Fuck Scrappy

[Bob the Mercenary]

I was watching a channel my dad gets that replays old cartoons and Scooby came on, it was one of the ones where Scrappy was playing comedy relief and seemed to be talking for Scooby.

Scrappy ruined the Scooby franchise. True/False

[Hawk]

Yes. Yes he did. The little shit was the most annoying sidekick comedy character ever created, well, until Jar Jar Binks came along at least. Even as a kid I hated the little bastard, with his screechy voice and the utter crap that spewed from his mouth.

So yeah, Fuck Scrappy!

[Mr.Bookworm]

True. I wanted that miserable little shit to die since I saw him, and I couldn't watch Scooby Doo anymore, except for when he wasn't around.

[Fifthfiend]

I liked Scrappy! He was silly and funny and made me laugh.

[Regulus Tera]

I must side with Fifth in here. In fact, when I was a kid most of the original Scooby Doo episodes bored me to death. The pacing was just atrocious. At least Scrappy made things funny.

[Ugainius]

I'm going to go with "Changed the show slightly, no real difference in quality"

I mean I think I can see why you wouldn't like him but he didn't really ditract from the show.

[Donomni]

I don't think I'll ever truly understand the hate for Scrappy.

I mean, I know why, but it seems it's just exaggerated a fuckton.

[NonCon]

I always wondered why they didn't ditch him. He made solving mysteries harder and he always nearly got them caught. He never helped. I don't like Scrappy because I could never understand why they did.

[Kaneda]

Hanna-Barbera restructured the show around Scrappy in 1980. The original format of four teenagers and their dog(s) solving supernatural mysteries for a half-hour was eschewed for simpler, more comedic adventures which involved real supernatural villains

I've seen maybe two episodes of Scooby-Doo ever and this makes me rage anyway.

[Archbio]

I've seen maybe two episodes of Scooby-Doo ever and this makes me rage anyway.

Maybe if you'd seen ten episodes of Scooby-Doo you'd see the value in changing the formula just a little bit.

But yeah, changing the very premise and tone of the show like that was just a sort of dumbing down.

[Preturbed]

But yeah, changing the very premise and tone of the show like that was just a sort of dumbing down.
Dumbing down? Scooby Doo? It would take a rock, a literal rock, to think Scooby Doo was intellectual enough to dumb down before Scrappy.

I thought the little guy made the show worth watching, instead of the following (Spoilers ahead!):

Oh my god, spooky! Lets find out whats going on here, gang! lets split up! -at this point anyone whose name starts with S will inevitably bungle or bumble, often both- We caught him! -Velma removes a mask, all gasp- It was X all along!

In fact, anything to break the monotony of that show actually made it enjoyable.

[Archbio]

There was two sentences in my previous post. One was about how the show had been dumbed down in a specific way. It was. The other sentence was about how dreadfully, eye-stabbingly formulaic the show originally was. That they were repeating the same plot over and over again doesn't make the plot itself specially dumb. Emphasis was still on how ceasing to repeat the formula wasn't exactly a big loss.

Neither of the sentences were about how the show was ruined by Scrappy-Doo.

...did you just call me a rock?

[Mesden]

No, you're a Rock Lobster!

[Archbio]

HERE COMES A BIKINI WHALE!

[Fifthfiend]

Oh man I actually saw like, one episode of the new-model Scooby-Doo. It was like, Scrappy, Scooby, Shaggy and Daphne and I don't know where they disappeared Velma and Fred to and yeah, all of a sudden they're chasing actual for-real ghosts for some reason? It was pretty terrible, and yeah we're talking terrible by the standards of Scooby-Doo.

[greed]

Isn't the newest model Scooby Doo, Scooby and Shaggy fighting some bizarre German mad scientist for Scooby snacks after Shaggy got a huge inheritance from his uncle or something? Cause I've seen a few episodes of that one and it's not bad. Kind of like Venture Bros for kids really.

[R|Я]

I don't think I'll ever truly understand the hate for Scrappy.

