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Mirai Gen
01-20-2008, 11:53 PM
Okay, Nuklearpedia is go. (http://nuklearpedia.com/doku.php)
Ground rules:
1 - Certain members will request to not be a part of this. Respect their wishes. Any users who do not wish to be a part of Nuklearpedia - or don't want their picture posted on the site - need to edit their name and request on this page: Opt Out at Nuklearpedia (http://nuklearpedia.com/doku.php?id=opt_out).
2 - This is not a way to stress how awesome you are - this is a fun project to goof around with. I swear to god if I see the slightest hint of forum wang I am going to shut it down before this whole thing gets ruined for everyone.
3 - Silliness is key.
4 - Nobody but the member himself/herself can update a picture. I will watch this closely, and if I see something suspicious I'll ask the member.
5 - If I have to, I will lock out articles if they become too "Exonorate Fifthfiend" like.
6 - There will probably be more rules to follow.
EDIT: Old post below:
So I stumbled across this idea the other day while Nikose and I were chatting.
Basically it'd be a Wikipedia that NPF members can edit, and it's going to be chock full of NPF 'inside jokes' and silliness and tons of 8bit stuff while we're at it.
There'd be an article for each prominent member (Basically anyone who's not a lurker), articles for some of our jokes, and yes, there will be a Yodadog article.
I like the idea but as always my ideas sound great until someone looks at me and goes, "But that's stupid," so I wanted to suggest it to the gang first.
All in favor? All opposed?
FenrisWolf
01-21-2008, 11:15 AM
Validat'd. As long as people weren't dicks about editting people's articles, then I can see it being cool beans.
Lord of Joshelplex
01-21-2008, 11:34 AM
Dude! That idea kicks ass! Are we gonna be doing our own articles, or we gonna try and maintain a standpoint of neutrality.
Telephalsion
01-21-2008, 11:38 AM
I vote that noone may write their own article, it'll be more interesting to hear the community view on each person ratehr than each individuals own self-perception.
Perhaps.
FenrisWolf
01-21-2008, 11:39 AM
I vote that noone may write their own article, it'll be more interesting to hear the community view on each person ratehr than each individuals own self-perception.
Perhaps.
Sustained.
42PETUNIAS
01-21-2008, 11:42 AM
I'm all for it, but yeah, it might be a good idea to make an informal rule of not editing your own articles, unless it's just basic personal information. I mean, while it would be unfair for you to write a biased article on yourself, just saying where you're from, and how old you are and junk like that should be okay.
Just a thought, someone can always put up a yaplet for the wiki, it wouldn't need to be any kind of chat, just to help organize the smaller things, so a thread doesn't get overcrowded.
Mr.Bookworm
01-21-2008, 11:46 AM
I vote that noone may write their own article, it'll be more interesting to hear the community view on each person ratehr than each individuals own self-perception.
*agrees*
Otherwise...
*gives support for this excellent suggestion*
Clearly the yodadog article will go
"The yodadog is a phenomenon wherein part of a member's post is repla-" and then there's a yodadog.
I like this idea. I've toyed around with the idea that I, infamous as I am, should have a wiki article. This is close enough.
Nikose Tyris
01-21-2008, 12:01 PM
...
Son of a...
Do I even get a vote anymore? ;-;
Nah, kidding. I'm good with this as long as I don't have to do a lot of work.
PS oh and I will still do the IP bans cause that's fun.
bluestarultor
01-21-2008, 12:24 PM
I totally agree, except that I think a few exceptions should be made to the no-self-editing rule. Like if someone posts something really nasty about you, or embarrassing personal stuff, I think that you should reserve the right to not have to leave it there.
Mr.Bookworm
01-21-2008, 12:27 PM
I think it's a given that if someone's posting that kind of stuff, it's automatically removed.
42PETUNIAS
01-21-2008, 12:27 PM
I say if somebody writes something good enough about you that you can't find anybody willing to delete it, then half the fun of the wiki would be leaving it there.
Meister
01-21-2008, 12:51 PM
Explaining jokes is the one surefire way to ensure they'll never be funny anymore.
Regarding profile entries, I fear people will start doing/posting things solely for attention, in this case represented by a wiki edit, and it'll spiral downward from there on. It's gonna be the original reputation system all over again.
Would this whole thing be more along the lines of the "propper", unbaised, non-original research style of wikipedia, or the complete joke fest of unencyclepedia?
Either way, so long as it's not demeaning towards anyone then I'm also all for the idea.
Meister
01-21-2008, 01:20 PM
I'm assuming unencyclopedia style.
If it's supposed to be Wikipedia style God help us all.
Melfice
01-21-2008, 01:29 PM
Yeah, with some of the Sherlock Holmes' we have running around on these forums...
God help us, indeed.
Lord of Joshelplex
01-21-2008, 01:43 PM
Either way, so long as it's not demeaning towards anyone then I'm also all for the idea.
Cept the French, cause they suck.
We shoulde have a page dedicated to the most epic bans, like that guy that PMed Fifth his Penorz, or the guy that fakes a school shooting thingy.
Epic bans, do tell me more.
Mirai Gen
01-21-2008, 02:28 PM
Yeah it's pretty much going to be one-tenth factual and nine-tenths joke.
Like an article about Kurosen and how he's the creator of 8bit and Atomic Robo and Nuklear Age, but then it could talk freely about his Tau fixation and activity on NPF.
And just so I'm clear...I really want to make sure everyone wants to actually actively edit articles before we start doing this. I don't want this to be a project that starts and we have a few funny things here and there but then it vanishes into obscurity.
And if we do go full-speed ahead, maybe we can turn this into the 'talk and laugh about Nuklepedia' thread.
EDIT: Oh man, Tydeus and Otaku Son articles. This is going to be heaven.
Tendronai
01-21-2008, 02:31 PM
This would be really fun to do, so long as no one takes it too seriously.
Ryanderman
01-21-2008, 02:54 PM
EDIT: Oh man, Tydeus and Otaku Son articles. This is going to be heaven.
The sad thing is, I liked Tydeus. Right up to the point where, you know, he turned out to be psychopathic.
I know I'm not the most active of members, but I'd be all for helping with this.
Regulus Tera
01-21-2008, 03:00 PM
Am I a prominent member? Yes? Internet immortamality here I come!
Also, we totally have to do an article on how to pull a Fifth.
Demetrius
01-21-2008, 03:05 PM
Where is this going to be? I'm totally game!
Step 1: Be a mod.
Step 2: Be a jerk.
Step 3: ???
Step 4: Profit!
Kiddingdon'tbanme
Vault Of Thrones
01-21-2008, 03:05 PM
I would be willing to help.
And I think that bio's should be written by both the person and other people. Like have a name, hobbies, intersts by the person, then a comments section where everyone else says stuff about them.
Meister
01-21-2008, 03:17 PM
Like Facebook, then?
42PETUNIAS
01-21-2008, 03:18 PM
I for one believe that facebook would be 1000 times better if everyone could edit everyone else's profile anonymously.
Bells
01-21-2008, 03:27 PM
Now, you see... a Wiki of this community would be pretty much a new "Master" level inside joke that would be really great as long as people use it like it was a Off-topic forum Thread (with all the rules that apply there) Then, it would work...
We have a ommunity, a Ragnarok Server and now may have a Wiki... next year... Conventions!
bluestarultor
01-21-2008, 03:41 PM
I actually like the idea of people writing other people's profiles, at least at first. That way, it'll be kind of a surprise to finally see what people wrote about you. I'd personally love to do Mauve or Fifth. Of course, everybody would contribute to all articles but their own. Maybe it could be done in a grand unveiling, where people were somehow blocked from their own pages for a week, and after that, everyone would be able to see what was put for them.
After that, I think that there should be a point when you can edit your own profile, if only for updates that somebody else might not get to right away. Because unless we designate someone to keep up with all the news, or someone volunteers, I can see the info falling behind.
POS Industries
01-21-2008, 03:43 PM
Can you opt out of having a profile about you?
Telephalsion
01-21-2008, 03:47 PM
We have a ommunity, a Ragnarok Server and now may have a Wiki... next year... Conventions!
Then our own sovereign nation?
shiney
01-21-2008, 03:50 PM
I am for this as long as we don't have bits where people are either unduly sanctified or demonized...if there's going to be funny shit about people let's have it be funny shit about people, not funny shit about people who are the best evars on the forams and totally the #1 mod/poster/game player/dickhead or whatevs.
I don't want to see popularity contests and they can happen pretty easily in an idea like this.
Bells
01-21-2008, 03:54 PM
Can you opt out of having a profile about you?
Do you have doubt that people would then make Pages to talk about just that?
Also, the idea of a page for "memorable quotations" and "Camwhoring" alone makes this idea worthy
Mirai Gen
01-21-2008, 03:58 PM
I am for this as long as we don't have bits where people are either unduly sanctified or demonized...if there's going to be funny shit about people let's have it be funny shit about people, not funny shit about people who are the best evars on the forams and totally the #1 mod/poster/game player/dickhead or whatevs.
