More Heroes (SPOILERS!)

[Fifthfiend]

Go ahead and do your posting blackout-free.

Unless you just really like blacking stuff out. I mean sometimes it's just kinda fun.

[Mike McC]

Shouldn't we just leave open and sticky a Heroes discussion thread? I mean, it's easily the most discussed TV show here anyway, and it seems kinda pointless to be closing and making a new thread every week or two.

Anyway, on the genetics of powers, it is a crap shoot. I mean, Phasing + Super-Strength = Control over machines? However, for Alejandro and Maya, the powers are probably related because they are twins.

Also, as revealed by Greg Beeman (http://gregbeeman.blogspot.com/), in the original toe-nail clipping scene Claire was not supposed to be able to regenerate the lost toe, and instead had to hold the severed toe up to the bloody stump to regenerate. It was changed due to time constraints, and the original effect just not working as well.

And now, a theory: I think The Company actually has the virus, and is using it to get what they want. I mean, Molly contracted it at the right time to convince Mohinder to help them the second time, and then The Haitian, who most likely has a lot of information that The Company wants, just happens to contract it, effectively confining him to one location. Unfortunately for The Company, Bob didn't know that Mohinder doesn't really think things through when he does them. It's too early to really call, but it's something to think about.

[Lumenskir]

Am I the only one that thought that this episode was just a weak rehashing of last week?

HipstAir is a dick and stalks around Claire before flying off, again.
Hiro mucks around in the past, again.
One of the Company's founders gets attacked, again.
Parkman acts boring in his job, again.
Wondertwins run, again.
Yadda yadda.

I dunno, I thought this episode was pretty weak. Besides the reintroduction of the Haitian I can't really think of anything that moved the plot forward/was different from last week. I'd be more excited about Faux Kensei having a power if it wasn't already mined for all its entertainment worth (Oh no, he got hurt, oh yeah, he's fine! repeated ad nauseam).

Speaking of Claire's power, she CAN still feel pain right? I might be a nancy boy, but whenever I accidentally splash myself with boiling water I tend to devolve into profanity, and I'm sure that after cutting off my little toe I'd do more than scrunch my face up. I guess she's been stoically suppressing the assumed pain since the first episode and its high tower ground dives, but I think the writers are trying to gloss over the brutality of her ability to recover by deemphasizing how much she gets hurt in the first place, but now we've reached a point where she seems to relish any opportunity to damage herself. Are we supposed to get the impression that Claire would probably enjoy being pushed to her limits by the Company?

I feel bad for Alejandro. Aside from Aquamanism, I can think of no power more demeaning than cleaning up another person's mess. What happens if Maya experiences character growth and learns to control herself? I'm giving 1:1 odds that Alejandro gets bumped off by season's end.

Hopefully Sylar coming back jumpstarts some actual development.

[ArlanKels]

She can feel pain, she's just building up a tolerance what with falling off of buildings, getting in car crashes and getting killed.


I bet Alejandro ends up taking in too much of the evil doom and evolves into some sort of death bringer.


This episode was more of a "LOOK AT ME MAH!" episode, what with Peter throwing around powers left and right, Claire showing off her powers and the big bad unknown cutting/smacking/whatever Peter's mom, while Maya and her bro do their magic.

[Fifthfiend]

Yeah I figure once you work out mentally that no amount of pain will actually kill you, you probably just stop giving a fuck about it.

I do wish Kensei had been given a power at least more in line with being a conniving druken English fucker, whatever that power might happen to be.

[Mesden]

I do wish Kensei had been given a power at least more in line with being a conniving druken English fucker, whatever that power might happen to be.

Invisibility!

[Hawk]

I think it was stated by one of the shows creators that Claire does feel pain, just not in the same way we do. And besides, any pain she would feel is instantly supressed as soon as her regen kicks in. Apart from that time in the first episode when she didn't notice her own bones poking out her side.

