Heroes!

[Odjn]

Heroes is on tonight!

I predict awesome!

[Infamous_J]

Which fucking channel! I forget since I've been watching Tech TV for the last four weeks.

[Kurosen]

NBC, fool!

[Fifthfiend]

I predict a bottomless swamp of wretched awful. Like, they kill off every single character in the first half-hour except Hiro who runs in front of a bus to save the life of Mohinder, at which point they unveil that they've renamed the show Mohinder: The Smartest Man in the World and Maker of Intelligent Decisions.

There, my expectations are now suitably low that I'll be able to enjoy the show on its own merits.

[Preturbed]

So, Hiro's dad is the samurai from feudal japan, right? Right?

[Mike McC]

Nah, I've been thinking, and he mentioned that Hiro was the first to ascend, or something. So, he's involved, but as like a secret keeper or something like that. I don't think he has any actual powers. So, I doubt he's Kensei.

[Mirai Gen]

My girlfriend's internet and TV is installed...wendsday.

I don't have the heart to tell her Heroes starts up tonight.

[Odjn]

Can't you just invite her over?

[Bells]

Can't you just invite her over?

It's his Girlfriend why would he invite her over to his place? I mean, Geez...! You people have some weird ideas sometimes....

[PCD]

I read a very small portion of the HUUUGE spoilerfest article in Entertainment Weekly--namely, the page where they introduce the new characters. I was surprised on the subject of Kensei, because though I was quite sure that he would be Hiro's ancient daddy, it turns out he's some sort of drunken old English guy. Also, that chick from Veronica Mars'll be a semi-bad guy, and we got some Wonder Twin action coming up soon.

Also, I heard a rumor that they'll focus on a smaller number of characters per episode, so it'll be like you watch to find out what happens, rather then watching to find out if something happens.

CAN NOT WAIT.

[Regulus Tera]

It's his Girlfriend why would he invite her over to his place? I mean, Geez...! You people have some weird ideas sometimes....

To do the horizontal dance?

[The Argent Lord]

Nah, I've been thinking, and he mentioned that Hiro was the first to ascend, or something.
Well, he didn't actually say that. He said, "I've been waiting a very long time for a Nakamura to ascend." Which would make perfect sense if he was Kensei, watching his descendants and waiting for another powered person to appear in his family tree.

[Infamous_J]

im really interest in seeing what maya's power is, she freakin killed several mexicans WITH WHAT I WOULD GUESS IS HER MIND! and why alejandro is not affected (super power maybe?) and Peter (the only person i'd capitalize) is ALIVE! with no memory

[Preturbed]

Peter (the only person i'd capitalize) is ALIVE! with no memory
Yeah, that was a tough call.[/sarcasm]

Actually, the memory loss thing is kind of surprising to me... there's no real reason for it.

[EVILNess]

I came in during the cheerleader scene. Did I miss anything?

[Infamous_J]

quite possibly the biggest and most amazing fight between Peter and sylar EVER [/lie]

[Mike McC]

I must say this now. I <3 Kensei.

Also, YAY MATT's ALIVE!

[Demetrius]

I loved the dinner scene with all the reaction shots, it was sooo awkward!

[Fifthfiend]

Did anyone else think Journeyman was totally great?

Okay I should probably start a separate thread for that or something.

But anyway did anyone else think Heroes was totally, totally great?

Oh man, Glasses kicked that copy-shop manager's ass! And Mohinder may actually be doing something intelligent! Buuuuuuut probably not. And I'm not sure if Hiro fucked up the past or he's actually making it the way it's supposed to be but either way it's Hiro, so yay, Hiro! But boo, dead George Takei.:(

[Mirai Gen]

I think we can start calling him Bennet or Noah now. And hell yeah he did.

[Mannix]

I just watched Resident Evil: Extinction. Nikki and Jessica look very fine with red hair. Also, I thought the episode was a little dry for an opener. It could have stood to be a 2 hour premier so they could actually get to the meats of it, instead of just doing a partial roll call.

