Let's Talk About Star Wars

[Seil]

Light Sabers are awesome.

[Masked Jedi]

And Purple Light Sabers are even more awesome. I has proof.

[RickZarber]

An on-topic Wing-Wong (oxymoron?) from last month:

RickZarber: I'm still hoping Lucas Arts will develop their own game for the Wii independent of the other systems. All I really want is a good lightsaber fighting game. Story isn't necessary. I can play KotOR if I want story.
Mauve Mage: hehehee. That WOULD be pretty awesome.
RickZarber: I just want to be a Jedi, is that too much to ask?
Mauve Mage: Apparently it is,for Nintendo.
RickZarber: Screw Nintendo. Gimme a real lightsaber, know what I'm sayin'?
Mauve Mage: Oh, I like your idea much better!!!
RickZarber: I'm sayin' I want this to be real outside my computer:
http://www.geocities.com/zarbervserc/Lightsabers.jpg
Mauve Mage: hehehe!! Only if you get one for me too.
RickZarber: Definitely. And together we shall rule the Galaxy! Muwaha! Muwahahahahahah!
Mauve Mage: .....you apparently need a red lightsaber. XD
RickZarber: Er, I mean, restore peace to the Galaxy! Yeah, that one.
Mauve Mage: Sure.... We'll restore peace through BENEVOLENT TYRANNY!!
RickZarber: Basically, it'd go down like this. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpuEMSH6zB4)
Mauve Mage: Ha! That's awesome! Yes, I want that.

[Smarty McBarrelpants]

Well the Wii version of the Force Unleashed is apparentely getting the amount of lightsabering amped up hugely which is a good thing.

[POS Industries]

Yeah, it's to make up for the fact that the bigass physics engine they developed is too much for the Wii to handle, which is fine by me. I'll take actually getting to use my Wiimote like a lightsaber over debris crashing about in fancy ways any day.

[Smarty McBarrelpants]

Defineatly.
And I mean, on our computers in the flat we have all manner of top end shooters and things for multiplayer. But we still play Jedi Knight most often cause hacking stuff up with lightsabers never gets old.
All I'm hoping is that they don't stuff it up. All I want is to have the lightsabers tracking to the wiimote. Not some stupid "deviate off centre and it'll go that way" bollocks that some games give.
The rest of the game can be terrible but they have to get saber fights correct and it'll be awesome.

[RickZarber]

Yeah, Force Unleashed is actually what spawned that conversation. But I'm still betting the lightsaber stuff--as the Wii version was almost an after-thought--will be glitchy and frustrating.

Anyways, the real point of that was the Youtube link at the bottom. Three in the Morning (and its sequel, which I only just discovered) has been one of my favorite fan films for years.

~

It shows how much of a geek I am that the weather warming up makes me giddy because it means I can work on lightsaber choreography again.

[Seil]

Wikipedia: Lightsabers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightsaber)
Lightsabers: Science (http://www.exn.ca/starwars/lightsaber.cfm)
Lightsabers: Build Your Own (http://www.build-lightsaber.com/)

[Kerensky287]

I have a Starwars question.

If they've managed to explain almost EVERYTHING in Star Wars rationally...

...how do they explain Han Solo's "Parsecs" comment? As in, he did the Kessel Run in less than... some number of parsecs? Because a parsec is a unit of distance. That's like saying you did a 100m dash in only 100 metres.

[RickZarber]

One of the books (I forget which) explained that by saying that the Kessel run brought you past a black hole. Han shaved both time and distance off his run by plotting a course dangerously close to the event horizon.

Yeah, Star Wars is master of retcon...

[CelesJessa]

And Purple Light Sabers are even more awesome. I has proof.

Why ARE the purple ones more popular anyway? My nephew takes his purple one EVERYWHERE with him (despite that he also has a red and a blue one)... and he's blind!

I am proud that my nephew is turning into a nerd, although right now all he does is eat, breath, and sleep Star Wars. He's going through that phase where he asks questions non-stop, so it is my job as his aunt to be versed enough in Star Wars to have an answer for his questions (even the unanswerable ones).

But luckily, I love Star Wars too.

[Seil]

Why ARE the purple ones more popular anyway? My nephew takes his purple one EVERYWHERE with him (despite that he also has a red and a blue one)... and he's blind!


