Word Combat

[Runswithnopants]

Rules (http://sites.google.com/site/yofreakinho/word-combat-rules), for future reference.

Cati - 15
Darthmauler64 - 15
Ex. 68471 - 15
Major Blood - 15
Megaman FTW - 15
Moogle0119 - 15
Preturbed – 15

First word: Laughter

Begin Round 1.

[Major Blood]

Aids.

[DarthMauler64]

Gag.

[Cati]

Tears.

[Moogle0119]

CAD (Ctrl+Alt+Delete)

[Preturbed]

Slaughter.

[Runswithnopants]

Cati - 14 (-1, failed negation; laughter itself can cause tears!)
Darthmauler64 - 15
Ex. 68471 - 14 (-1, failed negation; no post.)
Major Blood - 15
Megaman FTW - 14 (-1, failed negation; no post.)
Moogle0119 - 15
Preturbed – 15 / (+/; / is a pun mark. Made me laugh.)

Minimum of two hours for dispute. You may argue for or against any player's status change this round.

[Preturbed]

Aids.

I don't know whether I'm arguing for or against this one, but for your consideration: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lb497jSCyaI

[Runswithnopants]

Final Standing:

Cati - 14
Darthmauler64 - 15
Ex. 68471 - 14
Major Blood - 15
Megaman FTW - 14
Moogle0119 - 15
Preturbed – 15 /

Word set:

Aids.
Gag.
Tears.
CAD
Slaughter.

Begin Round 2.

[Moogle0119]

Aids = Research
Gag = Reflex
Tears = Handkerchief
CAD = Graffiti
Slaughter = Sheik

[Cati]

Aids = Cure.
Gag = Swallow.
Tears = Xerophthalmia.
CAD = Crash.
Slaughter = Resurrection.

[Ape Boy]

AIDS = Money
Gag = Safeword
Tears = Ozzy
CAD = Virus
Slaughter = Superhero

Also, Moog's answer for Slaughter is chalk full of win and awesome.

[Preturbed]

Aids. = Abstinence
Gag. = Heimlich
Tears. = Jesus
CAD = Gentleman
Slaughter. = Victory

[DarthMauler64]

AIDS = Immunity
Gag = Scissors
Tears = Freezing
CAD = Blindness
Slaughter = Armor

[Megaman FTW]

Aids - Cyanide
Gag - Heimlich
Tears - Happiness
CAD - Humor
Slaughter - Pacifism

EDIT: I won't do it now, since I haven't asked yet, but if you find out 1 second after you post your word that someone else posted that word, can we edit our words so long as they have not been scored yet?

Also: The time tags say that our first round went from 10:00 PM to 2:00 AM. WTF?

[Moogle0119]

Runswithnopants started it officially in the sign-up thread on 03-02-2009 at 11:39 PM and ended today (03-04-2009) at 1:32 AM. I'm going by Eastern time though but still that's 26 hours.

[Major Blood]

Aids. = Nothing
Gag. = Tracheotomy
Tears. = Salt
CAD = Chivalry
Slaughter. = Police

[Megaman FTW]

Ok, my bad, it was 1 day and some hours. Tags made it look like he left the first day open for only 4 hours, so I was confused.

[Runswithnopants]

Cati - 14 / (+/ for CAD=Crash)
Darthmauler64 - 14 (-1, failed negation; I don't get scissors.)
Ex. 68471 - 9 (-5 failed negations; no post.)
Major Blood - 8 (-2, failed negations; I don't get answers for Aids and Tears. -5 repetition; Chivalry is too close to Gentleman.)
Megaman FTW - 8 (-5, repetition of Heimlich. -1 for Tears - Happiness. Tears of joy!)
Moogle0119 - 12 (-3, failed negations; I don't get your answers for Gag, CAD, or Slaughter. You make me feel dumb!)
Preturbed – 14 // (-1, failed negation; Tears.=Jesus? I don't get it. +/ for CAD=Gentleman)

Ape Boy - -∞ (-∞, didn't sign up!)

Dispute phase of Round 2. 24 hours.

Just for clarification: You can edit your post up until the very moment I post the results. In the event that you accidentally repeat something someone else said, the person who posted first gets to keep it. If the repetition remains as I write the results, you will suffer the point loss.

Don't get any funny ideas; if you post earlier, and edit your post to cause repetition with a later post, and I catch you at it, you will lose all of your points. I consider that cheating.

