Metal Gear Solid - The Movie.

[Ugainius]

Okay Official Site (http://mgs.moviechronicles.com/) and IMBD (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0808372/)

Thoughts?

Link fixed

[Lord of Joshelplex]

It'll probably suck. No David Hayter, whats the point?

[greyfox]

If David Hayter was in the movie, it would surely be an awsome movie to watch...what i don't get is why Konami rejected him... after all, David was even involved in X-Men...

[Regulus Tera]

Is there any confirmation that it is going to be written by Kojima? If that's the case I think it may be worthy, but I don't trust imdb.

If they don't fix the stupidity with dominant and recessive genes, however, this is going to be pandered around by critics.

[Zilla]

NEEDS MORE HAYTER! If not, needs Kojima.

Hell, needs to be made in Japan? I dunno, but Hollywood is disappointing like EA is disappointing.

[Ugainius]

Is there any confirmation that it is going to be written by Kojima? If that's the case I think it may be worthy, but I don't trust imdb.

If they don't fix the stupidity with dominant and recessive genes, however, this is going to be pandered around by critics.

Wikipedia staes that he will be Executive Producer/Writer Just scroll down to movies. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hideo_Kojima)

Not that its confirmation or anything but...

[ArlanKels]

Given that Metal Gear Solid(the entire series) is of the cinema genre of video games primarily, much like most of the Final Fantasy games of late, I've always felt that it'd make the most sense to just make it into a movie.

Biggest problem is what the story is going to be about, and if they can fit it all into two hours.

[Ugainius]

My biggest concern is the Psycho Mantis battle, seeing as it did contain nought but a cool fight and utterly demolishing the fourth wall.

[Regulus Tera]

NEEDS MORE HAYTER! If not, needs Kojima.

Hell, needs to be made in Japan? I dunno, but Hollywood is disappointing like EA is disappointing.

I think there's something very wrong of having Liquid speak in japanese, even if it's anime.

[Lord_Amesius]

I've been waiting for this since I first heard about this on gamefaqs (DEATH THE GAMESPOTTERS!!!!!!), Im stoked.

[PyrosNine]

If Hayter can't do the job, I can pull off a decent Solid Snake voice.

"Metal Gearrr-uh!!"

[Seil]

Hopefully it has Psycho Mantis, Sniper Wolf, Decoy Octopus, Vulcan Raven and it doesn't make them look stupid (http://www.sorethumbsonline.com/comics/st20070430.gif).

That being said, it sounds like it'll be worth a look-see, but I'll save my opinion for when I actually see it.

[MFD]

David Wenham (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0920992/) would make a fantastic Snake if it's live action. I've never seen Hayter, but he probably doesn't look like Snake.

Wenham, especially in The 300, does.

From the IMDb (http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0416449/Ss/0416449/300FC00004.jpg?path=gallery&path_key=0416449)

Hell, he could probably play both Solid and Liquid Snake.

[Seil]

Presenting the one, the only, Solid Snake's voice actor....

*drumroll*

http://mgs3.bonusweb.cz/index/pix/konami/1.jpg

David Hayter!

http://www.videogamesblogger.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/david-hayter-voices-solid-snake.jpg

The funny thing is, though - Solid Snake is based offa Kurt Russel (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/72/Snakeprison.jpg), from Escape From New York - it's Hideo Kojima's favorite film. Russel's character is named "Snake Plisskin."

=3

[Ryu Van Burace]

It's not exactly Hayter hating but maybe there was just a decision in the two aspects that:
a) Having him do the voice for Snake would've looked odd when they dubbed over the actual actor.
b) He may have pitched a screenplay that wasn't accepted because Kojima had a better one.
I would bring the guy in as an advisor though. He'd have lots of advice to whoever is picked for Snake.

[Lux]

Given that Metal Gear Solid(the entire series) is of the cinema genre of video games primarily, much like most of the Final Fantasy games of late, I've always felt that it'd make the most sense to just make it into a movie.

Biggest problem is what the story is going to be about, and if they can fit it all into two hours.

Just because a game is very cinematic doesn't necessarily make it the best choice to be made into a movie. The story and the fights are definitely the biggest problems. How do you streamline MGS1's plot? And what about FOXHOUND? As someone else mentioned, in the context of a movie most of their fights would be rendered pretty pointless - unlike in a video game they'd just drag down the plot. So do they get dropped completely? I imagine many fans of the series would get upset with that. I don't envy whoever they picked as the scriptwriter.