Oh and I don't think Alejandro is going to be killed off, seeing as he's the only one who can cure the disease his sister creates. 'Cos you know, it might cause problems in future eps if he ever snuffed it.

[Mike McC]

I dunno, I thought this episode was pretty weak. Besides the reintroduction of the Haitian I can't really think of anything that moved the plot forward/was different from last week.Well, quite a bit happened. Claire's flyboy stalker saw her power. Peter's pretty much being blackmailed into doing an Irish mob's dirty work. The person who was hunting down the original group of The Company has the ability to at least attack a person in a locked room in the middle of a police station and not be caught or seen. Hell, Mrs. Petrelli was ATTACKED in a locked room in a police station. Hiro's got Kensei back on the path to being a hero instead of just drinking and being a scary white man. More was revealed of Maya's and Alejandro's power. And, also important, we know the virus really is on the move. Furthermore, we learned that there is a series of paintings out there by Issac that show all of the major company players that are marked for death.

Yes, there was quite a bit of plot movement, it was just spread out over all the stories, so there are no monumental leaps. Which is to be expected at this part of the season. You build a solid base for the story, then you drive it forward. It was like this at the start of the first season, it just wasn't as 'subtle' as people were discovering powers then. But the plot movement will probably be a bit more on this slower pace until the storylines start linking up more.

[The Argent Lord]

I feel bad for Alejandro. Aside from Aquamanism, I can think of no power more demeaning than cleaning up another person's mess. What happens if Maya experiences character growth and learns to control herself? I'm giving 1:1 odds that Alejandro gets bumped off by season's end.
I kinda got the idea that he could absorb disease in general. Kinda like John Coffey in The Green Mile. Much more useful, and possibly a chance to kill off Mohinder and let someone else cure the disease?

[Mike McC]

I kinda got the idea that he could absorb disease in general. Kinda like John Coffey in The Green Mile. Much more useful, and possibly a chance to kill off Mohinder and let someone else cure the disease?Nah, I think being twins may have 'split' the power, so to speak. Maya gets the Bleeding Eyes of Death, and Alejandro got the ability to control that power, and reverse it.

[Lumenskir]

Oh and I don't think Alejandro is going to be killed off, seeing as he's the only one who can cure the disease his sister creates. 'Cos you know, it might cause problems in future eps if he ever snuffed it.
Not really. Right now, he's the only one that cure people hurt by his sister, but the only times his sister hurts people is when she freaks out and can't control her own power.

Basically, character growth between the Wondertwins is limited. If the writers deem that Maya can never control her powers she'll basically have the same plight befall her every few episodes, namely "Oh no my twin brother is gone and I'm bleeding out my eyes and everyone around me is dying! Oh (yay he's here and he's healing everyone/no he came too late and he can't save them)!"

However, if she, I dunno, grows up/contains her emotional state, she'll be able to do things without needing her brother five feet away from her. What will be the point of Alejandro then?

[PCD]

As far as Sylar and his coming-backitude, I read that he'll be vanishing mid-season, since, you know, he's playing Spock in the Star Trek remake. (Which, by the way, I find hilarious.) But he shall return by the season's end, I believe.

Yeah, I mean, this episode was entertaining, but I don't feel like a whole lot of truly important stuff went down. Sure, we got some tiny clarifying bits regarding who's got what power and the like, but not much occurred.

And, I gotta agree that Kensei+healing is pretty boring. He's a legendary hero. Shouldn't powers for those types be all flashy-spiffy?

[Intern Nin]

And, I gotta agree that Kensei+healing is pretty boring. He's a legendary hero. Shouldn't powers for those types be all flashy-spiffy
Yeah really, I mean we're two episodes into the new season and we already got two pairs of people with the same powers. They could've made him a speedster or an ice manipulater, maybe even electrical powers. Instead they give him the exact same powers as Claire.