Also, reading over these, I realize that I may not get some of them. If I don't get it, I'll say so, and you can explain it in the dispute phase of the round, which has been extended to a full 24 hours minimum.

From now on, I'd prefer if rules discussion happened in the sign up thread, to reduce the clutter in here.

[Major Blood]

Major Blood - 8 (-2, failed negations; I don't get answers for Aids and Tears. -5 repetition; Chivalry is too close to Gentleman.)

Since aids doesn't have a cure, there's nothing that negates it. As for Tears, well Salt affects the body's water retention. Chivalry however, i'll give you that.

[DarthMauler64]

Darthmauler64 - 14 (-1, failed negation; I don't get scissors.)


Use the scissors to cut the gag.

[Megaman FTW]

Use the scissors to cut the gag.

^^^
WIN

XD

[Preturbed]

Revelation 21:4
He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.

[Moogle0119]

I wasn't sure whether we made our cases either in the game thread or via PM, either way I'll follow up by posting it here...

Gag = Reflex
It's a negation because a gag that is put into your mouth stops you from talking, yet if you have fast Reflexes you can avoid such a fate. It's also a pun because "Gag Reflex" is what causes you to choke on something if food goes down your trachea (wind pipe) instead.

CAD = Graffiti
It's basically me saying graffiti writing on the walls of buildings can be way more artistic than the CAD comic is. More of a personal opinion honestly.

Slaughter = Sheik

Sgt. (Slaughter) = Iron (Sheik)
http://www.ugo.com/sports/best-wrestling-faces/images/entries/sergeant-slaughter.jpg

http://triumphmma.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/shiek.jpg
If you watched any WWF back in the early 1980's Sgt Slaughter was a guy who acted as an army boot camp instructor guy who waved around the American Flag a lot. Anyway his "nemesis" or arch-rival was another wrestler called the Iron Sheik and they had a rivalry going on for a few years which also mirrored the current events (at that time) with the tension of the Iranian hostage situation.

[Preturbed]

It's a negation because a gag that is put into your mouth stops you from talking, yet if you have fast Reflexes you can avoid such a fate. It's also a pun because "Gag Reflex" is what causes you to choke on something if food goes down your trachea (wind pipe) instead.

I disagree with this one, reflexes just aren't good enough to stop you from gagging a lot of the time. I mean look at former president Bush, he has amazing shoe-dodging reflexes yet he choked on a pretzel.

[Moogle0119]

Well that's what the gag reflex is for....
Edit: Reflexes were to prevent having someone actually put a gag in your mouth, not actually gagging on something. I thought I explained that pretty well in the above post.

[Runswithnopants]

Final standing for Round 2:

Cati - 14 / (+/ for CAD=Crash)

Darthmauler64 - 15 Restored 1 point for Gag=Scissors.

Ex. 68471 - 9 (-5 failed negations; no post.)

Major Blood - 9 (-1, failed negations; I don't get answers for Aids and Tears. -5 repetition; Chivalry is too close to Gentleman.) Restored 1 point for Tears=Salt. Rejected Aids=Nothing because the whole point is to negate the word, not say that you can't.

Megaman FTW - 8 (-5, repetition of Heimlich. -1 for Tears - Happiness. Tears of joy!)

Moogle0119 - 14 // (-1 for CAD=Graffiti. +// for Gag=Reflex and Slaughter=Sheik.) Restored two points for Gag=Reflex and Slaughter=Sheik. CAD=Graffiti is rejected because the existence of graffiti does not really negate CAD, even if it is better. Also, I'm not old enough to have watched those wrestling matches! They happened before I was born.

Preturbed – 15 // (+/ for CAD=Gentleman) Restored 1 point for Tears=Jesus, though, I must say, you used quite a powerful, or, I suppose it would be better to say versatile, word for a pretty mundane concept.

Word set:

Handkerchief
Xerophthalmia
Gentleman
Immunity
Cyanide
Police
Resurrection

Begin Round 3.

[Preturbed]

Handkerchief = moths
Xerophthalmia = eyedrops
Gentleman = villain
Immunity = susceptibility
Cyanide = antidote
Police = anarchy
Resurrection = Abortion

[Moogle0119]

Handkerchief = Rivers
Xerophthalmia = Morgan-lens
Gentleman = Crudeness
Immunity = Evolution
Cyanide = Vomitting
Police = Distrust
Resurrection = Bodyless

Edit: Damn Preturbed you took a few of mine...

