HULK SMASH!

[TDK]

I just got back from seeing the Hulk.

It was raining so hard the movie cut out twice.

It was FUCKIN' AWESOME. At least as good as Iron Man.

Things that stick out in my mind:

"You're making me...hungry. You wouldn't like me when I'm...hungry." Reminded me of that one episode of Dexter's Lab. Anyone else know what I'm talking about?

"HULK...SMASH!" Best moment in the whole movie.

The guy that would become Abomination. He was fucking awesome when he was a normal sized little crazy guy, flipping around and holding his own against the motherfucking HULK. Then how he recovers and shit. AWESOME.

The Hulk was toned down. Seemed sorta weaker, not able to jump as high. Obviously smaller. More...proportioned.

[Aerozord]

Well one thing about the Hulk is that his power isn't consistant. He is as strong as he is angry, which from a writers perspective means, he is as strong as the story needs him to be.

[Solid Snake]

I'll get shot for saying this, but I really didn't think it was nearly as good as Iron Man.

Then again, I'm not really sure if any movie this summer will approach Iron Man.

That being said, Edward Norton was still a better Bruce Banner than that other guy. (Eric Bana)
And it's always nice to see Liv Tyler.

[TDK]

*shoots snake*

*in the face*

Well one thing about the Hulk is that his power isn't consistant. He is as strong as he is angry, which from a writers perspective means, he is as strong as the story needs him to be.
Yeah, I guess there were much more huge large scale battles with tanks and stuff firing at him in the last movie. So it only makes sense he would be weaker here, when honestly not too much stuff is going on, aside from the Abomination.

[Flarecobra]

Iron Man was much better. Though seeing as I just watched the first one for the first time three days ago....well...I might just be a bit biasd. I guess I didn't suspend reality well enough when I watched it...

And yea for bootlegs!

[Kaneda]

It was actually good? The trailers made me think not even Edward Norton and Tim Roth could save it.

[Julford Hajime]

What trailers were you watching? The trailers I saw actually gave me some faith in the movie's chances of being good.

I still haven't gotten around to seeing it, but I definately will at some point within the next few weeks... Hopefully.

[Rokrin]

I watched it and thought it was really good. Not as good as Iron Man, but it was close.

I think the only thing that irked me was the lack of scene-after-the-credits, which is something Marvel tends to do with their films. I was hoping for another scene glimpsing towards the Avengers movie, like they had after the credits in Ironman.

[Mirai Gen]

I never really liked Hulk or any of his incarnations, so I'll probably skip this one. Might see it eventually just cause I like Norton.

[Doc ock rokc]

I like how they are starting to link the marvel movies together. making the universe together to the point where we can watch a group of super heroes fight a big villain...
i just hope they don't do the movies in chronological order. like i know hulk happens after ironman but maybe its also after IM2 or maybe captain America has been found and is thawing during the hulk...meh whatever happens i just hope they dont ruin this nice trend they have going.

[EVILNess]

The after the credits bit made me cry with joy.

[Rokrin]

The after the credits bit made me cry with joy.

I'm hoping you're talking about the one from Iron Man. Because if that's not what you're talking about, I will reach down my throat and pull out my colon.

Mostly because it means I missed it. :shifty:

[I_Like_Swordchucks]

Did anybody notice that the name of on the liquid nitrogen tank that General Ross got the super soldier formula that he gave the dude was the name of the guy that made the serum that Captain America took? Thats why the little guy was so fast and stuff... he was Captain America-ized.

Also, they overdid the Hulk in the last movie. At one point he was 15 feet tall. This movie kept his proportion and size far more in keeping with the comics, though I would tend to think he was just as strong. The Abomination is technically stronger than the Hulk in his calm state, but his power doesn't grow with anger.

Other sequel hints:

Betty Ross's boyfriend -> Doc Samson. The weird scientist guy who helped, and then made the abomination -> Leader.

[Bells]

all that i can say is that they are doing a pretty job on setting up an Avengers movie.

