The Trolling of Haruhi Suzumiya [Archive]

NonCon

07-17-2009, 02:55 AM

Yeah... Next episode better be the last though. Kyon noticed less stuff this time around, but seem to come much closer to figuring it out at the end.

Frustrating part was that they skipped the kimono part and seemed to make other things go by slightly quicker, so I let myself get my hopes up.

RickZarber

07-17-2009, 03:35 AM

...Yeah, gonna need alcohol before I watch this. Glad I have you guys to warn me.

EDIT: Watched it sober, and god help me, I think I liked it. Honestly, I think this was the best one so far.

Regulus Tera

07-18-2009, 03:16 AM

why the fuck did I watch it

this is getting to the "one minute long still shot while Beethoven's 9th plays in the background" level of pretentiousness of Evangelion

NonCon

07-19-2009, 01:02 AM

phil_

07-19-2009, 01:09 AM

Hey, Rick, you bought the Haruhi DVDs, right? How many episodes are on each disc? Have we gotten to two discs of Endless Eight yet?

Oh, and _mike totally didn't get the Unit 00 reference. He thought it was a Gundam thing. What an idiot, right? Ha ha ha... ha... :(

NonCon

07-19-2009, 01:14 AM

Hey, Rick, you bought the Haruhi DVDs, right? How many episodes are on each disc? Have we gotten to two discs of Endless Eight yet?

I have the DVD's, and if you count the upcoming Endless Eight, we are at two discs.

Well, kinda. First two DVD's have four episodes each, and the last two have three episodes each.

phil_

07-19-2009, 01:26 AM

I can't help but find that funny.

Although, _mike also postulated that this might be a "keep circulating the tapes" thing. That would be sort of fitting: a challenge for the second season to keep the show as it was when broadcast that's more challenging than the first season's mixed-up air schedule.

NonCon

07-19-2009, 01:34 AM

Ideally, they'll break the arc up across the DVD's.

Regulus Tera

07-19-2009, 12:03 PM

I'm less pissed that I have to watch all of these goddamn Endless Eights and more pissed that every Endless Eight uses up more of the season and takes from me potential episodes I'd actually want to watch instead.

Hey, at least KyoAni can start hyping Season Three as the adaptation of The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya arc. Like they did with this season! Only for realz now.

RickZarber

07-19-2009, 12:54 PM

Which, if they're following any sort of pattern, we will get when exactly? 2012? :|

NonCon

07-19-2009, 01:55 PM

Hey, at least KyoAni can start hyping Season Three as the adaptation of The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya arc. Like they did with this season! Only for realz now.

Weren't you paying attention, they can't promote the season they're doing. They're gonna promote it as a re-airing of Endless Eight.

Malek

07-19-2009, 05:47 PM

Weren't you paying attention, they can't promote the season they're doing. They're gonna promote it as the conclusion of Endless Eight.
At this rate, this is more likely. ;)

NonCon

07-19-2009, 05:50 PM

No, because that'd be something we'd at least look forward to.

EVILNess

07-19-2009, 06:02 PM

Can someone explain, slowly, what is going on with this season? I was thinking of watching the series, but you guys don't seem happy.

NonCon

07-19-2009, 06:08 PM

Episode 1 of this season was Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody. Great episode.

Episode 2 was Endless Eight. Great episode.

Episode 3 was Endless Eight, only with a different animation director and they figure out time's looping about halfway through. Great episode.

Episode 4 was Endless Eight, only with a different animation director and they figure out time's looping about halfway through. Okay episode except the fact that nothing new happens ruins it.

Episode 5 was Endless Eight, only with a different animation director and they figure out time's looping about halfway through. Okay episode except the fact that nothing new happens ruins it.

Episode 6 was Endless Eight, only with a different animation director and they figure out time's looping about halfway through. Okay episode except the fact that nothing new happens ruins it.

Bells

07-19-2009, 08:43 PM

i kinda enjoy it, but enough is enough... seriously, anyday now i keep waiting for someone to show me an "Abridge series" version of this. It would make it all worth it.

But this is the best i have to offer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_LZOfuC7qs)

NonCon

07-19-2009, 08:44 PM

Back when there were four episodes of Endless Eight, someone on NicoNico have a video that played all four at the same time.

phil_

07-19-2009, 09:43 PM

Back when there were four episodes of Endless Eight, someone on NicoNico have a video that played all four at the same time.I'm not surprised, though we thought that they'd wait until Endless Eight was over to do the simultaneous video. Is it splitscreen, or are all the episodes playing on top of each other with transparency? The second is what we've been imagining.

