The Quest for the Final Summoning Discussion-2

[CelesJessa]

Alright, continue here with the discussion-y goodness of the FFX RP. (We were going over the limit. ^^; )

[Forever Zero]

Since I only had an OOC to contribute, I'll put it here to avoid clutering the RP...

Jeepers mister, you threaten us and our summoner with excomunication, so of course we're going to love you!

And you wonder why all of our guardians hate you with a vengence....

[Truce]

IHMN, I know how Fayth and Aeons work. I know how aeons are summoned, I know how fayth are created. I know what they're made of, as well as who they're made of. I know how Unsents manifest, and I know what a Dream of the Fayth is.

Trust me, it is not a contradiction. However, there are probably only two ways you'll believe me, and one of them is an explanation, which I won't give yet. The second is if Celes comes in here herself and declares that it's not a contradiction.

Celes unless you have any objections you didn't mention when I sent you the information, I'm guessing you agree with me.

Edit-You can't expect Ripel to not be a little ticked off, can you? Don't think he's not oblivious to your hostility.

[IHateMakingNames]

So we just have to wait and see obviously.

[Forever Zero]

Honestly, I trust Celes as GM of this RP, but I won't really believe the whole thing until it is explained in detail in the RP. I just haven't been bringing it up, because until I know the 'Official Explenation', I don't know if it's a contradiction or not, even though I am suspicious of it's validity...

[CelesJessa]

Well, I think it makes enough sense, personally. And it does explain a few things that never really got answered in FFX. Don't worry guys, it may be a little out of continuity, (just a little) but I don't think it's enough to worry about. Don't worry guys, it'll be alright. have I ever led you astray? (wait... don't answer that... ^^; )

[IHateMakingNames]

You're nicer then the rest of us, so those little things might not be as little, but you just consider them little so Ecurt's thing makes sense.

And if he has to explain things not answered in the game itself (Which I'm not really sure what that could be), that means he is just making stuff up... (Edit) - He might be logically making things up, but it would still be made up stuff...

[Squishy Cheeks]

Were you not a pc my character would probably just poison your food and be done with it, Ecurt. Your charachter is very shifty. And he is always smug. Yep definately either poison or just Bludgeon you when you weren't looking. Mitsu is a Black Mage after all, they are prone to stabbity death.

[Mr. Viewtiful]

Now guys, wait a minute...I've seen Ecurt explain stuff in real life, and trust me, he'd give most lawyers and scholars a run for their money given the chance.

Just give Ripel some room...I mean, go ahead and be suspicious, but don't act like he's the ultimate evil or anything. Trust me, he has a good explanation for this. Just lay off a bit, we don't want a flame war on our hands.

[Bite the Wax Tadpole]

I think the thing is that most of you guys seem to be basing all your hate off OOC things or things he says in Al Bhed which you shouldnt really understand. Sure he showed up and helped you guys and he knew about the Sinspawn, but most of the other stuff was Ecurt saying that his guy was up to no good, not Ripel displaying it. Just lighten up a bit, do we really want this whole RP to be about Raine's group hating Ripel?

[Forever Zero]

How about, we go with how the RP is going, hmm? ripel has been nothign but suspicious. I know my guy will hate him regardless becase the first time Dezil tried to join Raine, he got in an argument with Ripel, so that was when he first hated/was suspicious of him. Everything after that has been suspicious, from the sinspawn, to his general attitude. "Worrying we'll attack him"?! WTF was that? We hate him, but were not going to kill him when his back is turned, so now we're suspicious that he's a paranoid nutcase. So why don't you just chill out and let the RP take it's course, alright? Ripel set the tone with his first encounter, and he isn't getting any less suspicious with every encounter, so I don't see the rivalry/suspicion ending any time soon.

[Truce]

Ugh...look, you guys have a right to be suspicious, and that will not change for a long time. That is the truth.

Also he does have a right to be suspicious of them as well, they could very well have attacked him. Jad's already admitted that if Ripel were not a PC he would simply poison him (but that's ooc), Rei's obviously not Mr. Nice Guy, and he suspects someone had followed him (jumping from roof to roof tends to make some noise) earlier.