They managed to not fuck up the Hulk and Ironman (mostly with a nice script and excelent casting) now they only need to not fuck up Thor and Captain america

[Rokrin]

They managed to not fuck up the Hulk and Ironman (mostly with a nice script and excelent casting) now they only need to not fuck up Thor and Captain america

I have to say that the casting in both of these movies made them for me, I think. Edward Norton does a brilliant job as Bruce Banner, and there can be no Iron Man beyond Robert Downey Jr.

Although I'm skeptical on Samuel L. Jackson as Nick Fury.

[Mirai Gen]

It worked in Ultimates.

[TDK]

Samuel L. Jackson as Nick Fury

I thought everyone knew this by now. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultimate_Nick_Fury)

Ultimate Nick Fury is a reinterpretation of the classic Marvel character Nick Fury. One of the most notable differences between the two is the fact that Classic Fury is a Caucasian colonel with brown hair, while Ultimate Fury is a bald African-American general, and was in fact specifically tailored after actor Samuel L. Jackson with his permission.

Emphasis mine.

[Rokrin]

I thought everyone knew this by now. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultimate_Nick_Fury)



Emphasis mine.

I'm aware of that, but I'm not an Ultimate line follower. I think he looks the part fine, but....I dunno. For some reason I think I'll have a hard time being able to focus on Nick Fury rather than Sam.

[Nique]

I really am not sure why everyone hated the Ang Lee film so much. But, I will say this one looks much better. I am hoping to see it soon but we're saving our money to see The Dark Knight, so... no spoilers!

[Masked Jedi]

Did anybody notice that the name of on the liquid nitrogen tank that General Ross got the super soldier formula that he gave the dude was the name of the guy that made the serum that Captain America took? Thats why the little guy was so fast and stuff... he was Captain America-ized.

Also, they overdid the Hulk in the last movie. At one point he was 15 feet tall. This movie kept his proportion and size far more in keeping with the comics, though I would tend to think he was just as strong. The Abomination is technically stronger than the Hulk in his calm state, but his power doesn't grow with anger.

Other sequel hints:

Betty Ross's boyfriend -> Doc Samson. The weird scientist guy who helped, and then made the abomination -> Leader.

I got all that. Made me psyched.

I liked it. Not as much as Iron Man or Speed Racer, but it was certainly better than Indy 4 or Spidey 3.

[Seil]

I really am not sure why everyone hated the Ang Lee film so much.

Mirai and I both posted a BTC comic a bit ago, but I'll break down Ang Lee's flick:

Here's a picture of the Hulk. Then the screen splits in half, and there's a picture of the Hulk and Jennifer Conelly. Then the screen splits into thirds and three's a picture of the Hulk, Jennifer, and the military. Then the screen splits into fourths, and there's a picture of the Hulk, Jennifer, The Army, and more army.

And it keeps on going. Forever. So you have no idea what to focus on because there's eight things on the screen at a time. Or at least, that's what I got from it.

[Smarty McBarrelpants]

Mirai and I both posted a BTC comic a bit ago, but I'll break down Ang Lee's flick:

Here's a picture of the Hulk. Then the screen splits in half, and there's a picture of the Hulk and Jennifer Conelly. Then the screen splits into thirds and three's a picture of the Hulk, Jennifer, and the military. Then the screen splits into fourths, and there's a picture of the Hulk, Jennifer, The Army, and more army.

And it keeps on going. Forever. So you have no idea what to focus on because there's eight things on the screen at a time. Or at least, that's what I got from it.

But you see that's why I liked it so much. Instead of producing the same old superhero flick at least he experimented and tried something different. It flopped in a few places but it worked on the whole and I qute enjoyed it.
I found it far more engaging than your standard flick like Spiderman or the new batman movies. Edit: Before everyone's like Batman Begins is awesome! (which it wasn't!) these were chosen pretty much at random to reflect standard superhero movies, albeit better than your average one though in the same vein.