NonCon

07-19-2009, 09:44 PM

Splitscreen. Was kind of interesting to watch but also frustrating.

synkr0nized

07-19-2009, 09:54 PM

These posts were not the same or close to it with a minor variation. frowny-face

NonCon

07-20-2009, 12:27 PM

Yutaka Yamamoto, the director of the last season who pretty much has nothing to do with this one is sorry about Endless Eight.

“I knew from a year ago.”

“When I was with Kyoto Animation, this idea was already floating around, I was against to it. I thought 2 episodes was the limit.”

“I feel responsible for this. I’ll say it, I’m prepared to. As a representative of the SOS-Dan production committee, I want to apologise here – this was inexcusable.”

Well at least somebody is sorry for it, even if it isn't really his fault.

InsaneGenius

07-20-2009, 02:00 PM

But this is the best i have to offer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_LZOfuC7qs)
This is great. If the episodes are anywhere close to being as entertaining as this they are a blast.

Regulus Tera

07-20-2009, 02:38 PM

They aren't.

NonCon

07-22-2009, 02:27 AM

So the people currently doing Haruhi responded to what Yutaka Yamamoto said.

“This person has absolutely nothing to do with our company.”

Yeah, he only directed the amazing first season, and not ENDLESSEIGHTENDLESSEIGHTENDLESSEIGHT. I don't think they're even aware of how much hate they've earned with this arc.

Regulus Tera

07-23-2009, 12:38 PM

And Endless Eight has ended not!

InsaneGenius

07-23-2009, 01:48 PM

WTF USE SPOILER TAGS!!!

Seriously, if that's really true I'm glad. Now let's hope some good stories come up. Not to say Endless Eight is bad but I'd really love to see the Disappearance arc instead of seven (Six right?) episodes of a one-chapter story that wastes almost half of the season. This is filler in the truest sense of the word.

NonCon

07-23-2009, 01:50 PM

Hey. Highlight RT's text. Then Cry

InsaneGenius

07-23-2009, 01:55 PM

The absence of a punctuation mark at the end should have really made it obvious. But I fell for it.

But I don't feel like crying because I haven't watched any of the episodes yet.
Maybe I can enjoy them, all of them. Who knows?

NonCon

07-23-2009, 02:01 PM

No. No you can not. I know that you can not. It is an impossibility.

InsaneGenius

07-23-2009, 02:03 PM

In reference to your sig...

Do the impossible
see the invisible
row! row!
fight the powah!

Don't tell me it's THAT impossible. Please!

NonCon

07-23-2009, 10:10 PM

One good thing has come of this. I don't need to wait for subs to watch the episodes.

Also, if you watch them all in a row, or possibly even just all of them, you will kill something, possibly yourself.

I guess Endless Eight is going to be eight episodes long hur hur hur. Fuck I hate that that's true. That's over half a fucking season wasted on ONE FUCKING EPISODE.

Regulus Tera

07-25-2009, 12:29 AM

NonCon

07-25-2009, 12:35 AM

What I really hated about this episode in particular is that it didn't even try to do anything interesting animation-wise. Last episode at least had that really creepy turning-around with the clock, and the one previous to it dramatised the frustration a lot with all the plane imagery. There was no motif to look for this time around. :/

I didn't even watch it. I skipped straight to the end just in case people were being lying bastards, saw that it had the same ending, and went "Man, I have perfected watching Endless Eight."

P.S. Fuck all those idiots at animesuki defending this travesty, by the way.

This is why I don't hang at forums dedicated to anime. As much as there would be people with actual good taste there, there would also be tons of people telling me how the Endless Eight arc is so awesome and how Death Note and Code Geass are the BEST ANIMUS EVAR.

Fifthfiend

07-25-2009, 12:53 AM

Don't say I never did anything for ya, Reggie.

Bells

07-25-2009, 01:12 AM

Y'know i thought it was neat... and even defended it for by "innovative". But, by the 4th loop it was just going for too long. Now it will go for 8 (endless 8 = 8 episodes lolol) and it just REALLY feels like wasted potential.

Also, new thread title is appropriate, i approve!

phil_

07-25-2009, 01:21 AM

I can't fault it for helping me with my kanji and vocabulary. It's like a Dr. Seuss book; endless repetition in a sorta entertaining frame. Just without Seuss' weirdness.

Still, god damn, end already.