Also, that comment assured him that inside and outside the temple they would not attack unless he made the first move, otherwise they'd be going against their summoner's direct wishes. Another thing it tried to do (not sure it succeeded) was make it seem as though he was the one who was feeling threatened by the guardians, not the other way around with him threatening them. Both cases aided him in some way or another.

Now...did I forget to address something I should have?

[Mr. Viewtiful]

You forgot to address the part in which everyone mails Mr. V twenty bucks for...uh...blessing everyone with his great and omnipotent presense.

*gets a whole ton of evil looks*

What?

Back on-topic: Nah, I think you've covered everything, Ecurt. A good job of it, too.

[Squishy Cheeks]

TImeline:

-Braska, Auron, Jecht arrive at Zanarkand.
-Jecht becomes a Fayth.
-Braska summons Jecht
-Jecht becomes sin.
-Braska dies.
-Auron sees this and goes to Zanarkand to confront Yunalesca.
-Yunalesca schools Auron
-Auron crawls down Gagazet tells Kimarhi to take Yuna to Besaid.
-Auron meets Rin.
-Auron dies.
-Auron now unsent rides Sin to Dream Zanarkand.

[IHateMakingNames]

I did not know that. I though Auron died on the first meeting with Yunalesca.

[Bite the Wax Tadpole]

Nope, he got all pissed about his only two friends dying and took it out on the thousand year old goddess...

[Forever Zero]

BUMP

Okay, start using this thread agian for all our OOC stuff, cause were clogging up the RP...

[Bite the Wax Tadpole]

Ok, I think we need to have an official list of who can and cannot speak and understand Al Bhed, instead of all this springing up of "Hey, I speaky Al Bhedy too!!!1"

So far the only confirmed ones are Zita (Al Bhed), Yngwie (Al Bhed), and Ripel (good reason thats been confirmed by Celes).

The 'wannabes' are Dezil (learned it off-hand from a rogue monk who learned it off hand) and Rei (decided to join the Al Bhed after a life being taught that they were evil...)

Anybody else wanna jump on the badwagon?

[IHateMakingNames]

I said Rei spoke it a long time ago. And Rei is not religious, so he didn't really care what Yevon people said. Also he joined Crusaders, and they care even less. Then he met with Al-Bheds, learned the language, got his weapons, went on his way.

If he can't speak Al-Bhed, I don't see why you're guy knows whatever the non Al-Bhed language is...

[Bite the Wax Tadpole]

Rin knew it, and lets just say that Ripel and Zita exchanged languages.

[IHateMakingNames]

And every other Al-Bhed but Rikku, Cid, and Rin didn't know it. And Rin was a first, since he made stores all over Spira.

[CelesJessa]

Well, I'll just say, some people went overboard with GMing and here is my idea:

1. IHMN, you were hit by the hammer, but now you're alright because you were healed (and in the FF world, what's a hammer? I've seen grenades do diddly-squat worth of damage. ^^;; hehe)
2. Yes, Dante did GM a little much, but he is a reoccurring villian, and Villains are entitiled to a little bit of being stronger than others... Just remember to tone it down in the future.
3.JAD, you GMed a bit too because you were totally trying to smash Yngwie's head in, and well... yeah. I'm sure you can figure out what's wrong with that.
4. Forever Zero- don't plunge your sword into Yngwie's heart in the RP, it will just cause more GMing and we want to avoid that. If you still want to try and strike, have Yngwie roll out of the way at the last second and just get a wound rather than run through.

Alls fair?


And not everyone is going to know Al Bhed, I'm saying as a forwarning, because... this is before FFX and how many normal people know Al Bhed in FFX besides the Al Bhed- barely any. And I really doubt there's be more people back so many years before who would know it.

And i'm assuming most everyone would be able to speak the major language in Spira because it's just that: The major language in spira.
I mean, in other countries, a lot of them have to learn at least a little English, just because the U.S. is a superpower.

But even then, IHMN has a point and not all Al Bhed would know the "other language" because remember, Brother didn't know English (what I'm going to call it) but he taught himself it so he could speak to Yuna.

[IHateMakingNames]

Shouldn't Dante be dying around now though, seeing as he is leaving on the 9th?