[Doc ock rokc]

I found it far more engaging than your standard flick like Spiderman or the new batman movies. Edit: Before everyone's like Batman Begins is awesome! (which it wasn't!) these were chosen pretty much at random to reflect standard superhero movies, albeit better than your average one though in the same vein.

ok let me state this...I hated the spiderman 3 in some parts (aka the last second venom storyline addon) but the sand man parts where awesome

also the main thing i liked about the batman movie is the part where they show the henchman's pov of the batman's attack the rest of it was much like that of iron man except that every villein got more than 7 min of screen time

[Aerozord]

My issue was never that, my issue was the lack of HULK SMASH PLOT HEAVY MOVIE. Its not that it was horrible, just that it was dull. And the main villian, seems like it was just thrown in there. I blame writing myself.

I liked the multi-panel thing. Then again I can read and hold a conversation at the same time, so probably not the best person to judge

[Kroze Gamegod]

It sucks that they cut out the Captain America cameo but from what we have heard, they plan on releasing that scene on the internet within the next few weeks...
I can't believe they cut out 70 minutes during editing... thats kinda insane.

All in all, it was WAY better than the first Ang Lee movie even if half of it was a trailer for the Avengers movie...

[Smarty McBarrelpants]

And the main villian, seems like it was just thrown in there. I blame writing myself.


I blame comic fanboys. There would have been a huge outcry without a villian in the movie. It would have worked so much better without one.
Though the writing wasn't great either. But Hulk is very much a Jekyll/Hyde kind of story and the Ang Lee movie kind of understood this and tried to present it in that way but then also threw in all the random villain at the end (can't even remember who it was, played by Nick Nolte I think) to satisfy a comic book story.

[TDK]

random villain at the end (can't even remember who it was, played by Nick Nolte I think)

Wasn't it Bruce's dad? And he could like, absorb energy or something?

[Bells]

Don go out tossing stones at me now... but i got a feeling:

This Hulk movie was in NY
All Marvel movies (except X-men, thank the lord) are in the same universe now.
There was no Spiderman there, but that's ok.

Now, if they manage to Bring Tobey for a Spidey cameo on the Avengers movie, it would not be the worst thing ever...

Just because i would REALLY like to see dialogue between Bruce, Tony and Peter

Also, point to note: Loved how the portrait Rio de Janeiro on the movie, it was done in a VERY tastefull way! =P

[Loyal]

ok let me state this...I hated the spiderman 3 in some parts (aka the last second venom storyline addon) but the sand man parts where awesomeI maintain that Spiderman 3 was worth watching just to see Harry get clothslined by various parts of the environment (half a dozen times), and watch Spidey go all emo and try to act cool doing it. XD

That said, I rather enjoyed the Hulk. I never saw the previous movie, so I didn't have any expectations either way. And I liked the humor. It blended in well and made sense with the setting. The jokes did not feel like they were just thrown in there.

[Smarty McBarrelpants]

I found this review amusing: http://film.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/Critic_Review/Guardian_review/0,,2285042,00.html

[Kerensky287]

I liked the movie, but it seemed a little bit... unintelligent for me. Kind of like, "Bruce Banner is on the run again. HULK SMASH. Oh! His girlfriend! But the Hulk has no time for a girlfriend and therefore must smash again." There seemed to be a bit of a lack of dialogue.

That said, the action was awesome. Like, when he stabbed that one guy with his own vertebra. Or the timing of the action after the line, "Is that all you got?"

Am I the only one who got a huge Kefka vibe from Dr Stearn?

[RickZarber]

I found this review amusing: http://film.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/Critic_Review/Guardian_review/0,,2285042,00.html
That would have been better if he'd ended it with "Critic SMASH lousy movie!"
It sucks that they cut out the Captain America cameo but from what we have heard, they plan on releasing that scene on the internet within the next few weeks...
I can't believe they cut out 70 minutes during editing... thats kinda insane.Yeah, I dunno if I'd really want to see another hour plus of this movie. It kinda seemed the right length to me.

Also, interesting tidbit on the Cap scene: the producer denies they shot it! I'll try to cite that, if I can find where I read it. EDIT, ah, here we go: LINK (http://www.latinoreview.com/news/exclusive-gale-anne-hurd-talks-hulk-no-captain-america-and-the-punisher-4835). An interesting interview in there, too. Worth reading.

[Nique]

Just saw it last night. I was impressed. Almost as entertaining as Iron Man, and maybe 1/2 to 3/4 as good.

