Rebirth of Destruction Discussion 3

[Krylo]

New one, last was at 107 replies.

OOC: Do we have to wait for either krylo or Ren to make it the next day, or can we just do that ourselves? (If so I'll edit in my post)

You can do it now if you like... seems like everyone is done with what they wanted to do THIS day. I was about to talk to Ren about doing some stuff for the next day anyway...

And Jad, you'll know what to do as soon as I get around to making a next post.

Also, could you guys post here instead of in the RP if you don't want to say anything IC? Even if it's a respond to someone else's post? It'd be nice.

http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?t=2033, there's the signup thread so people can see it without having to go back through pages.

[IHateMakingNames]

I did use the discussion, but not for last post since I didn't want to double post...

[Krylo]

In answer to your question in the RP: Faeries can be given life-long orders, yes... although they can be counteracted by another order.

And Ciaran's name was better when it was his first name... heh.

[IHateMakingNames]

I don't feel like going back and editing, but before he would not have given the order to mention vampire and nymph glamour when she was taking the slaves to their rooms. Otherwise he just cancelled her life orders.

And I didn't want to completely steal the name/character...

[Krylo]

Well... just because the name came up... Ciaran is celtic for darkness or black-haired, and Atropos is the name of the fate who cut the thread of life in greek mythology... which is why I used it for a character with little to no respect for life, and actually enjoyed watching slaughter. Evil guy that he is.

[IHateMakingNames]

Well, he is coming to watch blood sports... And I will play him out as evil (Though that might make him dead in Vlad's castle...) then.

[Krylo]

Meh, play him however you like... I was just rambling about this and that...

[Forever Zero]

I'm tempted to have Zalbag's band discover Vlad's castle, but that would most likely end up in a fight, so I'll avoid it.

Oh, and sorry aobut the OOC, I'll remove it and put it here.

EDIT: SS, if you want, you can have your character on a horse and as part of this group.

[IHateMakingNames]

Why would it end up in a fight? Vlad is expecting many people to come, seeing as he is having a large tournament (He is going to change it to every male slave because I feel like it), and he would assume your group is coming early for whatever reason as unexpected guest (Your slightly above commoners).

Unless of course your entire group is against slaves, which wouldn't make that much sense since it is a common thing in this world..

[Forever Zero]

Well, my guy may be against slaves. He won't be Jad's "End slavery with much righteousness and fury!", but he finds it uncomfortable at best. The others most likely wouldn't, being mercenaries that would do whatever necessary. Also, if my guy somehow found out Vlad was a vampire (Which I realise wouldn't be likely since he hides it, but it's possible), then my guy would either attack him, or run with the intenton of informing the Order later, and since Vlad tries to keep his vampireism a secret, he would probably try to kill Zalbag if he tried to release the secret.

But, I might do it anyway, just so my guy can do something. He is ahead of schedule for the Vault.

Oh, and it may be common, but there are always those that oppose the order of things. Slavery may have been common in the south during the civil war era, but that doesn't mean there weren't southern born abolitionists.

[IHateMakingNames]

Chances of anyone discovering that he is a vampire for a while is very unlikely until he decides that other people should know... And yeah, if Zalbag figured out he would not get out of the castle alive (I think Vlad has more forces then the small mercenary group)

If you do, the castle is on a hill north of the mining town.

And I know there would be, but it's not very common (usually).

[Krylo]

Looking at the way Zalbag acts, I would have thought of him as being totally neutral on the point of slavery, although, I suppose going against the normal order is considered 'cool' for all those young mages. Probably became a pyromancer to rebel against his magic-hatin' parents, who still tell people, "Our son ain't no fruity mage! It's just a phase!"

Anyway, to actually be on topic and not just typing nonsense and dribble: I kinda like the idea of Zalbag meeting Vlad. It would make it easier for them to end up working together later, even if they end up not particularily liking each other, it would give them familiarity.

I also like this Jared NPC you've introduced... he reminds me of what I may have ended up as if I wouldn't have taken a sudden turn for being an incredible slacker in fourth grade.

Also, if Jad wants to cross the path that Zalbag and group are taking, and meet up with them briefly on his way to the capitol, even though it would only be a brief meeting, I'll allow that too. Again, it will give him some familiarity, and with a mage who--apparenty, judging by riding with mercs of all races--isn't too racist himself... which would probably make a member of a race that's generally hated have a little more respect. Up to you guys, FZ and JAD, though, whether he crosses paths with you on your respective ways or if he meets you later.

Oh, and, JAD, don't be too stealthy in the city... or kill anyone that attacks you. In the forest the stealth thing is understandable, by moving through trees and stuff... but it's not quite the same in a large metropolitan area where no one that looks like you wanders about. And, as for the killing, that'll just get you in trouble.

Edit (was going to have this at the top of my new IC post, but decided that, because it was almost as long as my whole post, it'd do better her):
After JAD finishes up MSTing the huge couple pages worth of posts thing between Ren and Jareth I'm going to consolidate it all into one (if it will all fit, if not into two posts... editing the earliest posts and then deleting the others, and having Ren do the same with hers) because we took up a lot of pages of that without actually doing what I wanted to do between them in this chapter. Just a heads up so you don't think the huge drop in post number coming up is some cataclysmic event.

Oh, and JAD... it should take a few IC days for you to reach the imperial capital, although you may run into a small village or two along the way. Just figure it should be a few days travel from the outpost to the capital.

Also, there'll be more between Ren and Jareth tomorrow... but for now I made a post about what the ogre tribes are doing.



Oh, and FZ, if you have something IC to say as well, I don't care if you put an ooc thing in the message. It's just the purely ooc posts that bother me a little, and even those aren't a BIG deal, just a minor annoyance.

[Forever Zero]

I was going for the more apathetic stance on other races and slavery, and a sort of, "Don't throw it in my face, and I don't care," but it's sort of hard to not notice when the entire castle is practically run by slaves. Of course, if he summoned a fire elemental or something and bound it to his service, that would be a form of slavery, so I'll probably play him as being totally apathetic to matters that don't directly relate to him.

[IHateMakingNames]

It's not completely run by slaves... Just the building is... Outside on the walls surrounding the castle there are some human guards from the village.

Edit - There are also some Xodars around the castle...

Edit 2 -The town also has some Gnome slaves in it, seeing as I'm bored and skimming the races attachments and it says Gnomes are mining slaves, and Vlad owns a mining town.

Edit 3 - Was bored, so made a general list of the slaves.