[Mike McC]

It's not as if this power revelation was really a surprise. I mean, Kensei was supposed to cut out his heart and give it to a dragon (in place of sacrificing his love) in the legend. Besides, what's more fitting than a hero that can't be harmed?

Also, another hint was on the Yamagoto Fellowship (http://yamagatofellowship.org/about/) website, which expanded upon Kensei cutting his heart out, the dragon, touched by the gesture, returned the heart and breathed life back into Kensei.

And we don't know if it's the EXACT same as Claire's yet. For all we know, it may only kick in when he dies.

[Mr.Bookworm]

Really, how do we know that he has the same power as Claire?

I personally believe that he's immortal in some form, since it seemed like he actually died for a second there, and then came back to life. Which would make sense for Hiro's return for the present. What if Kensei's still alive in the present? What if he's even one of the Company's founders?[/wild speculation]

[Mashirosen]

Dude's a Highlander. Seems pretty obvious.

[Mannix]

When English guy got shot I was really hoping that he didn't have any powers and it turned out that Hiro was his own childhood hero.

As far as having a power fitting an English boozehound, how about the ability to touch objects and turn them into alcohol? At least then his power wouldn't be a total copy.

[Intern Nin]

Dude's a Highlander. Seems pretty obvious.
That is the best Heroes theory I've ever heard.

[Hawk]

And, I gotta agree that Kensei+healing is pretty boring. He's a legendary hero. Shouldn't powers for those types be all flashy-spiffy

I think you're missing the whole point of Kensei. The whole point about Kensei is that he's not the legendary hero we thought he was, he's not all flashy.

And personally I think it's more a self ressurection ability, making him an immortal, rather than a regenerator.

Oh and Intern, Sylar already has cryokineasis and Peter already has electrokineasis, so both of those powers are already taken anyway.

[Mirai Gen]

Claire's power pretty much works the same way - once she's actually no longer damaged to where she's dead, she comes back to life. Kensei has the same thing - remember that Hiro pulled the arrow from what appeared to be his heart, then he just woke back up.

Also: Kensei having his whole super-regen power seems to make sense to me - they've already introduced Peter's empathy, Nathan/Stalkerboy's flight, Claire/Kensei's regeneration, David (or whomever's) Telekenesis, Parkman's telepathy, whoever Sylar got the ice power from, DL's phasing, Isaac's painting premonitions, Micah's technomancy, Ted's explosivity, Gold Man's Gold power, the twins' mind-eye-bleeding-mystery power, Clarie's mom's fireworks, Illusion chick's illusions, Linderman's healing, Jessica/Nikki's strength, Hiro's time/matter bending, Molly's location, the Haitian's what-the-fuck-do-you-call-his-fucking-power, and invisi-dude's invisibility.

Since we have quite a few powers as of now, I don't think it'd be a stretch to have some of them start to carry over. That's not even including Angela Petrelli, Charles, and possibly Hiro's dad, since they didn't exibit any powers.

Also: Does anyone else think that the shaman spanish chick, whether or not she's coming back, had a sort of illness-empathy power?

[Odjn]

Alejandro seems to have the ability to absorb and nullify illness, since Maya's ability is described as virulent.

I suspect he'll end up saving people from the virus that Mohinder can't be seen around (Claire.)

[Hawk]

I suspect he'll end up saving people from the virus that Mohinder can't be seen around (Claire.)

That's assuming Claire can even get sick. I mean if she can heal seemingly any wound and even regenerate limbs, one would assume hightened white blood cell counts and extreme amounts of antibodies would come as standard, right?

Which also begs the question: Does Claire age now that she's super powered-up? Old cells would simply die and then cell division (Meiosis? Mitosis? I forget which is which) kicks in and everything is the same again.

[Demetrius]

I think they'll have a lot of explaining to do if this lasts more than a couple seasons... I'm thinking Claire has a bunch more to her than just self regeneration, and this was hinted at anyway.

I'm still of the opinion that Peter is a plant and the box has more than just his identity.