NonCon

07-25-2009, 01:56 AM

I can't verify how accurate it is as it may have just been a recurring joke during the interview, but it sounds like the staff is really pissed off about this, too. I guess a lot of them were boo-ing about it during an interview with one of the animators. I'd like to hear an audio version rather than just text, to verify though. :P

InsaneGenius

07-25-2009, 05:26 AM

I think I'd be pissed if I had to make the same episode at least 8 times.

Has Nagaru Tanigawa voiced an opinion on this yet? Or does he simply not care?

Odjn

07-25-2009, 09:28 AM

why the fuck did I watch it

this is getting to the "one minute long still shot while Beethoven's 9th plays in the background" level of pretentiousness of Evangelion

My pretentiousness is at least not flat out ridiculous!

Naqel

07-26-2009, 02:51 PM

*looks left, right and left again*

I...

*looks right again just in case*

I actually enjoy the arc!

*runs in eight different directions at the same time*

But seriously, as annoying as the repetitions are, they do(although only as a secondary reaction) make the arc give the Déjà vu feeling it should have.

NonCon

07-26-2009, 03:59 PM

But seriously, as annoying as the repetitions are, they do(although only as a secondary reaction) make the arc give the Déjà vu feeling it should have.

It stopped being Deja Vu and became trolly, pretentious bullshit when I don't know Japanese and know the episode line for line and don't even have to wait for subs, though there is no way in hell I'm watching the full episodes anymore.

InsaneGenius

07-27-2009, 10:22 AM

Question: Do they use the same audio over and over?
Or are the lines rerecorded for each episode?

phil_

07-27-2009, 10:50 AM

Question: Do they use the same audio over and over?
Or are the lines rerecorded for each episode?Every episode has new voice acting and animation. I'm pretty sure it's entirely new voice acting and animation, but I don't want to say it is for sure because someone will find some frames that were re-used and then I'll look dumb.

grthwllms

07-27-2009, 11:17 AM

Every episode has new voice acting and animation. I'm pretty sure it's entirely new voice acting and animation, but I don't want to say it is for sure because someone will find some frames that were re-used and then I'll look dumb.

At the very least they rerecord it everytime Itsuki says "I love you"

Regulus Tera

07-30-2009, 04:57 PM

http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/39/1248969023091.jpg

Haruhi is the most entertaining show this season by a mile. It's so entertaining I don't even have to watch it to get entertained each week. Kyoto Animation better keep this up, because I have really high expectations now.

Here's hoping that these seven episodes of Endless Eight go on for another five episodes.

NonCon

07-30-2009, 10:00 PM

I don't even really know what to say anymore. I probably won't even watch the full conclusion episode at this point. I can't wait to see how terrible the DVD sales are and if they aren't terrible I will start cutting people.

Bells

07-30-2009, 10:41 PM

If they are smart they'll spread Endless 8 trought all the DVD's, making you have to buy all of them to get the other, possibly good, episodes.

Then again... they decided to make 8 episodes to Endless 8... so... not that clever.

Regulus Tera

07-31-2009, 02:19 PM

Now that I've actually watched it...

That was probably the best directed Endless Eight so far. They really played on the whole "time looping" thing many times, and the "old-VCR" effect from the climax was extremely good. Too bad it's been preceded by a string of bad-quality-and-too-reliant-on-stills episodes.

If this were just the third iteration of the arc I think I'd love it.

EDIT: I just realised it's called Endless Eight because of the month of August. Which means it would be fitting that it ends during the last week of August!
EDIT2: Relevant: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6uexjm08a0&fmt=18

NonCon

07-31-2009, 02:44 PM

EDIT: I just realised it's called Endless Eight because of the month of August. Which means it would be fitting that it ends during the last week of August!

In my desperate search for a reason other than it being eight episodes long, I caught on to it being due to August pretty quick. If it ends during the last week of August though, people will die.

InsaneGenius

07-31-2009, 03:16 PM

So... I assume it's still not over. I haven't watched any of the episodes of the new season yet. But... The Fuck? It's enough already. Use the budget for those episodes to bring us some other stories. I'm going to watch it eventually. At least I know I can skip a few episodes without missing anything important.

EDIT2: Relevant: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6uexjm08a0&fmt=18
Thank you.

NonCon

07-31-2009, 03:20 PM

At this point I'd be more surprised that it ended on the eighth Endless Eight than that it didn't.

