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Bells
01-16-2009, 05:55 PM
Collider.com's Matt Goldberg reports that Fox is ordering "extensive" re-shoots of the sequel to the successful box office smash. Director Gavin Hood was rumored to have butted heads with the studio during filming. Hood wanted to go the way of Dark Knight, taking the comic flick strip to the darker side of things, while the studio maintained that it should be kid-friendly fare. Looks like the studio may have won.

It's been rumored that Superman director Richard Donner has been seen on set and some of the set pieces have been repainted to the studio's liking. Odder still, journalists have been invited to report on the reshoots.

While Hood is still at the helm, one has to wonder how the reshoots are going to affect the lead actor, Hugh Jackman's ability to do his Oscar duties.

Links:
http://www.collider.com/entertainment/news/article.asp/aid/10508/tcid/1

(...) This all leads to the big question: What the hell kind of "Wolverine" movie are they making? Is it FUCKING EPIC like the trailer? Is it a softer, perhaps sillier comic book movie like "Fantastic 4"? Or is it true to the bad-ass character of the comics that fans have loved ever since he was introduced back in 1974? Fans want a dark, gritty "Wolverine" movie because that's what the character is. Those adamantium claws aren't for back scratches, they're for back impalements. If "X-Men Origins: Wolverine" is closer to the "PG" side of the tracks than the hard-"PG-13" side where fans want it, then the movie will open huge but when those other big summer releases come along, it will disappear like all off Fox's movies last year. (...)

http://www.collider.com/uploads/imageGallery/X_Men_Origins_Wolverine/x-men_origins_wolverine_movie_image_hugh_jackman__1_ .jpg

Can we just Call FOX the EA of movies now, please?

Osterbaum
01-16-2009, 06:31 PM
I hate Fox so much. Why do they have to exist!

Mirai Gen
01-16-2009, 06:34 PM
I have a hard time believing that they could show that trailer and not see that it at least interests the average comic book fan.

Cause really I doubt they care about making a great movie so much as getting people to watch it, and it seemed like it was headed exactly that direction.

TheSparrow
01-16-2009, 06:39 PM
I have a hard time believing that they could show that trailer and not see that it at least interests the average comic book fan.

Cause really I doubt they care about making a great movie so much as getting people to watch it, and it seemed like it was headed exactly that direction.

And Fox has decided, probably erroneously, that the best way to get the most money out of it, is to make it kid friendly, and probably a little silly.

The people in charge of this company have proven they don't know much about movies, as evidenced by their bizarre forced changes to movies like I.Robot, Australia, and Babylon A.D. against the directors wishes.

Mr.Bookworm
01-16-2009, 06:41 PM
http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/headdesk.jpg

Wow, great job Fox.

And by great job I mean fuck you.

I didn't think the trailer looked awesome, but I thought it looked way more interesting than I thought it would.

Meister
01-16-2009, 06:53 PM
Same request as in the Cowboy Bebop thread (http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showpost.php?p=885753&postcount=7).

Fifthfiend
01-16-2009, 06:56 PM
Oh yes please let Fox ruin the Wolverine movie. Oh you magnificent bastards do it, do it and I will kiss you places I have to get on my knees to reach.

Mirai Gen
01-16-2009, 07:13 PM
I honestly don't care either way about this movie but even from a movie studio's standpoint it is absurdly stupid.

Archbio
01-16-2009, 07:57 PM
Is it? I think that it's the only standpoint from which this isn't stupid. Okay, maybe from a gumby (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIlKiRPSNGA) standpoint it also isn't stupid. Then there's the anti-Wolverine fanatic standpoint.

It's just that Widening the potential audience is right up there in the studio executive book. Not being ridiculous is in the third tome of the book which hasn't been published yet, apparently.

TheSparrow
01-16-2009, 08:33 PM
Is it? I think that it's the only standpoint from which this isn't stupid. Okay, maybe from a gumby (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIlKiRPSNGA) standpoint it also isn't stupid. Then there's the anti-Wolverine fanatic standpoint.