Also I think Invisi-hobo has powers along the lines of Peter's as well, I mean I think he's bright enough to have kept stuff hidden from the company.

Mrs. Petrelli is going to be an issue, I'm really hoping for some fill in on what her powers and misdeeds are.

[I_Like_Swordchucks]

That's assuming Claire can even get sick. I mean if she can heal seemingly any wound and even regenerate limbs, one would assume hightened white blood cell counts and extreme amounts of antibodies would come as standard, right?

Which also begs the question: Does Claire age now that she's super powered-up? Old cells would simply die and then cell division (Meiosis? Mitosis? I forget which is which) kicks in and everything is the same again.


Well if her powers are anything like Wolverine's, which they certainly seem to be, she'll stop aging between 25 and 30. She'd keep aging right now, however, because maturing is a healthy, natural part of growth. She could effectively live forever though.

And even if she wasn't immune to disease, she'd never know it as she'd regenerate any damage done by any sickness as fast as the damage was coming.


This however leads you to wonder, if infinite regeneration can lead to effective immortality, wouldn't Kensai still be alive in the modern age?

[Mirai Gen]

There's a chance they might address that later on, and I think it's being alluded towards.

[Mike McC]

The problem with the virus is that it blocks the powers of the person. So, I don't think that even regeneration could help, because it'd block the regeneration power.

[Demetrius]

In order for that to take effect the virus would have to be able to survive in her system... Which I'm thinking isn't so much of a happening thing.

[Mirai Gen]

Actually, I don't think that Claire and Kensei are immortal, or even protected from the virus. If we're still applying the Marvel universe to this whole thing, Woverine is immune to everything from paint thinner to a long island ice tea. Yet Kensei gets shitfaced pretty hard. Maybe the regeneration only applies to bodily wounds. A virus might get to her. Has it been stated before that she never got sick?

[ArlanKels]

Kensei's ability to heal hasn't been specified.
Whether it relates to the heart itself, or requires being dead, or he needs to get his head chopped off we don't know.

Claire's requires a certain part of her brain, which means that it's a subconcious activation, kind of like a heart beat. It also ALWAYS has a delay on it, most likely since the brain has to catch on to the fact that there's an injury and then double check so it doesn't heal something that isn't injured.

So she'd get sick, lose her powers and then her powers would kick in, but as she lost them then she obviously couldn't heal from it. The KryptoPlague is also appearantly mutating and becoming stronger, more virulent, which means that if it did fail to settle in on her at one point, at a later instance it might grow even stronger.


And just wait and see that retard girl who weeps oil/blood/whatever kill off mohinder. Because we all hate mohinder.

[Mike McC]

Nah, Mohinder's alright. Yeah, he does suffer from the stupidest man alive syndrome, but now Mr. Bennet is using that 'not thinking ahead' tendency in a smart way.

[Pandora]

This however leads you to wonder, if infinite regeneration can lead to effective immortality, wouldn't Kensai still be alive in the modern age?

I don't think it's necessarily infinate regeneration, I highly doubt if Claires head got cut off she would regen a new one. Also, Sylar could have killed her, as shown in the future. It is possible for her to die, but only if she can't regenerate quickly enough to counter-act the amount of bodily harm.

Also, she only revives herself if she doesn't have any object lodged in her skull or something that prevents her from doing so. If Hiro had not pulled the arrow out of Kensie's chest (heart?), who's to say he would have regenerated at that moment?

Touching on the disease factor, since it seems to only effect those with mutated genes (the heroes), it's likely that it would effect Claire in the same way. It's implied that the disease cripples whatever powers the individual has, so if the disease were to enter Claires system, it could then negate her regeneration, allowing the disease to overcome her completely, also rendering her as immortal as fruit fly.

[ArlanKels]

Fruit fly are very immortal.