Mace Windu's violet-colored lightsaber in the movie was colored differently because actor Samuel L. Jackson requested it in Episode II. The violet color does not reflect the skill of the user in the movie universe. In the Expanded Universe, however, violet, being a mix of red and blue, indicates the mastery of a lightsaber form known as Vaapad or Form VII. Windu's attunement to the light side of the force allows him to use his fighting style and Force powers, skills that come dangerously close to requiring use of the Dark Side without actually tainting the Jedi using them. Windu was met with great controversy over his choice of crystal. Due to the great difficulty involved in attaining such a rare type of crystal, it is also said that a violet crystal is a choice only the most skilled masters in lightsaber combat can make, which might also explain his unusual blade color. Usually the lightsaber crystal will call out to its chosen master during the trials to become a Jedi when the Padawan travels to Ilum or Adega.

Lightsaber Fighting Styles:

* Form I Shii-Cho - The basic and most simplistic form, first form taught to younglings. Known users are The Jedi Exile, Kas'im, Stass Allie, Obi-Wan Kenobi (familiar with basic principles), Kit Fisto, General Grievous, Cin Drallig and Darth Vader (used elements in his personal variation of Form V). Being the first form learned, almost all Jedi and Sith use some aspect of Shii-Cho in their dueling.

* Form II Makashi - Most advantageous in lightsaber against lightsaber dueling. Elegant, effective and deadly. Few Jedi use it because of the relative rarity of this type of combat. Known users are: The Jedi Exile, Kas'im, Count Dooku/Darth Tyranus, Cin Drallig and General Grievous.

* Form III Soresu - Form which strongly emphasizes on defense and blaster fire deflection. Used by Jedi beset by multiple blaster-wielding opponents to defend themselves from incoming fire. Known users are The Jedi Exile, Kai'im, Obi-Wan Kenobi, General Grievous, Darth Vader (used elements of Soresu in his personal variation of Form V), Barriss Offee and Luminara Unduli.

* Form IV Ataru - Acrobatic form, emphasizing agility. This technique mainly involves the Force to perform some of the maneuvers. Relatively aggressive and tends to open defense. Known users are Zez-Kai Ell, Kavar, Vrook Lamar, Kas'im, Master Yoda, Qui-Gon Jinn, Aayla Secura, Quinlan Vos, Cin Drallig, Obi-Wan Kenobi, General Grievous and Alema Rar.

* Form V Shien / Djem So - Takes some of the defensive powers from Form III and channels them to offensive powers. Form V users can use the lightsaber to deflect blaster bolts back at attackers. Known users of Shien are Zez-Kai Ell, Kavar, Vrook Lamar and Khaat Qiyn. Known users of Djem So are: Darth Bane, Aayla Secura and Luke Skywalker. Anakin Skywalker, Darth Vader, and the Sith Blademaster Kas'im use both variants of this form.

* Form VI Niman - Diplomatic form, used by many Jedi in the period when Chancellor Palpatine was in power. Very well rounded, but does not excel anywhere. Note that all Jedi who practiced Niman in the Battle of Geonosis were killed. Often used as a basis for Jar'Kai. Known users are Zez-Kai Ell, Kavar, Vrook Lamar, Kas'im, General Grievous and Coleman Trebor.

* Form VII Juyo/Vaapad - Dubbed the Way of the Vornskr or The Ferocity Form, Juyo, a term from High Galactic, was originally considered an incomplete form for millennia. Generally viewed as undeveloped and rarely used by the Jedi and the Sith, Juyo was not seen as one of the main forms for generations of Jedi. Jedi Master Mace Windu completed Form VII when he developed the form of lightsaber combat known as Vaapad, named after a creature from Sarapin which moved with incredible speed. It was considered the most powerful form, but because of the intensity involved, it was thought dangerous because it bordered on the Dark Side of the Force. Practitioners of Vaapad included Mace Windu, (creator) Depa Billaba, Sora Bulq (co-creator) and Quinlan Vos (incomplete). Practitioners of standard Juyo include General Grievous, Darth Maul, Zez-Kai Ell, Vrook Lamar, Kavar and Kas'im. Count Dooku seemed to know enough of the Juyo form to teach General Grievous and his IG-100 MagnaGuards, so he is a possible Juyo practitioner.

[RickZarber]

I've never really liked the whole "form" thing personally. Seeing as how it never even existed until one day (sometime between 2002 and 2005) some one just made it up. I'll give Vaapad its due, just because it was Matt Stover's creation and I like how John Ostrander worked it into the comics. But all the others don't really work when you try to match them up to the movies. There's no real set form for the lightsaber fights, and I think that's how it should be. I think everyone should develop their own personal style of fighting.