Rethinking 2-4 on the list

Re-edit: Ok done.

[DarthMauler64]

Handkerchief - Ripping
Xerophthalmia - Humidifier
Gentleman - M
Immunity - Time
Cyanide - Vommiting
Police - Joker
Resurrection - Zombification

[Cati]

Handkerchief - Kleenex
Xerophthalmia - Epiphora
Gentleman - Vagabond
Immunity - Lupus
Cyanide - Bleach
Police - Mafia
Resurrection - Damnation

[Runswithnopants]

Cati - 13 / (-1, failed negation; I possess both a handkerchief and boxes of Kleenex brand tissues with no problem at all!)

Darthmauler64 - 7 (-3, failed negations; I need an explanation for Gentleman=M, and Immunity=Time (I think I know where you're giong with that one, but I need to make sure.). Zombification seems to me as another form of resurrection. -5, repetition; Vomiting.)

Ex. 68471 - 2 (-7, failed negations; no post.)

Major Blood - 2 (-7, failed negations; no post.)

Megaman FTW - 1 (-7, failed negations; no post.)

Moogle0119 - 12 // (-2, failed negations; Need an explanation for Handkerchief, and morgan-lens is actually two words according to a quick Google search.)

Preturbed – 11 // (-2, failed negations; Gentlemanly villains are all over literature and media, and I don't get how an abortion would negate a resurrection. -2, antonym; Immunity=Susceptibility.)

Dispute phase of Round 3.

Edit: Needed to correctly display Darth's score. I forgot to subtract the points.

[Cati]

Cati - 13 / (-1, failed negation; I possess both a handkerchief and boxes of Kleenex brand tissues with no problem at all!)

Darthmauler64 - 15 (-3, failed negations; I need an explanation for Gentleman=M, and Immunity=Time (I think I know where you're giong with that one, but I need to make sure.). Zombification seems to me as another form of resurrection. -5, repetition; Vomiting.)

Ex. 68471 - 2 (-7, failed negations; no post.)

Major Blood - 2 (-7, failed negations; no post.)

Megaman FTW - 1 (-7, failed negations; no post.)

Moogle0119 - 12 // (-2, failed negations; Need an explanation for Handkerchief, and morgan-lens is actually two words according to a quick Google search.)

Preturbed – 11 // (-2, failed negations; Gentlemanly villains are all over literature and media, and I don't get how an abortion would negate a resurrection. -2, antonym; Immunity=Susceptibility.)

Dispute phase of Round 3.

Reason behind the Kleenex thing -- Kleenex, or disposable handkerchiefs, whatever, were created to replace the real thing. While I too have a few handkerchiefs, do you use it for Kleenex-y blow-your-nose-oh-I'm-sick type purposes? I mean, I don't, nor does anybody else that I know that has a handkerchief. They either use them as something to "wear" (looks nice) or they use them to wipe their hands of gunk, like oil or paint or something. Not something contagious.

[Preturbed]

Cati - 13 / (-1, failed negation; I possess both a handkerchief and boxes of Kleenex brand tissues with no problem at all!)

Darthmauler64 - 15 (-3, failed negations; I need an explanation for Gentleman=M, and Immunity=Time (I think I know where you're giong with that one, but I need to make sure.). Zombification seems to me as another form of resurrection. -5, repetition; Vomiting.)

Ex. 68471 - 2 (-7, failed negations; no post.)

Major Blood - 2 (-7, failed negations; no post.)

Megaman FTW - 1 (-7, failed negations; no post.)

Moogle0119 - 12 // (-2, failed negations; Need an explanation for Handkerchief, and morgan-lens is actually two words according to a quick Google search.)

Preturbed – 11 // (-2, failed negations; Gentlemanly villains are all over literature and media, and I don't get how an abortion would negate a resurrection. -2, antonym; Immunity=Susceptibility.)

Dispute phase of Round 3.

Abortion - Well it stops the chance of having a life to resurrect.

villain - I guess I'll give you that one.

[DarthMauler64]

Gentleman = M
I read that in the movie "The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen" M is main villain against The League of Extraordinary Gentleman.

Immunity = Time
Don't quite remember what I was thinking of, but I think it was that immunity to diseases decreases as time passes.

The other two are me being an idiot.

[Moogle0119]

Damn I had always thought Morgan Lenses was hyphenated, oh well.