If she does regenerate her whole body from a decapitation it'd probably leave her with a hollowed out skull, ala one persons healing from the stories of Xanth, basically that they could not regenerate something from nothing. They had to draw from fat/muscle/etc in order to remake body parts.

I stand by my belief that it's a subconcious aspect with a delay on activation, thus it'd leave it wide open to the KryptoPlague.

[EVILNess]

What about the toe man. THE TOE!?

Are my hopes for an evil Claire too much?

Also: Sylar. YAY!

[Pandora]

I totally agree that it's a subconcious with a delay, and yeah, it does leave her wide open to the disease, especially because this plauge appears to be designed to cripple/kill the heroes.

It's implied that the powers are linked to ones brain, as that's how Sylar steals powers. If Claire were to get her head chopped off, I don't think she could regen since her brain would be MIA. Interesting to ponder, however, if she was decapitated, would the body regenerate a new head (hollow?) or would she be able to regenerate a whole new body? Or could she only revive if her head and body were reconnected (a la Deadpool)? Would there be a time limit before the body/brain dies without the other?

[EVILNess]

Would there be a time limit before the body/brain dies without the other?

Wasn't she dead for a rather long period of time in the first season? Like a couple hours?

[Pandora]

Yeah, but her body was still intact for the most part. This is more if her head was cut off, could it be reattached, and would there be a time limit?

Evil Claire would be great, and I think if anyone could get her there it'd be West. He already completely accepts his power, and is loving it. That's what Claire wants, to be herself, to be open about her power. She was happiest when she was with the other heroes and not only could be herself, but it was important that she was. Although I think she has too much of a hero complex to go too evil. Unless something relevent happens.

[Mannix]

Yeah, but her body was still intact for the most part. This is more if her head was cut off, could it be reattached, and would there be a time limit?

Evil Claire would be great, and I think if anyone could get her there it'd be West. He already completely accepts his power, and is loving it. That's what Claire wants, to be herself, to be open about her power. She was happiest when she was with the other heroes and not only could be herself, but it was important that she was. Although I think she has too much of a hero complex to go too evil. Unless something relevent happens.
Red Kryptonite. Also, I don't think there'd be a time limit for her head, but maybe her body. Which begs the question, if you cut off her head could you attach it to somebody else's body since her power is stored in her head?

[Mirai Gen]

Well we need a real powers test with Claire - If it's like Deadpool or Wolverine or something, where you just cut off the head and they get brain damage till they die, then her regen won't do crap if that happens.

Hm. She needs to get hit by a bus or something. That'd explain everything.

"We found like three arms all over the crime scene, two legs, and I think another head, but Claire's fine. ...hm...."

[Hawk]

Nah, if we wanna see her tested then she needs to get caught in a gas explosion, in a block of flats which then catches fire which then burns wildly out of control. And then the building collapses on top of her, burying her remains.

That's a test of explosive resistence and regeneration, complete flesh re-growth AND blunt crushing force on what remains of her skeleton after the explosion and the fire have dismembered and burn away her flesh, respectively.

That ought to test her completely.

[Odjn]

That's assuming Claire can even get sick. I mean if she can heal seemingly any wound and even regenerate limbs, one would assume hightened white blood cell counts and extreme amounts of antibodies would come as standard, right?

Which also begs the question: Does Claire age now that she's super powered-up? Old cells would simply die and then cell division (Meiosis? Mitosis? I forget which is which) kicks in and everything is the same again.

I would assume the virus' presence shuts down her powers, then makes her sick.

Also, women love Mohinder. Ask Mesden.

[Mesden]

What? I said Mohinder was a damn moron. And he is.

[Pandora]

Hmm Claires head on another body theory is interesting. Would be *hilarious* as well. (Claire's head on Mohinders body, for example. Heh heh heh) That is assuming she could regenerate from something like that. Re-growing toes or even arms is another thing, regenerating a new body is different. In season one when she died and she was cut open in the morgue, she didn't grow new skin to recover her chest, she had to physically push herself back together.