But, hey, at least Uwe Boll's not involved. That's a small mercy.

You know, I'd actually be more optimistic about the Halo movie or the Metroid movie. It seems like they both have plots that would be much simpler to tranlsate to film and main characters who wouldn't be as difficult for an actor to step in and sort of make their own (at least as long as that doesn't include turning them into angsty emotional wrecks or sappy lovelorn losers) as opposed to Snake who's already very well-defined. Shame both those films seem to be in development hell.

[Seil]

You know, I'd actually be more optimistic about the Halo movie or the Metroid movie.

http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2004/20041208h.jpg

[Lux]

I challenge you to find me someone who doesn't think Christmas needs more robot cowboy angels.

[Sky Warrior Bob]

I'd heard about this long ago via Aint it Cool... This (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/31516)is basically their link to the official announcement, in Variety (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117959052.html?categoryId=20&cs=1).

Anyway, I can't see Hideo not being closely involved. I've heard that in a number of interviews, he's constantly stated how much he wants to be involved in movies. Its been rumored over & over the reason why he was thinking of leaving Metal Gear, is because he wanted to be involved in the movie industry.

SWB

[Hawk]

I'm wary of this. Games to films never convert well, and vice-versa. This we all know and as has been pointed out, there's a whole lot of plot in MGS to try and condense into just 2 hours.

And if the recent trend of "Even Worse Than Usual"* game-film conversions continues, then MGS could very well end up as a major dissapointment.

*By this I mean the 3rd Resi film (way to bastardise a franchise guys!) and Hitman (same deal as resi 3).

[Rygar]

All I can say is I hope it's good.

I also think that it has a better chance than other games of being a good film, since Kojima knows his movies.

[Mirai Gen]

I can't wait to see the script. It's going to be great.

"Snake."

*pause*

"You must destroy the Metal Gear!"
"Metal Gear?"

*pause

"Yes."
"Otherwise Big Boss will use it to take over the United States."
"Take over the US?"

*another pause*

"Yes."

The best part of the movie is going to be the loading screens.

Okay, no, but on a serious note, if they get this movie right, this could seriously be the movie that breaks that big wall between movie-seers and gamers who go to see the movies. This could seriously be a huge action/espionage movie.

[Lord of Joshelplex]

Regardless of how much It sucks, I am still gonna be in line to see this bitch.

[greyfox]

i always watch movies converted from games. Final Fantasy VII Advent Children wasn't too bad... Hopefully, MGS makes it all the way through... maybe the MGS movie will be lengthened to 3 hours or so seeing as how yes, the plot is looong. I completed the MGS game for PC/PSX in a little over a day including the cut-scenes. Without the scenes, 3 hours...

[ArlanKels]

Most Metal Gear Solid storylines tend to seem to focus on:

Part A :: This occurs in a limited environment, a small taste of what is to come so to speak. The basic "You need to do this" that Snake is given at the start is either completed or proven impossible to complete, resulting in Part B, which is of course the "main course".


So I imagine if they're making a brand new story it'll deal with Snake infiltrating an enemy base in order to acquire information on a secret project.

Subsequently he'll find out about something else, or maybe something about said project that requires his immediate need to deal with it. This will then lead to him befriending someone on the site of the infiltration with which he can gain assistance.

Cameo of Raiden.

Snake beats up someone and does a dance.

DANCE SNAKE, DANCE! NOOO SNAKE, TIME PARADOX!

[Seil]

What if they make it into a series, instead of trying to condense it into an hour?

[mazx]

Given that Metal Gear Solid(the entire series) is of the cinema genre of video games primarily, much like most of the Final Fantasy games of late, I've always felt that it'd make the most sense to just make it into a movie.

Biggest problem is what the story is going to be about, and if they can fit it all into two hours.

It burns! (http://abyss.hubbe.net/gfx/covers/dvd/lg/ff-lg.jpg)
Anyway to the point, I think it would be best to break it in to parts and I really hope they stick to the original story line. Of course even if it sucks (http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/51VJ2BZYFJL._AA240_.jpg) it will still be praised has the best movie ever made, by rabid fan boys.

[ArlanKels]

FF: Spirits within wasn't a bad movie.

It just was nowhere near anything equatable to Final Fantasy in any way shape or form. It's more comprable to Spirited Away or Monononononononoke...or was it ka? Or ko? I can never remember.