As for the "Rivers" negating a handkerchief, well a handkerchief is used to dry you eyes or nose, but if the handkerchief is dunked in a river (or any body of water really) then it can't dry anything since it will be wet.

[Runswithnopants]

I'm not going to be able to update over the next week or so, because, joy of joys, it's midterm week. I'll send out PM's when I'm ready to keep going. Have a nice week, guys!

[Cati]

Good luck with the midterms!

[Megaman FTW]

Well, now that my HP are down to one I guess I should start playing. Maybe I'll manage to drag out the last little bits of my life for a while.

Although I'd like to ask if we could have the penalty for no post removed in the future. Not posting is enough of a penalty in and of itself since you lose points for all the negations you didn't make whilst not posting, and a lot of the time it has more to do with forces beyond the control of the poster than anything else.

[Runswithnopants]

Round 3, Final Standings:

Cati - 13 / (-1, failed negation; I possess both a handkerchief and boxes of Kleenex brand tissues with no problem at all! Dispute rejected, because the handkerchief's being reappropriated is not the same as it being negated.)

Darthmauler64 - 9 (-1, failed negation; I need an explanation for Gentleman=M, and Immunity=Time (I think I know where you're giong with that one, but I need to make sure.). Zombification seems to me as another form of resurrection. -5, repetition; Vomiting. Restored 2 points for Gentleman=M and Immunity=Time.)

Ex. 68471 - 2 (-7, failed negations; no post.)

Major Blood - 2 (-7, failed negations; no post.)

Megaman FTW - 1 (-7, failed negations; no post.)

Moogle0119 - 13 // (-1, failed negations; Need an explanation for Handkerchief, and morgan-lens is actually two words according to a quick Google search. Restored 1 point for Handkerchief=River.)

Preturbed – 12 // (-1, failed negation; Gentlemanly villains are all over literature and media, and I don't get how an abortion would negate a resurrection. -2, antonym; Immunity=Susceptibility. Restored 1 point for Resurrection=Abortion.)

Note for Megaman FTW: The total point loss for a no post is always equivalent to the number of missed negations. I just say "no post" to indicate why all the negations were failed.

New word set:

Anarchy
Distrust
Time
Bleach
Mafia
Antidote
Evolution

Begin Round 4.

[DarthMauler64]

Anarchy - Powerhungry
Distrust - Contract
Time - Twinkies
Bleach - Viz
Mafia - Batman
Antidote - Unaffordability
Evolution - Everstone

EDIT(3-15-2009 at 8:10PM): Changing Bleach from Whiteness to cleanliness
EDIT2: Changing Bleach from Cleanliness to Viz.

[Moogle0119]

Anarchy - Law
Distrust - Precognition
Time - Astral
Bleach - OxiClean
Mafia - Entropy
Antidote - Potency
Evolution - Extinction

Done!

[Cati]

Anarchy - Harmony
Distrust - Friendship
Time - Energy
Bleach - Ammonia
Mafia - Apocalypse
Antidote - Ricin
Evolution - Degeneration

[Preturbed]

Anarchy - Anarchy
Distrust - Transparency
Time - Immortality
Bleach - Remote
Mafia - Legalization
Antidote - Tolerence
Evolution - Creationism

[Moogle0119]

......so let's keep this going eh?

[Runswithnopants]

Cati - 11 / (-2, failed negations; Need an explanation for Harmony. Also, degeneration, at times, leads directly to evolution. There are some who would say that all evolution results from the degeneration, or mutation, of genetic material. Which, well... It does. I don't know why I had to qualify that statement. Oh well!)

Darthmauler64 - 8 // (-1, failed negation; not being able to afford an antidote doesn't mean the antidote doesn't exist or work. There's always theft! +// for Viz and Everstone.)

Moogle0119 - 8 // (-2, antonym; Anarchy - Law. -3, failed negations; Need an explanation for Mafia and Astral. OxiClean's efficacy aside, bleach is still very much extant. I feel wordy today. Am I wordy today?)

Preturbed – 5 /// (-5, repetition; Anarchy. Silly! -3, failed negations; Immortality would be a rather excruciating way to experience time (I think so, at least.), but would not change the fact of time. In the same vein as Darth's answer to antidote, tolerance does not mean the antidote isn't there or useful. Also, creationism does not negate evolution. I hope that doesn't start an argument about religion. +/ for Remote; +1.)