It's just that Widening the potential audience is right up there in the studio executive book. Not being ridiculous is in the third tome of the book which hasn't been published yet, apparently.

Alienating a large and vocal fanbase isn't the best strategy for widening your potential audience. Also, making movies suck, isn't good for that either...for most recent example, see: Australia.

RickZarber
01-17-2009, 12:31 AM
Same request as in the Cowboy Bebop thread (http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showpost.php?p=885753&postcount=7).No offense man, but what exactly do you want from us? I don't see any amount of pretension in either of them... The Cowboy Bebop thread title was succinct and told me exactly what to expect in the thread. This one seems more eccentric and yet still contains the pertinent information. I'm just confused over what you're complaining about.

Krylo
01-17-2009, 12:35 AM
Meister is just a grumpy old woman.

It's best to ignore him her until he she starts banning people.

Bells
01-17-2009, 12:43 AM
It's best to ignore him until he starts banning people.

What? you want us to question the guy when he is banning people?

He stole mah clevah titlez :(

No, but really... i would easily associate this to the same guideline about "Motivational Posters" here. No biggy for me... i for one was getting pretty tired of everything being a "FAIL" nowadays... just did that due to some sort of "Can i haz brainztorm naow?" moment...

...and the fact that im getting personally angry at fox for fucking up so badly... i mean, look at what they jammed their hands on from 08 till now...

Mirai Gen
01-17-2009, 01:11 AM
I'm just confused over what you're complaining about.
Generally the presence and frequency at which the term "FAIL" is getting used when perfectly good English would otherwise be appropriate.

And for the record I'm totally on his side on this one.

Krylo
01-17-2009, 01:14 AM
Was fail in this thread title too?

Did he change both of them?

To those of us who didn't see the thread immediately it looks like he's complaining about entirely valid thread titles, and then no one knows what they are/are not supposed to do. Ergo: Rick's questioning of it. Rick had no way to know the thread titles were previously bad.

Also, Meister's still totally a grouchy old woman.

NonCon
01-17-2009, 01:20 AM
I'm not arguing that my thread title was lame and Meister was totally right to change it.

Krylo
01-17-2009, 01:24 AM
You don't have to NonCon.

I'm pretty sure that's self-evident.

Also, oh hey, look at that an actual topic is in this thread!

And it's about Wolverine! And his movie getting ruined!

Oh wait. His movie was already going to suck by virtue of having Jackman's Wolverine and Deadpool in the same movie, thus ensuring one of my favorite comic characters (read: the only one I give a shit about) is going to have his mouth so tightly glued to Wolverine's cock and/or ass that they should just call the damn thing a snuff porn and be done with it.

I'm not bitter at all about how every X-Men movie has been a Wolverine movie. Not at all.

Mirai Gen
01-17-2009, 01:25 AM
To those of us who didn't see the thread immediately it looks like he's complaining about entirely valid thread titles, and then no one knows what they are/are not supposed to do. Ergo: Rick's questioning of it. Rick had no way to know the thread titles were previously bad.
Ohh. My fault, sorry.

Mike McC
01-17-2009, 01:58 AM
BACK ON TOPIC!

Really, this movie had a very slim chance of actually being good in the first place.

I mean, Hugh Jackman. That about says it all there.

RickZarber
01-17-2009, 02:29 AM
Regarding thread titles: A-heh. Okay, things make much more sense now...

Regarding the movie: I was under the impression that these January reshoots were just extensive pick-ups. (Which, yes, generally consist of reshoots as well, but without the Evil Fox Conspiracy overtones.) The Fox rep in the Collider article even stated that they were to take advantage of specific weather conditions. So, even if they are meddling with the director's vision, I don't see where it says these additional days of photography are specifically them going around his back to significantly change the movie.

Meister
01-17-2009, 04:09 AM
I just keep forgetting you plebs can't see the secret mod forum where I quoted the original titles! Silly me.

Naw seriously, my bad, guys. And because it's my bad I'll even forgive the rampant off-topicness. Also because I really wouldn't have wanted all those posts as PMs in my inbox.

BACK ON TOPIC!
As you were.