[Mike McC]

Also, I thought the episode was a little dry for an opener. It could have stood to be a 2 hour premier so they could actually get to the meats of it, instead of just doing a partial roll call.I think they did a good job with getting the story started, with The Bad Man haunting Molly's dreams, Mohinder and Mr. Bennet plotting to take down The Company from the inside, and a mysterious person taking down the original group, Kensei being an awesome money-hungry Brit, and Peter being found amnesiatic in a shipping container in Ireland, plus the newcomers Maya and her brother.

They covered quite a bit of ground, really.

[Mannix]

They covered quite a bit of ground, really.
Kind of. Nothing of consequence happened. It was just everybody being "hey, lookit me, I'm not dead. Look at this tantalizing hint of wacky adventure." I get why they do it, and I get that it can't be non stop action all the time. I was just hoping for something a little meatier. Although I was reading that this season is based on the premise of 'extraordinary people doing ordinary things,' which bothers me. I don't need to watch Superman flossing his teeth.

Also Nathan's beard is kickass. The only bad thing about will be when he inevitably shaves it off when he 'gets his shit together' after meeting up with his brother.

[Lumenskir]

Ya know, I guess when Invisi-Who said that he had met other power-copiers before it should have driven a nail in the coffin of my 'Powers like fingerprints' theory, but gosh darn if I didn't think the writers were going to give every character a unique aspect. Not that I can fault them, I'd rather a few powers repeat than have a few retarded people walking around with boring/ridiculous abilities. Although giving Claire's next romantic interest the same power as her father...I dunno if it's ringing lazy or anvilicous or possibly squick-esque. If the whole "Make up superhero names for the Heroes" practice is still going on into Season 2, can I offer up HipstAir for the newest flyer?

Has Alejandro been outed as a powered yet? Maya is obvious, what with poring over the universally available, and translated?, niche book on superpowers, but I got the vibe that Alejandro was just a normal big brother who is the only one capable of calming down his sister.

I guess we'll have to wait for the inevitable "Four Months Ago" episode before we find out how Nathan dodged a nuclear blast/how Peter got amnesia'd. Hopefully Nathan shaves off that ridiculously fake beard so Peter can have a proper realization, because without the emo hair Peter won't get memory triggers from looking in a mirror.

No 'My Two Dads' references yet? Tsk tsk.

[Fifthfiend]

Ya know, I guess when Invisi-Who said that he had met other power-copiers before it should have driven a nail in the coffin of my 'Powers like fingerprints' theory, but gosh darn if I didn't think the writers were going to give every character a unique aspect. Not that I can fault them, I'd rather a few powers repeat than have a few retarded people walking around with boring/ridiculous abilities. Although giving Claire's next romantic interest the same power as her father...I dunno if it's ringing lazy or anvilicous or possibly squick-esque. If the whole "Make up superhero names for the Heroes" practice is still going on into Season 2, can I offer up HipstAir for the newest flyer?

I'll throw my vote in for "Obnoxious Douche." Every scene with that guy made me want to gouge out my own eardrums so I wouldn't be forced to listen to his cock-diculous "Are you gonna be a cyborg, or are you gonna be a ninja???? That's right I'm all up in the face of your whole little world, man!" bullshit. What the fuck they need to bring back Claire's old sidekick who wasn't a douche cause I was already sick of this asshole before we found out he was a superpowered stalker-freak.

[Mike McC]

Kind of. Nothing of consequence happened.Yes, because Hiro's dad being killed is not of consequence at all.

[Mirai Gen]

Nothing of consequence? I mean, that's kind of how Heroes starts, then progresses to a climax. It's a comic book that goes through the downswing then back up.

[ArlanKels]

Um one weird question


What was with nathan looking at a mirrored self of himself and seeing some funky weird monster-ish thing?

[Mike McC]

Um one weird question


What was with nathan looking at a mirrored self of himself and seeing some funky weird monster-ish thing?
Not monsterish. Severely burned.

[PCD]

Yeah, that new flying douchebag has already pissed me off. He's almost as douchetastic as NOAH Bennett's new boss. And Kensei, while a cool guy, is sort of cliche, also. Oh man, a childhood hero who wasn't very heroic at all. What a plot twist.