[Regulus Tera]

I prefer Episode III to V.

*hides*

[Seil]

I bought the Episode III video game, and it's kina lame. Should I buy Knights Of The Old Republic instead?

[Bells]

Funny you said that... i've JUST started playing Kotor2:TSL ...

I was going to grab a few mods to expand it (not cheat) like extra non-broken itens, better textures (the game is quite dated), more faces, clothings, weapons, and Force powers... but i dont have a freaking clue on how to install these mods...

But anyway. Star Wars to me was always like a Space version of the Lord of the Rings... but everything i see beyond the 3 first movies is the same thing

"new" characters that are actually old characters with a "twist"
a new explanation
a new confusion
Hey! Look! here is a cameo!

I get the appeal and i love the appeal... but i cant see many people getting into too deep on SW nowadays

[Smarty McBarrelpants]

One of the books (I forget which) explained that by saying that the Kessel run brought you past a black hole. Han shaved both time and distance off his run by plotting a course dangerously close to the event horizon.

Yeah, Star Wars is master of retcon...

I hope there is some guy in an office somewhere and it's his job to make up stuff like this. Cause if there isn't, there should be.

[POS Industries]

I bought the Episode III video game, and it's kina lame. Should I buy Knights Of The Old Republic instead?
YES

[DFM]

I bought the Episode III video game, and it's kina lame. Should I buy Knights Of The Old Republic instead?

You just have no idea, do you? No idea at all.

Knights of the Old Republic might be my favorite game from the last generation. The sequel isn't nearly as good as the first one (No matter what Mesden says) but it's still alright and worth a playthrough or two.

[MasterOfMagic]

And that's from the guy that seems to hate -EVERYTHING-.

So....yeah. Go buy it now. Seriously.

EDIT: I just remembered that I have it in the apartment. *runs off to play*

[Mirai Gen]

Knights of the Old Republic might be my favorite game from the last generation. The sequel isn't nearly as good as the first one (No matter what Mesden says) but it's still alright and worth a playthrough or two.
I think that the only time I've had really good Star Wars experiences was the original KOTOR and Republic Commando. And by 'good' I mean 'holy shit.'

Oh man, that's a game I need to play again right there. It's not as advanced with squad-AI as Gears is, but be damned if it wasn't amazing.

Also: Goddamn it Seil, go get KOTOR. It can't be more than twenty bucks and it's a totally fantastic Star Wars game.

[Mr.Bookworm]

Go buy it right now. And also grab the second one. Then pay huge amounts of cash money to Bioware to tell us if they're making a third one.

[MasterOfMagic]

My first "Holy shit" Star Wars game was Jedi Knight. The demo, not the actual game. I played that damn thing over and over and over again. One level, a million ways to kill the stormtroopers, and a nice light saber battle at the end.

I think I was literally entertained for weeks. Is that sad?

[Mirai Gen]

Not really. I kept watching the E3 trailer for Devil May Cry 3 every few days until it was released like a year later. That was a trailer and it kept me happy.

[Masked Jedi]

Another reason why purple lightsabers are awesome is because purple/violet is the highest energy color.

[RickZarber]

I hope there is some guy in an office somewhere and it's his job to make up stuff like this. Cause if there isn't, there should be.He's freelance, but otherwise it's pretty much this (http://danwall88.googlepages.com/) guy (http://blogs.starwars.com/danwallace/) here (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Daniel_Wallace).

[Seil]

And that's from the guy that seems to hate -EVERYTHING-.

DFM likes chocolate covered cherries. (>>) (http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showpost.php?p=728101&postcount=9)

[FenrisWolf]

Alright Seil, if you're gonna make a thread, please keep on the topic of the thread you made. For that matter, stay on the topic of the thread you're currently posting in. Forever. Consider yourself warned because quite frankly you've had this coming for a while.

[Flarecobra]

One that I miss....the X-wing series of games. STILL love playing the latest one to come out...which is about 10 years ago. And I don't recall it saying anywhere that lightsabre color having to do with alignment. After all, in Episode 3, Anikan's sabre remained blue, and there have been jedi in the past that have left their sabre color the same. And also in the Corellian Crisis series of books, Leia, obviously working as a light-sider, wields a red one, and also some of the Dark Jedi in the Jedi Knight game weilds a blue one.