Male slaves-
Bugbear - Fighting
Orc - Fighting
Troll - Fighting
Naga - Fighting
Feles - Fighting
Human – Butlers/Cleaners and a couple of fighters
Gnome - Miners
(May also do some manual labor when needed, like fixing a collapsed roof)

Female Slaves-
Human
Nymph
Feles
Dryad
Neried
(All do random chores around the castle and are concubines)

[Forever Zero]

IHMN, if you want anything changed about my guys description or events, just say so. I was assuming about the mist since Vlad could hire a mage to enchant the castle to always be in a sun blocking mist or something, and it would allow Vlad to wander his own castle without having to keep up a constant shadow and having to maintain focus on that if he wanted to walk outside.

[IHateMakingNames]

There is no mist, instead Vlad just got rid of windows and replaced them with many torches (Magical torches) and chandeliers (Magical chandeliers).

And since the fights are in four hours, you're going to be ignored for a couple of post...

Edit - Still have to settle in Celes' character.

[Forever Zero]

No prbelm, I'll remove the mist, and I'll just post randomly that my guy is getting annoyed at the mercenaries for making them wait for this...

[Squishy Cheeks]

We need to work out a mechanic for Vlad's powers otherwise he's going to piss the PCs off. Cause if he tries to dominate me I'm just going to give him the finger and tail whip him into sumbission.

[IHateMakingNames]

Tail whip with a 40 foot tail? Anacondas don't whip their pray (Cause they can't), they strangle them...

[Squishy Cheeks]

Tail whip is my species special attack. I've seen an alligator tail whip a dog before. It hit the spaniel so hard it halved the dog at the midsection. If Jo hit's you with his tail it would hurt. It would hurt alot.

[IHateMakingNames]

An alligator has a short tail though... Your guy's tail is long, making it not as good for whipping (Though whips are long, they aren't nearly as long as the tail and are very thin)

And now that I think about, going by the stats, Vlad could grab the tip of your tail and prevent it from whipping.

[Squishy Cheeks]

Your forgetting something. My tail is longer than your arm so I can exert far more foot pounds of torque than you can. You try to hold on to my tail and you're going for a ride.

[IHateMakingNames]

Your tail either has to be very thin, or extremely large... If it's large, then it would be slower and not as much of a problem. If it's thin (For a tail), then it's just like a thick whip (And would be easier to hold onto)

[Squishy Cheeks]

I can still grab you with my prehinsile tail and toss you around the room.

[IHateMakingNames]

If you can grab onto him. Vlad is faster then Jo.

Edit - Not in a long run, but fights rarely involve those.

[Squishy Cheeks]

Maybe so but Jo can move very quickly, and hit very hard. (Basic physics. if he moves the base of his tail one foot a second. the tip of his tail travels at 40 feet per second. And that's if he keeps his tail stiff. If he curls it in. He can get the tip to go even faster.

[IHateMakingNames]

I still think it's not very possible to whip your tail around, unless you do it like how snakes whip their heads at prey, meaning you would have to use your tail as a base and then lift and whip it. Then it's easy to see it coming.

[Squishy Cheeks]

Easy to see it coming, hard to get out of the way.

[Forever Zero]

And whe're off on another IHMN and JADGuy debate...

[Squishy Cheeks]

This one is mostly jovial. I'm just maintaining that it would hurt a lot if Jo got in a hit.

[CelesJessa]

And whe're off on another IHMN and JADGuy debate...

Place your bets while you can!

Hey, as long as their not trying to actually kill each other's characters, then it's alright.. And if they don't argue about it now, they're going to have to once their characters finally meet anyway.... ^^ Just lets not use the ENTIRE thread discussing this unless you both are willing comprimise instead of just throwing facts and opinions at each other, then not giving a rat's butt about the other person's points in the matter.

[IHateMakingNames]

Jad is saying that if Vlad got hit by the tail, it would hurt. I am saying that it is not easy to hit Vlad with said tail. I think we're done now anyway.

[Forever Zero]

Hey, as long as their not trying to actually kill each other's characters, then it's alright

Ugh, our lowest hour in Perditions...

Although it is true that at least it isn't OOC in the RP itself and it's in the discussion where it belongs...

[CelesJessa]

Although it is true that at least it isn't OOC in the RP itself and it's in the discussion where it belongs...

I think that Perdition's is the whole reason people use discussion threads with their RPs now. ^^;; hahaha. Just joking.

And we're just joking with you guys, I'm glad you two weren't trying to bite each other's heads off and were discussing it like mature people.
...Have a cookie.

[IHateMakingNames]

Did you ever choose an appearance for your character Celes? (Not really that important, but would be good to know what she offically looks like)

[CelesJessa]

Did you ever choose an appearance for your character Celes? (Not really that important, but would be good to know what she offically looks like)

Hm. I never really officially chose one, no. I wasn't sure how I should design her... but I'll try and think of something. (They do look like humans, right?)

[IHateMakingNames]

I've just been picturing the person in your profile picture. (Yes they look human...)

[CelesJessa]

I've just been picturing the person in your profile picture. (Yes they look human...)

The blonde haired one, not my red haired avatar? (I'll think of something sooner or later... hopefully.. hmm. *thinks* )

[IHateMakingNames]

Yes the blonde one. A red haired and eyed (I think) person doesn't seem to fit with a water race...

[CelesJessa]

Yes the blonde one. A red haired and eyed (I think) person doesn't seem to fit with a water race...

Good point. (strange, I didn't think of that)

*gets out a paper and pencil, hoping to create a character, but then remembers her scanner is broken.* Aw.. I'll just have to think of a way to describe her in words now.... or oekaki her...

[IHateMakingNames]

You could find a picture on the internet like I did. Google image search and keep going till you find a picture you like (Might not work very well with the word 'Neried' though)

Edit - I did that because I can't draw though, while you can...

[CelesJessa]

Alright, I found a few ones I like, which one should I use? (I personally like the middle two the best, but I'm not sure about which one I should use)
Or should I not use any of them and go looking again?

[Forever Zero]

It's you choice, but I think the third one, wings, looks the most like what a Neraid might look like in my opinion.

[IHateMakingNames]

Third one, but no wings...

Edit - Forever, you're not being ignored anymore in RP by the way.