I love the fact that Nathan's got this hideous beard, but his hair is still perfect.

[Preturbed]

Not monsterish. Severely burned.

Yeah I'm feeling, maybe... an alternate timeline? Or maybe he really did get burned and someone or something is providing superpowered makeup.

[Fifthfiend]

Yeah I'm feeling, maybe... an alternate timeline? Or maybe he really did get burned and someone or something is providing superpowered makeup.

Naw, it was just a guilt-flash. Like he's so wracked with trauma over (thinking that he) killed his brother that he's seeing Peter's mangled charred face, that kind of shit.

[Mannix]

Yes, because Hiro's dad being killed is not of consequence at all.
Well, Tim Kring (or one of the other producers) did say that the ability to travel through time means that people that die don't necessarily stay dead. I think Hiro might be willing to risk some shit to save his dad.

edit: also we have no idea what his power is. he just looks dead. although it is significant that somebody is trying to kill him and mrs petrelli, i'll give you that

[ArlanKels]

Still don't know what power Mrs. Petrelli has, do we?

And lets not forget that the painting of the dragon-monster-man-thing has yet to have it's purpose explained. Is it the "I see you" man, or is it going to be the dragon from the stories of Kenseiwhatnotcrappy who the guy gave his heart to?

[Preturbed]

Still don't know what power Mrs. Petrelli has, do we?

And lets not forget that the painting of the dragon-monster-man-thing has yet to have it's purpose explained. Is it the "I see you" man, or is it going to be the dragon from the stories of Kenseiwhatnotcrappy who the guy gave his heart to?

Pretty clear to me that it's The "I see you" man. Which is probably Uluru, in my opinion.

[EVILNess]

Kensei is my Heroes hero.

That is all.

[I_Like_Swordchucks]

I was actually more surprised that Nathan was not dead. I mean, Peter can heal himself up, but Nathan can just fly. Shouldn't a nuclear explosion have vaporized him or something?

[Sithdarth]

I was actually more surprised that Nathan was not dead. I mean, Peter can heal himself up, but Nathan can just fly. Shouldn't a nuclear explosion have vaporized him or something?


I thought we went over this before. Its really not that shocking. Once something starts going up at what seems like Mach 1.5 or so it takes some time to stop going up. Thus, Nathan could have just took him up a few thousand feet and let go while he was still going up at full speed and then flew off. He was probably pretty sure Peter would survive both the explosion and the fall and they'd find him later. Of course it appears someone else got to him first.

[Preturbed]

Of course it appears someone else got to him first.
Yeah, the Haitian. God only knows WHY, of course, but that is his necklace around Peter's neck

[Demetrius]

Oh snap! That I did not catch!

[Mesden]

What, the fact that Peter forgot everything? =P

I'm kinda thinking that The Haitian is working for this mysterious group that's coming after the Linderman groupies, considering they're so much more involves with the helix, and that Peter had the helix around his neck.

[Demetrius]

No I forgot that the Haitian had that necklace as well. I also agree with your supposition about another group. How much do you want to bet that Peter does remember everything and he hasn't returned to his brother for fear of the group his mother is involved with finding out.

[Mesden]

How much do you want to bet that Peter does remember everything and he hasn't returned to his brother for fear of the group his mother is involved with finding out.

I wouldn't bargain too much considering how damn scared Peter was in that scene, and also why the heck he hand cuffed himself inside of a cargo box.

[ArlanKels]

Psst don't forget that peter seemed confused as toward what he had just done, the whole "BLAM BIYOTCH FEAR MY WHITE LIGHT OF POWAAHHH".

[Preturbed]

Psst don't forget that peter seemed confused as toward what he had just done, the whole "BLAM BIYOTCH FEAR MY WHITE LIGHT OF POWAAHHH".

Yeah who/ere did that even come from?

[Mike McC]

Yeah who/ere did that even come from?I'm thinking it was Ted's power.

