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[Seil]

http://www.discshop.se/shop/img/omslag/front_large/2/68042.jpg

Trailer (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=HT5KsjuJX-s)
Trailer 2 (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=TSdBaK9S0Ow)
Trailer 3 (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=87UcLegNRyY)

So aside from a few occasional trailers on the TV, I haven't seen any advertising for this flick. What's the deal?

[Sporticus]

Good job, DC; giving the franchise to the one guy that Eisner hated.

[Bells]

You know you've been on NPF for too long when you see a thread title like this.. then you see that it was SEIL who made it and you go "Oh!... ok then.."

buuuuuuut... about the movie.

I dunno... i sleept during Sin City and Never watched 100% of 300 (nice movie for a first that huh.... u_u'' ) so im not sure if im ok with this as it seems very close like that... this "new style" of making movies seem to be a little too much Hit'n'miss

[Mike McC]

So aside from a few occasional trailers on the TV, I haven't seen any advertising for this flick. What's the deal?Because it seems everyone in TV and stuff is too busy fellating themselves over Bolt (for whatever unknown reason) right now to notice anything else.

[TDK]

I dunno... i sleept during Sin City and Never watched 100% of 300 (nice movie for a first that huh.... u_u'' ) so im not sure if im ok with this as it seems very close like that... this "new style" of making movies seem to be a little too much Hit'n'miss

You're a bad person.


Anyway, Bellsouth's hereticality (hereticism?) aside, The Spirit looks pretty fuckin' awesome from what I've seen. I read the graphic novel some years back.

[Bells]

That's because every time i see one of these trailers i remember "Sky Captain & the World of Tomorrow (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11Mide2KXow)". Im tainted that way!

[Masked Jedi]

When I first saw the first trailer, I was indecisive about this move. Some parts I liked, some I didn't. The second trailer made me psyched. There were elements that were clearly Miller's, but that's to be expected, and it seemed like it was gonna be true to the comics.

Then I saw the third trailer.

God damn you Frank Miller! The Spirit is not Batman! We get it! You're most acclaimed work was Batman! Now stop making ever single character you get your hands on Batman!

Seriously, here's just three of the many things that are assuring me of the epic fail this film will be:
1. The costume. The Spirit says that whole thing about needing a red tie. Okay, Frank, the costume design is important. Then why did you change the rest of his costume from blue, which is unique, to black, which is like every other character you've ever written?

2. I understand that this is Frank Miller and that the Whores thing is obvious. I don't need to harp on this, as I'm sure someone else will do it for me. However, I have to bitch about Sand Sarif. Frank takes the comic version of her and Colt's "romance", which is a sweet, innocent relationship of ten-year olds that is ultimately ended in tragedy, and turns it into a sexy teen sexfest with lots of teen sex that's hot and sexy. Seriously, what with Robin in TDKR and now this, I think Frank's got an unhealthy obsession with the sex lives of minors.

3. What the hell is up with the Octopus? Seriously Frank? "I'm gonna make El Spirito dead?" "She's got a thing for the bling?" I never thought I would ever say this, but I think that Samuel L. Jackson is going to ruin this film.

And the worst part is that I know I'm gonna end up seeing this movie. Goddamn fanboyism...

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[Fifthfiend]

Oh man so like I was at work where I don't have speakers on my computer. So as an experiment I go ahead and click on the first trailer above to watch it with the sound off? And it's like, whores whores whores guns whores scary black man whores. Hypothesis confirmed!

Also FYI to Jedi, Miller's Batman was never Batman. He was just another iteration of the same bullshit stock Miller "I GRIT MY TEETH AND PUNCH YOUR NUTS AND FEEL YOUR NUTBONES BREAK THROUGH MY GRITTED TEETH GRAR" avatar of The Badass Frank Miller Imagines Himself To Be.

[Masked Jedi]

Also FYI to Jedi, Miller's Batman was never Batman. He was just another iteration of the same bullshit stock Miller "I GRIT MY TEETH AND PUNCH YOUR NUTS AND FEEL YOUR NUTBONES BREAK THROUGH MY GRITTED TEETH GRAR" avatar of The Badass Frank Miller Imagines Himself To Be.

I'm aware of this, I just feel that every other character he's written has been based off of his version of Batman, so that's why I said what I did.