[CelesJessa]

Ah good good, I liked the third one the best too, (and it's the first one I found! I should have stopped back when I found it. ^^;; )

So Aidelyn looks like the third picture, just without wings. (it is official) I was wanting to do a silver-haired character. ^^

[IHateMakingNames]

So far we have three silver/white haired people... Ren's, your's and mine (Because I changed the appearance from what his bio says to the picture I used)

(repost)

Aren't Naga's top halves human looking? Because then wouldn't it not be possible for a Naga to eat like a real snake, and have to eat like a human?

[Squishy Cheeks]

You just don't want me to have another graphic meal description do you?

[IHateMakingNames]

I don't care about that, I just don't think Nagas can eat like that, having human heads and throats.

(Repost)

You realize there are only seven people in Vlad's private booth, including Vlad and Zalbag. No one outside of the booth can see this (Those across the stadium can see into the booth, but not very well)

[CelesJessa]

You realize there are only seven people in Vlad's private booth, including Vlad and Zalbag. No one outside of the booth can see this (Those across the stadium can see into the booth, but not very well)

True, but seven people would be enough to irritate you if you had to dance like that. Especially if even 4 of the seven were leering.


You know, this remindes me of whne I went to see a hockey game in one of those really fancy booths. ^^ I got to watch the game in the same booth with Mudhammid Ali (sp?)... (sorry, random thought, it's just what the booth is reminding me of, except instead of dancers, there were a million security guards)

[IHateMakingNames]

I was more of talking to Forever, who said closest rows when there are only seven people in the room which as a row of six chairs, then Vlad's chair behind that... And I just realized a big flaw in the room... So instead of dancing in the front, you are in the back (So Vlad is in front and the rest are in the back). Otherwise they can't really see the fights below if there is a big area infront of the glass... And let's just say the chairs can turn around.

[Squishy Cheeks]

I like Mohammed Ali He was very nice when I met him. My uncle is his next door neighbor.

[CelesJessa]

I like Mohammed Ali He was very nice when I met him. My uncle is his next door neighbor.

Don't make fun of me. *tears* I did meet him though...


Anyhoo. that has nothing to do with anything anyway. But those boxes are nice to sit in when you're watching a game.

[Forever Zero]

Question, does that mean that Vlad is in the front seat now, right? And also the other seat confusion had to do with me thinking there were more people then there were. Just double checking before I post.

[IHateMakingNames]

(Edit) Nevermind. He is telepathic, he senses it.

So yes, Vlad is in front.

[Forever Zero]

Well, I was about to post the opposite, of my guy not being able to see your guy, but then I rememberd you saying that, so I was just double checking.

[IHateMakingNames]

No one is going to like Vlad, are they?

Edit - I thought I had Jareth for a while, then he makes a small speech about hating slavery, and how there aren't many things that he hates...

[Krylo]

Meh, Jareth doesn't like it... at all, but he puts up with it as that it's, literally, everywhere. He probably won't want to kill you for being a slaver, or even hate you for it, maybe have dislike for you, but at the end he'll just chalk THAT up to the times and society... he'll probably dislike you quite severely when/if he finds out what you do to people with attractive daughters, however.

[IHateMakingNames]

And wives, don't forget about their hot wives. Or the other slavers who are going to lose much of their gains from rigged fights and mind tricks.

Which brings me to a question... Can Vlad change how people think and their emotions (Besides fear)? An example would be later, in a fight he can make one of the slavers want to bet if they don't want to, and make them choose who to bet for (Not really make them, but force it into their heads during the fights and dancing for the next fight while everyone is to distracted to notice the changes in the people)

[Krylo]

Or the other slavers who are going to lose much of their gains from rigged fights and mind tricks.Now see, this is something Jareth would see as a good use of those powers of yours, and would probably just ellicit a good chuckle from him.

And, he can to an extent... his domination is mastered, right? They don't know they're being dominated (being as that they don't have the will of a mage/psioncist and you're very good at it), so any thoughts you put into their heads, such as 'Betting on this next guy would be a good idea!' they'd think are their own. Also, the awe ability could be used for the emotion thing, although I don't know how a raw emotion would make them want to bet. Fear spell for the MUD... but I don't see why you couldn't make people feel other emotions for short times, as well.

You also don't necessarily have to psionically crush everyone. It just makes it easier to take over their mind when you weaken it first.

[Forever Zero]

Well, my guy doesn't care about the slaves, but he won't be so happy when he learns he's a vampire. There is a fine line between owning a person as property, and sucking the blood out of and manipulating the minds of others. Also a question, if Vlad tried any mental tricks on Zalbag, Zalbag would notice and resist, and realize what it was, just not know who it came from, right? I would think wizards would want to be able to train in things like that...

And I know they have the willpower, just didn't know what it would allow other then resisting Vlad's or other mind mages powers.

[IHateMakingNames]

I didn't know I could use domination in such a manipulative way... Figured it was just mind control only. Oh, and Vlad may end up taking the slavers daughters/wives/cocubines (Depends on if I feel like it...)


Being exicited could lead to bad bets... Only emotion I can think of that would do that though...

Zalbag would notice and resist, though if give time Vlad could take over any of you. (It would be faster with Ren or Celes' character, seeing as he can use Memorize at the same time)

And to win his bets Vlad isn't only using his powers... Fights are rigged, but in ways that the slavers won't notice.

[Krylo]

It would allow resistance to a point... and no you wouldn't know who it came from.

Vlad would try domination, he wouldn't succeed, you'd feel someone in your head, but you wouldn't know who. Vlad would try psionic crush, he may or may not succeed (although he could eventually), you'd know someone was attacking you, but you wouldn't know who. If he succeeded it'd take a few crushes before he beat you down enough to ensure the ability to get into your head, but you would get a little 'stupider' each time.

Basically, if he felt like taking over your mind through the second manner, your character (judging by his disrespect for everyone else, and, by extension, PROBABLY a lack of respect for their lives), may just decide to burn everything in the room in order to escape, or get the hell out of there.

Edit: And only if you look Ren or Celes's characters in the eyes, IHMN.

Edit2: He could also use ego-whip to break down your self-confidence so you wouldn't fight his attempts to take over as strongly... again, it would take a little while (you arrogant prick), or ID insinuation to drive you insane and make your mind easy to take over that way. There was another 'attack mode' but I can't remember what it is right now.... just found it. Mind thrust... which would be somewhat like psionic crush.

[IHateMakingNames]

Do mages have to do hand motions or anything besides saying the words to cast spells, or are words (Or not even those) only needed?

Edit - Vlad is stronger then everyone but Ecurt's guy (physically), so it's not that hard to force eye contact...

[Forever Zero]

Ohh, burning down everyone in the room, I like that...