I don't want to see popularity contests and they can happen pretty easily in an idea like this.
Completely agreed.
The last thing I want to do is change this from "haha silliness" to "My article is better than yours."
Can you opt out of having a profile about you?
Absolutely. It can be an 'article' that's "POS_Industries" but it will have no information, be locked out of being edited, and contain only "This user has requested absence in Nuklepedia." or something.
Provided nobody really minds, I'll gladly take control of Nuklepedia, IE, locking out profiles of people who don't want to be a part of it, monitoring hateful/"BEST USER EVAR" articles, etc. I like wikis and god knows I put enough effort into Teletraan-1 (http://transformers.wikia.com/).
bluestarultor
01-21-2008, 04:07 PM
There should be an opt-out list page, though. Like a list of usernames that just don't want articles, and any reasons they might want posted for why, so long as it doesn't turn into yet more goofiness. So stuff like
Mauve Mage
Iyeru - due to request of privacy of past actions
or even
Kurosen - Because it's my webcomic! XP
would probably be okay, where stuff like
Shiney_Is_An_Ass - Because shiney is an ass!
might be less acceptable.
Edit: Or maybe it would just be no holds barred, considering the purpose. XD
Bells
01-21-2008, 04:09 PM
Yeah, but your going to handle it alone? it will start small, im positive... but you should at least have a backup team with you
Lost in Time
01-21-2008, 04:25 PM
Oh yeah, I'm totally all for this too, I think it will be interesting, as long as it doesn't turn into the reputation races like we had before.
I can't wait to see how this turns out.
bananarama
01-21-2008, 04:33 PM
Then our own sovereign nation?
And then teh intarnets!!1!
I fully support this idea and I can't wait to sabotage to contribute to this thing like any good NPFer would...
Oh yeah, I'm totally all for this too, I think it will be interesting, as long as it doesn't turn into the reputation races like we had before.
I really can't see this not happening.
secretskull
01-21-2008, 04:44 PM
I'm personally willing to volenteer to patrol the wiki for that sort of thing.
Also, I do not take bribes. Totally.
Lost in Time
01-21-2008, 04:53 PM
I really can't see this not happening.
I try to hope for the best.
That was a possibly intentional double negative. His words meant that it is very possible.
Lord of Joshelplex
01-21-2008, 04:55 PM
EDIT: Oh man, Tydeus and Otaku Son articles. This is going to be heaven.
I remember Tydeus, but not Otaku Son. Was he the one that stole a bunch of things from his RaiRO guild, and then tried to justify it by saying "They didnt say I couldn't Steal it?"
Otaku Son (San?) was a real old one. Long before RaiRO, I think.
Death by Stabbing
01-21-2008, 05:03 PM
I really can't see this not happening.
DFM makes a good point...it is in human nature to be competitive...
However on the other hand since reputation has come back I haven't seen any big problems.
I'm in favor of this Wiki idea
I'm going to vote against articles on individual posters, but I think the rest of it is just swell and good luck with it and all.
Bells
01-21-2008, 05:25 PM
How about a "friendly" rule?
Like, people who want or allow articles about themselves must write it themselves. And other posters would be allowed to add to that article, but without changing the original owner's article...? Ofcourse, it would have to work in a Honor system
Just a way to separate Fun from Fact, maybe?
The Wizard Who Did It
01-21-2008, 05:27 PM
I'm gonna back up what DFM said, if only because I see it being more like the last "Huggy Dovey" thread (the one where you mention everyone you appreciate on the forum). I'd expect some people's feelings are gonna be hurt for being forgotten about/left out of something/not having as long or praise-worthy of an article/etc. Also, yeah, rep.
However, if the idea goes through, there should totally be a list of appropriate threads and posts under references.
EDIT: And the problem Bellsouth would be people getting an ego because 40 people added to their article and one person being hurt for being all alone.
Sithdarth
01-21-2008, 05:31 PM
I insist my article be filled with nothing but "Pfft" over and over again. I think everyone knows why. If you don't then you don't count.
Regulus Tera
01-21-2008, 05:37 PM
Originally Posted by How to pull a Fifth
Step 1: Be a mod.
Step 2: Be a jerk.
Step 3: ???
Step 4: Profit!
Kiddingdon'tbanme
Actually (http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?p=354072#post354072), no (http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?p=354209#post354209).
Mondt
01-21-2008, 05:42 PM
EDIT: And the problem Bellsouth would be people getting an ego because 40 people added to their article and one person being hurt for being all alone.Yeah.
I can definately see how this would be a bad idea.
It would be a funny joke for all of like a week and then I think it would just turn bad in one form or another.
Mirai Gen
01-21-2008, 05:42 PM
I'm going to vote against articles on individual posters, but I think the rest of it is just swell and good luck with it and all.
Well, I'm tentatively going to disagree.
I think provided we monitor the poster articles pretty closely (I'll gather together a moderator team provided nobody minds letting me run the show) we'll give it a shot.
I would like to say that if they become too forum wang-y then yes, we will most definitely shut them down.
Hell I'm inclined to lock out the Fifthfiend article to everyone but the NPF moderators just because of past experience.
Regulus Tera
01-21-2008, 05:51 PM
Well, I'm tentatively going to disagree.
I think provided we monitor the poster articles pretty closely (I'll gather together a moderator team provided nobody minds letting me run the show) we'll give it a shot.
I would like to say that if they become too forum wang-y then yes, we will most definitely shut them down.
Hell I'm inclined to lock out the Fifthfiend article to everyone but the NPF moderators just because of past experience.
You mean the cocksucking or the bashfunning?
I don't think there's much you can do about it, short of artificially boosting articles that aren't getting enough contributers. People are going to create and edit articles for people they like, or who they know well, or who they can say funny things about.
I don't think there's going to be any intentional wanginess, but that's just they way it's going to naturally go.
Lord of Joshelplex
01-21-2008, 05:54 PM
Mine is gonna say "He likes Dominic Deegan, He doesnt count as people." and be locked from editing isnt it?
Bells
01-21-2008, 05:55 PM
i thought he meant the screwfuggin ...
But, yeah, it's a bittersweet mellody here...
Maybe if we did articles on somebody under request? Like, for instance... Seil asks that we do a Wiki article about him... so everybody taps in for that... but ofcourse, you coudlnt complain about content.. you asked for it
Making it using wikisite, right?
Smarty McBarrelpants
01-21-2008, 06:35 PM
Hmm. While the idea is good I can't see this working. Either it'll get a burst of activity and then fade away or turn problematic with like rep wars and things.
But if people are willing to look after it to prevent that thing, then you can try I suppose
Mirai Gen
01-21-2008, 06:36 PM
Haven't actually started yet, but yes that was the idea.
If necessary we could host it on Parker Comics, which Nikose is already cool with.
I just wanted to clear it with everyone before we actually started the ball rolling.
I think it's a good idea. Help those who had just joined up get in on som e of the history of NPF such as the more prominent trolls, Mods what have you.
I think it's a good idea. Help those who had just joined up get in on som e of the history of NPF such as the more prominent trolls...
Like me!
On another note, I'd be happy to contribute with this, as I have plenty of free time and a pretty good knowledge base of NPF and its denizens.
Death by Stabbing
01-21-2008, 07:16 PM
Like me!
On another note, I'd be happy to contribute with this, as I have plenty of free time and a pretty good knowledge base of NPF and its denizens.
But uh didn't you like just join this month or some thing...I mean it says January 2008...so how do you have knowledge on NPF and its denizens?
But uh didn't you like just join this month or some thing...I mean it says January 2008...so how do you have knowledge on NPF and its denizens?
You see? This is why NPFWiki is absolutely necessary.
Truce
01-21-2008, 07:19 PM
The best way to get to know people on NPF is by being on NPF.
Still, for those people who don't have the time for that, it'd be interesting for them to see what is said about people. To be honest, though, I think a nostalgia thread would serve well enough for looking back on the forum's past.
Lord of Joshelplex
01-21-2008, 07:21 PM
But uh didn't you like just join this month or some thing...I mean it says January 2008...so how do you have knowledge on NPF and its denizens?
TDK is a famous troll, or was anyways.
Yeah. Like DFM, TDK is nice now. Well, I've been nice for a while, but...
CelesJessa
01-21-2008, 07:35 PM
I think this is an interesting idea but...
(oh no, here comes the kill joy)
...Rather than making people more familiar with NPF, it might alienate people. Not necessarily like the rep thing, but it becomes somewhat elitest "oh, you're not on the wiki" and then, like the, "write about people you like" threads, people feel bad because nobody thought of THEM.
Plus, what kind of things are we going to write about each other anyway?
/Killjoy
Regardless, I think it could be fun. ^^ We could write about some of the most epic threads.
Lord of Joshelplex
01-21-2008, 07:45 PM
We could just always make a wiki about why the French blow. Hell, I might just do that myself.
The Wizard Who Did It
01-21-2008, 07:47 PM
Plus, what kind of things are we going to write about each other anyway?
The first thing I'm writing about you is that you're a killjoy. Killjoy. <3
Yeah. Like DFM, TDK is nice now. Well, I've been nice for a while, but...