[Fifthfiend]

I guess what I'm saying is that my interpretation is more that every character he's written including Batman is based off the same bullshit Mary Sue, it's just that Batman is the first one they let him write.

[Mirai Gen]

I dunno, I never got that feeling of Mary-Sue ism from Year One which I happen to like quite a bit. He didn't do the insistent repetition of phrases that he's so incredibly infamous for (Infamous as the bad thing, not as the more-than-famous thing).

Regardless, Spirit is supposed to be a hell of a lot more lighthearted than this. Pass, thanks, I'd rather see Eisner's Spirit.

[POS Industries]

Yeah, I think the thing with Sin City being considered good is that, visually speaking, it is quite amazing to watch. All of this, of course, is a credit to Robert Rodriguez's ability to make the most out of CGI. However, when you get past Rodriguez's the feast for the eyes, you're left with one absolutely terribly-written movie.

Which is why I was only able to sit through it the one time because on subsequent viewings I actually bothered to think about story and characters and good lord was it lousy. I assumed 300 was much of the same and didn't bother with it, and I will do the same with The Goddamn Spirit.

[Magus]

Are the original Spirit comics filled with terrible one-liners like this movie apparently is? Jackson is the worst culprit. "I'm going to kill El Spirito" "She's got a thing for the bling", etc. Stuff like that should've been edited out of the script close to day one.

[The SSB Intern]

Are the original Spirit comics filled with terrible one-liners like this movie apparently is?
I feel like crying.

Also: Needs more Ebony.

[Premonitions]

Also: Needs more Ebony.
No. nothing does. EVER

[Masked Jedi]

Life needs more Ebony.

Seriously, that kid was more badass than any of you will ever be.

[Premonitions]

obviously there's a new Spirit I don't know about, because nothing needs more of this (http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm180/thebat-/Ebony.jpg)

[POS Industries]

obviously there's a new Spirit I don't know about, because nothing needs more of this (http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm180/thebat-/Ebony.jpg)
The hell?

I mean, darky iconography is bad enough but that kid just looks like he's suffering from some sort of horrible allergic reaction.

[Masked Jedi]

He actually got a lot less racist and a lot more awesome as time went on.

[Magus]

That comic strip was so outrageously over-the-top in its racism beyond even most other comics from that period I've seen one could only hope, for one's own sanity, that they were somehow commenting on racist stereotypes in comics in a satirical fashion. But I'm sure they were purposefully being racist and it just blows my mind.

I suppose one could attempt to salvage the character, but with that sort of portrayal in the earlier comics you've be better off just creating a different character who fulfills the same capacity as driver without the horrific racist stereotyping. I mean even the name Ebony White is supposed to be insultingly ironic when coupled with that portrayal.

[Runswithnopants]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm going through the Shortpacked! archives for the first time, and I came across this (http://www.shortpacked.com/d/20060207.html).

Is that where the thread title came from?

[Premonitions]

No, this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Miller_(comics)) is where it comes from

[Magus]

It is based on a work of satire based on the truth, yes. Frank Miller's obsession with making all female characters into prostitutes knows no real bounds. From Batman: Year One (Catwoman is a prostitute), to Sin City, etc., women leads are prostitutes. The only exception might be Leonidas' wife in 300, since she only had sex with what's-his-face out of an act of desperation, or something like that. I'm not even sure if she was in the original comic, though. That might have been a total Frank Miller man-feast (he is also fond of that).

[Jagos]

She was there. Miller is particular about not allowing what happened to Robocop, happen to his other works. She did pretty much the exact same thing, if I remember.

obviously there's a new Spirit I don't know about, because nothing needs more of this (http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm180/thebat-/Ebony.jpg)

... Serious Whiskey Tango Foxtrot moment here...

[Derek]

I suppose one could attempt to salvage the character, but with that sort of portrayal in the earlier comics you've be better off just creating a different character who fulfills the same capacity as driver without the horrific racist stereotyping.

Eventually The Spirit did get another sidekick named Sammy.

I like the visuals of the movie. Frank Miller's good at framing a shot. I thought the one where you see a shadowed sillohuette of The Spirit punching bad guys was clever. But that dialouge.

Lord.