Of course, Ssslara would have to survive to tell him about traps in the Vault, and Dezil would have to survive or the mercenaries might leave, but he probably wouldn't have a problem burning down everyone in sight if he thought they were trying to take over his mind.

And I'm curious about how magic specifically works too.

[Krylo]

Depends on the spell. A quick 'burning hands' spell would take a wave of their hand... and that's only really to 'direct' the spell. If you tied them down they could still cast it, but the spell would just fly straight from their fingertips, so they couldn't aim it... for a 'firenet' spell, it'd only take a chant... and if a mage becomes very good in a spell that doesn't require limb aiming, they may be able to do it just through concentrations.

And, if they close their eyes, it would be. Also, Ren... in a few IC weeks, will have VERY strong magical power, although little knowledge over how to control it... it will be explained why when that happens. Anyway, point being, if Vlad tried to force eye contact she'd probably use a gust of wind to knock him across the room, and then leave him burning with a fireball, although, right now... he could.

[IHateMakingNames]

It's hard to knock someone back when they are holding onto you... She would be forced back with me. (I would think while being memorized you are unable to close your eyes...)

And I really want some psychokineseis powers now*... Sure I control almost all NPCs, but I still like knowing I can at least put up a fight against PCs...

Edit - *Now meaning I want to gain those later, just I have decided now that later I want those powers.

[CelesJessa]

Edit - Vlad is stronger then everyone but Ecurt's guy (physically), so it's not that hard to force eye contact...
But they could close their eyes, like Krylo said, or wrench out of your grasp (it's hard to get that good of a hold on somebody's face to force eye contact if they are struggling,), or at the very least they could give him a swift kick...

But really, how does the whole "Mesmorize" or any of the mind control work anyway?(just the fundimentals) Like, does it take a moment once they make eye contact before anything happens, can they tell somebody is intruding on their thoughts, but just not able to do anything about it? (just wanna know in case Vlad ever tries to control Aidelyn's mind.)

[IHateMakingNames]

He doesn't need memorize for Aidelyn... Since you are not a mage, and nerieds don't have a high int/wis/other mind involve stats, her mind is easier to control... (Block kick with leg by the way).

And memorize is magic... It makes it easier to suck blood out of people (Stop the resisting first with it). I just threw it in randomly while making the vampire bio, then it carried over, but with telepathy I figured I would never need it... I assumed it at least some what forced the victim to not struggle...

Edit - And for Ren/Jad, yes a kick there would affect Vlad since it works.

[Krylo]

Memorize doesn't really control someone's mind, at least as far as I picture it...

Think of the most attractive person in the world. Beautiful in movement, mind, and body... now multiply that times ten. When a vampire memorizes you, that's what you start to think about them, until you break eye contact. There is a brief struggle of wills, but it's much more likely to work than say... domination. Also, it only works on someone who would normally be attracted to a person of the vampire's gender...

The reason it makes people stop struggling is because most people would just melt in his arms, and wouldn't mind a little neck bite from someone they see as that attractve.

And... it would have an effect on Vlad being able to dominate a PC girl's mind in that it would break down their will to resist him a little bit, and redirect their attention away from the fact that he's in their head.

As for how they work exactly... he concentrates, and his own will/inner power conflicts with your will, as well as his knowledge on how to manipulate his own inner power. If your will is as strong as, or stronger than, his will + inner power, you resist it. If you're a little weaker there's a battle of wills (as that it's your head, it's a bit harder for him to gain control than it is for you to keep it), if you're more than a little weaker, he wins by default.

If you're as strong, stronger, or just a little weaker, he can also weaken you using the various 'attack modes' I listed.

And, as I said, you never know where it's coming from if you resist, but you know it's coming... umm... if there's something else you need clarification on, just ask.

[IHateMakingNames]

Except of course you've mentioned several times how most people (The PC) have a stronger will then Vlad...

Edit - Unless of course Vlad could just use Daydream, Awe, Id Insinuation, Ego whip, and such in any mix of one or more in a short amount of time and it would stick, but as how you've been explaining things it would seem like Vlad would have to concentrate to keep those effects on the target.

Edit 2 - Ecurt's guy, Celes' girl, and Jad's guy seem like they would be nothing to the rest of the PCs...

[Krylo]

Not most people, just the ones able to use magic decently. Jormungand, Rovial, and Aidelyn all have weaker wills than Vlad. The others have about equal, which, as I said, still makes it very difficult for you to gain control because you're attacking them on their home turf. And most people aren't mages... which is why I said I didn't want that many at the beginning. Mages are looked down upon and feared by the commoners.

Also, Awe/Daydream aren't attack modes... Id Insinuation, Psionic Crush, Ego Whip, and Mind Thrust are the ones that you could use to weaken them. All of those powers don't require you to concentrate to keep them in effect when used as an attack mode.

Id insinuation doesn't make them go as crazy when used as an attack mode, but it does confuse them, ego whip makes them feel inferior for a few seconds to minutes, it's just a quick lash... etc. etc.

[CelesJessa]

Ah, Thanks for the explaination. ^^ (well, Aidelyn has a strong will power, but I don't know if it's stronger than Vlads...)

(just a random thought, but ever since Aidelyn has been my character, The song "I'm a slave for you" keeps popping up in my head and getting stuck... If it keeps happening, I might just go insane and kill you all. (I dislike Britney Spears a LOT, and I dislike that song even more so.... grr...)) *eye twitches* (Then when THAT song isn't stuck in my head "I've got a lovely bunch of coconuts" somehow gets stuck in my head..... grr..... I swear I'm going to go insane.)


Oh yeah, off the current topic, but how long do you think it will be before Vlad, Aidelyn, etc etc get into the main story? (just wondering, not nagging or anything) And will Aidelyn still be Vlad's slave even after they are travelling with the rest of the heros?

[Krylo]

When the thing happens to introduce you all to the rest of the story (around the third chapter, maybe late second or very early fourth, if the posts keep coming as quick as they did yesterday), it's going to be up to the players whether you're still his slave. Same with Rovial (Ecurt's character).

I'll toss Vlad something to do (and by extension his slaves) in the next chapter, if he doesn't come up with something himself.

[IHateMakingNames]

Screw choice, you're mine...

Can I go find a super powerful psionic artifact like Forever is doing with his fire amulet thing?


Edit - I can see Awe/Daydream for attacking purposes. Awe will make them scared, so they will either make rash attacks or be to scared to fight back. Daydream will cause them to lose their concentration, making them easier targets.