Since when is lying a nice thing?=P
But yeah, it seems that people have made their statement that they expect that this will hurt and alienate somebody. From what I've seen from Mirai's posts, he kinda plans to do it anyway and expects that moderation will fix this problem. Doesn't seem that much more needs to be said in this area.
PyrosNine
01-21-2008, 07:56 PM
I am all for it, baby! And half of the fun of any wiki is the dirt people will spill on other people!
Things I think a wiki about NPF should cover:
The basics:
Each miniforum should get it's own page, I.E.;
General: The clean outer crust covering NPF's seedy underbelly, topics of moderate interest to all are made known and discussed.
Off topic: Essentially General, but with more sillyness and WTF. Yoda dog and Candle jack call this pla-
NPF Math:
FA *Fifthfiend's assholishness* = (MM (*Mesden's moodyness* x 2), MM = (FA +60), POS = (FA - MM)
The extended NPF:
The Fancomics
The NPF Avvy's
Avatar Squabbles
Nuklear Wright
FenrisWolf
01-21-2008, 08:16 PM
I request that Nikose be banned from my page should this come to fruition. Dude knows too much about me and thinks he knows more.
Lost in Time
01-21-2008, 08:21 PM
I would think that most mod pages be blocked from editing mostly. I think way to much people pick on Fifth and Fenris as it is.
Pick on Fenny? Who, (http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showpost.php?p=726673&postcount=1311) me? (http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showpost.php?p=728476&postcount=1316)
CelesJessa
01-21-2008, 08:37 PM
The first thing I'm writing about you is that you're a killjoy. Killjoy. <3
You betcha I'm a killjoy.
If anyone writes about me, they'd better include the whip of authority.
You betcha I'm a killjoy.
If anyone writes about me, they'd better include the whip of authority.
I have the perfect comic for your profile CJ >=P
Mr.Bookworm
01-21-2008, 08:41 PM
I would think that most mod pages be blocked from editing mostly. I think way to much people pick on Fifth and Fenris as it is.
Then who would we make fun of?
I get the vague feeling that making fun of shiney and Kurosen would metaphorically be kicking myself in the nuts. RaiRai and Meister are both too nice to make fun of. I know next to nothing about Mashirosen and Crodevillian. The RaiRO mods are too RaiROish. And Krylo scares me.
I mean, who else is there to make fun of?
Then who would we make fun of?
I get the vague feeling that making fun of shiney and Kurosen would metaphorically be kicking myself in the nuts. RaiRai and Meister are both too nice to make fun of. I know next to nothing about Mashirosen and Crodevillian. The RaiRO mods are too RaiROish. And Krylo scares me.
I mean, who else is there to make fun of?
There's always Fenris Kidding dude. You're awesome:D
The SSB Intern
01-21-2008, 08:45 PM
I like the idea. My article would probably describe as Scruffy the janitor. That is, if I get one.
Edit: Holy crap, I joined before Fenris?
Ha! Scared of Krylo. What's he gonna do, nibble your bum?
That's exactly what he'll do.
*shiver* I'm scared...
Death by Stabbing
01-21-2008, 08:48 PM
I think this is an interesting idea but...
(oh no, here comes the kill joy)
...Rather than making people more familiar with NPF, it might alienate people. Not necessarily like the rep thing, but it becomes somewhat elitest "oh, you're not on the wiki" and then, like the, "write about people you like" threads, people feel bad because nobody thought of THEM.
Plus, what kind of things are we going to write about each other anyway?
/Killjoy
Yeah that's a good point...there are a lot of long standing members of NPF that don't get any respect around here *cough*
XD
Anyways yeah that would suck but it's almost inevitable that people would have pages...though I think the idea of other people writing them would keep them objective to some degree
Also if anyone cares I'd be willing to keep the wiki in line or whatever those people are called...anyways yeah I'd do that...
If you have a post within the last 15 days or so, I'll make sure there's an article on you. (Or if you're out of the forum for a bit) This of course doesn't apply to people who already will have articles by the time I arrive.
We could just always make a wiki about why the French blow. Hell, I might just do that myself.
You know, they were thinking of making a french version of Resistance: Fall of Man, but it was just five minutes long, and only contained a sentence:
We surrender!
But seriously, is this a place where my webcomics will be appreciated?
POS Industries
01-21-2008, 09:41 PM
But seriously, is this a place where my webcomics will be appreciated?
Hahahahahahhhhhhh naw.
Death by Stabbing
01-21-2008, 09:47 PM
So when is this Wiki going up anyways? If we're doing it I mean.
Bells
01-21-2008, 09:56 PM
this is 100% innapropried but is it wrong that everytime anyone says anything "Wiki" i keep hearing that Will Smith song from Wild Wild West?
Anyway, if the idea of making pages about certain people is not Ok with most (i mean we can still mention these people on several occasion and articles if they are relevant..) then, at least we could build a little "Quote library" within the Wiki with quotes from various members
Death by Stabbing
01-21-2008, 09:59 PM
this is 100% innapropried but is it wrong that everytime anyone says anything "Wiki" i keep hearing that Will Smith song from Wild Wild West?
Anyway, if the idea of making pages about certain people is not Ok with most (i mean we can still mention these people on several occasion and articles if they are relevant..) then, at least we could build a little "Quote library" within the Wiki with quotes from various members
ooh! Even better! We can jump in new members by making them sift through pages and pages of people's quotes and until they find good ones they can't have some privilages or something...I don't know...it sounded good/funny in my head...
Frostatine
01-21-2008, 10:18 PM
Question will there be any punishment for adding information to articles that although terrible, funny and in bad taste is altogether possibly not a lie?
Because in this whole thing I am just a lowly messenger of Truth.
Plus, making fun of Fifth is America's favorite passtime (if you're suicidal).
ooh! Even better! We can jump in new members by making them sift through pages and pages of people's quotes and until they find good ones they can't have some privilages or something...I don't know...it sounded good/funny in my head...
It would get them used to the sense of humor that NPF employs and encourages (or at least what we don't discourage). Ha, I just said something serious there. Naw, I just can't wait to take a crack at Fifth, Fenny and especially Krylo no one in particular.
Major Blood
01-21-2008, 10:46 PM
Why would you want your innermost secrets revealed?
You're all fools. All of you.
EVILNess
01-21-2008, 10:55 PM
Sounds cool, but I have a few suggestions...
Do all the non-member articles first. IE Yodog, the inside jokes, Otaku San, maybe the Mod's pages...
Then open a thread asking people if they want to be in the Wiki. Take like 5 names at a time on a first come first serve basis, or maybe throw everyone who wants to be in the wiki into a big pot and draw names, ultimately who cares how you chose, but do it with some basic criteria for being chosen, because we can't be making articles for every new kid on the block who just decided he wants his 15 seconds of internet fame.
Then have a poll, with the winner getting his page made first, the guy in second next, the guy in third after that, etc. Personally I could give a rats behind if everyone wants to do, for example, Mauve's page instead of mine, and I don't think there will be much complaining and hurt feelings here if its a community project. The trick here is to balance the participation with what needs to be handled by one guy.
Then after you have your people you open a thread asking for things to put into the article, that way everyone gets to participate and it can be screened by both mods and the people doing the article for inappropriate comments.
Then repeat until you need to pick more people, etc...
The Wizard Who Did It
01-21-2008, 10:57 PM
Why would you want your innermost secrets revealed?
You're all fools. All of you.
If my innermost secrets had to do with this forum, they deserve to be spilled.
Now my innermost secret BEING this forum is another story...
But seriously, is this a place where my webcomics will be appreciated?
I've always appreciated them!^^
FenrisWolf
01-21-2008, 10:59 PM
I've always appreciated them!^^
Get out.
EVILNess
01-21-2008, 11:05 PM
DFM's profile should consist entirely of a certain picture of a little girl and a duck eating ice-cream and a link to his comic.
Mirai Gen
01-22-2008, 04:01 AM
Okay it seems like enough people are totally behind it, I'm going to go ahead and start the ball rolling.
I'll start to lay out some ground rules and when the wiki goes up I'll have started a few pages. I need some time to think about it because, well...
It's difficult to describe exactly what counts as 'forum wang' for something like this. If someone changes my profile to say "Mirai Gen is a pasty white nerd who calls himself a writer and, by the way, is way too into Transformers," I'm probably going to laugh about it. If we get fifty hojillion edits to Fifthfiend's page that are all describing ascending levels of 'how SUPER COOL HE IS' I think some intermission is probably going to be in order.
I will, however, keep close tabs on it and if someone has a problem with any article I urge them to PM me.
And yes, when this thing first goes live I'm going to put up a "Do Not Post" list at NPF and lock out articles for anyone who requests it. I'll either make another thread or I'll just change first post.
Also: Everyone, please try to have fun with this.
EDIT: Request sent. If they deny, we'll just copy the code and send it to Parker Comics.
Osterbaum
01-22-2008, 07:34 AM
God help us all.
And by us all, I mean me.
And by god, I mean the internet.
And by that I don't know what I mean.