Ex. 68471 - 0 (-7, failed negations; no post.)

Major Blood - 0 (-7, failed negations; no post.)

Megaman FTW - 0 (-7, failed negations; no post.)

Dispute phase of Round 4. Time limit extended to 3 days, because apparently even the GM has trouble with 1 day. D'oh.

[Moogle0119]

Mafia - Entropy
Entropy negates Mafia because the Mafia games on this forum can't be played if Entropy sets in and people stop checking in on it to play and then the game ends because people lost interest. It was meant as a funny joke but it's entirely true as well if you're considering it as the Mafia game on this forum.
Time - Astral
From D&D 3.5 rules in the Dungeon Master's Guide it states that the Astral Plane has the timeless trait. So any aging/hunger/thirst/etc.. cannot occur there thus negating time since time is effectively stopped.
Bleach - OxiClean
OxiClean (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vE_kVeJB4mQ) (start watching at 20 secs) is better than Bleach in everyway. "If you use bleach, you ruin your clothes! OxiClean won't hurt the material! Even lace! It has the power of bleach without the damaging side effects of chlorine!" If it's good enough for Billy Mays it's good enough for me and I don't dare question his judgement. But if it's better than bleach and even taking away the bad parts of bleach then there's no point in using bleach anymore, thus it has been negated.

[Cati]

Anarchy = chaos, social disorder. Harmony = order. To keep order among people, people have to make agreements, you know? And agreements (laws = agreement by a community) are kind of the antithesis of anarchy.

Edit: And I'll attempt to argue evolution and degeneration for kicks. Evolution is progressive. If it's not progressive, I don't think it's actually considered evolution? And degeneration is... well, not progressive, obviously. I know exactly what you are saying though. I argue anyway. :P

[Preturbed]

Preturbed – 5 /// (-5, repetition; Anarchy. Silly! -3, failed negations; Immortality would be a rather excruciating way to experience time (I think so, at least.), but would not change the fact of time. In the same vein as Darth's answer to antidote, tolerance does not mean the antidote isn't there or useful. Also, creationism does not negate evolution. I hope that doesn't start an argument about religion. +/ for Remote; +1.)


Sure creationism negates evolution. If one exists, the other does not. Pretty simple I thought. It doesn't even get into religious discussion.

So nothing negates time then? How does energy, for example, negate time? Twinkies have a tolerance for time but less so than immortality. I don't understand how that answer can count while mine does not.

What's my other failed negation?

[Runswithnopants]

Sure creationism negates evolution. If one exists, the other does not. Pretty simple I thought. It doesn't even get into religious discussion.

So nothing negates time then? How does energy, for example, negate time? Twinkies have a tolerance for time but less so than immortality. I don't understand how that answer can count while mine does not.

What's my other failed negation?

Antidote.

Also, I've found that humor increases my willingness to accept stretches for answers... I'll have to fix that. Sorry!

Edit: And, Cati, if I were to use your definitions for those words, you'd end up with -2 for antonym use.

[Cati]

Edit: And, Cati, if I were to use your definitions for those words, you'd end up with -2 for antonym use.

*pouts* :D


How does energy, for example, negate time?


First law of thermodynamics: "Energy can be transformed, but it can neither be created nor destroyed." So time has no bearing on energy.

[Runswithnopants]

He's right, though. The reasoning I used to nix his answer can also be applied to energy. Pretty dumb of me.

Cati - 11 / (-2, failed negations; Need an explanation for Harmony. Also, degeneration, at times, leads directly to evolution. There are some who would say that all evolution results from the degeneration, or mutation, of genetic material. Which, well... It does. I don't know why I had to qualify that statement. Oh well!)

Darthmauler64 - 8 // (-1, failed negation; not being able to afford an antidote doesn't mean the antidote doesn't exist or work. There's always theft! +// for Viz and Everstone.)

Moogle0119 - 11 // (-2, antonym; Anarchy - Law. -3, failed negations; Need an explanation for Mafia and Astral. OxiClean's efficacy aside, bleach is still very much extant. Restored 1 point for Mafia - Entropy, even though that's a really broad definition of entropy... I'll let it slide this time. Restored 2 points for Astral and OxiClean, same deal.)