[Smarty McBarrelpants]

Another reason why purple lightsabers are awesome is because purple/violet is the highest energy color.

Also, assuming lightsabers are similar to lasers, the hardest to make.
It'll be the narrowest too, however, so hard to hit.
I always assumed that the colour of the lightsaber was not related to the blade itself but more a guide, like how for some UV lasers we also attach a visible laser to run down the same path which aids in focusing so one can see where it is.

[Seil]

BHS, I touched a bit on that earlier. (http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showpost.php?p=786091&postcount=12)

[Mirai Gen]

I liked how Mace Windu's ultimate style of fighting that he and he alone mastered without turning to the Dark Side was foiled by Anakin lopping off his arms and throwing him out a window.

I love Star Wars too but come on, sometimes they really take the 'make shit up' factor way too far.

[Magus]

The alignment thing is a bit broken on the difference between green and blue, as well, since I see no real explanation of it there. The only thing I can think of is that really "wise" characters like Yoda have green, but then again, Obi-Wan is pretty wise and has blue, and freakin' Luke has a green one when he finally gets around to making his own personal one and he's about as wise as your average Joe. All of this ignores the inclusion of new crap like SILVER lightsabers into KOTOR and such.

Actually, whatever happened to the Sith having red lightsabers because they have to use synthetic crystals, being denied access to the Jedi temples? 'Cause like, that was the canon reason a while ago. I'm sure they retconned it, but it actually made some SENSE, more sense than the alignment stuff, to me.

EDIT: I also think the fighting style seem to be lacking something since so many character seem to use four or more of them together in their fighting style. The first two or three made sense, then they just started to go downhill into, "and this is a slight variation on the whole deal and easily added to a Jedi's repertoire BUT IT'S A DIFFERENT STYLE, I TELLS YA." Like seriously, how is directing energy blasts back at enemies a "style" when it seems like every single damn Jedi should be able to do it (disregarding the deaths in Episode III near the end there where they're shot to death, which could possible be explained by the fact they were surrounded and caught unawares and have to dodge like six hundred blasts per minute)?

Really, seriously, the only two styles are: stupid average side-character Jedi who's not that great and easily killed, and Jedi Master Knight Awesome Guy who lasts several movies. Besides, Kit Fisto (why is there a guy named Kit Fisto?), Kit Fisto is the green guy with green dreadlocks, right? Okay, he survives Attack of the Clones arena, which means he doesn't use crappy Niman, then is quite easily done in by Darth Sidious? I thought he was half decent, but I guess he didn't learn any Mikashi? I dunno, Star Wars "canon" just doesn't suit me. I'd much just prefer to say "The force was far stronger in Darth Sidious than Kit Fisto" than get into stuff like fighting styles which all seem to appear very similar...

[Mirai Gen]

Like I said, the 'make shit up as you go' gets completely destroyed after a while.

It's very cool to imagine that somehow there's different styles of martial arts within Jedi training - the ones like Makashi and Ataro actually are kind of cool - but it's another to say "This one is more powerful" and then promptly have the only user in the known universe promptly get his ass kicked by someone half his power and talent.

I mean if the "Chop off Windu's hands" scene in Episode 3 had turned into Anakin and Sidious vs Windu then I could totally see them whipping his ass since there's two of them and they're both using the Dark Side and both are super super powerful force users. But just saying "Oh he dies because that's how the plot goes" was beyond lame.

[Masked Jedi]

That's why I think he didn't die. But that's just me.

[RickZarber]

(In response to Mirai)
Which is why, I think, you really have to separate movie-canon from EU-canon. From what I've seen (not necessarily here, but in general) people seem to have a hard time doing that. But if you can get your head around "The movies are George Lucas's story and the EU is hundreds of other creative influences which do not take canonical precedent over the movie," then I think it's easier to enjoy. By which I mean to say, Vaapad did not exist as far as the movies were concerned. So it's not so much of a contradiction as it is two separate realities.

That said, I can't even watch the movies anymore. I've seen the original trilogy too many times. I can't sit through a movie when I know what every character is going to say before they say it. And the prequels, well, it's a mix between seen them too many times and I just don't like them enough. Episode III is probably the only one I'm not burned out on, and that's just because I've only seen it maybe four or five times.

[Hawk]

He was suddenly and unexpectedly betrayed, immediately leaving him un-able to defend as a very powerful force user (of at least equal or greater power) then delivered the final strike. Seems to make sense to me, jedi aren't omniscient after all, he simply didn't see it coming.