No reviews so far have really been wrong/right.... I think the strength in this movie was good casting, because the writing wasn't doing a lot to hold things up. But Ed Norton was solid. Every inch of the way through this I could see what he was adding that the writers couldn't. Liv Tyler is so expressive - It's just pleasant to see her in a film. A far better Betty Ross than Jennifer 'same character in every movie' Connelly was.

All the Super-Solider exposition was just good old geeky fun. I totally saw Captain America inspired moves when the Emil guy goes one-on-one with The Hulk. I felt embarrassed to be the only one in the theatre laughing out loud when he stands up to Hulk and begs him to power-kick him in the chest... Because Hulk is more than happy to oblige.

I mean, I share some of the opinions Brian was expressing in todays post. Was the Ang Lee film good? Well, honestly yes. It was better written than the current film and it gave an appropriate modern twist on our beloved pseudo science. The CG was just as good as the new film... If there were weird elements too it, they weren't weird in themselves. Some things were just misplaced in a 'Hulk' story. (Becuase I didn't really think Nick Nolte's role or any weird daddy issues were a part of Bruce Banner's history).

But I wouldn't say the first was better. This one was more entertaining. It fits the 'feel' of the new Marvel Movie universe much better. It is truer in many ways to the Hulk story as I am familiar with it. And better acted, by miles.

[Fifthfiend]

Jennifer 'same character in every movie' Connelly

I... YOU... !!!

...yeah.

:(

[BitVyper]

I liked the movie, but it seemed a little bit... unintelligent for me. Kind of like, "Bruce Banner is on the run again. HULK SMASH. Oh! His girlfriend! But the Hulk has no time for a girlfriend and therefore must smash again."

See, that's exactly what made this one better than the Ang Lee one. It remembered to be a Hulk movie.

Also: The nods to the live action Hulk tv show were awesome.

[Toast]

Just saw this yesterday. It was good, but not as good as Iron Man. Liv Tyler was really kind of mediocre, I had a hard time believing she was a professor. Her hair really bothered me too, she should have put it up more often. Her acting seemed, I'm not sure how exactly to put it, but bland. Edward Norton and William Hurt, on the other hand, were both phenomenal. The action sequences were also top notch. Although was it just me or did the Hulk change size a couple times?

[Smarty McBarrelpants]

See, that's exactly what made this one better than the Ang Lee one. It remembered to be a Hulk movie.

Also: The nods to the live action Hulk tv show were awesome.

Hang on. Since when have Hulk comics been all about mindless smashing?
There is a difference between the Hulk as a character and as a story.
I can't tell you anything about modern hulk, or pretty much that much at all about old hulk, but from the few I've read there was at least some dips into the idea of dystopic ideas of man and society/individual etc which came out more in Ang Lee version.

Actually, seeing the Hulk beat stuff up is pretty sweet. That may be what the Hulk comics are actually about. Someone who reads more can answer me.

[Premonitions]

I felt embarrassed to be the only one in the theatre laughing out loud when he stands up to Hulk and begs him to power-kick him in the chest... Because Hulk is more than happy to oblige.when I saw that scene, I could'nt think of anything else but the scene in the parking lot from the boondocks season two, return of stinkmeaner "YEAH NYUGHA NOW YOU GOT KICKED IN YO CHEST!"

[Nique]

I... YOU... !!!

There is this group of... personalities that are not unpleasant to watch in a film. But to call what they do 'Acting' is just kind of a misnomer. I think Ocean's 11 has most of these people in it.


Actually, seeing the Hulk beat stuff up is pretty sweet. That may be what the Hulk comics are actually about. Someone who reads more can answer me.

I'm not a expert on Hulk lore, but from what I can tell -A lot of stuff is 'Feel sorry for Hulk, he just wants a friend/ to be left alone/ good lovin' etc.' which essentially becomes a Frankenstein story (In which Dr. Banner is Dr. Frankenstein and The Hulk is his monster). So, there is awesome fights with Wolverine, but it's shadowed by the fact that the Hulk doesn't know why people want to hurt him. So there's some intricate details there that are explored. Sometimes it is more the clashing of the two personalities that takes the fore, thereby becoming an image of Dr. Jekell and Mr. Hyde.