Preturbed – 7 /// (-5, repetition; Anarchy. Silly! -3, failed negations; Immortality would be a rather excruciating way to experience time (I think so, at least.), but would not change the fact of time. In the same vein as Darth's answer to antidote, tolerance does not mean the antidote isn't there or useful. Also, creationism does not negate evolution. I hope that doesn't start an argument about religion. +/ for Remote; +1. Restored 2 points for Immortality and Antidote because I was being contradictory in my judgments. Creationism... Still rejected. It's possible for a creator to have set evolution in motion, both the very general "everything science says happened" evolution and the very specific "what biology defines evolution as" evolution. So they don't negate each other.)

New word set:

Batman
Entropy
Ricin
Transparency

Begin Round 5.

[DarthMauler64]

Batman - Writers
Entropy - Bumping
Ricin - Containment
Transparency - Paint

[Moogle0119]

Batman - Bane
Entropy - Ectropy
Ricin - Decontamination
Transparency - Lead

[Cati]

Batman - Reality
Entropy - Equilibrium
Ricin - Glucose
Transparency - Mask

[Preturbed]

Batman - Joker
Entropy - Intervention
Ricin - Extinction
Transparency - Melanin

[Runswithnopants]

Cati - 9 / (-2, failed negations; Need an explanation for Entropy and Ricin.)

Darthmauler64 - 7 // (-1, failed negation; Entropy - Bumping. Need an explanation for why bumping would stop entropy.)

Moogle0119 - 9 // (-2, antonym; Entropy - Ectropy.)

Preturbed – 5 (-2, failed negations; Need an explanation for Entropy. Batman and Joker are usually considered to actually be fairly complementary people.)

Dispute phase of Round 5. 72ish hours.

[Preturbed]

Entropy states (basically) that without outside influence, a system breaks down over time. Intervention from outside the system may stop the breakdown.

Joker is the negation of Batman because, unlike any of Batman's other enemies, he is always just beyond his reach. He's the villian that Batman can't catch, making all the Bat's hard work for nothing.

[DarthMauler64]

To prevent a mafia thread from going to entropy bump the thread? I dunno, I couldn't think of anything I was grasping at straws.

Also I already used Joker before.
http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showpost.php?p=902857&postcount=30

[Runswithnopants]

To prevent a mafia thread from going to entropy bump the thread? I dunno, I couldn't think of anything I was grasping at straws.

Also I already used Joker before.
http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showpost.php?p=902857&postcount=30

Good catch. I haven't been policing repetitions as thoroughly as I should.

[Moogle0119]

Damn I really got nothing, I had initially checked Wikipedia on ectropy and while stating it was sorta the opposite it did say this for "Extropy"...

Extropy expresses a metaphor, rather than serving as a technical term, and so is not simply the opposite of entropy, although it is also considered the appropriate antonym.

....but I just checked other places on the web and it's stating that ectropy is the opposite of entropy word for word. Damn you wiki!

[Cati]

Entropy - Equilibrium

I had this whole thought-process thing going on here. Let's see if I can remember it. Um, entropy measures how close something-or-other is to equilibrium, yeah? So if it's at equilibrium, entropy can't occur anymore. Like room temperature and ice -- entropy occurs and then they equalize each other out and the ice is water and the water is room temperature and the temperature won't change anymore and this is joy.

Edit: Probably also should point out I'm using the thermodynamic definition here, oops.

Ricin - Glucose

According to Wikipedia, glucose and saline are treatment for ricin poisoning. My guess was that the glucose was more important in the whole treatment aspect since you need something to dissolve the glucose in, and dissolving it in regular water would probably be bad since you probably want to use a liquid that won't screw up the whole human body salinity thing on top of everything else. So yeah, glucose.

[Runswithnopants]

Round 5 Results:

Cati - 11 / (-2, failed negations; Need an explanation for Entropy and Ricin. Restored points for Ricin and Entropy.)

Darthmauler64 - 7 // (-1, failed negation; Entropy - Bumping. Need an explanation for why bumping would stop entropy. Entropy still stands. It's too far of a leap from Entropy to mafia threads.)

Moogle0119 - 9 // (-2, antonym; Entropy - Ectropy.)

Preturbed – 1 (-2, failed negations; Need an explanation for Entropy. Batman and Joker are usually considered to actually be fairly complementary people. Entropy still stands because outside intervention just represents a larger system, which is still subject to entropy. Restored 1 point for Batman, but then -5 for the repetition.)

New Word Set:

Extinction
Reality
Lead
Containment

Begin Round 6.

Edit: Also, there's a question (http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showpost.php?p=910659&postcount=15) for you guys over in the talk thread.