[Preturbed]

I'm thinking it was Ted's power.

Nah, that was orange. This was more of a bluish-white color, and Ted's power was less controlled. This seemed like a tight ball of energy released by accident. Ted had to concentrate to create a white-light blast. Seems like Peter has to concentrate just to harness a power. Maybe he came in contact with someone new? Or else he got altered and doesn't copy anymore... that way he'd still be cool but not broken. I'm rambling now, so I'll stop.

[Mannix]

I just realized something awesome. Peter's being stranded in Cork means that one of the new cast members is going to be a fiery Irish redhead. Hopefully of the beautiful woman variety.

[Odjn]

Perhaps it's one of the unknown victims that Sylar offed?

[Mike McC]

Nah, that was orange. This was more of a bluish-white color, and Ted's power was less controlled. This seemed like a tight ball of energy released by accident. Ted had to concentrate to create a white-light blast. Seems like Peter has to concentrate just to harness a power. Maybe he came in contact with someone new? Or else he got altered and doesn't copy anymore... that way he'd still be cool but not broken. I'm rambling now, so I'll stop.Actually, Ted created whitish balls a few times. When he burned 'bright, not hot'. And Peter was always able to pull off his powers rather well when it was more of a reflex. It's just he never had good concious control over soem of them.

[Lumenskir]

Did Ted create concentrated blasts? I thought he just glowed really bright and sent out a wave that EMPed everything in the area. What Peter did was a direct assault that threw the guy back.

Again, the "X Months Ago" episode that's coming will explain the specifics of what happened in the aftermath. I'm guessing the Haitian didn't just pluck Peter out of the sky and stick him in a shipping container for 4 months.

[Mike McC]

Naw, it was just a guilt-flash. Like he's so wracked with trauma over (thinking that he) killed his brother that he's seeing Peter's mangled charred face, that kind of shit.Actually, Nathan is seeing his own face burned and disfigured.

[Fifthfiend]

? I could have sworn that was Peter's face.

[Mike McC]

? I could have sworn that was Peter's face.Greg Beeman, who directed this episode, essentially said that it was Nathan in the mirror in the newest post on his blog (http://gregbeeman.blogspot.com/). Please note that his blog carries a constant 'potential minor spoilers within' warning, as it does deal with the production of the episodes and such.

[bananarama]

Heroes sucks and you all suck for liking...well not really. Heroes (or any other TV show) doesn't appeal to me.

[Preturbed]

Heroes sucks and you all suck for liking...well not really. I am just not appealed to Heroes (or any other TV show).

I'm going to kick your ass in rumble now. Also it's "Heroes doesn't appeal to me," not what you said.

[bananarama]

I'm going to kick your ass in rumble now. Also it's "Heroes doesn't appeal to me," not what you said.
Oh come on why can't we be friends? Also, yeah I was just a little bit tired when I posted so fixing grammar now.

[Preturbed]

Greg Beeman, who directed this episode, essentially said that it was Nathan in the mirror in the newest post on his blog (http://gregbeeman.blogspot.com/). Please note that his blog carries a constant 'potential minor spoilers within' warning, as it does deal with the production of the episodes and such.

His wording on that blog sort of alludes to the idea that there is more to the disfigured Nathan than just a reflection. "Who is this vision?" sounds to me like he may now have an alter-ego, or represent the side of him that once leaned toward the dark side.

[Hawk]

What episode are you guys on over in the states now? 'Cos I just finished season 1 and I'm starting season 2, but can only find the first episode and I'd really like to know where the season's up to.

[Infamous_J]

Episode Two:Attack of the Nathans

[The Argent Lord]

What episode are you guys on over in the states now? 'Cos I just finished season 1 and I'm starting season 2, but can only find the first episode and I'd really like to know where the season's up to.
Season 2, Episode 2 airs tonight. You're all caught up.

[Hawk]

Ah, excellent, I thought you guys were further along already. I'll have to keep an eye out for ep 2 then.

[ArlanKels]

It should be up probably by the middle of tomorrow, if not sooner.