But yeah, I'm all for this idea as long as I wont have to tire myself too much with writing.
So what I'm saying is, in order to make this thing worth our while we actually DO need to write stuff in there and put atleast SOME time to what we're writing.
Lord of Joshelplex
01-22-2008, 07:46 AM
A tad off topic, but seriously, who the hell is Otaku Son, or do I gotta wait till the wiki is up?
Tendronai
01-22-2008, 08:19 AM
A tad off topic, but seriously, who the hell is Otaku Son, or do I gotta wait till the wiki is up?
This thread (http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?t=11768) contains all the answers. And also deserves it's own page on the wiki.
Bells
01-22-2008, 10:08 AM
I'll put up a page about myself explaing about my awesome grammar, and i dont mind people editing it, so go for it =P
YEY Wiki
Wiki wiki waw waw
Wiki wiki waw waw
Wiki wiki Wild Wild West, Jim West, desperado, rough rider
No you don't want nada
None of this, six gun in this, brotha runnin this...
Flarecobra
01-22-2008, 10:27 AM
Why not? I'd like to be in this.
Savage Thinking
01-22-2008, 10:45 AM
There'd be an article for each prominent member (Basically anyone who's not a lurker), articles for some of our jokes, and yes, there will be a Yodadog article.
Why you gotta be hatin'?
Then have a poll, with the winner getting his page made first, the guy in second next, the guy in third after that, etc.
I can totally see this going really baed...
42PETUNIAS
01-22-2008, 11:04 AM
I really think any sort of popularity contest would be the exact opposite of where everyone wants this to go. Instead, we might want to turn this thread into some form of poll, regarding whether they want the site to go up, whether they want user pages, whether they'd be willing to participate, etc.
Lord of Joshelplex
01-22-2008, 11:30 AM
I can and will participate. I have a decent level of knowledge.
I can and will participate. I have a decent level of knowldge.
But not spelling...
Khael!
01-22-2008, 11:41 AM
If this goes up, my only concern is whether it will be viewable by NPF'ers only, or open to anyone regardless of whether they signed up or not.
Other than that, I'd find it rather amusing.
mammothtank
01-22-2008, 11:44 AM
I think it sounds cool. My only concern is whether or not I'd be included. >.> I was active once upon a time, y'know.
Fifthfiend
01-22-2008, 12:18 PM
I am totally for this idea and by "for" I mean that I am going to edit everybody's entries to include all the things I secretly hate about each and every one of you.
Meister
01-22-2008, 12:20 PM
"secretly"
I am totally for this idea and by "for" I mean that I am going to edit all of your entries to include everything I secretly hate about each and every one of you.
That was my plan but looking at it objectively you'd be able to pull it off better because people will see your edits and think "Oh that wacky fifth he doesn't really mean it." whereas they would see my edits and think "That guy's a jerk."
Fifthfiend
01-22-2008, 12:24 PM
On a more serious note I want it clear that if and when this thing happens my propensity for banning any and everybody involved with it will be directly proportionate to 1. the degree to which it becomes a sinkhole of elitism / bad-attitudes / boringly painful unfunniness / people telling me how they're the kings and queens of the Wiki and I can't tell them what to do ever again so there! / TEH DRAMMAZ and 2. the extent to which it is about me.
Ideally my entry would be nothing more than like:
FIFTHFIEND:
He moderates a spritecomic webforum now go talk about something that's actually interesting you fuckers.
The Wizard Who Did It
01-22-2008, 12:38 PM
This thread (http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?t=11768) contains all the answers. And also deserves it's own page on the wiki.
Again, references section. That one should be linked to a lot. =P
Also, my thought of the individual people sections would be more of an NPFing history. As in, just a history of their posting record, significant things they've done (for the mods this would be easy). It's probably hard to define significant, but then again look at some of the things on wikipedia. Also, possibly the sections some people frequent and certain aspects about them (Mirai likes Transformers and is an SSBM pro guys).
And then going along with the general tone of this... work probably some jokes at said person's expense.
Fifthfiend
01-22-2008, 12:44 PM
"secretly"
It's actually a much longer list than the things I publicly hate about everybody.
FIFTHFIEND:
He moderates a spritecomic webforum now go talk about something that's actually interesting you fuckers.
More or less... probably "less"
Any and all words in quotations may be assumed to mean their exact opposite.
Lord of Joshelplex
01-22-2008, 01:24 PM
Man Otaku Son is possibly the greatest man to grace the internet, except by greatest, I mean creepy.
Death by Stabbing
01-22-2008, 02:13 PM
That was my plan but looking at it objectively you'd be able to pull it off better because people will see your edits and think "Oh that wacky fifth he doesn't really mean it." whereas they would see my edits and think "That guy's a jerk."
A loveable jerk though!...who doesn't update his comic...ok maybe just a jerk...XD
Mff, bgkh, BWAHAHAHA! That "Otaku's last stand" thing was too great. It's pretty hard to believe that's actually real. Definetly in the wiki. Some people's undoing is just annoying or depressing all around (Iyeru, creepy even after his banning), but his defiance to the end is the best. Krylo, you're now a +5 kickass mod in my eyes.
Death by Stabbing
01-22-2008, 02:17 PM
Mff, bgkh, BWAHAHAHA! That "Otaku's last stand" thing was too great. It's pretty hard to believe that's actually real. Definetly in the wiki. Some people's undoing is just annoying or depressing all around (Iyeru, creepy even after his banning), but his defiance to the end is the best. Krylo, you're now a +5 kickass mod in my eyes.
Oh it was real...I was there! I just didn't post or anything...it was back during a lurking phase of mine...Also I don't think anything I could have said would have made it better...long story short...it's real and Otaku was as big a douchebag as they come...
Frostatine
01-22-2008, 02:34 PM
I think the only thing that Fifth hates about me is the utter lack of things he hates about me. At least, until he reads this post. Then, he'll hate me because of how right I am, and the paradox I have created will obliterate Nuklepedia and Otaku makes me laugh I gotta go read more of that.
42PETUNIAS
01-22-2008, 02:54 PM
I think the only thing that Fifth hates about me is the utter lack of things he hates about me.
You underestimate him. Drastically.
Also, since this didn't seem to get linked directly, here's more Otaku (http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?t=5350) goodness.
Mirai Gen
01-22-2008, 03:02 PM
On a more serious note I want it clear that if and when this thing happens my propensity for banning any and everybody involved with it will be directly proportionate to 1. the degree to which it becomes a sinkhole of elitism / bad-attitudes / boringly painful unfunniness / people telling me how they're the kings and queens of the Wiki and I can't tell them what to do ever again so there! / TEH DRAMMAZ and 2. the extent to which it is about me.
Ideally my entry would be nothing more than like:
Well I said it before, but I'll say it again;
If anyone's article will be the first to get locked out due to ridiculous edits, it'll probably be yours. If only because I know how much you hate the whole "12th Annual How Much We Love Fifthfiend" threads that used to be so common.
Hell if you want me to I can make that your article and lock it out myself.
I hadn't actually read the Otaku Son stuff before, but...
Its actually kind of sad that his behavior and the way he talked kind of reminded me of myself years and years ago. I mean, its kind of sad for him that he reminds me of myself when I was, like, ten years old, but...I'm ashamed.
That said, those threads are hilarious (Now, at least) and Krylo gets a hug.
Anyway. Do we really want to give him more attention? I'd say there is a pretty good chance he still surfs the forums, and we don't really want to flatter him with the attention of giving him his own Wiki article. Feeding a troll, I believe its called. I mean, it would be heavily belated, but...
Smarty McBarrelpants
01-22-2008, 03:09 PM
I'm thinking we could probably avoid a lot of problems if we avoid pages on individual users. That way can just focus on forum wide phenonemnon which shouldn't cause any elitism/wang.
I reckon articles about larger things will be funnier anyway and will be more helpful to newcomers who are lost about things people are referencing.
Maybe we could make individual user-pages only available to registered members, and the forum pages open to anyone. Like the community forum used to be.
And the user pages could be less serious, to make people laugh after they settle in and understand the inside jokes, and also to be helpful and explain what people do and how they act, what comics and other things they make (stories, etc). And we should at least have pages for the mods and admins.
Mirai Gen
01-22-2008, 03:17 PM
I dunno, to me Otaku Son bashing has been an integral part of NPF's history as of late, like the EZWhores days.
I'm not saying that you require 'NPF Cred' to be a full member here, I'm just saying that NPF is old.
But yeah I don't think troll feeding extends to people if they've already been banned.
Yeah, maybe. It might encourage him to sign up again if he sees people still think about him. Or...something...
Nevermind. You're right, Mirai.
Smarty McBarrelpants
01-22-2008, 03:40 PM
Well things like the Otaku Son incident would be more part of NPF history than a user with that name, because he's not really a member anymore.
And telling his story best requires talking about the response as well. I think it's better not as a thread about a user but about the user and the response to him.
Frostatine
01-22-2008, 03:47 PM
Its kind of scary, the thought that those terrible sad excuses for people that end up latching themselves onto the NPF are always in the background...watching...waiting.