[Krylo]

I'd rather give you some way to use psychokinesis or something, as opposed to allowing you to make your psionics in general even stronger. Really... a powered up domination for someone with your character's morals gives me the heebie jeebies.

And... alright, awe/daydream can be used for that as well.

[IHateMakingNames]

Ok, a super powerful psychokinesis amulet...

And to involve Aidelyn and Rovial, he will bring Aidelyn for entertainment, and Rovial to disarm traps and go first in dangerous areas.

[Krylo]

Alright... just try to be back at the village by chapter three, is all... and, uh, remove the super from that 'super powerful' yada yada.

[Forever Zero]

Bah, no problems, if he tried anything, I'll throw out a fire net and keep him in line. And my aritfact wasn't going to be "Super" powerful, just enhance his fire abilities/powers some, so he can cast his higher level spells more easily.

[IHateMakingNames]

If you tried anything I would make you think you're a chicken...

And soon I will be able to control fire...

Can I replace the word super instead of remove it?

[Krylo]

Only if you replace it with something like 'quasi' or 'sort of'... a 'powerful' amulet, no extra adjectives necessary, is quite enough, I think.

[CelesJessa]

Screw choice, you're mine...

You're really enjoying this whole slave-owner thing, aren't you?

[IHateMakingNames]

You're really enjoying this whole slave-owner thing, aren't you?

Yes. Especially with this new knowledge.

Think of the most attractive person in the world. Beautiful in movement, mind, and body... now multiply that times ten. When a vampire memorizes you, that's what you start to think about them, until you break eye contact. There is a brief struggle of wills, but it's much more likely to work than say... domination. Also, it only works on someone who would normally be attracted to a person of the vampire's gender...

The reason it makes people stop struggling is because most people would just melt in his arms, and wouldn't mind a little neck bite from someone they see as that attractve.

[Krylo]

You're really enjoying this whole slave-owner thing, aren't you?I'll bet he's writing erotic slashfic on the RP about his slaves as we discuss this.

I just hope he doesn't feel the need to post any of it...

[IHateMakingNames]

Well, it would make a good Omake...

[Forever Zero]

It would make a disturbing omake...

And my guy is a mage, a pyromantic mage, I can easily resist you long enough to turn you, the other slaveowners, and everyone in that observation box to ash before you could break me.

And A. How do you plan on controlling fire IHMN, and B. How does controling fire work, krylo?

[IHateMakingNames]

I think it's hard to cast spells with a large headache while your dreaming about nightmares and your ego has been whipped... Plus there are four water nymphs in the room, four water shields mixed into one.

And this is it.

Control Flames -- May make a flame hotter/colder, and at higher levels gain immunity from fire-based spells. At even higher levels may turn fire- based spells back on the attacker, and create fire based attacks from torches, and at the highest levels may create 'creatures' from the flame.

[Forever Zero]

So as a pyromantic mage, couldn't I just throw up a fire shield and continue my burnination while he reflects them back at me? Actually, couldn't I throw up a fire shield, then just leap at him? And it would strain you too much to control 4 water nymphs (Weak, but it is four of them), and to try and control/distract me (A strong resistor, who would get a headache, but could cast an instant fire spell and not worry about thinking it out at all.)

[Krylo]

I think he plans on using it under the psychokinesis section of powers. The control fire ability.

And, I already explained back in the day when IHMN was looking through powers... low ability gives moderate control over natural flames, medium gives lots of control over natural flames and some control over magical flames, high gives good control over magical and perfect over natural... but the magician's ability conflicts with the psionics, so even a skilled fire controller could be hit by an equally skilled mage.

And... if I had to rationalize the exact mechanics... they control flame by forming 'walls' of air about it, and redirecting it around like that. Kind of like a flame will stop and turn if you put a piece of metal against it...

Edit: Late post... damned tv distracting me.

And I agree with FZ... if you had to control them, it'd take awhile for them all to get their shields up, and it would drain you.

A fight between your two characters wouldn't be very cut and dry. It'd probably be very messy and involve lots of things burning down...

[IHateMakingNames]

Forever, that is where legs come in. See, he will move from the confused idiot who is on fire jumping at him,.

[CelesJessa]

I'll bet he's writing erotic slashfic on the RP about his slaves as we discuss this.
O_o *shudder*
Just leave Aidelyn (and/or anything pertaining to me) out of any of that.

So if Aidelyn was to look into Vlad's eyes and he was to mesmorize her, she would go all melty in love (or something like it) for him? But after the mesmorization is over, they go back to their old feelings for the person, right?

[Krylo]

She'd actually go all melty in lust... or maybe all "RAR! SEX!" *LEAP!* at him. Um... depends upon how she'd react to the sexiest man she's ever seen, but yes, once it was over, you'd go back to old feelings... unless you tried to grasp at the false ones. Kind of like people that think they're in love when it's just lust, the lust dies off... and they try to grasp at the 'love'.

[IHateMakingNames]

She'd actually go all melty in lust... or maybe all "RAR! SEX!" *LEAP!* at him. Um... depends upon how she'd react to the sexiest man she's ever seen

We'll just have to test this out then.

[Forever Zero]

Forever, that is where legs come in. See, he will move from the confused idiot who is on fire jumping at him,.

You misunderstand, I wouldn't be on fire, I would cast...

fire shield--Fire--Creates an aura of flame around the caster which harms anyone attacking the caster. It can be destroyed with water, avoided by long weapons, destroys wood weapons, and gives complete protection from ice and cold.

Then I would basically attack you at melee range. If my guy grabbed you guy with this spell cast, I would burn him to a crisp in seconds, since it is practically the same as catching your body completely on fire.

[IHateMakingNames]

Destroyed by water, four water nymphs (They will atleast protect themselves), Vlad is faster then Zalbag... I think Vlad will get away.

Edit - It's a big room...

[Dante]

Ah, Presence and Dominate. Nasty skilz for vamps to have.

On a side note, there is an application of Dominate called Conditioning... you turn a repeatedly Dominated victim into your mindless slave.

Alternatively, you could always use the Blood Bond... although it requires drinking a vamp's blood on three separate occasions. It can be broken by true love, though.

And another thing - in VtM vampires suffer from a reaction called Rotschreck when confronted with fire. So Vlad would be a mindless screaming coward if he saw FZ's burninating body.

Of coruse, since, this isn't VtM, anything goes... although Rotschreck does make sense, given that fire and sunlight are anathema to vamps...