In that respect, his death is easily comparable to most of the other jedis from ep.3.

[Bells]

You know, considering that Anikin was a wussy-pansy wh couldnt really keep his feeling to himself... and that most jedi masters can sense evil stuff a mile and a quarter way before you enter their rooms with stuff like

"I feel the dark side strong in you... and fear... and anger... much anger... and you ate a chilly burger on the way here..."

Without even break a sweat (or waiting) i'm really annoyed to the fact that mace L jackson windu could get caught off guard like that... specially after the fact that he wooped so much ass on the Clone Wars cartoon...

[Hawk]

But then you could say; "How did none of the jedi realise they were being betrayed until it was blindingly obvious?" Only Yoda realised in time, due to his absurd power level.

It's possible Windu might've had more of a chance, but he had just fought a pretty intense battle and was at the time of Anakins betrayal more focused on Sidius and not getting electricuted. And it wasn't until Windus death that Anakin went truly dark side anyway, otherwise someone would've sensed something already.

[Mirai Gen]

Well their Force sensitivity has been diminished by the time of the Great Jedi Purge, that's one thing that I like about the movies is their setting that up. In Episode 2 they had the whole thing with the clone army on Kamino, and the Jedi couldn't sense anything and Yoda pointed out that they were blind if they couldn't see it.

It just doesn't make much sense considering even the Episode 3 book - which I love immensely - just said that Windu was too far into the fight with Sidious to notice Anakin's attack.

[Smarty McBarrelpants]

BHS, I touched a bit on that earlier. (http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showpost.php?p=786091&postcount=12)
With an explanation full of ridiculous!

As for the whole Mace Windu death thing that annoyed me too. Even if he couldn't sense Anakin's evil child killing self what happened to the whole "See things before they happen" thing. I mean if you can block laser gun fire you can block the swing of a laser sword which is limited by hand speed and thus heaps slower.

[Kerensky287]

Wasn't Windu deflecting LIGHTNING at the time? I think that deflecting fucking LIGHTNING may take quite a bit of focus. Also, if he moved to block, he probably would've been unable to BLOCK THE LIGHTNING.

I found that Mace Windu's death made a whole lot more sense than Anakin's reasoning behind actually causing the death. Seriously, I know Anakin wants to save his wife's life, but that doesn't exactly mean that he should go kill everyone he's ever known and a few babies for a chance at saving her.

[Smarty McBarrelpants]

Wasn't Windu deflecting LIGHTNING at the time? I think that deflecting fucking LIGHTNING may take quite a bit of focus. Also, if he moved to block, he probably would've been unable to BLOCK THE LIGHTNING.

I found that Mace Windu's death made a whole lot more sense than Anakin's reasoning behind actually causing the death. Seriously, I know Anakin wants to save his wife's life, but that doesn't exactly mean that he should go kill everyone he's ever known and a few babies for a chance at saving her.

He wasn't blocking lightning at the time, was just making a big overhand slash at the Emperor who was defenceless as far as I remember. Not much concentration needed there.

[Bells]

Actually, if i recall correctly, Anakin asqued Windu to spare palpatine... but Windu went for the Final blow, and anakin jumped in to disarm him...

isnt that what happened?!

[Robert Paulson]

Talk about Star Wars, eh? Okay. Did you know people I know in the real world come to me for Star Wars info, and have done so for the last nine or so years? It's true.

In middle school, two classmates of mine were arguing about whether or not Han Solo was a smuggler. One of them asked me, "Was Han Solo a smuggler?" I said "Yeah." He said to his partner, "Told ya so!" Another time in high school, my teacher was talking about random stuff because it was a free day, he started talking about Star Wars, then he asked, "What's the opposite of the Dark Side? The Good Side? The Hero Side?" I interrupted him and said, "The Light Side. There's a Light Side of the Force, and there's a Dark Side of the Force." He thanked me. And my parents have asked me questions, too, my favorite being, "How come Mace Windu has a purple lightsaber?"

And speaking of movies, I like every Star Wars movie . . . except II. You can trash talk II for all I care; makes no difference to me. All the others I love, though. My favorite is VI. I don't know exactly why, but it is.

I am proud that my nephew is turning into a nerd, although right now all he does is eat, breath, and sleep Star Wars.

