likely by pissing him off and being forced to be a punching bag by the other students until he proves through some instance of determination that impresses Fei. After that he'd become the star pupil and then come beating down Wong's door for vengeance when tales of his master's demise reach him. Then the talking happens and the shallow violent life he has lead will be washed away in the wake of enlightenment......then uh....I don't know, he goes super sayain 4?

[John Wood]

Whoever came up with the line "You are not my Sons. My sons slew their Mother at birth. You are dogs who could not run down a sick Rabbit." Should be commended for excellent writing.

I'd love to take credit for that line, but that one was all Brian <hangs head low>

[MSperoni]

I had a feeling that was a Brian line ^_^

don't worry tho, JW, you'll have your moments of glory.