[Seil]

Mononoke Hime, thank you very much.

I kinda liked FF:TSW, but I viewed it as a science Fiction movie with very good CG animation. I dun think that it's part of the Final Fantasy legacy.

[Sky Warrior Bob]

http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/679188/Chrisian_Bale_To_Play_Solid_Snake.html

If you're too lazy to click on the above link, Chrisian Bale is apparently in the running for Solid Snake. Give him a mullet & a 5 O'clock shadow, and I could see it.

Maybe.

Still, having a fairly high ranking actor up for the role, does suggest that the movie has promise of being at least half way decent.

SWB

[Mirai Gen]

Well shit, if he can do Batman he can do Solid Snake. I'm totally for it.

[Regulus Tera]

He better start smoking right now if he wants to do a convincing badass voice, though.

[Seil]

Hah - just checked out the second MGS:III disc, and it's got Snake's personality down to a tee... only you're playing Ape Escape as Snake.

"I'll say it once, and only once: I am not fighting any Metal Gears!"

[MFD]

He better start smoking right now if he wants to do a convincing badass voice, though.

Dude, have you SEEN Batman Begins?

BURT: I swear to God!
BATMAN: SWEAR TO ME!

As Batman, Bale makes his voice ridiculously gravelly. He'd be perfect.

[Regulus Tera]

Dude, have you SEEN Batman Begins?

BURT: I swear to God!
BATMAN: SWEAR TO ME!

As Batman, Bale makes his voice ridiculously gravelly. He'd be perfect.

This (http://youtube.com/watch?v=K2AkZ3akTZ4) is by no means this (http://youtube.com/watch?v=zpdaYRh767A). I mean, yes, he does have a gravelly voice and it is stupid to expect another David Hayter, but it is not the level of grave needed to perform Solid Snake. It's miles ahead from him.

Maybe he could just act all his scenes and Hayter voice over him? I better go to sleep.

[NMR]

I really don't care who does snake's voice, but as long as they do it right and well. If not I'll hit on this for months. I'll still see like a dirty rabid fanboy though. It saddens me greatly. Fully linky though. I love taht scene.

[greyfox]

anyone know the month the movie is coming out? i hear its coming out in 2009...i just wanna know when... and i wonder if it will come out in theaters?

[Meister]

At this point most likely the producers themselves don't know the month or anything beyond "2009." And chances are that's not set in stone either.

EDIT: Oh yeah, I was gonna say something about the movie, too.

They really need to make it close to the game in that you only ever directly see Snake carrying out his mission. No cuts to Campbell back at the base or whatever. All we see and hear should be only what Snake sees and hears.

[greyfox]

i remember the long conversations with Snake and the Colonel in MGS1 (thank the lord it was PC edition i played with and i was able to skip it, i was starting to fall asleep) not to mention all the other convos with other people.

[Death by Stabbing]

Bale is the only other person I could see doing Snake besides David...and Sean Connery (because he can do anything XD). As long as they don't use *shudder* Keaneu Reeves...I just can't bare to picture Snake doing a southern California "Whoa..."

Who I'm worried the most about is Ocelot...who's going to do the best villain in video games (you know it's true...Sepheroth can't hold a candle to Revolver...Revolver would fuck him up)

Seriously this is the real problem here

[Lux]

Keanu as Snake? That would be...interesting to say the very least.

[Meister]

Ocelot
Sam Elliott?

[Sky Warrior Bob]

Bale is the only other person I could see doing Snake besides David...and Sean Connery (because he can do anything XD). As long as they don't use *shudder* Keaneu Reeves...I just can't bare to picture Snake doing a southern California "Whoa..."

I dunno, Hugh Jackman might be able to pull it off. He's got the look, and his Wolvie voice is a bit more gravely & closer to what I see as Snake.

As for Sean Connery, I could see him playing Big Boss (Heck, the picture of Big Boss in Metal Gear 2 is almost an exact match). Because if I were to take a guess the story of the Metal Gear movie, will start with the actual Metal Gear storyline, mixed with MGS elements & storytelling.

I disagree with Meister about the communication thing, I think it could still be good if kept to a bare minimum. But with most team character dialogue presented in flashback scenes, much like MGS3 & the MGS1 (at least the Gamecube version, haven't checked the PS1 version lately).