Whoa, funny thing. My second cousin, who is eight, (I'm currently 22.) is now a full-fledged Star Wars fanatic. He's seen all the movies and is currently playing some of the games. I haven't had a chance to talk to him since he's embraced The Force, so to speak, but I'm sure our conversations will be interesting, to say the least.

Oh, also, uh, is one of your relatives becoming a nerd really something to be proud of? Oh wait, don't answer that. I don't wanna go off-topic. In fact, I'll start a new thread about that.

[Mirai Gen]

Actually, if i recall correctly, Anakin asqued Windu to spare palpatine... but Windu went for the Final blow, and anakin jumped in to disarm him...

isnt that what happened?!
Yeah except that Anakin was basically saying "Don't kill him, damn it" and Windu was all "Psh, naw, Imma just kill him." And when Windu raised his arms to strike he didn't even bat an eyelash, despite his amazing status in the Jedi order as extremely force-sensitive, superbly powerful, and talented with a one-of-a-kind lightsaber fighting styles.

All of that and Anakin just swings his wrist up with a lasersword in his hand and it lops off Windu.

We're saying that with how powerful he was, all of Anakin's protesting, and how unstable they knew Anakin was you'd think that he'd be able to go, "Wait, this kid might fucking kill me," before he let Anakin lop off his arms.

[Azisien]

Have any of the books cleared up why Episode II sucked total ass?

[Mirai Gen]

No, R. A. Salvatore wrote it, and the record shows he's awful when he's not doing Forgotten Realms. Seriously, after he killed Chewbacca they should have known not to let that man near a manuscript with a "STAR WARS OK" logo on it.

But! Matthew Stover's Episode 3 novel cleared up that Episode 3 was actually really great, it's just that George Lucas fucked it up.

To be fair Windu's death still didn't make sense, but trust me when I say that the book made you forget all about Emo Whinypants Christiansen.

EDIT: Good point. Sorry.

[MasterOfMagic]

I'm probably the only person in existence who didn't mind the death of chewie. ( Some people might not know about that =X )

Then again, I only read recounts of the event, I don't think I ever picked up the book it actually happens in. Maybe that has something to do with it.

[Azisien]

But! Matthew Stover's Episode 3 novel cleared up that Episode 3 was actually really great, it's just that George Lucas fucked it up.

Well I haven't read any SW novels and I've no problem assuming books are usually better than movies in terms of telling a proper story...I loved Episode III. I've probably watched it more times than every other SW movie combined, besides Episode I.

[RickZarber]

No, R. A. Salvatore wrote it, and the record shows he's awful when he's not doing Forgotten Realms. Seriously, after he killed Chewbacca they should have known not to let that man near a manuscript with a "STAR WARS OK" logo on it.Y'know, it's sad to think Salvatore is still getting flak for that, considering the word came down from Lucasfilm that he had to kill of a main character. The only creative influence he had in the decision was picking Chewie's name off of a short list of pre-approved deaths.

I mean, the man was getting death threats for it. I think that's pretty depressing.

That said, yeah, I wasn't much of a fan of the Ep II novel.

EDIT: So I just saw a trailer for The Force Unleashed on the Wii... Multiplayer arena battles with dozens of characters to choose from? Wii controls that look like they may not suck? I, uh... I might end up buying it for Wii and 360 now. Well, assuming I buy a 360.

[Mirai Gen]

Well I haven't read any SW novels and I've no problem assuming books are usually better than movies in terms of telling a proper story...I loved Episode III. I've probably watched it more times than every other SW movie combined, besides Episode I.
Then you have absolutely no excuse in not buying this book.

I cannot impress upon all of you how good this book is.

[Ryanderman]

The prologue to the book is far and away my favorite piece of Star Wars narration outside the best of the movies. Absolutely amazing.

[RickZarber]

Episode III book? Yes. (http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showpost.php?p=296409&postcount=104)

[Mirai Gen]

Rick, as a fellow Matthew Stover fan I would like to say that I am envious to the point which I hate you intensely.

INTENSELY!

EDIT: To clarify it's one thing to talk so much about Matthew Stover's Episode 3 book as "The Best Goddamn Thing Ever" (http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showpost.php?p=597213&postcount=45) repeatedly (http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showpost.php?p=465779&postcount=12) and have someone read it and go and agree with you.

It's quite another to be preemptively one-upped by someone (http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showpost.php?p=593820&postcount=26) who is just as big of a fan as you are except he actually managed to get a picture and an autographed copy of the book.

Ass.

So jealous.