[Krylo]

Yah, we're gonna go without conditioning (at least through dominate... although it'd still be possible in more... mundane ways. You know, torture and shit), and blood bonds. And the whole fear of fire thing.

As I see their characters currently, Zalbag and Vlad are about equally matched... and it would really just matter who managed to succeed in an attack first...

[IHateMakingNames]

And where are Jareth and Ren... Ren's character on level of power?

[Forever Zero]

Fear of Fire is in! Booyah!

[Krylo]

Jareth is a bit past you guys currently... like I said, he's not getting to be any stronger, where everyone else does... because he's too lazy/doesn't care enough to work on being stronger.

Renesival is currently weaker than any of you, but with a little character development she'll be equal to, or beyond.

And Ren herself, being a GM and all, pwnz j00 411!

And no, no fear of fire, either.

[IHateMakingNames]

Will Jo, Aidelyn, and Rovail be getting anything to give them a boost? Because compared to us magic (And one psionic) people, they aren't much...

[Forever Zero]

Oh, without fear of fire... Dang it... Got my hopes up and everything...

[Krylo]

Rov I have something planned for, Aidelyn and Jo I'm still trying to think of something to even them out a bit more. That reminds me, I need to PM Ecurt...

Also, I'm not sure totally what Aidelyn specializes in, seeming as she only has a little bit of magic, and doesn't seem to be doing much more than looking pretty... so... I might just present her with a make-up case or something, if I can't figure out what skills she's suppose to have.

[IHateMakingNames]

Well, you could make her look even prettier, then give Vlad more of a power boost and she can just stay near him...

[Forever Zero]

Or IHMN could stop with his thinly veiled attmepts to increase his power, or Zalbag will begin a quest for rings that increase his fire magic further, leading to an escalation of powers until we are both Gods that walk the earth, when not even the God of Destruction can stand before our might!...

Soo, how easy would it be to split the world between two conquering dictators... kidding, of course...

Hey, if I went on a quest for magic rings next, that would give Jad the opening he needs in the Omake to slip in a LOTR "Precious" moment...

[IHateMakingNames]

Jad was right, you all hate running jokes...

And I don't see you giving krylo any help for his problem. Sure my suggestion sucked, but at least I tried.

Edit - You could just give Jo a fancy (Meaning magic) sword or whatever type of weapon he uses.

[Forever Zero]

1. Yeesh, someone is in a foul mood.

2. I like running jokes, I don't know where you got that from.

3. She isn't an actual mage, so I can't think of anyhting right this second. Just allow her some sort of quasi water powers, not as much as an actual water mage, but maybe closer to water control. If there is a pool of water, she could manipulate it. Start off with weak, and let her build up. She won't be as strong as others in the end, but it will make her stronger. After all, she is a water nymph, it makes sense that she can manipulate water to some degree.

[IHateMakingNames]

1. Foul mood would involve swearing. (And much more then anything over the internet can bring, except for viruses)

2. Well, I've been trying to get power increases the entire time, so I called it a running joke since Jad had mentioned that in the omake thread (It's not really though).

3. krylo I think wants to stay away from giving more people magic (Seeing as 4 out of 7 know magic). She can get a fancy weapon too... I don't know...

[Krylo]

You could just give Jo a fancy (Meaning magic) sword or whatever type of weapon he uses.That and some armor is my current plan, but if I can, I'd rather make HIM stronger, instead of just tossing some magic equipment his way.

[IHateMakingNames]

Well, so far all she's done is be the 'rebellious new slave', so... You could... No idea, we'll have to ask Celes...

Ok, for Jo, he finds some magic seeds which gives him 2x in all physical stats.

[Forever Zero]

Well we could wait for Celes to maybe post something more, but without any more information, that is the first thing that comes to mind when I think of a water nymph, controlling water. I don't know what a 'stronger' water nymph would do, so I'm just sort of guessing at it.

And that sounds good on the Jo front. Just make him physically stronger works fine. Throwing magic artifacts doesn't make them stronger, just better equipped.

EDIT: In response to Ecurt's post... since when have orcs been "Furry"?

[IHateMakingNames]

For Ecurt... For one, the weapons are blunt. You aren't spliting any skulls with those weapons... And if you did kill him, Vlad would probably declaw you along with many other things, seeing as now he would have to completely dominate the short, bald man so he doesn't get completely pissed off and force Vlad to kill him. (Making Vlad do more work then he has to, he does not like that)

And if you read the orcs bio thing, it says they are big, furry, pig faced people.

[Forever Zero]

Alright, I missed the bio saying their furry. Just never heard of a furry orc before...

[Krylo]

I don't know... it said they were furry in the stuff I looked up. When I think furry orcs, I just think really out of control body hair.

[IHateMakingNames]

I've been thinking of Ganon from that old, crappy Zelda cartoon, then making him furry...

And is Ch. 2 coming soon? (Once it does, the tournament will be almost over since I want to get it over with...)

[Dante]

Nymph powers... well, why not just give Aidelyn "Blinding Beauty" and "Unearthly Beauty"?

Blinding Beauty basically means that if she decides to turn the charm on, anyone looking at her is immediately blinded, given that they have just seen a veritable goddess of beauty and their eyes can't process the information.

Unearthly Beauty means that when Aidelyn disrobes, anyone seeing her dies in transcendent ecstasy, being that the mortal incarnation of incomparable bliss has revealed her true nature to them.

Oh wait, Aidelyn's a nereid, not a nymph, right? Then we'll have to use something like a "Drowning Embrace" and a "Siren Call" power...

Drowning Embrace means that anyone she embraces will die of drowning unless she doesn't want to use the power. Considering who is embracing them, there aren't much better ways to go.

Siren Call is exactly what it implies - a siren's call. FYI, Siren here refers to the Greek Sirens... after hearing them, no music or sound can EVER compare to their song, and you'll crawl over a hundred miles of broken glass and acidic lava just to hear it again.

[IHateMakingNames]

Well, a nereid is a sea nymph, so it's not that much of a difference... And those seem a little odd, especially the first two...

And Greek Sirens didn't make you want to hear it again over anything, just if you hear it you will want to go to the Sirens and do as they say (I think). Once you are out of their songs range nothing is different...

[CelesJessa]

I like the water control like Forever Zero said. ^^

But my character really is a weakling, isn't she? Maybe she could have some sort of healing magic, since water is usually associated with healers, and... ooh! *runs to shelf-o-mangas to see what Rune the water faery-guy can do*

Phooey, I don't have the right volume with me, but in Dragon Knights, Rune, the water knight/faery guy can do this cool thing with these orbs of water... I'm not positive on how they work exactly, I'll have to look it up when I find the right volume.