They'll probably end up making a facebook group or something and write poetry about how unfair our rules are and how much of a $#!%(@(% Shiney is and how much they love Krylo.
Either way, they can't hurt us and any satisfaction they derive from our attention pretty much doesn't exist.
You know, the whole "if a tree falls in the forest and nobody is around to hear it does it make a sound?" thing.
Death by Stabbing
01-22-2008, 04:29 PM
I'm thinking we could probably avoid a lot of problems if we avoid pages on individual users. That way can just focus on forum wide phenonemnon which shouldn't cause any elitism/wang.
I reckon articles about larger things will be funnier anyway and will be more helpful to newcomers who are lost about things people are referencing.
That's a good point
We could use people's names as a hub of sorts to link to other articles of their humor...like say some one reads about the classic "Or in Shiny's case do both while your mother is a whore" Quote and they think "Boy that's funny what else has this guy said" and they click on Viper's name and they can get to any other insidents he was involved in
Not doing this would kind of drastically reduce what a wiki (wiki wild wild west) can do...the whole point is so you can just click on links and get to a new thing...so I think in the case of a hub use of names is ok
Though it would be fun to have individual sections on people...the drama...oh the drama it would create would be tantamount to a disaster...so it's wise to hold off on that aspect.
Where/when was that, anyway?
Death by Stabbing
01-22-2008, 04:32 PM
Where/when was that, anyway?
What the famous Viper Quote?
Many moons before you joined...hell I think it might have even been before I joined...
Bailey
01-22-2008, 04:42 PM
What did the site say the wait time would be like?
We could use people's names as a hub of sorts to link to other articles of their humor...like say some one reads about the classic "Or in Shiny's case do both while your mother is a whore" Quote and they think "Boy that's funny what else has this guy said" and they click on Viper's name and they can get to any other insidents he was involved in
I don't say anything neat. (UU) The best I've said was over TS when I said "I can't see anything through the giant AoE that is Raguel." Am I just going to have to link to specific pics?
FenrisWolf
01-22-2008, 05:11 PM
Maybe if you used words other than webcomics you might be quoted more.
But Fenris they're totally hilarious and also applicable.
Mr.Bookworm
01-22-2008, 05:20 PM
I think Seil's article should be made entirely out of webcomics.
No words, nuthin.
Mirai Gen
01-22-2008, 05:21 PM
I think a better idea, rather than just having an article that talks about how funny a person is or something, we can just have the page be about the person in a short sort of way, and then the rest of the article can be quotes from the person with links to the post.
That way we're doing less "Shove their humor down the reader's throat cause we like them so much" and more "See? They're hilarious."
Although that would be a problem with Seil. How do you quote images...?
EDIT: Hah! Cut and paste like a 1970s ransom letter, except from webcomics.
Loyal
01-22-2008, 05:37 PM
I'm interested in this. I am curious as to how things would be written that pertains to certain "alternate" characteristics of individual forumites; Such as Chicago's "Negative" side, or my "Nexus" character. Just let the original writers handle it or what?
Also I'm still unclear as to what extent a NPF member is allowed to write in their own entry.
If anyone makes my page, I want them to use my current Trilby avatar as the main picture of me. Only the full picture. Couldn't care whatever else you twats put about me. Trilby fucking rocks.
http://www.sandara.net/2005/cg/trilby.jpg
I'm interested in this. I am curious as to how things would be written that pertains to certain "alternate" characteristics of individual forumites; Such as Chicago's "Negative" side, or my "Nexus" character
Or +1 Name, etc.
So, is this all really happening? Shouldn't we set up the rules before we try to get the page approved?
Bells
01-22-2008, 06:24 PM
i would like to point out thatwe still didnt mentioned about any guidelines for talking about people on articles...
I mean, ok, i might not do a page about Mirai Gen, but what if i want to talk about him when i add something on the "Creativity Convention" article?
Also, we need to track down the "post funny shit" topic name changes
FenrisWolf
01-22-2008, 06:41 PM
I can do that, Bellsouth, there's a log in the forum database. One second.
Fifthfiend's Mondo Funky Thread for the Profane and Immoral
NuklearPower Forum's Colon Post Links for Funny
Threads of the Carribean: At Funny's End
Funnytastic Four: Rise of the Linksing Threader
link free or FUNNY HARD
Hilarity Potter and the Threadly Fallows
Threadsident Evil: Linkstinction
Go watch the videos Cruz linked in post 630, they're fuckin' crazy
Dude seriously Fencer what the hell
You shouldn't make fun of GI Joe PSAs those are half of the entire battle you know
It's Good to See Flare Adjusting To Civilian Life With No Major Problems At All
I was gonna mention Neko's video then I was like oh snap he ain't Neko no mo
Sponsorship provided by the good people at Roliana dot com
This Thread No Longer Available Due To A Copyright Claim By Viacom International Inc.
Bizzaro Phoenix Wright say This Thread Am Funny And Great!
There is absolutely no excuse for having a rap about a mini mall
Warning: May Contain Anna Kournikova
Hey Early-90s RPG Commercials, WTF?
A Bleak Portrait Of The Human Condition
Yakuza, Ninjas, Tempura, Sushi, Chainsaws, Flying Guillotine, and a Drill Bra
Look Elephants Are Pretty Dang Big That's All I'm Sayin'
Join the fight against women's suffrage!
Curse you Archbio, you've thwarted me again!
Brought to you by: People who have much more power than you do
The Musical Stylings Of William Shatner
Regulus Tera
01-22-2008, 06:58 PM
I was gonna mention Neko's video then I was like oh snap he ain't Neko no mo
How come I didn't see that one and which video was he talking 'bout?
9. Dude seriously Fencer what the hell
Where'd that one come from?
Might I also suggest an article about the never-released awesome-filled NPF Avatar DVD boxset? That should be worthy of a mention.
Fifthfiend
01-22-2008, 07:02 PM
Also, we need to track down the "post funny shit" topic name changes
I like to think of it as "The Thread".
Where'd that one come from?
That's what I'm saying!
Loyal
01-22-2008, 07:03 PM
I believe the Fencer one was in response to something regarding Deadpool and/or that Liefield comic-artist guy who puts, "Muscles on the muscles, which are adorned with muscles themselves", and a generous excess of superhero pouches.
bluestarultor
01-22-2008, 07:32 PM
I don't see why a bio and quotes should be mutually exclusive. I have yet to see myself quoted in a signature. I do, however, post a lot of other things worth mentioning, like my plugging Paint.NET or just non-humorous replies.
Or at least they're not funny. My sense of humor is... unique.
Vault Of Thrones
01-22-2008, 08:33 PM
We need a quotes section, for all the great things that people say.
And if we do individual user pages we should have an avatar/title/sig history part in it.
FenrisWolf
01-22-2008, 09:19 PM
We need a quotes section, for all the great things that people say.
And if we do individual user pages we should have an avatar/title/sig history part in it.
I don't think anybody pays that much attention.
Lady Cygnet
01-22-2008, 09:25 PM
I'm all for the wiki, and I'd be glad to donate my services as a copy editor/proofreader, but considering (almost) everyone's superior grammar, spelling, and punctuation, my services probably wouldn't be necessary.
:p
bluestarultor
01-22-2008, 09:31 PM
We need a quotes section, for all the great things that people say.
And if we do individual user pages we should have an avatar/title/sig history part in it.
I'll have all of my own back hopefully in the next few days. Along with all of my sprites and other stuff.
If the dang site I bought the laptop-to-external hard drive converter at is legit. I need to see about checking my tracking order to see if it comes up with non-garbage yet. :shifty:
Edit: Okay, totally cool. :D
Death by Stabbing
01-22-2008, 09:42 PM
I'm all for the wiki, and I'd be glad to donate my services as a copy editor/proofreader, but considering (almost) everyone's superior grammar, spelling, and punctuation, my services probably wouldn't be necessary.
:p
Actually without Firefox mine might not be so good...I mean I can find thing in other people's writing that aren't English/grammatically correct/punctuated improperly/etc. But have a harder time with my own...hmmm
So when is this Wiki (wiki wild wild west) going on line? I want to see a link, damn it! Give me funny! XD
Sorry if I'm late. >.< I fully support this idea. expect me to make a few posts about a few people, if this so happens to come to fruit.
I may enjoy this. And I agree with Death. Where is the linky? Me need a funny danmmit!
Regulus Tera
01-22-2008, 10:26 PM
Something that just popped into my mind: are we going to limit this to the forums or are we going to expand it into Nuklear Age, 8-bit Theater and Atomic Robo? Considering Wikipedia is all professional research only, this would be a great place for in-depth stuff, ŕ la Bulbapedia.
Death by Stabbing
01-22-2008, 11:30 PM
Well 8-bit is already on Wiki(wiki wild wild west)pedia...so why would we need to make one? and we can assume Nuklear Age and Atomic Robo are there too...and we can also assume that even though we are making this for noobs on the forums (and for our own entertainment), that anyone interested in joining the forums would have at least a passing knowledge of either NA, 8-bit, or Robo...