I mean, I know why, but it seems it's just exaggerated a fuckton. Mostly this, although I have to admit there are not enough characters with that sort of attitude on TV anymore. And him putting his little paws up to fight always made me smile. :)

[Hawk]

I don't think I'll ever truly understand the hate for Scrappy.

I mean, I know why, but it seems it's just exaggerated a fuckton

No, I'm pretty sure I genuinely hate the fucker.

[Krylo]

Just when I was starting to like you people again, I find out some of you actually liked Scrappy?


...Is it like your life's mission to just disappoint me at every turn, because, really, you're succeeding. You are succeeding so hard.

Adding Scrappy to Scooby Doo took an, admittedly, formulaic show which, for the time, was of average or greater quality, and turned it into a ridiculous stupid gag fest.

Really, say what you want about Scooby Doo being formulaic and monotonous, but at least it wasn't goddamned STUPID before Scrappy.

I guess, the easiest way to sum up my feelings on Scooby/Scrappy is with something Fifth said about video game writing: the problem with videogame stories Scrappy is I don't necessarily care so much one way or the other what extent there's a story an alteration or destruction of the formula, so much as whatever extent that it is there, listenting to watching it doesn't feel like being fucked in my bloody eyes AND ears by someone's salt-covered dick.

[Mr.Bookworm]

No, I'm pretty sure I genuinely hate the fucker.

I pretty much agree with Krylo and Hawk. It had small flaws, but at least it was enjoyable for a while.

Then Scrappy came along and was just a little douchey whining fucker, ruining any enjoyment I once had of the show.

[Youwantmilliondollar?!]

I never really liked Scooby Doo.

Scrappy was like adding mustard to a melted ice cream cone.

[Satan's Onion]

As far as I can tell, the thing about Scrappy is, as far as I can remember, his character can essentially be boiled down to one line: "Lemme at 'em, lemme at 'em!" (I feel that "Puppy power!" was just the vomit topping on the shit sundae.) No matter the situation, no matter the odds, he just wanted to beat shit up. He has even less of a character than just about any of the regular cast--and the other characters on the show are pretty damned one-dimensional.

I'm a little more torn about The 13 Ghosts of Scooby-Doo. On the one hand, it still has Scrappy, and I don't think Flim-Flam added much of anything; on the other, any character voiced by Vincent Price is all right with me.

[Mac]

As far as I can tell, the thing about Scrappy is, as far as I can remember, his character can essentially be boiled down to one line: "Lemme at 'em, lemme at 'em!" (I feel that "Puppy power!" was just the vomit topping on the shit sundae.) No matter the situation, no matter the odds, he just wanted to beat shit up. He has even less of a character than just about any of the regular cast--and the other characters on the show are pretty damned one-dimensional.

I agree with you so much. Anytime he came on screen with his paws up trying to hurt people or screaming puppy power, I cringed and died a bit inside.

[Mike McC]

Fact: Scrappy is horrible.

Fact: TVTropes is against those of you who think he isn't horrible (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheScrappy).

[Donomni]

I think the problem for me is that I haven't seen enough Scooby-Doo to really see a difference between Scrappy and non-Scrappy shows.

I dunno, maybe I just don't like the oldest Scooby shows that much.

I mean, I did routinely watch A Pup Named Scooby Doo way back when.

...and now the song is stuck in my head.

Fuck you, Scrappy. You gave me a reason to hate.

And 13 Ghosts was the shit. No scrapping puppies or mexicans could possible ruin that show.

[PyrosNine]

13 Ghosts confused me. I wanted to watch Scooby Doo be cowardly and solve a mystery in a new place, not follow a disjunct plot that I couldn't keep up with in Scooby doo random marathons.

Scrappy being the first movie's villain was the best thing EVER. EVER.

I was more fond of Scooby Dum, to be honest.

[Fifthfiend]

TVTropes is against those of you who think he isn't horrible (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheScrappy).

Considering some of the things TVTropes likes, I'm less than astonishingly hurt by that.

[Regulus Tera]

As far as I can tell, the thing about Scrappy is, as far as I can remember, his character can essentially be boiled down to one line: "Lemme at 'em, lemme at 'em!" (I feel that "Puppy power!" was just the vomit topping on the shit sundae.) No matter the situation, no matter the odds, he just wanted to beat shit up. He has even less of a character than just about any of the regular cast--and the other characters on the show are pretty damned one-dimensional.