So maybe some water control, but only when she's actually around water (unlike a mage she can't just summon up water from nowhere) and then she can have slight healing magic perhaps?

[Krylo]

Second Chapter will be up either later tonight or tomorrow... depending on how lazy I am...

And Celes, some things that nerieds would be good at: Thievery, speed based combat, and espionage. Nerieds aren't exactly a 'strong' race, either in magic or physical combat. Some healing magic I'll allow, but you won't be too good at it, and I'm thinking you may only know a VERY little bit now and get a bit better in time.
The control of water, well, it's not a thing I had planned for the race, so it would be a sepcial thing you know. Hmmmm... I'll think about it. This is sounding a lot like magic which would make 5 out of 7 people mages when I didn't want mages...
In all reality, you don't need to be that powerful, if you don't mind being kind of wussy... We're just trying to think of ways to make you useful in combat.

Edit: New discussion thing will go up with the new chapter. Also: I'm not going to add race powers to make a character more powerful, because that makes everyone in their race more powerful, and, in the case of nerieds and nymphs, will make Vlad more powerful... which would mean making everyone else even MORE powerful to account for that, yada yada. Plus, it means very little in the way of the PC being 'special' or whatever.

[CelesJessa]

In all reality, you don't need to be that powerful, if you don't mind being kind of wussy... We're just trying to think of ways to make you useful in combat.
Well, don't worry about the mage-y things, since you don't want any more mages. She could just has very weak healing spells, and maybe she could learn how to weild a dagger or something, and she could fight in close combat, using the speed thing you were mentioning before. Also the espionage thing would be good too.

I don't mind really being sorta wussy, just as long as I'm not useless.

(but if I can find out about the cool thing with the water balls that Rune from dragon knights can do, can I maybe do that (it's nothing really special or powerful, and I'll post what it does once I find it so you can give the ok on it.)

[IHateMakingNames]

She could be the spy/thief... For whatever reason Vlad will take a shine to her, and give her some special training in espionage. Planning on having some specialized slaves anyway (Though not in espionage, more like healing and healing magic...).

So she would be the spy of the group (Though Vlad can do it to with morphing...).

[Krylo]

And a neried can do it with a shake of her ass and a flick of her hair... that's why I said they'd make good spies... and thieves because they have very high dexterity and agility.

[IHateMakingNames]

Still, you would need some training... Aidelyn doesn't seem like an ass shaking, hair flicking girl, and not much of a thief...

She has the natural ability, just not the knowledge.

Edit - WHen you are making all the races better, does that include vampires?

[Dante]

I should probably come in as a WoD Antediluvian and school everyone in being a badass vamp...

Nah, that's just lame.

Another thing - spies and thieves aren't supposed to be noticed... so if the booty-shaking and hair twirling goes on too long, it might work against her...

[Krylo]

WHen you are making all the races better, does that include vampires? I said I wouldn't make any races better because then I'd have to make them all better, and then we'd end up with the original PC of said race being weak again.

Another thing - spies and thieves aren't supposed to be noticed... so if the booty-shaking and hair twirling goes on too long, it might work against her...True, but it would help her get into places, etc. Assassination is another thing she'd be good at.

[Squishy Cheeks]

You already gave me a retroactive boost if IHMN tried to daydream me I'd whoop his ass.

[Dante]

True, but it would help her get into places, etc. Assassination is another thing she'd be good at.

I don't disagree. I rememebr seeing a D&D item called "Lipstick of the Nereid" that allowed its user to deliver a fatal kiss (drowning death at some save or other)...

[IHateMakingNames]

So... Celes is going to be an spy who uses her looks to get near her targets, then kills them and uses her thief like agility and dexterity to get away?

[CelesJessa]

So... Celes is going to be an spy who uses her looks to get near her targets, then kills them and uses her thief like agility and dexterity to get away?

Sounds good to me! Also she could use her ability to become one with the water to help her spy.

[Squishy Cheeks]

I'm surprised IHMN didn't camment on my claim.

[IHateMakingNames]

There is no point on argueing because you over estimate your tail. (Or maybe I underestimate it)

And Celes, will your character already be good at doing those things, or will she need some training (Provided by Vlad/Vlad's slaves)?

[CelesJessa]

And Celes, will your character already be good at doing those things, or will she need some training (Provided by Vlad/Vlad's slaves)?

She'll probably need some help or training, realistically. Even though she is rather rebellious, she lived a fairly sheltered life and would never think of doing such things.

[Dante]

There is no point on argueing because you over estimate your tail. (Or maybe I underestimate it)

For some reason I get the idea that Jormungand's tail is some form of overcompensation...

And Celes, will your character already be good at doing those things, or will she need some training (Provided by Vlad/Vlad's slaves)?

Ninja Girl Celes? Interesting...

[IHateMakingNames]

Well, Atha can teach Aidelyn to be slutty... Vlad can help with that as well. Then for assassinating parts Vlad would teach that... And for the moving around quitely, I guess Rovial could do some of that, as well as other nymph slaves who used to be assassins.


Edit - What would Jad's guy be compansating for? Everything waist down is snake.

[Squishy Cheeks]

I wasn't refering to my tail. I was refering to sending a dreamwalker a daydream he'd reverse it. Dream travel trumps day dream.

[Ren]

...Wow finally caught up. IHMN: MESMERIZE. MES-MER-IZE. Not memorize!


Also, on using mesmerize on Renesival:

I'm not sure how well it would work, actually. On the one hand, Seelies DO worship beauty. On the other, since she's surrounded by beauty beyond that of any mortal person or object every day, she might be a bit jaded to it...Dunno. Must think on that.

If it were me, though. I'd be doomed. I'm a drooling fangirl-type. -.-

[IHateMakingNames]

What is a dreamwalker? It really wouldn't do anything with daydream, seeing as day dreaming isn't really dreaming, just it makes the person get distracted easily. And there are many more telepathic tricks he could still use anyway.

And isn't the point of mesmerize (No idea I was spelling it wrong... Wish some one would have pointed it out earlier) to make the vampire using it seem better then anything else the victim has seen?

[Truce]

I think the concepts of murder and deception is what Celes' character really needs help on. She has the abilities, and the skills could easily be improved through practice, but to getting her to kill or deceive something (from what I've seen) will be hard.