[Infamous_J]

sweet, isaac's work is not done yet!

[EVILNess]

So does the Mexican chick carry a super virus that is subdued by her brother's presence? Or did it not really explain? I missed a but of the episode.

Also what was Kensei's power? I remember seeing a commercial with Hiro going "You got a power too?"

[Long-Haired Narcissist]

It looks like he has the same power as Claire.

[Mike McC]

Maya's power does seem to be something that looks viral, but Alejandro seems to be able to do more than subdue it. It seems that he can reverse it after a fashion if he gets there quick enough.Also, The Haitian is back! Now there can be all sorts of kick-ass goin' on. Also, last episode, with the whole disfigured Nathan in the mirror bit, and now his Mom was attacked in a sealed room, only to be saved when the mirror was broken... is there a connection?

[EVILNess]

I want the toe to grow into a new Claire!

[Preturbed]

I want the toe to grow into a new Claire!
Quoted for ass-kickiness.

I hope these new heroes have new power. Kensei has Claire's ability? That's such BULLSHIT! It was a shitty power to begin with! Give him like, super speed or something! And little lord fuckeleroy with his flying powers? Come on, give him heat vision or x-ray skin or something. Just not the same old shit again! .

[EVILNess]

Well an evil clone of one of the heroes is the next logical step. Its in the comic character handbook.

It's like the natural progression in a soap opera. A couple falls in love, they get married after some tribulations, suffer a stalker/ex-wife/murder-plot, get pregnant, and one of the parents dies from a brain tumor.

Totally logical.

Plus, I think an evil Claire would be so badass.

[Intern Nin]

Quoted for ass-kickiness.

I hope these new heroes have new power. Kensei has Claire's ability? That's such BULLSHIT! It was a shitty power to begin with! Give him like, super speed or something! And little lord fuckeleroy with his flying powers? Come on, give him heat vision or x-ray skin or something. Just not the same old shit again! .
I think it would be better just to get rid Mr. High-Flying, Bullshit-Spouting Stalker and pretend he never existed, y'know like they do all the time in comics. And what the hell is wrong with Peter? Mere minutes ago he discovers he can move objects with his mind, and he doesn't think that instead of committing crimes just to get back a box of his stuff, he could use that power to take the box out of Asshole O'Hara's hand?

[Mike McC]

Well, actually, the writers/producerts discussed whether or not to duplicate powers. Anyway, what they decided...And no, similar powers do not mean a genetic link. We've seen that the existence of powers may be something passed on, but the powers themselves are a crapshoot of sorts. For example, phase-man + strength-girl = talks to machines. We hit a crossroads as we stared populating our universe with more characters. To duplicate powers or not to duplicate powers. The thing we loved about duplication of powers was that it spoke to character more purely. If Claire can regenerate – does that define her character – or does it come from her heart? The best way to explore that is to find someone else who can regenerate. (So, keep an eye out for that person.)Source: Behind the Eclipse: Season 2, Week1 (http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=12002). Please note that, along with Greg Beeman's blog (http://gregbeeman.blogspot.com/), Behind the Eclipse also carries spoiler warnings, even ones that extend past the current episode (though those tend to be rather minor, but are still there).And what the hell is wrong with Peter? Mere minutes ago he discovers he can move objects with his mind, and he doesn't think that instead of committing crimes just to get back a box of his stuff, he could use that power to take the box out of Asshole O'Hara's hand?It could have been a bluff, and the box was empty, and then he'd be really screwed. It's likely he didn't fully trust that revelation himself, and knew that his nuts were in a bind right then anyway, so to speak, and Peter also has no idea what the fuck is going on with him and his powers either.

[Fifthfiend]

Oh man, so totally stealing "little lord fuckleroy" from preturbed.

I think it would be better just to get rid Mr. High-Flying, Bullshit-Spouting Stalker and pretend he never existed, y'know like they do all the time in comics. And what the hell is wrong with Peter? Mere minutes ago he discovers he can move objects with his mind, and he doesn't think that instead of committing crimes just to get back a box of his stuff, he could use that power to take the box out of Asshole O'Hara's hand?