[Moogle0119]

Extinction - Adaptability
Reality - Daydream
Lead - Bismuth
Containment - Breach

[DarthMauler64]

Extinction - Cloning
Reality - Descartes
Lead - Nutrition
Containment - Oversized

[Preturbed]

Extinction - Preservation
Reality - Television
Lead - Follow
Containment - Velociraptor

[Cati]

Extinction - Inbreeding *
Reality - Perception
Lead - Balloon
Containment - Inclusion

* Why yes, there IS something wrong with my brain right now, :P

[Moogle0119]

4 day old bump

[Runswithnopants]

Cati - 8 / :S (-3, failed negations; need explanations for Reality, Lead, and Containment. +:S for Inbreeding!)

Darthmauler64 - 6 // (-1, failed negation; Cartesian skepticism may mean we can't know anything about reality, but the cogito ensures that at least one thing is real.)

Moogle0119 - 6 // (-1, failed negation; Reality - Daydream. No matter how much you daydream, reality is still right there to pluck you out of it. -2, antonym; Containment - Breach.)

Preturbed – 0 // (-2, antonym; Extinction - Preservation. +// for Velociraptor and Follow.)

Dispute Phase of Round 6.

[Moogle0119]

For Containment, Breach doesn't appear to be an antonym according to dictionary.com, regardless of whether you were using containment as a verb or as a noun. I was thinking of containment as the noun anyway

[Preturbed]

How is preservation the antonym of extinction? If I had written "survival," then I would roll over and admit defeat, but animals went extinct long before there was any conscious force preserving them.

[Cati]

Oh, dear, now I have to recreate my insane thoughts at the time. This ought to be interesting.

Reality - Perception
So let's say reality is truth, what is actually real, et cetera. Perception is reality as someone perceives it. Since perception is the only way we can actually VIEW reality, who can say reality (what is actually real) is truly real since we can only see it through perception-skewed glasses? You can prove perception exists, but you can't prove reality. So it's like... existence versus non-existence? I think.

I... get very, very philosophical when I'm tired. *brains*

Lead - Balloon
To be honest? Sleep-deprivation. "Balloon" was the only word my brain would put after lead at the time, and it was sort of punny. However, I'm feeling crazy at the moment and therefore, instead of giving this one up, I will PROVE to you that balloon is a perfectly acceptable response. Using LOGIC. Whoo!

L = "lead"
B = "balloon"
P = "pops"

1: L (There is lead.)
2: B (There is a balloon.)
3: B -> P (Balloons pop, a.k.a. it is only a balloon if it pops.)
4: L -> ~P (Lead does NOT pop, a.k.a. if it is lead, it does not pop.)
5: ~P -> ~B (3 rewritten using the definition of contrapositive.)
6: L -> ~P -> ~B (4 and 5 combined.)
Therefore:
L -> ~B (Via Modens Ponens)
Meaning if something is lead, it is not a balloon. The contrapositive is also true by definition, B -> ~L, meaning if something is a balloon, it is not lead. Therefore, the two are completely mutually exclusive, and something cannot be lead and a balloon at the same time.

I'm so, so sorry. *dies*

Containment - Inclusion
Oh, dear. I can't believe I actually put this one down, but here goes:

Under set theory, inclusion is when one set is subset of another set. In other words, one set is CONTAINED in another set. Back in the beginnings of set theory, I believe inclusion was originally called containment? That's my understanding, at least. Because the signs for inclusion look like C's, and that comes from some math-guy-dude saying C-for-containment, and yadda. In conclusion -- it used to be called containment. Now it's inclusion. Call it "containment" and you'll either get a "meh?" or a correction.

I think the lesson to be learned from this is that Cati should only play Word Combat after a good night's sleep.

Edit:

While I'm in an argumentive mood...

Containment - Breach
Containment: (noun) the act of containing, or keeping something from spreading, being released, whatever.
Breach: (noun) act or a result of breaking; (verb), to make a breach or an opening in.

I'd say the antonym of containment would be something that mean either:
1. causing something to spread
2. not containing.

In comparison to these, a breach doesn't CAUSE something to spread or released, -- it leaves an opportunity, but an opportunity doesn't mean it will occur. As for the second, a breach will lead to a lack of containment, true, but again, I'm seeing this as an act that causes the antonym of containment to occur, the lack of containment, not the antonym itself.