PS - Couldn't the tail act as a substitu...actually, I'll stop these questions now. This is not a conversation I know a majority of the guys would want to talk about.

Edit-Dreamwalker. I'm supposing that might possibly have to do with somewhat prophetic visions, as well as the usual entering the mindscape of an unconscious person.

Edit 2-Mesmerize would likely be harder to do on some than others, and it may be possible to build up an immunity. Dunno myself, just guessing.

[IHateMakingNames]

Tails don't have the correct nerves for that (So it would do nothing for the Naga), and it would be far to large most likely to fit correctly. A couple of inches might fit, but after that it would rip the girl apart.

And she would need the skills to, having lived a sheltered life. She just have the ability, not the skills or knowledge.

[Ren]

IHMN: True. But if you were just SURROUNDED by gorgeous stuff everyday, seeing something even more gorgeous would affect you, just how much I'm not sure. I need to ask Kry-baby about that, and if anything like love would have any effect on it.

[Squishy Cheeks]

Also it's not like I'd let vlad get close enough to mesperize me either. Dream travel means I can enter dreams, deliver messages, and either fight the person in the dream realm, or give them nightmares.

[IHateMakingNames]

Ren: Good point... Though does mesmerize only include physical attraction, or anything (krylo's description does include mind), so would that make the target see the vampire more attractive in other features (Like for Renesvil and Jareth, obviously most of it is that Jareth is from the outside, and is bringing new ideas and such to the sheltered Ren)

Jad: Mesmerize only works on those who are attracted to the sex of the vampire in the first place. And since when does Jo have psionic abilities?

Edit - And even if he can enter Vlad's dreams, don't you think he might be able to overpower Jo, especially in his own mind?

[Squishy Cheeks]

Read the description of Stalkers again. It also concerns his past which is on a need to know basis and you don't need to know. Krylo knows and i'm not sure if he told Ren.

Also your not in your mind. Your in the realm of dreams. Jo knows the rules of the dream realm better than you. It's like fighting Freddy Krueger, well not that bad, but you get the idea. I don't think he could actualy kill you in reality if he killed you in your dream.

[Krylo]

You know, I'm not sure if kry-baby is suppose to be derogatory or endearing...

Anyway: Strong emotions would have an effect on it, varying depending on each person. This doesn't go just for love, but for anything having to do a strong emotion. For instance, let's say x woman HATES Vlad with a vengence. Like, she wants to cut his testicles off and feed them to him kind of hate, mesmerize isn't going to suddenly make her like him. Maybe 'want' him... but not like him or give in to him. Same goes for love for someone else... it may attract them to him, and make it harder to resist him, but the love would help that person resist. In other words, their resistances would be weakened either way, but not as much.

[IHateMakingNames]

Does Ejection and/or Conceal Thoughts include dreams?

And Freddy Krueger can be beat, and has been by kids. Vlad is better then kids...

[Squishy Cheeks]

Let's say I enter your dreams and ruitenly use my knowledge of the rules to beat the crap out of your dream self. Hit you with your worst nightmares etc. You'd probably develop an massive aversion or fear of Jo.

[Krylo]

Ejection counts for dreams... but, as that you'd be, you know, sleeping... and sleeping isn't the best for concentrating, it would take you a little while to realize what was going on and eject him. Conceal thoughts... well, I don't know how you could keep it up while sleeping.

Also, killing you in your dream would just make you wake up in a panic. It really wouldn't accomplish much...

Edit: Ok, fine, so it could accomplish something.

[Forever Zero]

How did I miss Jad's char suddenly picking up semi-psychic powers...

[Squishy Cheeks]

that's what I thought. but it would be useful for scaring the crap out of someone. as I said my Psionics are mostly useless. unless I want to do some long range scouting. Which Jo does for a living.

[Krylo]

Because he PMed me about part of Jormungand's (am I spelling that right?) past, that grants him two (relatively useless) psionic abilities and limited abilities in astrology, and I ok'd it. I'd say more, but it seems he doesn't want you guys to know about his past, or he'd have mentioned it earlier instead of saying 'that you don't need to know'.

[IHateMakingNames]

Still, dreams involve the dreamers mind, so Vlad still has some control over it. The first time Jo did it he might not notice, but after that I doubt it would be as effective.

And couldn't Vlad tell the difference between a natural dream and one created by an outside force?

Edit - The other one is Astral Projection isn't it?

[Krylo]

Aura reading, actually. And yes, you'd probably be able to tell, but every time you would start out a little bit confused, because it's a dream... and it would be like you're working in that state between sleep and awake. You know, the one where you wake up sometimes and you don't know where you are or why you're there, even though you're in your own bed?

[Forever Zero]

Going by Shadowrun definiton, Astral Projection is projecting yourself into the stream of magic itself, and you send your purest magical form to scout around, free of physical obstacles. For the purposes of this RPG, I don't know what Astral Projection would relate to.

[IHateMakingNames]

You know, the one where you wake up sometimes and you don't know where you are or why you're there, even though you're in your own bed?

Nope, never happened to me.

[Forever Zero]

Never? It's happened to me. I have trouble sleeping though, which is why I'm posting here at 12:19 when I should be sleeping...

[Krylo]

Well, you usually don't remember it. How about this, ever had someone tell you that they woke you up, asked you if you wanted to go out to eat or whatever, and that you said "no", but you have no memory of that?

Basically, it'd take a minute to sort out your thoughts and eject him... and it would always take a minute unless he did it like every day. Then you'd start getting used to it.

[Forever Zero]

Alright, I'm not trying to be critical, and I'm laughing while I say this, but does anyone else realize that we have filled three discussion threads, and are about to go on to four, yet haven't finished one RP thread yet?...

[Truce]

In response to FZ (since I have no doubt I've lagged),

Not really. It means that we aren't really using the RP thread as a place to argue and we're really involved in the RP. Both are good things.

Oh-and IHMN, do you want me to just post the next fight myself, or do you want to introduce the contenders once again?

[Dante]

Sometimes I stop halfway and wonder "Why the hell am I even here?"
Then my bunkmate tells me to shut up and keep digging, and so I do.

And I suppose you should make a fourth thread, seeing as this one is 157 posts long (as of mine)...

[IHateMakingNames]

That's going to be in Ch. 2, since Vlad is going to win something which will cause him to go get his psychokeniesis amulet thing.

[Forever Zero]

So you just win yours in a bet? Why didn't I think of that, instead of a trap filled Vault...