SWB

[Ugainius]

Big Boss was originally based off of Sean Connery.

[Zilla]

Who I'm worried the most about is Ocelot...who's going to do the best villain in video games (you know it's true...Sepheroth can't hold a candle to Revolver...Revolver would fuck him up)

Seriously this is the real problem here

Agreed so hard.

Nothing even comes to mind... We need help!!

[Death by Stabbing]

Sam Elliott?

I thought that too...but Sam has too much of a souther flair to him...not that that's a bad thing in and of itself but Ocelot is Russian...I think it would be too much of a stretch for him...

Also Sean as Big Boss? that would be so sweet...but he says he's not acting anymore...he didn't even do Indiana Jones 4...

There's no one just right that I can think of...Ocelot is a complex character...

[Sky Warrior Bob]

Call me weird, but I'm thinking Chris Cooper (http://www.imdb.com/gallery/granitz/1935/Events/1935/ChrisCoope_Grani_953030_400.jpg.html?path=pgallery&path_key=Cooper,%20Chris%20(I)), might be a good choice for Ocelot. (He's the guy that played the role of Alexander Conklin in the Bourne Identity.)

Then again, I'm not sure bringing in Liquid/Ocelot is exactly a great idea, if you have Big Boss in the picture as well. Big Boss & Liquid (or Big Boss & Ocelot) could work, but I'm not sure about Big Boss, Liquid & Ocelot together. Personally, whatever is done, I hope it isn't a 100% transfer of the Metal Gear plot, just certain similarities & concepts.

Taken as a whole, the Metal Gear plot is just a little too confused for its own sake. Part of that is because the plot of Metal Gear 1 & 2 were fairly simplistic, yet they found themselves wedged into the later MGS plot. I mean, MGS is basically a complete re-tread of the good bits Metal Gear 1 & 2, just with improved storytelling.

So much like the Transformers movie isn't like the old G1 cartoons, I'm hopeful for something that is its own animal as well.

SWB

[Lux]

Then again, I'm not sure bringing in Liquid/Ocelot is exactly a great idea, if you have Big Boss in the picture as well. Big Boss & Liquid (or Big Boss & Ocelot) could work, but I'm not sure about Big Boss, Liquid & Ocelot together. Personally, whatever is done, I hope it isn't a 100% transfer of the Metal Gear plot, just certain similarities & concepts.

Taken as a whole, the Metal Gear plot is just a little too confused for its own sake. Part of that is because the plot of Metal Gear 1 & 2 were fairly simplistic, yet they found themselves wedged into the later MGS plot. I mean, MGS is basically a complete re-tread of the good bits Metal Gear 1 & 2, just with improved storytelling.

So much like the Transformers movie isn't like the old G1 cartoons, I'm hopeful for something that is its own animal as well.

SWB


I'd like to see the movie follow the basic plotline of MGS1. I'm thinking BB should already be dead, Liquid as the main villain with Ocelot lurking and scheming in the background, with BB's genetic legacy and REX being the focal points of the plot itself.

Some things should be different, and I agree the plotline as a whole could be simplified for the film, but I'd like the first film (cause you know if it does well there will be a sequel) to follow, at least to a certain degree, the events of the first game. It would provide a base for them start with. I wouldn't be opposed to the second film being different, cause by then they'd have set up their own canon, sort of like an alternate universe splitting off and running parallel to the games.

One thing I would like to see changed is the whole cloning thing. Snake and Liquid should still be clones of course, but the actual process that created them and the nature of their being (Snake being comprised entirely of recessive genes and Liquid of dominant) as described in the first game is impossible. Granted, so is a guy who can read your thoughts and move things with power of his mind!!! but still. It's one of the littler things that's always annoyed me.

[Ape Boy]

I might just be a huge fan of Deadwood and Rome, but I personally think Ian McShane (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0574534/) could be great as Ocelot and Kevin McKidd (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0571727/) would be great as Liquid.

They'd both have to grow their hair out, but the voice Ian used for Swearengen shows he has the range for Ocelot and Kevin's got the look, the attitude, and can simply tone down his accent some and he's got it.

[Death by Stabbing]

I finally figured out who could be Ocelot!

Geoffrey Rush!

It was so obvious why didn't I think about it before

[Magus]

Yeah, Lee Van Cleef is dead, who Ocelot was basically cloned off of. The best they could do is some OTHER western actor and it would probably end up terrible.