Terrible moments in Great movies

[Smarty McBarrelpants]

So this was a discussion we were having today. Here some that came up:
A) "In Latin Jehovah with an I" from Last Crusade. Sigh. 5 minutes of research would have solved that one. For those not in the know Jehovah is only spelt with an I in Latin if J hasn't been invented yet. There was a J on the board and so it should have been spelt with a J. Then again J wasn't invented till the 1500s so there shouldn't have been a J on the board. Either way its wrong.
B) Everything between Optimus' death and the Unicron fight in the real transformer movie. So pretty much the whole movie. But the rest is totally awesome.

C) The robot in Rocky 4 (for those who say Rocky 4 is terrible, fuck you. Real men like Rocky 4). All i have to say is WTF?!?

[POS Industries]

C) The robot in Rocky 4
Oh come on, Stallone's acting isn't that bad!

[Doc ock rokc]

the last half of the newest Indiana Jones movie or more accurately the point when mud swings in the trees and everything after that!

[Magus]

Haha, my sister thought it was Mud as well! It is Mutt, but Mud is pretty damn funny...and yes the part where he swings was horrible. And the inclusion of cute prairie dogs and monkeys was probably George Lucas' idea.

No Country For Old Men: If you're a film maker, don't ever ever ever EVER kill the main character off-screen. Seriously, it's a movie. That might work for a book but doing it in a movie is...not what you do in a movie. Oh, and seriously, Lewellyn's mother (or maybe it's his wife's mother) is a straight-rip on Mama from Mama's Family, right down to the looks and the crotchety acting. Seriously, that was the most stereotypical annoying grandmother I've ever seen in a movie, I couldn't stand it, I swear it had to be based on something else I've seen 100 times, the ten minutes with that character was driving me completely insane. Lewellyn's wife was pretty annoying too, but I can forgive it if that was the actual dialogue in the book.

[Meister]

No Country For Old Men
I thought it worked exceptionally well. Sure they could have shown it, but we've seen scenes like that a thousand times already, and a film that isn't primarily about such scenes doesn't need to be the 1001st.

Lord of the Rings went pretty bad whenever it turned into the Legolas & Gimli Comedy Hour, which was pretty much whenever they had Gimli on screen.

[Magus]

It's terrible moments in GREAT movies, Meister, obviously I think that No Country For Old Men is the cat's meow. Yes, that great. Besides, it still doesn't change the fact that Llewellyn's mother' character was enough to drive people insane. I would hope you can at least agree that that scene was a terrible moment.

I thought some of the Gimli moments in the LOTR were pretty funny, even if it made the character into a running gag instead of what he was in the novel (which was just a cool dwarf guy). Expect even more dwarf hilarity in The Hobbit as the actual novel made a lot of the dwarves into comic relief, or at least Bombur. Freaking Bombur. I don't know why they brought him along (I can't remember, maybe he did at least one good thing on the trip to redeem himself...I don't think so though).

[Bells]

I know i'm beating a dead horse, but all scenes with Anakin after the point Padme tells him she is pregnant were pretty awfull (the beggining up to Dooku's death is Awesome, it's like a totally different movie...)

The Swing thing with mutt was really pretty bad... but as it was said, probably Lucas had a hand in it (i swear... it's like the guy Cant remember how to make movies now...)

The whole final battle in Spiderman 3 ... i mean "i got her, buddy!" ? Harry only died when he wanted to. and so many other errors and misteps...

[Mirai Gen]

Lord of the Rings went pretty bad whenever it turned into the Legolas & Gimli Comedy Hour, which was pretty much whenever they had Gimli on screen.
I don't really like the LOTR books that much (And that's just asking for fireballs to be cast at me), but even I figured that Jackson could have found a better way to use Gimli other than comedic relief.

I will, however, give Gimli kudos to one of his best lines. Post Legolas ass-kicking: "...THAT STILL ONLY COUNTS AS ONE!"

The whole final battle in Spiderman 3 ... i mean "i got her, buddy!" ? Harry only died when he wanted to. and so many other errors and misteps...
Man, the final battle didn't bug me nearly as much as having Tobey Macguire yet again put on the "Battle Torn Spider Man" outfit.

It was bad enough when it was Spider Man 2 and they used the same outfit but come on, everyone can recognize the exposed chunk of Parker's eye the third time around.

[Nique]

A) "In Latin Jehovah with an I" from Last Crusade. Sigh. 5 minutes of research would have solved that one. For those not in the know Jehovah is only spelt with an I in Latin if J hasn't been invented yet. There was a J on the board and so it should have been spelt with a J. Then again J wasn't invented till the 1500s so there shouldn't have been a J on the board. Either way its wrong.

I'm going to take a concept I talked about in this thread (http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?t=29441) and ask; Was there another Latin character that looks like J?

Speaking of! Let me just mention that I was entirely disappointed with the ending of this last Indiana Jones movie. ENTIRELY. It's not supposed to have a weird sci-fi vibe, he's a freaking archaeologist. It made ZERO sense, not some sense! Can't they count!

[Smarty McBarrelpants]

I'm going to take a concept I talked about in this thread (http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?t=29441) and ask; Was there another Latin character that looks like J?


Actually this is something I hadn't considered.
Cause I've tried to analyze middle and dark age texts before and they all went to the school of "Pick your own symbols for the alphabet". Some of the Ls that I've seen could be passed off as Js in a poor light I guess.

[Wyndon]

Actually this is something I hadn't considered.
Cause I've tried to analyze middle and dark age texts before and they all went to the school of "Pick your own symbols for the alphabet". Some of the Ls that I've seen could be passed off as Js in a poor light I guess.

While there is no letter that looks like J in the latin alphabet, it could be, as you say, a T or an L in bad light

*shrug*

[Meister]

Besides, it still doesn't change the fact that Llewellyn's mother' character was enough to drive people insane. I would hope you can at least agree that that scene was a terrible moment.
Honestly? I don't remember her at all. :D

I will, however, give Gimli kudos to one of his best lines. Post Legolas ass-kicking: "...THAT STILL ONLY COUNTS AS ONE!"
Far as I remember that one actually was from the book. It's not that Gimli and Legolas were 100% serious all the time there, but whatever comedic scenes they had worked entirely without any reference to haha look at Gimli he is not as tall as everyone else.

[Nique]

Far as I remember that one actually was from the book. It's not that Gimli and Legolas were 100% serious all the time there, but whatever comedic scenes they had worked entirely without any reference to haha look at Gimli he is not as tall as everyone else.

Well it was the awkwardness with which they interacted which was interesting/ funny. Which is actually kind of amazing that Tolkien accurately reproduced real world culture clashing in entirely made up races. The bits about Gimli being afraid of trees and stuff was pretty hilarious.

[Lord of Joshelplex]

I don't really like the LOTR books that much.

A lot of people prefer the movies, simply becasue the books are a pain to read.

Now, in Beyond Thunderdrome, during the ending scenes, when that little kid holds up Max's train, that part was just out of place in the middle of a massive and brutal chase scene.

[Cid Highwind]

Actually this is something I hadn't considered.
Cause I've tried to analyze middle and dark age texts before and they all went to the school of "Pick your own symbols for the alphabet". Some of the Ls that I've seen could be passed off as Js in a poor light I guess.

So its basically like modern cursive writing. Add some curly bits to the letter and bullshit something up.