Regulus Tera

08-06-2009, 01:56 PM

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2009-08-05/haruhi-endless-eight-arc-confirmed-to-end

An early copy of the September issue of Kadokawa Shoten's Newtype magazine has confirmed that the current Endless Eight arc of The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya television anime series will end this week. The Newtype issue will officially ship on Monday. The Endless Eight arc recounts a short time-loop plotline from Nagaru Tanigawa and Noizi Ito's original science-fiction comedy light novels. In the anime version, the same story was used for several episodes in the row, with minor changes from week to week. The anime has been in this story arc since June 19.

And, lo and behold, it actually ended today.

Watch how next week's episode is a recapitulation of all of Endless Eight.

NonCon

08-06-2009, 01:59 PM

And yet I'm still not sure if I feel like watching it. Funny how that works, eh?

InsaneGenius

08-06-2009, 02:06 PM

Okay, no hidden text. It seems to be over for real this time.
How many episodes are still left? Five? What kind of lame joke is this?

Regulus Tera

08-06-2009, 02:26 PM

Just enough to do Sigh!

And yet I'm still not sure if I feel like watching it. Funny how that works, eh?

What if I told you there's a latin chorus?

NonCon

08-06-2009, 02:30 PM

And then Kyon grows a single wing and summons meteor?

Julford Hajime

08-06-2009, 03:13 PM

Only after you fight him with three different groups at a time.

InsaneGenius

08-06-2009, 03:32 PM

It's seven wings. SEVEN![/faked fanboyism] But I don't know how that's important to this topic. We should be celebrating now or something.

What annoys me most of all this is that we can probably wait another three years or so to get a new season without Endless Eight.

Or maybe, just for the hell of it, there will be eight episodes of Endless Eight in every season that is to come.

NonCon

08-06-2009, 03:37 PM

After how much money I expect them to lose due to Endless Eight, as well as the fact that it'll be hard as hell to get any sponsors after this, I'm expecting this will be the last Haruhi season. I don't think they'll be able to afford another.

InsaneGenius

08-06-2009, 04:17 PM

That thought crossed my mind too, assuming the executives only know cold hard numbers.
So some bogus director or whoever is responsible for this screwed up a season (at least a good portion of it) of an anime of a series that has (or so I've heard) become quite a phenomenon.

but I'm pretty much an optimist most of the time (mostly due to the "phenomenon" part, in this case), so I honestly don't think that this will stop them from making a third season, I can't know for sure, though, of course.

krogothwolf

08-06-2009, 04:18 PM

That goes to show you, finish your summer homework or you are doomed to have to watch endless eight over and over again.

How has endless eight been received by the rest of the fan base anyways?

NonCon

08-06-2009, 04:21 PM

The vast majority hate it, though some like it, but I don't think even the few people who like it like it enough to buy four too expensive DVD's of the same episode.

Fifthfiend

08-06-2009, 04:56 PM

You're all going to buy all of them because the real point of the exercise was to embed subliminal messaging into every stupid repeated episode.

Also cause alla y'all're nerds and you'll buy any stupid thing the Man tells you to.

NonCon

08-06-2009, 11:10 PM

Despite growing incredibly bored several times throughout, I watched the whole episode. I think it was my favorite, just for the Haruhi walking out the door part. Incredibly well done. Nice music too. I still hope their DVD sales are shit, and I'm certainly not buying any DVD that has Endless Eight on it, at least not the ones in between the beginning and end, but it ended well. Would have ended even better if it had ended a month earlier, though.

Regulus Tera

08-07-2009, 12:27 AM

That ending was awesome.

Not worth the cost, but definitely awesome.

Fifthfiend

08-07-2009, 02:33 AM

You know what'd be awesome?

If the next episode is the ending all over again.

Regulus Tera

08-07-2009, 03:25 AM

They'll go back to re-runs of the first season next week instead.

Bells

08-07-2009, 03:53 AM

I like to think that Kyon's excitement over him actually figuring out how to end the time loop is in part due to the voice actor's excitement of finally being able to read and memorize new dialog

NonCon

08-13-2009, 10:13 PM

So, apparently the current Haruhi director is saying that if they ever did do a Haruhi movie, it would almost certainly be Endless Eight. What the shit. Source will be posted later if anyone cares.

Also, I'm excited! Later today we get our first not Endless Eight episode in months!

Regulus Tera

08-13-2009, 11:50 PM

Five bucks say we'll go back to the season one episodes today.

phil_

08-14-2009, 02:27 AM

It's Tsuruya time now! Woo! I cut out my cursing 'cause I'm so nice!