Also, there is a time delay in her normal healing, the time delay with the toe was even longer. What kind of delay would there be to regenerate an arm? a leg?

Does Claire's regen give her the ability to, for example, breathe underwater? Or would that kill her? Can she hold her breath infinately? If not, if her head were to be disconnected from her body, how long until the brain dies from lack of oxygen? Surely it wouldn't give her enough time to regen a body, even if she could. I think she could live through decapitation, but only if she was able to reconnect head to body.

[Mirai Gen]

I think that if she was doused in the ocean and, I dunno, fell to the bottom of the ocean, she'd be dead since there wouldn't be any oxygen, ever, for ever. I think it's one of the few things that would kill her, since it wouldn't have to regenerate anything.

Maybe if she suffocated to death? That seems like a likely "Getting killed" scenario, aside from the whole Sylar "Slice Fucking Brain Open" thing.

[Infamous_J]

What I'm worried about is her mom's reaction to her daughter's severed toe lying on the carpet.

[Mike McC]

She'd probably be startled, and then she'd get mad and scold Claire for leaving such a thing lying around for poor Mr. Muggles to pick up.

[Mirai Gen]

It did have paint on the toenail, I doubt the mom would do the Aunt May thing and just completely disavow anything strange. I'm just curious how far Claire is willing to push this whole "Let me do shit" thing.

Oh, and BTW? Pandora is my girlfriend Kat. Just throwing that out there.

[Preturbed]

It did have paint on the toenail.

Did it really? What an oversight :-\ I looked for that but I couldn't tell.

[Mirai Gen]

Well she was just painting her toenails when she decided to test her powers. The new one that grew didn't have any nail paint, but the old one did.

[Hawk]

Hey hey hey, new Hero (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monica_Dawson) ahoy!

[ArlanKels]

photographic reflexes?

Why that's what...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taskmaster
has..

[Mike McC]

Hawk, now, that is a bit overly spoilerish, as it hasn't aired anywhere yet, so throw a better warning up, would ya?

[Demetrius]

Dude this thread is for spoilers, just to let you know.

[Hawk]

1: This thread has a capitalized SPOILER warning in the title, implying spoilers.

2: I said it was a new hero, who (clearly), wouldn't have appeared on screen yet, otherwise it wouldn't be a new hero that we wouldn't all know about.

3: It was a link, which you know, you didn't HAVE to click on.

[Mike McC]

No, I don't have to click it, but still, it would be nice for a notice that it is for unaired material. Just because it's clear to you doesn't mean it's clear to everybody.

And, I thought to free-reign on not blacking out the spoilers only counted for the stuff that has already been aired. I'm sure there are people out there who want to discuss the current episodes (and, with a show like Heroes, who DOESN'T discuss it), but would prefer not to be spoiled with solid information about future episodes.

[RickZarber]

So, uh, how much of a delay is there before a week's episode goes up on the website?

'Cause I just finally finished watching Season 1 and the first two Season 2 episodes. And now that I'm caught up I wanna stay that way.

[Mirai Gen]

Photographic reflexes?

There's something Red Mage's class change familiar about it.

[Mike McC]

So, uh, how much of a delay is there before a week's episode goes up on the website?

'Cause I just finally finished watching Season 1 and the first two Season 2 episodes. And now that I'm caught up I wanna stay that way.I find that they're usually up within 24 hours, I'm not really sure how long it takes, I just know they're up around noonish on Tuesday when I check.

[Mesden]

I find that they're usually up within 24 hours, I'm not really sure how long it takes, I just know they're up around noonish on Tuesday when I check.

From last season, there always seemed to be a deadline of atleast 11 PM on tuesday to have Heroes up -- I think they're shifting their priorities to get it up faster this season though, since it was up Tuesday morning when I missed the first episode.

[Mike McC]

I've been waiting a while to say this. Eh-hem.