Regulus Tera
01-22-2008, 11:33 PM
Pretty much for the same reason there are Star Wars and Star Trek dedicated wikis. Wikipedia doesn't allow for much more than publicated stuff, and everything else (like minor characters' backstories or Pokémon stats) is covered by these fansites.
TheSpacePope
01-22-2008, 11:39 PM
This sounds like a ridiculous amount of fun.
I'm in.
Frostatine
01-22-2008, 11:40 PM
I'm in, I guess I have to make it official seeing as I never really said I was.
Is there any work that is going to be required on my part in the construction? I understand that I may be in charge of my own article, but is there anything else?
Lord of Joshelplex
01-23-2008, 12:03 AM
I just hope I can edit from school, they hate wikis there. Block em as soon as they see em.
Regulus Tera
01-23-2008, 12:28 AM
The thing should be called Nukiepedia, by the way. It has meaning and rolls better of the tongue.
bananarama
01-23-2008, 12:59 AM
The thing should be called Nukiepedia, by the way. It has meaning and rolls better of the tongue.
"Nukiepedia"???? Doesn't it sound more... "elementary schooler"-y? I don't know about you, but I think that's counterproductive towards the "SERIOUS BUSINESS" image we've been building up for years AMIRITE?
Regulus Tera
01-23-2008, 01:13 AM
You haven't read Nuklear Age am I right?
bananarama
01-23-2008, 01:33 AM
You haven't read Nuklear Age am I right?
...... No D= (Oh god please don't tell me "Nukiepedia" is some inside joke from there that I have never heard about and as such makes me look like a dumbass...)
Probably but that's just a guess.
Regulus Tera
01-23-2008, 02:41 AM
...... No D= (Oh god please don't tell me "Nukiepedia" is some inside joke from there that I have never heard about and as such makes me look like a dumbass...)
I won't tell you then.
Hatake Kakashi
01-23-2008, 02:54 AM
I'm loving this idea.... count me in.
Mirai Gen
01-23-2008, 03:15 AM
Okay okay slow down, answering some questions one at a time:
DBS: Yeah it's going to cover 8bit Theatre and Nuklear Age and Atomic Robo too. This is seriously "The Wiki for Everything Nuklear Powered," wrapping up all the newsposters, the articles current or old that are on the main page like Evil Princess Sara and the old Twinkin' Out, etc etc etc.
I figure it'll give the wiki a bit more of a 'firm grasp' if there's more to update on a regular basis other than "haha this poster said something funny" every week or so. Giving constant updates with anything Kurosen puts out will keep everyone more interested.
The thing should be called Nukiepedia, by the way. It has meaning and rolls better of the tongue.
Having realized this myself I feel like it could go either way, but I already submitted the request so we're stuck with Nuklepedia.
Shouldn't we set up the rules before we try to get the page approved?
Not necessarily - I still have to come up with them, so we've got time before the page goes up. And I'll work on it a bit before I unveil it, you know, 'prep it up'. To be clear, though:
The first rule about Nuklepedia is that you do not use it as a forum wang.
The second rule about Nuklepedia; you do not use it as a forum wang.
Rules three through whatever to follow.
I mean, ok, i might not do a page about Mirai Gen, but what if i want to talk about him when i add something on the "Creativity Convention" article?
It's Wikipedia - you talk a bit about something I've done in Creativity Convention with the first use of my name linking to my article. You can talk about it, just try not to go into depth and let the "Mirai Gen" article do the real in depth description.
I like to think of it as "The Thread".
As it was written, so it shall be.
I hereby dub the funny links thread as "The Thread" for the purposes of Nuklepedia.
We need a quotes section, for all the great things that people say.
And if we do individual user pages we should have an avatar/title/sig history part in it.
If you really want to do quotes, put the funny person quotes on the article of the user.
If there's more than one user we can probably just make a "Multi-person funny quotes" article, and let's all try to keep it from being a moderator-free Bash.org.
I'm all for the wiki, and I'd be glad to donate my services as a copy editor/proofreader, but considering (almost) everyone's superior grammar, spelling, and punctuation, my services probably wouldn't be necessary.
Hey we're all not always going to be there all at once, and you might be funnier than the next guy. Try to pitch in anyway - it's a silly Wiki, don't worry about the amount of work.
Frostatine
01-23-2008, 07:39 AM
I think NPedia sounds cooler.
But that's just me.
Also, thanks for all the info mirai you're definitely getting a fancy article by me when I get a chance.
Patrat
01-23-2008, 09:00 AM
My Idea was Patratapedia.
But that's just dumb...
Bells
01-23-2008, 09:58 AM
How about pictures? Should we do something to avoide or allow pictures and photos of users?
Lord of Joshelplex
01-23-2008, 10:18 AM
Obviously, really notable forumites will need their profile to contain their avatar, like Meister and his Disco guy, or Kurosen and his Tau.
Nikose Tyris
01-23-2008, 10:36 AM
If there's more than one user we can probably just make a "Multi-person funny quotes" article, and let's all try to keep it from being a moderator-free Bash.org.
hahaha you're cute when you're obviously intoxicated. It'll be moderated.
Couple things I'm compiling here:
1) If a user wants for no pages to contain him- fine. We will ensure he isn't in.
2) do we need to set up a unique domain name or are we going to leech of parkercomics cause we know that idiot is always willing to give free space?
3) Does anyone know how to actually SET UP a wiki?
4) No insults. keep stories 3rd person. any insults/flames/trolling found, will have IP's logged, possibly banned, and since this will tie directly to NPF, possible punishment here, depending on whichever mod it gets presented to.
5) Selfish gets a page devoted to her hats, since her hats are awesome.
6) RaiRO. How will it relate? I'm of the opinion that it ties into NPF, so it's included, but I can see how this might get up for debate.
Just spittin' that out there. Anyone agree/disagree/fuck you nikose you suck?
edit: PS: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DokuWiki This wiki software seems to be the best for what Mirai and I were talkin' about, and this is something that we could set up on a private domain name since I still have like 6 I can establish at no cost to me beyond what I already have set up for you ungrateful fuckers curteous gentlemen.
42PETUNIAS
01-23-2008, 10:55 AM
How about pictures? Should we do something to avoide or allow pictures and photos of users?
Avatars will probably be universally included, but things from the camwhore thread would probably be a bad idea to post, so the general rule should probably be that if anyone wants their picture there, they can add it themselves.
Edit
Yeah it's going to cover 8bit Theatre and Nuklear Age and Atomic Robo too. This is seriously "The Wiki for Everything Nuklear Powered," wrapping up all the newsposters, the articles current or old that are on the main page like Evil Princess Sara and the old Twinkin' Out, etc etc etc.
If that's the case, maybe we should try and get a link from the main site? Since it'll include non-forum activities, we can probably expand it to include people not expressly from the forum.
However, on that note, it might be a good idea to add some sort of password to the wiki, nothing special, but just something that anyone with a forum account can see, so we don't have random surfers showing up and messing with it.
In response for Nikose:
1) done. let no one else bring it up.
2) see below
3) there are things like wikisite.org (now disbanded for some reason) that allow you to make a wiki... site. usually the domain for the site is something like _____.wiki.com, which sounds fine
4) the internet. serious buisness
5) sure, whatever.
6) if you know funny stuff from RaiRO, you should be able to put it in, but "and then there was this one time..." should totally be banned. no one cares about 95% of what happens in the game, it's mostly the disscussions that are funny. Just my thoughts
shiney
01-23-2008, 11:09 AM
Why don't you quit planning and just throw up a wiki thing and say "have at it". As was posed by someone else, this thing will collapse under its own weight unless it just happens.
I mean honestly there's this tendency at this forum to have decent ideas, and then try to plan them to such a fucking meticulous degree that they die a silent or in some cases remarkable death as a result of bloating and eventual lack of interest or motivation.
Just do it already. Quit fucking around with rules and just goddamn make it.
Nikose Tyris
01-23-2008, 11:12 AM
Kay. Mirai and I will get it underway.
Loyal
01-23-2008, 11:15 AM
I... honestly never expected shiney to say something like that. Not the "sod the rules" part, specifically, but the whole post.
Might I suggest that, for users prominent both in comics and forum activity, that there be some separate notation of both (on the same page, of course, just seperated)? I know a lot of the people on this forum have very different behaviors between their forum-posting, and what their character does in comics.
Bailey
01-23-2008, 11:17 AM
We're waiting for the site that Mirai sent the application to to say "okay, yeah, sure, you fuckers can have your damn wiki".
We're filling up the boredom with rules.
I hereby declare that rule 12 be "You shall talk about fight club until you start a fight by doing so, at which point you will shout about fight club"
42PETUNIAS
01-23-2008, 11:20 AM
Might I suggest that, for users prominent both in comics and forum activity, that there be some separate notation of both (on the same page, of course, just seperated)? I know a lot of the people on this forum have very different behaviors between their forum-posting, and what their character does in comics.