Extinction - Preservation
I also disagree about this being an antonym. Preservation is not the opposite of extinction, it's an act that prevents it.

[Runswithnopants]

Cati - 8 / :S (-3, failed negations; need explanations for Reality, Lead, and Containment. +:S for Inbreeding! Taking your argument for reality would lead to -2 instead, for antonyms. Also, your argument doesn't work for Lead. If you had used a more refined version of the language, such as predicate logic, the reason why would be evident. The lead and the balloon are separate objects, so saying that if they're the same they don't exist is silly. Containment stands because some people being picky about what it's called doesn't mean it's no longer valid.)

Darthmauler64 - 6 // (-1, failed negation; Cartesian skepticism may mean we can't know anything about reality, but the cogito ensures that at least one thing is real.)

Moogle0119 - 8 // (-1, failed negation; Reality - Daydream. No matter how much you daydream, reality is still right there to pluck you out of it. -2, antonym; Containment - Breach. Breach still stands. It's an antonym in the spirit of the game rules. Breach specifically is "Not containment." Nevermind, Cati saved your bacon.)

Preturbed – 1 // (-2, antonym; Extinction - Preservation. +// for Velociraptor and Follow. Restored points for Extinction - Preservation. Good argument.)

New Word Set:

Inbreeding
Velociraptor
Descartes
Adaptability

Begin Round 7.

[DarthMauler64]

Adaptability - Classics
Descartes - Bullet
Velociraptor - Meteor
Inbreeding - Awkwardness

EDIT: Changing to Meteor
EDIT2: Changing to Awkwardness

[Moogle0119]

Inbreeding - Sterility
Velociraptor - Cold
Descartes - Pneumonia
Adaptability - Superiority

[Runswithnopants]

So hey!

I'm gonna be out of town for the weekend, in the wild wilderness of wildness. Update won't be until Monday or Tuesday.

[Preturbed]

Inbreeding - Education
Velociraptor - Tranquilizer
Descartes - Candlejack
Adaptabi

Its been fun guys.

[Runswithnopants]

Cati - 4 / :S (-4, failed negations; no post.)

Darthmauler64 - 6 //

Moogle0119 - 7 // (-1, failed negation; Need an explanation for Superiority.)

Preturbed – 1 /// (-1, failed negation; Need an explanation for Descartes - Candlejack. +/ for Adaptabi. +1 for ///.)

I decided to go easier on you guys this time around. You can choose to then go harder on each other in the disputation round, if you like.

Dispute Phase of Rou

[Moogle0119]

Superiority - Well adaptability is great when you're trying to overcome an obstacle or find a solution to something, but the way to do it better and easier is to be just simply better or good enough that it's not necessary in the first place. An example would be to show adaptability in a war can turn the tide in your favor if things are close, however if you are superior to begin with then it would never become an issue in the first place, thus negating any need to have adaptability.

[Runswithnopants]

Final Standing for Round 6:

Cati - 4 / :S

Darthmauler64 - 6 //

Moogle0119 - 8 //

Preturbed – 1

New Word Set:

Sterility
Meteor
Awkwardness
Candlejack

Begin Ro

[DarthMauler64]

Sterility - Adoption
Meteor - Willis
Awkwardness - Icebreaker
Candlejack - Silence

I sure hope these negations are enou

[Moogle0119]

Sterility - Cloning
Meteor - Ultima
Awkwardness - Wingman
Candlejack - Nothi

[Runswithnopants]

Darthmauler64 - 6 //

Moogle0119 - 8 /// (-1, failed negation; Nothi. +/ for Meteor - Wingman. +1 for ///.)

Preturbed – 0 (-4, failed negations; no post.)

Cati - 0 / :S (-4, failed negations; no post.)

Dispute phase of Round... Whatever we're up to now. It is to your advantage to argue against your opponent's submissions, especially now that it's so close!

[DarthMauler64]

Already used Cloning to negate Extinction

http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showpost.php?p=910779&postcount=65

EDIT: Also if Moogle meant "Nothing" that was used before too

http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showpost.php?p=902343&postcount=17

but it might be different since he used Nothi since Candlejack was bei

EDIT2: Was Moogle's +/ for Meteor or Wingman? You had them put together as a pair, but they were separate.

[Runswithnopants]

Meteor. My bad.

[david_in_perth]

Bump!

C'mon people, I want to know who wins!

[wight24]

Bob the builder