I think that's what was called back then as "the 'tude".

It was a precious commodity of the eighties and nineties that thankfully didn't carry on to the naughties.

And 13 Ghosts was the shit. No scrapping puppies or mexicans could possible ruin that show.

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[Mesden]

Even as a little kid, neither me nor my brothers could ever even slightly enjoy scooby doo. It was so absolutely retarded. I haven't watched an episode in like 15 years, so if I thought it was straight up dumb when I was 7, who knows what I'd think of it now.





I'd probably like it more because I could make fun of fred and daphne stuff and the enormous amounts of implied drug use but I bet it and scrappy doo are still really stupid.

[Donomni]

I meant the Pablo kid.

I think he was Mexican or Spanish, or something.

No offense, obviously, but I'm not really sure.

[Invisible Queen]

When I think about it, Scrappy may have been the first thing I ever hated. Imagine that, I'm five Goddamned years old and Scooby Doo is slightly embarrassing as it is, and I find out for the first time that there is such a thing an obnoxious little prick who I want to strangle until he stops yelling with his annoying freaking voice and taking up so much screentime. Scrappy teaches me hate.

[Funka Genocide]

I don't hate Scrappy, inasmuch as I can't really hate the poor sap on the german frontline that just wanted to go home and see his wife and kids. He wasn't a nazi, he probably wasn't terribly bigoted, he was just some dude doing what his country told him to do.

That's what scrappy was, a one dimensional archetype ushered onto the stage bu those nazi fucks that wanted to squeeze a few more pennies from a dead franchise. They should have let Scooby die a long time ago...

necromantic, nazi fucks.

[Mike McC]

I meant the Pablo kid.

I think he was Mexican or Spanish, or something.

No offense, obviously, but I'm not really sure.His name was Flim-Flam, and yes he was Mexican.

[Donomni]

Wow, I really have not watched that in awhile. Ugh. ._.

[Aerozord]

I dont view scrappy in and of himself all that important. Mostly because he was basically a superflous character with no real depth and is so cliche and one dimensional his very existance in a series is pointless.

This is from memory but I think this judges most scooby-doo
Arnie: Hey I disagree I liked Scooby-Doo
Hsu: Really? And what exactly did you like, did you find the plot interesting? did you think the characters were deep? or did you like it because you were a kid, and it was a cartoon?
Thats from memory, but you get the idea

Mystery doesn't work well for a TV show. If you seen it once you have no desire to see it again.

13 Ghosts is my favorite as it has an over arching plot to it and said plot actually follows logic.

Look at your typical episode of the original series. Nine times out of ten the "criminal" never really does anything illegal except perhaps tresspassing and even then thats rare. There is no law that says you cant put on a rubber mask and scare people. Atleast in the later series they learn to be skeptical that the person is a ghost. I dont see why they didn't just bring a gun and shoot the guy though.

[Fiye]

Scooby-Doo's old shows ran like this.

The gang enjoys themselves somewhere doing something.

Something spooky happens that disrupts said fun.

Gang decides to search for clues to whoever did it.

After finding some clues they split up to try and find more clues. Usually Fred + Daph and Shaggy + Scooby. Velda is usually tossed between groups, but is mostly stuck with Fred and Daph.

-Possible chase scene A-

A trap is set up to catch said baddie.

-If chase scene A does not occur, chase scene B occurs. In which the trap is fubared by scooby or shaggy.-

Bad guy gets caught, mask is revealed (And his half-believable tricks) and shown.

Everyone enjoys themselves again.

Also, Velda usually losses her glasses somepart in the middle.

It was enough to get me by back when Cartoon Network mostly showed reruns of Tom and Jerry, Scooby-Doo, and other various old shows. This was back when Johnny Bravo, Cow and Chicken, and Dexter's Laborator were shown on Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday respectively. With new episodes of all three on Cartoon Fridays.

Also, Scrappy is a character aimed at younger (I mean younger) audiences who can stand annoying crap.