Is that really necessary to make a policy about that? I mean, it's your page, do with it what you will.
heh heh
wikisite is actually wiki-site.com
my bad
Meister
01-23-2008, 11:20 AM
If that's the case, maybe we should try and get a link from the main site? Since it'll include non-forum activities, we can probably expand it to include people not expressly from the forum.
However, on that note, it might be a good idea to add some sort of password to the wiki, nothing special, but just something that anyone with a forum account can see, so we don't have random surfers showing up and messing with it.
I'd like to keep it to forum members regarding Brian's writing, because I have a regular look at the articles on Wikipedia and this way when someone gets the bright idea of listing every sprite pose of every character ever, with references, over here, then I can at least put a name to him and tell him to get his obvious OCD looked at to his face.
EDIT: and edit his entry to say he has OCD.
Nikose Tyris
01-23-2008, 11:23 AM
Question at mods:
Should we start a new thread for people to be recruited for tossing in content or use this thread? site will be up in 24 hours or less.
Meister
01-23-2008, 11:27 AM
Nothing wrong with this one.
shiney
01-23-2008, 11:55 AM
Can I ask that there is no "funny quotes" section because we all know it's going to be 90% fifthfiend and 10% crap.
Which is to say, 100% crap.
Yeah, the funny quotes should just be on each persons page.
Bailey
01-23-2008, 12:01 PM
And, since Fifthfiend's page will be locked, this will hopefully get rid of 90% of the crap.
shiney
01-23-2008, 12:05 PM
Screw fifthfiend.
Bailey
01-23-2008, 12:10 PM
Screw fifthfiend.Oh! The quote somehow relates to Fifthfiend! IT MUST GO IN THE WIKI!
Fifthfiend
01-23-2008, 12:11 PM
I vote we have an entire page of quotes about Shiney going and getting fucked.
Because Shiney can go get fucked.
Nikose Tyris
01-23-2008, 12:18 PM
Domain is registered, setting up the files now.
it will be at www.nuklearpedia.com by Meister's choice because he was online and didn't want to make a poll. Blame him.
Domain is still "under construction" and as such you will probably either get a 404 error or an auto-redirect to parkercomics because that's how my domains work. The Wiki is being installed now.
shiney
01-23-2008, 12:20 PM
Questions:
- Do you have your own webserver for this? As in a colocated machine which is not just free webspace or purchased space on someone else's machine?
- Is the software provided by a third party or do we have our own wiki software?
I apologize if these questions have been answered already but there's a lot of posts and I am at work.
Edit: fifthfiend there will be a huge section about me going and getting fucked, by your mother all night every night.
Fifthfiend
01-23-2008, 12:22 PM
Domain is registered, setting up the files now.
it will be at www.nuklearpedia.com by Meister's choice because he was online and didn't want to make a poll. Blame him.
Domain is still "under construction" and as such you will probably either get a 404 error or an auto-redirect to parkercomics because that's how my domains work. The Wiki is being installed now.
I get neither of those, instead receiving a notice that Internet Explorer cannot find the web-page!
I AM CALLIN' YOU A LIAR.
Bailey
01-23-2008, 12:24 PM
Questions:
- Do you have your own webserver for this? As in a colocated machine which is not just free webspace or purchased space on someone else's machine?
- Is the software provided by a third party or do we have our own wiki software?
I apologize if these questions have been answered already but there's a lot of posts and I am at work.
Edit: fifthfiend there will be a huge section about me going and getting fucked, by your mother all night every night.
Software is third party, and I think that the webserver is on Nikose's computer, although I might be totally wrong.
Nikose Tyris
01-23-2008, 12:24 PM
It's purchased webspace, but it's big and it's sturdy and it's with 1and1 and they've yet to really fuck me over. It's on the parkercomics server with 1and1.
The software is custom wiki software- Dokuwiki, because it's written in PHP and it's open source and free and it's stable. I'm not 100% but I beleive dokuwiki got bundled into the last Fedora update and it's definitely a very popular open source wiki.
And really it's registered and the bill is covered by me just like the NPF comics archive fifth.
Edit: http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/3213/ungratefulgw6.th.png (http://img257.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ungratefulgw6.png)
PS Do not make fun of me for making a www.transfomers-rid.net, I can't help my typos. I'm re-registering that now that I see why it sucks so hard.
shiney
01-23-2008, 12:45 PM
The reason I ask is I own a webserver which is hosted through a datacenter by ProphetX and is either free or very inexpensive. Whatever you're paying, we could probably beat the price, and you'd be in-house to boot.
Whatevs.
Nikose Tyris
01-23-2008, 12:46 PM
The reason I ask is I own a webserver which is hosted through a datacenter by ProphetX and is either free or very inexpensive. Whatever you're paying, we could probably beat the price, and you'd be in-house to boot.
Whatevs.
See that sounds better to me but in the end it'll be up to you guys I can just transfer the domain name to you if you want. I'm only helping out with Mirai's idea, so finally call is the community's and his, not mine.
Mirai Gen
01-23-2008, 02:05 PM
Shiney; I hadn't known there was independently released Wiki data you could just upload to a server - I had been waiting for the wiki site to tell me "Yeah go ahead". Doyy.
Nikose: Awesome. And honestly nobody on the forum is really going to be able to notice a difference as to who hosts it - it's your call. The main reason I called you up is because I figured you'd be up for it since you're part of NPF too.
It's totally your call.
EDIT: Just get on MSN you fucker.
42PETUNIAS
01-23-2008, 02:08 PM
Well, it sends you to Nikose's main site now. Not really sure whether that means anything though.
shiney
01-23-2008, 02:11 PM
No bigs, whateva. Let me know and we can sort something out.
Frostatine
01-23-2008, 02:15 PM
Yeah, I got that too. I guess nuklearpedia was just too good of an idea to be made real. Kinda like Reading Rainbow Flakes, the hip new cereal based on the award nominated tv show.
42PETUNIAS
01-23-2008, 02:17 PM
...
Huh?
I mean, all that means is that Nikose has registered the domain, but not actually built the site. Not that the project failed or anything.
Mauve Mage
01-23-2008, 02:24 PM
How about pictures? Should we do something to avoide or allow pictures and photos of users? Hmm, I personally don't think pictures are necessary, and I don't think I'd want mine up, but if people want them in their profiles, I think it should be a rule that we'd need to get permission from individual members before putting their photos up.
Fifthfiend
01-23-2008, 02:34 PM
Hmm, I personally don't think pictures are necessary, and I don't think I'd want mine up, but if people want them in their profiles, I think it should be a rule that we'd need to get permission from individual members before putting their photos up.
Except for POS as his image is already in the public domain (http://www.thestencil.com/archives/images/giantburger.jpg).
Except for POS as his image is already in the public domain.
Heheheh.
Anyway, Mauve's picture should be up because she is adorable (http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showpost.php?p=714786&postcount=293).
Mirai Gen
01-23-2008, 03:01 PM
Yeah, I got that too. I guess nuklearpedia was just too good of an idea to be made real. Kinda like Reading Rainbow Flakes, the hip new cereal based on the award nominated tv show.
The domain is registered but he's still busy building it.
The idea hasn't died yet bud.
Mauve Mage
01-23-2008, 03:15 PM
Anyway, Mauve's picture should be up because she is adorable. No. I've already decided to stop posting pics in the Camwhore thread because it's no longer blocked from unregistered viewers and it makes me kind of uncomfortable. There's no way I'm putting any pics up on Nuklearpedia.
Yes I'm paranoid. But still: No Mauve pics for Nuklearpedia.
Fifthfiend
01-23-2008, 03:17 PM
No. I've already decided to stop posting pics in the Camwhore thread because it's no longer blocked from unregistered viewers. There's no way I'm putting any pics up on Nuklearpedia.
You are aware that the camwhore thread wasn't blocked from anyone seein' for the like, four years before there was ever a community forum, right?
Hmmmm... if people particularly liked that feature of Community then I could probably switch it back and just move like, the Say Hello thread so's new folks know where that is.
Mauve Mage
01-23-2008, 03:20 PM
You don't need to change the Community forum back if no one else minds. Like I said, I'm just paranoid. It's no big deal to me, as I hardly ever post pics anyway. I don't remember if I ever posted in Camwhores prior to the move, now that you mention it, but for some reason I felt better doing it when it was members only.
I'm just saying I don't want my picture on Nuklearpedia.
Praps put the introduction in general?
Bailey
01-23-2008, 03:29 PM
Yeah, I think Community should go back to being members only.
It felt nice excluding people.
POS Industries
01-23-2008, 03:30 PM
Except for POS as his image is already in the public domain (http://www.thestencil.com/archives/images/giantburger.jpg).
Defeating that hamburger was truly my greatest victory.
Bells
01-23-2008, 03:34 PM
hell, that's what a community is all about! Excluding people who arent a part of it...
Fifthfiend
01-23-2008, 03:36 PM
I'm just saying I don't want my picture on Nuklearpedia.
But we're still good on posting your social security number, right?
Mirai Gen
01-23-2008, 03:57 PM
Credit card information, too.
Don't worry - Once this all goes live I'm going to be making a "Do Not Post" list for people and what they don't want. "No pictures", "No article," etc, and as mod I'm going to lock it out.