Oh gods, yes prease. Like he just walks out of the plot one day and we never see him again, and then Claire's old non-obnoxious sidekick, or some other not-goddamn-totally-annoying young fellow walks in.

Hey, it's what Stan Lee would have done.

[EVILNess]

The new Claire-kick isn't so much annoying as he is a creepy stalker.

Which when you think about it is a kind of super annoyance...

Ok, carry on.

EDIT: Maybe the toe can get the old sidekick!

[Satan's Onion]

So...Mohinder gets the memory-thievin' Haitian back in mid-season form after a bout of superperson's death-itis, and the latter escapes by wiping several hours of Mohinder's memory. But it's okay, 'cos he's totally undercover for le Bennett and he and Mohinder want the Haitian back. So he failed to screw up by screwing up? And his very first assignment just happens to be to cure a guy who turns out to be le Bennett's right-hand memory-fucker-upper? Bear with me if I sound stupid; I'm just trying to suss out for myself how much of that trip was plot-related serendipity and how much is the possibility that somebody's already sniffed out Mohinder as a mole.

Also, I must confess: the first I heard of Matt and Mohinder living together, I thought to myself, "Ladies and gentlemen...commence the slashfic."

[Mirai Gen]

I get why Peter lost his memory. It effectively removes Superman from the comic series for a while so the people who aren't flaming fucking badasses with every power necessary can't basically go around and deus ex machinae everything.

What I don't get is why it seems like the Haitian did it (what with the Helix pendant and all), especially if he's working for Noah. I do like the new villain though, I wonder what his power is going to be.

Ooh! Does anyone else predict that Peter is going to assimilate Maia's power without assimilating her brother's? The only real reason I think they wouldn't do it is because it's too much like the whole "Exploding Man" thing from season 1.

[Odjn]

So, it is possible Kensei is Claire's great great great great great great great granddaddy?

[I_Like_Swordchucks]

So I've decided that there's no way Peter should even be able to use his powers, as it was stated previously that he needed to think about the original power user in order to do so and he can't even remember any of them. But if they're going to do so, at least he acted like the tough mofo he should be and not like the pansy Peter-with-memory actually is.

And just so I'm in agreement with everybody else, stalker boy sucks.

[Sithdarth]

Peter only needs to feel certain emotions to access powers. Like when anger brought out his telekinesis on the Invisa-Hobo. Its just thinking about people is supposed to help him control his emotions and therefore the powers he accesses.

[Fifthfiend]

So...Mohinder gets the memory-thievin' Haitian back in mid-season form after a bout of superperson's death-itis, and the latter escapes by wiping several hours of Mohinder's memory. But it's okay, 'cos he's totally undercover for le Bennett and he and Mohinder want the Haitian back. So he failed to screw up by screwing up? And his very first assignment just happens to be to cure a guy who turns out to be le Bennett's right-hand memory-fucker-upper? Bear with me if I sound stupid; I'm just trying to suss out for myself how much of that trip was plot-related serendipity and how much is the possibility that somebody's already sniffed out Mohinder as a mole.

I kind of doubt the latter as it seems like a pretty bad setup for sussing out a mole. I mean the Haitian's power is 'gives people comas' and IIRC King Midas didn't tell Mohinder anything about the Haitian's powers in advance, it seems like a situation much more likely to invite an honest fuckup rather than reveal an agent's disloyalties.

Also, I must confess: the first I heard of Matt and Mohinder living together, I thought to myself, "Ladies and gentlemen...commence the slashfic."

It's not you, it's what the intenet has done to you.

[Truce]

So, it is possible Kensei is Claire's great great great great great great great granddaddy?

Powers aren't passed down genetically. Even if they share the same powers, it doesn't mean they're related.

Direct family members don't have seem to have similar powers, after all. Unless you're related to Peter - but he absorbs their powers anyway.

The twins seem to be an exception, as it seems like their powers have something to do with each other. Then again, it could really just be a coincidence/good luck that they happened to be together.

[Fifthfiend]

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