And if he is going to GM, he could at least only do it to those that did it to him (Jad), and not throw in other characters randomly (Rei was added in very end with random attack).

Of course, I am now planning on blinding him because of that (Permantantly in one eye), so it should all be evened out.

[Forever Zero]

I don't plan on stabbing him in the heart, just to make sure that the battle ends, because while Dezil is hopped up in overdrive mode, he is just as fast as Yngwie, so Yngwie can't go, "I avoid you sword at faster then the speed of light, kill all of you, then grab Raine and take her to Mars in seconds with my inhumanly fast speed!" Dezil isn't interested in killing him, making him go away is good enough for right this second.

[CelesJessa]

Shouldn't Dante be dying around now though, seeing as he is leaving on the 9th?
No Yngwie will just not be bothering us while he's gone, so he'll still have something to do when he returns. And if the 9th comes before we wrap up what Yngwie is doing, we'll figure something out.


Of course, I am now planning on blinding him because of that (Permantantly in one eye), so it should all be evened out.
Just be careful of God moding... Just because everyone else did doesn't mean everyone should go "Hey, it's my turn to God Mode!" And then we all get into a fight... fun fun.
And I don't know how good of a revenge blinding somebody in one eye would be. But it is better than chopping both of his arms and legs off and leaving him to die.

(EDIT: alright Forever Zero, just making sure you're not going to totally kill him.)

Just everyone... lay off the god moding please.

[IHateMakingNames]

I deserve to get to do something. So far our mage has been smacking the super warrior around with a giant hammer, the super warrior poinsed him and threw a giant hammer with no problem at all at the fastest person there, Dezil has done three overdrives already and beat up the super warrior, Argoth stombed on a giant Ochu's head, Zita has been blowing apart wolves left and right with his machina guns and instantly healed two people, while all Rei has done is grabbed someone shoulders who is apartantly immune to all status alignments.

[CelesJessa]

I deserve to get to do something. So far our mage has been smacking the super warrior around with a giant hammer, the super warrior poinsed him and threw a giant hammer with no problem at all at the fastest person there, Dezil has done three overdrives already and beat up the super warrior, Argoth stombed on a giant Ochu's head, Zita has been blowing apart wolves left and right with his machina guns and instantly healed two people, while all Rei has done is grabbed someone shoulders who is apartantly immune to all status alignments.

Point taken, just don't overdo it...

[Bite the Wax Tadpole]

How is mixing up a hi-potion god-modding...and check back to the first discussion, my guns are powerful but slowshooting...

[Forever Zero]

Hey, I've only done one Overdrive this battle, and I didn't use one on the Ochu. One overdrive per major battle isn't overdoing it.

[IHateMakingNames]

Yes, but your 'slow' dual pistols are doing as much damage as the melee people, plus being range...

And I would do my overdrive, but since Yngwie is immune to everything, an overdrive of every status alignment wouldn't do much...

[Dante]

I kind of expected this to happen... All right.

FZ - I don't know how Dezil completely slipped my mind. Sorry. My bad. However, I would like to know how I was supposed to know that Dezil was doing an overdrive when he simply said he was swinging the sword down on my head?

IHMN - For all your moaning and groaning about status effects, notice that Rei said he "was casting" Darkness and Silence, NOT he "had already cast them on Yngwie" If you're not going to be specific enough, don't blame me for doing what I did. Also, if you want to whine about being godmoddy, then what about the MAGE who can put a boss character down with two hits? Or the gunner who likes to appear out of nowhere as long as the summoner is around?, and use his status spells without the medium of his guns? They're called "status alignment SHOTS" for a reason, you know.

That said, I'll try to keep the god-modding down in future. Part of the problem was because I didn't read the preceding events well enough, and because I'm more used to set-piece battles (IE I talk to FZ about dueling Dezil, we agree that I'll lose, then I write the whole thing).

And another thing - if I slip up, and forget, please let me know, because I tend to gloss over details when I do stuff.

[Forever Zero]

The overdrive is what he is doing now. He was just normally fighting before so I sort of expected a dodge. He snapped into overdrive from all the previous battling, and the fact that Raine is now threatened.