I think I'll draw the line at credit card numbers, but other than that, go nuts. It better be funny though. Putting lame crap on my page is unacceptable.
EDIT: Wait a minute...
Anyway, Mauve's picture should be up because she is adorable. AWW FUCK! And here I thought I was the first one with a Loki. Damn you internet!!! one upped in every way, it isn't fair I tells ya
EDIT2: Well, it seems we're getting somewhere. Now, instead of getting the error screen, I'm finally getting redirected to the Parkercomics website.
Mondt
01-23-2008, 04:41 PM
On the note of RaiRO: Since most RaiRO players don't even see the Community section on a daily basis, they could be inconsequentially, well, for lack of a better term, left out?
On the same note, for the commutors like myself, Wyndon, pictish, etc. it's still cool for like RaiRO info to be all up inz this thingz? Assuming anyone feels like messing with my page. I really don't feel like it >.>
Bells
01-23-2008, 04:54 PM
On the note of RaiRO: Since most RaiRO players don't even see the Community section on a daily basis, they could be inconsequentially, well, for lack of a better term, left out?
Heeeey what a Super-awesome way of providing them with a nice opportunity to get out of the Shadows and join us in this awesome sunny picnick that we call "up here" !
In other words: I wouldnt really mind, RaiRo is just a part of NPF. If they want to join the Wiki they can with near zero effort join it in here or on the wiki itself... im pretty sure that it wont take long before mostof them knows about it
shiney
01-23-2008, 05:59 PM
That or they just have their own wiki and we link them amongst each other. *shrug*
The Wizard Who Did It
01-23-2008, 06:21 PM
If this is supposed to be the site for general knowledge on Nuklearpower and those things relating to it (the articles therein, forums, and webcomic is what it looks like), I can only imagine RaiRO is included as well.
Patrat
01-23-2008, 06:25 PM
Did you goobers make it yet?
I want a link on the front page when you do >:O
Bells
01-23-2008, 06:39 PM
there will be a link on the frontpage, ofcouser...
OH you meant about YOU? Aaaaaaaaaah... naw.
Ya know I was thinking, When we do member profiles, why not set it up
Wiki Style. One row would Admin/Mod, second row etc etc
http://i28.tinypic.com/dnkbxy.png
And beside each persons "profile" we can use both their pic (should they allow it) and a sprite (should they have one)
http://i29.tinypic.com/2u5c2z7.png
I_Like_Swordchucks
01-23-2008, 08:32 PM
I'm afraid. If anybody has even noticed me on this forum, what would be said leaves me nervous.
42PETUNIAS
01-23-2008, 08:32 PM
Or, their, uhh.... Avatar, which would probably be the natural choice.
Death by Stabbing
01-23-2008, 08:55 PM
No. I've already decided to stop posting pics in the Camwhore thread because it's no longer blocked from unregistered viewers and it makes me kind of uncomfortable. There's no way I'm putting any pics up on Nuklearpedia.
Yes I'm paranoid. But still: No Mauve pics for Nuklearpedia.
You could always modify the pictures with a mustache or eye patch
Like so:
Vault Of Thrones
01-23-2008, 09:09 PM
I was kind of thinking that we should have pictures in the profiles that have been horribly photoshopped, it would be great.
Bells
01-23-2008, 09:16 PM
I was kind of thinking that we should have pictures in the profiles that have been horribly photoshopped, it would be great.
Huh... that would be something... if it was beyond recognition, it would be possible
Now, Sprites are ok, but maybe not avatars... i mean, most of us change them quite often...
I do suggest, however, that those who can, add to ther profile their first avatar
Sure, I've still got mine:
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/6471/russiapogobc3.jpg
Lame as hell.
FenrisWolf
01-23-2008, 10:00 PM
I deleted mine out of shame.
POS Industries
01-23-2008, 10:18 PM
I do suggest, however, that those who can, add to ther profile their first avatar
Hell no.
I do suggest, however, that those who can, add to ther profile their first avatar
I can;t remember my first one. I've had so many.
Lord of Joshelplex
01-23-2008, 10:22 PM
I remember mine, cause Im using it.
I don't even remember what my first one was either. It probably sucked.
Lord of Joshelplex
01-23-2008, 10:44 PM
This ones more memorable.
bananarama
01-23-2008, 10:49 PM
I have my first avatar (I think) or at least I remember it. It was the Link in LOZ:TP fighting that fire dungeon boss. (How I remember this? Even I don't know...)
Doppler12
01-23-2008, 10:56 PM
I feel my lack of sprite representaion to be depressing, yet, I'm terrible at making sprites, maybe I'll just rip one from FFV. I feel SO ASHAMED :(
But on topic, Me I'm cool beans when it comes to the Pic.
And yes, Mauve is adorable. The poor girl is going to end up with internet stalkers.
FenrisWolf
01-23-2008, 10:57 PM
The poor girl is going to end up with internet stalkers.
What's this "going to" bullshit?
Nikose Tyris
01-23-2008, 11:10 PM
Okay I have a life outside of NPF and I was only gone 12 hours jesus. within the next 3 hours it will point at a Placeholder image and roughly 12 hours after that there should be a wiki up but that doesn't mean you fuckers can use it yet. I'm hammering out kinks right now and that's why I didn't make it public domain.
Death by Stabbing
01-23-2008, 11:43 PM
And yes, Mauve is adorable. The poor girl is going to end up with internet stalkers.
Who is this Mauve? The only picture I saw was of a sultry lady with an eye patch and a distinctive quote bubble saying that "I are not teh Mauve Mage"
Teh internet is safe once again due to mustaches and eye patches (ooh that almost rhymed)
Mauve Mage
01-24-2008, 02:22 AM
You could always modify the pictures with a mustache or eye patch: [IMAGE WITH TEH MUSTACHE!] ...What the.... That's... Wha....
I look like V.
O.o
The poor girl is going to end up with internet stalkers. Precisely why I don't want Mauve pics all over the place. :shifty:
bananarama
01-24-2008, 02:50 AM
...What the.... That's... Wha....
I look like V.
O.o
Who said that's you?! Clearly whoever is in that pic said, "I are not teh Mauve Mage", which means that person isn't you! Geez it's always gotta be about you, huh? :rolleyes: So selfish.... (obviously JK XD. Also, now that you mention it, you should wear a Guy Fawkes mask and then find some totalitarian government to topple in a dystopian future...)
What's this "going to" bullshit?
It's kinda counterproductive to announce to your victim that you're stalking her, Fenris.
Khael!
01-24-2008, 09:30 AM
Oh darn. My first avatar is back on the hard drive of my unplugged computer! Nooo!
Eh, that was back when all I used were Red Mage avatars, so anything I draw up now could easily fit in and replace that.
I don't mind if my face is posted places as long as those places are NPF only. (The fact that the camwhoring thread is viewable by non-members is a little leery... why's it like that anyway?) I mean, I got shorter hair now but you could hardly tell my gender from that first photo, and I'm scared of attracting stalkers of either sex. Knowing I'm a guy probably won't stop some of them XD
Loyal
01-24-2008, 10:14 AM
I do suggest, however, that those who can, add to ther profile their first avatarAbsolutely not.It's kinda counterproductive to announce to your victim that you're stalking her, Fenris.I think he's trying to put her off her guard, by merit of Fenris being totally ineffectual as a stalker. :p
Though I do like Big Mac's idea.
bluestarultor
01-24-2008, 11:10 AM
I don't actually mind people knowing what I look like. Well, much. I'll rephrase that as I prefer people don't know what I look like until they know what I sound like, so as to avoid bias. Because you wouldn't believe the stuff some people come up with. :gonk:
Edit: But I'm not against my own picture in the wiki.
Nikose Tyris
01-24-2008, 11:20 AM
Newb is finishing uploading the last of the files this afternoon for me.
Stupid Mac formats.
Stupid slow internets.
CelesJessa
01-24-2008, 11:20 AM
For the pictures. It would probably work best if it was something we chose that would properly describe us. Like those of us who make sprite comics could use sprites, those of us who like to draw could draw something, or those who want their photo(photoshopped or not) can choose to do that. That way everyone is happy.
Bailey
01-24-2008, 11:23 AM
So nobody should be putting pictures on other people's pages?
bluestarultor
01-24-2008, 11:28 AM
So nobody should be putting pictures on other people's pages?
That pretty much sounds fair. That prevents people from dealing with unwanted photos.
Although, Mauve, you really have nothing to worry about, since no one knows where you are. And even if they did, it would mean you probably knew each other, anyway. Besides, you've got nothing to be ashamed of, at least any more than me.
Bailey
01-24-2008, 11:46 AM
The FTP thing isn't working right, so I'm now downloading fucking Mozilla to see if that works any better.
Like those of us who make sprite comics could use sprites, those of us who like to draw could draw something, or those who want their photo(photoshopped or not) can choose to do that.
I don't have sprites, nor can I draw and I much prefer to keep my true appearance mysterious. Guess I'll have to stick with my default avvy.
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