CANDICE, YOU BITCH!! At least they gave a good reason why no one saw a dying Sylar dragging himself off of the square last season. And that he's still very fucked up by Hiro's attack four months after the fact.

Also, D.L. die, I am sad. ;_;

[Infamous_J]

yes! omigod! go sylar, go!

and Peter force choked someone, fucking sweet!

[Long-Haired Narcissist]

So Peter can use multiple powers at a time now and Candace just replace Mohinder as the dumbest person.

[ArlanKels]

Wondertwins...

Did the exact same thing they did the last two episodes.

Can we maybe...stop wasting time with them?

[Mike McC]

All in all, this was perhaps the weakest single episode yet. They really need to hurry up and get Peter out of the Irish mob, becuase it's dragging a lot of stuff down. However, it was slavaged by the return of Syler and Candice getting her comeuppins. Plus, the 8th painting does throw a good deal of "Ooh, good story to dcome!" in there. But the other bits were all a bit weak. Even Hiro's bit was a bit weaker than the past couple of episodes, but reading Beeman's blog, they changed things around enough that the 90 Angry Ronin bit really became an orphan. But, with the reintroduction of three returning characters, maybe they'll switch over to a more staggered storytelling scheme, focusing on only some of the stroies every episode, as right now I see about nine or ten storylines, practically one for ever character (Ando's and Hiro's, as well as Mohinder's and Noah's, are still rather tightly intertwined). They're trying to do too much per episode, and it's really strangling things.

As for the twins, I can see some interesting things come of them, but really they need some more time to actually develop them. Like tonight. Maya conciously invoked her power so she could spring her brother, but they didn't delve into the reactions or the consequences of her action.

[Preturbed]

So Sylar has the Virus, Peter gets a tat after 15 minutes in the mob, Nikki/Jessica are still lame, Claire is turning evil at the speed of duh, flying kid is still a clone and Hiro is still being himself and tearing shit up.

Did anyone catch Pete's tattoo change from the crest to the symbol to... nothing?

[Pandora]

They're trying to do too much per episode, and it's really strangling things.

I agree, they are trying to do too much per episode, but at this point they have so much to work with. I mean this is the first episode we see Nikki and find out what happened to DL, and even that story was extrememly short. Nathan and Angela werent even in the ep at all.

Great plot twists with Claire and Wests story, as well as Mohinder and Noah.

Looks like next week they pull more of the "original heroes" story together. Think they need to hurry up and get Peter back and reveal the deal with los wondertwins though.

[Pandora]

So Sylar has the Virus, Peter gets a tat after 15 minutes in the mob, Nikki/Jessica are still lame, Claire is turning evil at the speed of duh, flying kid is still a clone and Hiro is still being himself and tearing shit up.

Did anyone catch Pete's tattoo change from the crest to the symbol to... nothing?

Does Sylar have the Virus? Wasnt the Virus only affecting those with the genetic mutation? And Sylar didnt have the genetic mutation, he made himself "special" by... eating brains? Still not clear how he does it.

So I guess the question is, does he have the Virus, and does the Virus affect people with the genetic mutation, or does it go after people who *have* the powers, but not neccessarily the gene that determines it?

[Mike McC]

Pandora, not to sound harsh or anything, but please note that there's an edit button, so there's no need to double post.

Sylar does have a power. He was on Professor Suresh's list. His power is an instant understanding of how things work, which is how he can steal others powers. And it's not known if he has the virus. "Bob" seemed to be sure that there was a cure for Niki's power.

Perhaps the virus is a harmful mutation of a 'cure' for those with dangerous powers, developed by the company, and Candice (you BITCH) infected him with it, or a variant of it that surpresses his powers until it's cured. Because, it'd be just stupid to have him have all his powers until you're sure he's on your side. Unfortunately for Candice, she's a cocky bitch, and forgot that he also has use of arms/blunt instruments.

Just throwing a theory out there.

[Fifthfiend]

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