The Hulk isn't quite as mindless as he appears sometimes. Theres interesting conflict going on there between the Hulk's presence vs. Banners, or the Hulk's apparent mindlessness vs his obvious good nature. Which, yeah can get lost in the moment of him tearing a police card asunder and using it as boxing gloves.

[Dørmatte]

I didn't have a chance to watch the movie before yesterday, and my fellow talk-movies-with-nerd is off somewhere in England, so I hope this doesn't constitute thread necromancy.

Anyway, as I said, I just watched the movie, and I left feeling sorta bored. The most exciting moment for me in the entire movie was when Stark came up to Ross at the end and talked to him about his 'unusual problem'.

I don't know, the plot didn't really make sense to me. If Ross had been sensible and dealt with Banner in a reasonable fashion the Hulk would be a non-issue, especially considering how he managed to temporarily 'cure' himself in a makeshift student lab. Or he could've gone the more deceptive route and pretended to have friendly intentions and then drug and capture him. I guess we can forgive his total lack of reasonability, he's Thunderbolt Ross after all. But why waste years and hundreds of millions of dollars in men and equipment on hunting Banner? Especially after they should've realized that he's imprevious to all conventional weaponry, and in fact not interested in fighting at all - the only reason he turns into the Hulk is because he's afraid they'll 'dissect' him if he gets captured.

I wasn't able to feel with Hulk or Banner as characters that I could care about at all. I mean, The Hulk is basically invincible. This may have something to do with me reading the entire "World War Hulk" arch this week, but I could hardly get excited in any scene where he appeared. Only the one where he looked about to be defeated by the sonic cannons was able to engage on the same level as I did while watching Iron Man, but that dropped off when he after a short pause shrugged even that attack away like it was nothing.

The whole Millitary Vs. Hulk set-up feels sorta like watching a little kid try to beat up an adult. You know the kid doesn't stand a chance and the only reason it isn't destroyed instantly is because it isn't a real threat. It would've been more fun if we got the feeling that the millitary posed an actual threat to Hulk, and maybe even had them overpower the Hulk - or atelast would've been able to overpower him if Stark Enterprise gadget #7856 didn't malfunction, or some other plot device that wasn't HULK GROW STRONGER - Banner surviving because they didn't want to kill him in human form. What they looked like in the movie was just these idiots who ran around and did nothing but force him to turn into the Hulk and go on a rampage, preventing him from curing himself, doing nothing but prepetuate their own problems.

Atelast in the comics (or those I've read) Banner turns into the Hulk on a pretty regular basis (and starts, y'know rampaging, and going on rampages and... rampaging) and they have a reason for trying to put him down other than 'plot'. Their motivation is "The Hulk is too dangerous so it must be destroyed", while in the movie the motivation just seemed to be "durr, plot needs fighting, durr, attack the hulk".

The Banner was also way too perfect. I mean, he had the Hulk transformation under damn good control, and the only reason he hadn't cured himself ages ago was because the army was constantly on his tail, purposefully disrupting his attempts and he STILL ALMOST PULLED IT OFF in the end. He even eludes a whole team of well-trained professional abducters all on his own, and nearly gets away up to the point where he bumps into those three idiots and gets into a fight with them. Amusing how they were able to keep up with him better than the soldiers were? Atelast if Banner himself was a loose cannon I could understand why they'd want to get him for reasons other than 'plot'.

Why did they need him, anyway, when they had the serum they used on Abomination? It seemed to work just fine, though we didn't get time to witness any long-term side-effects.

Well, that's off my chest then.

Not to say the movie was bad, I just tend to focus on more negative aspects of my experiences. Every scene, individually, was great. The acting was good, the special effects awesome (I don't understand comments about how his head was supposed to be too small), and the fights of the better kind. It's just the movie as a whole that was pretty boring and the plot greatly lacking in sense. I realize it's a super-hero movie, but that shouldn't give a lisence to make evey character compeltely one-dimensional.