NonCon

08-14-2009, 04:43 AM

Episode was pretty great. Haruhi was so damned cute. I'm really looking forward to this arc. As someone who hasn't read the novels yet, I wasn't aware that we'd get to see them actually making the movie.

RickZarber

08-14-2009, 03:07 PM

Man, this episode just makes me even more pissed off about Endless Eight; it wasted opportunities for far superior episodes that we could have had instead.

*sigh* Guess we won't be getting "Disappearance" this season. Maybe in 2012...

phil_

08-15-2009, 12:28 AM

But we should get (novel spoilers) Koizumi physically holding Kyon back from punching Haruhi in the face, so that'll be nice.

NonCon

08-15-2009, 12:30 AM

I assume she deserves it. Also reminds me of a comment Kyon made about something along those lines in the first ep of this season.

Apparently there will be a major Haruhi announcement in the near future. You guys just might get your Disappearance after all.

phil_

08-30-2009, 01:57 AM

So, Eltargrim's having his little drunk post thread now, but this belongs here.

Instead of partying tonight, I found this screen cap:

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/6285/theonlyscreencapineed.jpg

I feel the need to reiterate my "It's Tsuruya time now," with the additional comment that, even if Sighs takes 8 more episodes, it was totally worth it. Also, Mikuru's suffering is terribly entertaining, as are Haruhi's off-hand comments about the various people she's screwing over in making her movie.

NonCon

09-05-2009, 10:50 PM

So this episode made me hate Haruhi. (The character not the show) Kyon was pretty awesome though. I wish he had hit her. She deserved it.

Kepor

09-05-2009, 11:21 PM

So this episode made me hate Haruhi. (The character not the show) Kyon was pretty awesome though. I wish he had hit her. She deserved it.

Yeah. For what it's worth, she gets better.

Also, could anyone send me a PM about where you guys are watching this?

phil_

09-06-2009, 12:09 AM

Yay, I can post here again! I've been wanting to since yesterday when I watched this episode. I was a little worried that you'd all stopped watching, what with the super-slow pace and all.

The scene with the novel spoilers from my last sober post was really, really great. It was all I could hope for and captured the importance of Haruhi pushing past Kyon's limit. Tsuruya kinda came out looking as horrible as Haruhi, but whatcha gonna do? She screwed up/underestimated god.

Still, next episode is (novel spoilers) capturing Shamisen, with a bit of Kyon's little sister for her fans, so that should be nice.

Kepor

09-07-2009, 02:42 AM

(novel spoilers)Talking Shamisen will be something to see. And the scene with (episode spoilers) Kyon and Haruhi in the clubroom after the fight was rather well done. Nice touch that they had Haruhi testing her hair in a ponytail. Kyon just sort of ignored that in the novel.

NonCon

09-11-2009, 07:00 PM

Seasons over. The ending was pretty great. Now we get to wait three more years for Disappearance. Whooooooh.

MasterOfMagic

09-11-2009, 07:23 PM

Maybe they'll make more endless 8 to tide us over.

InsaneGenius

09-12-2009, 06:37 AM

So, now tell me which Endless Eights I should see, so I can watch that season.

Man, I knew It'd pay off to wait for an entire season to finish before I watch it some day.

What I'm really waiting for is a new book though, because I want to know If I can finally have a called it moment, because, man that's so ovious I'm probably wrong anyway.

NonCon

09-12-2009, 08:19 AM

Either the first, seventh, and eighth, or the first, fourth, and eighth. I think seeing three of them is the ideal number.

phil_

09-13-2009, 12:09 AM

Well, I just watched the end of Sighs, and, really, that was nice. It set up some of the subtexts of the novels, and ended with a nicely paced and directed scene than was pretty funny. Eight episodes of Endless Eight sucked, yeah, but Sighs and Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody, well, they weren't a complete let down after all this time.

Now, if those book 10 rumors are true (namely, that it's being written), then I'll be a happy camper.

NonCon

09-13-2009, 12:11 AM

Well, I just watched the end of Sighs, and, really, that was nice. It set up some of the subtexts of the novels, and ended with a nicely paced and directed scene than was pretty funny. Eight episodes of Endless Eight sucked, yeah, but Sighs and Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody, well, they weren't a complete let down after all this time.

I loved them, but they make me hate Endless Eight more because all that time could have been spent on similarly good stuff.

Oh well, hope they announce another season soon.