[IHateMakingNames]

No idea where you just got the mage and two hit boss kills.

He doesn't appear out of no where, he was always there.

And I mentioned before he just uses the guns as a medium to cast his spells. Remember when he pulled the spines out of the dragoons legs and cast darkness on those? And I said casting because I assumed you were going to say at least one of them your guy was immune to, while the other would actually do something instead of just ignoring it all together. (Edit) - I usually let the target choose if they get hit (Though you already had poison not affect you, and besides poison, darkness and silence, all other status alignments suck), so I assumed you would at least take one of them.

[Darth SS]

Woah. I believe I speak for many when I say, "Oh god...another seven hours until we get our overdrives back. Oh well...could be worse."

Yah. Wait 'till you see Uran's overdrive. ^^ (and it has nothing to do with Legend of Dragoon)

[Bite the Wax Tadpole]

Is it all your dragons turning into flamethrowers...cuz it better not be fusing...or even worse, all your mini-dragons turning into real dragons...

[Darth SS]

No, no, and no.

It does involve mostly the dragons though.

[Forever Zero]

I second BTWT... There will be pain inflicted if it is either one... Or if it is summoning a dragon...

[Bite the Wax Tadpole]

Well I could see all the dragons using their breath together to make a fire breath, but not individual fire breaths...and it can't really involve SS's guy, because he has no real powers other than the dragon link.

[Mr. Viewtiful]

Yo, all.

Wow, I missed a lot. Looks kinda like what happened in the BotB RP. hehehehehe...

And I assumed Drake would be the fastest of the guardians. Well, you know what they say about 'assume' (heed these wise words, everyone):

It makes an ASS out of U/YOU and ME.

[IHateMakingNames]

Drake for the long runs would, but dodging wise and close range it would probably be Rei.

[Darth SS]

If it means anything, I got the idea when I was sewing.

[Bite the Wax Tadpole]

So...its a gay overdrive (OK yall, I'm gunna STYLIZE you to death, FABULOUS!)

[Forever Zero]

So...its a gay overdrive (OK yall, I'm gunna STYLIZE you to death, FABULOUS!)

*Snicker*

[Darth SS]

Wow, why do people always assume I'm gay?

I sew, I garden, I bake, I play the flute.

Actually think abuot it like this....

Sewing...PYROMANIAC STYLE.

[IHateMakingNames]

A net of fire?

Or do all of the dragons turn into those guy's from Queer Eye for the Straight Guy, fighter style, and make the human guy into something for a little bit.

[Bite the Wax Tadpole]

Hey, don't blast baking, I bake the meanest kaluha cake this side of the Mississip'...but even I snicker at sewing (even my mom quit)

But maybe could you give us a hazy outline of what you were thinking, so we can avoid thirty "YOU (*&%^&$ God Modder"

[Forever Zero]

1. I just thought the idea of that overdrive was pretty funny...

2. I... am at a loss for words, so I'll just sit back and wait for this Overdrive...

[Dante]

How about a multihit combo with the dragons charging the enemy or something? And just because SS can do traditionally feminine stuuf doesn't mean he's gay... you ARE straight, aren't you, SS?

*Starts tip-toeing away*

[Darth SS]

The sketchy outline is that each dragon gets like a stream of fire. Then basically covers the target in a yarn ball. That then implodes. Oh, and the dragons get a lot faster, so they aren't as easy to hit when doing this.

And yes I'm straight.

[Mr. Viewtiful]

That's cool.

Don't dis STYLE, man. Look at Viewtiful Joe: his style is so immense he could kick butt while still impressin' the ladies. That, my friends, take skill.

[IHateMakingNames]

Who hasn't been able to figure out Dante's guy's past?

[Bite the Wax Tadpole]

He can afford to be a little predictable, hes not gunna be able to post as much.

[IHateMakingNames]

What's Baaj? That the Ixion place?

[CelesJessa]

What's Baaj? That the Ixion place?

It's originally the temple in FFX where you get Anima, but since Anima doesn't exist, we're saying that that is where Yojimbo used to be kept, since that place was obviously a temple-like place before Seymour got there, so that's where he was stolen from... It's on an island near Besaid and Kilika.