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I just wanted to ask for some opinions....
What is everyone's favorite FF game??
I think mine has got to be 7 but I just wanted to know the reasons as to why pople love their favorite title so much :D
9. Simply because it reminds me of the old games in animation, plot, and character. And it's a beautiful world.
Deathosaurus Wrecks
02-10-2004, 03:58 AM
i know this is a fourm attached to a comic based off a Final Fantasy game, but is this dead horse even worth beating anymore? granted, you're new here (welcome), so you dont know this.
Kenryoku_Maxis
02-10-2004, 03:59 AM
i know this is a fourm attached to a comic based off a Final Fantasy game, but is this dead horse even worth beating anymore? granted, you're new here (welcome), so you dont know this.
Plus we've done this thread um...more times than I can remember.
ErifNeerg
02-10-2004, 08:53 AM
Plus we've done this thread um...more times than I can remember.
I'm new around here but not suprise to see this thread pop-up once agian. Before we know it i bet this topic will be baned in the future.
(Personally I love Tactics)
SpaceManSpiff
02-10-2004, 10:04 AM
My favorite FF game is FFIII for SNES. It's graphics aren't that great, but the story line is one of the best I've seen for any game, not just FFs.
BlackMageNuke
02-10-2004, 10:57 AM
my fav is 7 becuase it had awsome chars and a kickass story
:bmage: HADOKEN!
Joe Falco
02-10-2004, 11:26 AM
Personally, this kind of topic should be pinned so that no one would consider making another one of these "favorite FF" topics again.
Oh and my favorite is FF6 because of kickass story, music, characters and villain.
Outbounder
02-10-2004, 01:07 PM
I like 7. Like most FFs great story. Some of the characters are a little static, but that's okay. The music, as always, is amazing. Greatest villain ever. Hehe, I pretty much repeated what Falco said. But 7 has one thing 6 doesn't: Materia. Best magic system ever concocted.
And pinning the topic is a good idea, too.
dragonglove
02-10-2004, 01:07 PM
Allow me to deviate from the mainstream. Why is it that I can't play FFVI anymore? It's one of my favorite games (I have been unable to choose a top 1) and yet everytime I try to play it again, I can't! What's wrong with me!?
Spiffy
02-10-2004, 05:51 PM
FF6, nuff' said.
Spiffy Has Spoken.
Lost in Time
02-10-2004, 06:58 PM
We really should have a stickied 'Fav FF game' so we don't have more of these threads.
Truce
02-10-2004, 07:35 PM
Yes, we should.
For the record, 6, I believe, is usually considered the best by the 'experienced' gamers, and is also my personal pick. However, here are what I believe to be the top ten reasons why other FFs are picked.
1. Sephiroth.
2. Cloud.
3. Graphics.
4. 3D Chicks, usually Yuna, Rikku, Tifa, or Rinoa.
5. Sephiroth.
6. Cloud.
7. Sounds.
8. Sephiroth.
9. Cloud.
10. First FF.
Kenryoku_Maxis
02-10-2004, 08:56 PM
Yes, we should.
For the record, 6, I believe, is usually considered the best by the 'experienced' gamers, and is also my personal pick. However, here are what I believe to be the top ten reasons why other FFs are picked.
1. Sephiroth.
2. Cloud.
3. Graphics.
4. 3D Chicks, usually Yuna, Rikku, Tifa, or Rinoa.
5. Sephiroth.
6. Cloud.
7. Sounds.
8. Sephiroth.
9. Cloud.
10. First FF.
You didn't mention Sephiroth.....
....at least as much as the others do. -_-
mrchaos
02-10-2004, 09:04 PM
Personally, though this may be considered blasphemy in here *gasp*, I hated FF1, no story whatsoever. I like FF 6, 7, 4, 9, 5, 8, 2, 10, 1 in that order. And, if I threw in tactics, it would be number 3.
Misocainea
02-10-2004, 09:11 PM
My favorite Final Fantasy is FF 14-3, of course me being the only time traveling gamer around here none of you have likely played this game yet.
By the way the playstation 5 really sucked.
Yes, we should.
For the record, 6, I believe, is usually considered the best by the 'experienced' gamers, and is also my personal pick. However, here are what I believe to be the top ten reasons why other FFs are picked.
1. Sephiroth.
2. Cloud.
3. Graphics.
4. 3D Chicks, usually Yuna, Rikku, Tifa, or Rinoa.
5. Sephiroth.
6. Cloud.
7. Sounds.
8. Sephiroth.
9. Cloud.
10. First FF.
I resent that. I've played many Final Fantasy's, 6 being my first, and I still like 7 better. I've also played many other games and RPG's, making me a 'experienced gamer' as any of you. And for your information, I'm not one of those losers who likes games for the girls. That's just stupid.
The thing about Final Fantasy 7 is, that it's just got such an incredible and immersive plot, that really draws you in and motivates you. FF6 did do this to an extent, but just not as well because of the old school graphics. The materia system is much better than the Relic system, the characters are more memorable, the limit break system is better...the list goes on and on.
Still, even with all things considered, FF7 is beating FF6 just by a hair. A hair. Make no mistake, I consider FF6 to be one of the greatest games ever made, but FF7 just had something 6 didn't.
And please, no "ur jus a ff7 fanboi!!!!111!1!1" replies. Those get real old real fast.
dragonglove
02-11-2004, 12:47 AM
I think most of the resentment against FF7 is that it is loved by noobs who haven't played anything else and don't know anything about the rest or even the definition of a solid RPG. That being said, there is nothing wrong with FFVII. It's all the noobs fault. KILL THE NOOBS!!!
Mr. Viewtiful
02-11-2004, 02:00 AM
FInal Fantasy 7 was my fortst FF, and would be my favorite if the following didn't happen:
1) I was too young to understand it much
2) My yuonger brother deleted my save. SIX TIMES!
3) Farthest I got was Cosmo Canyon.
4) I never owned the game. That's right: all rentals, baby.
Thus, FInal Fantasy Tactics is my favorite. Why? Well, I've played several of the FF's, and FFT has (IMHO) the most immersice and complex storyline, best job/magic system, best character development, and best battle system (one that rquires much planning ahead).
Mashirosen
02-11-2004, 02:12 AM
At the request of Joe Falco, I now decree this thread stuck, as the Official 8-Bit Theater Forum "What's your favorite FF game?" Topic. So it shall be written, so it shall be done.
01d55
02-11-2004, 02:20 AM
Mr. Viewtiful, your brother is evil. Evil I tell you!
My favorite is FF6, 'cos it's got Kefka in it. Nevertheless, I still couldn't bring myself to finish the game. I just can't keep playing them.
It's real fun to watch, though. Like golf in reverse, assuming that golf is fun to play (is it?)
Joe Falco
02-11-2004, 03:07 AM
Golf is fun if you like the dignified beauty that is golf (I'm more of a soccer man myself).
The villain is what represents the game. What is his motivation? What is his problem? Why can't the villain learn to love...?
Kefka was a power-mad cynic who rationalized that there is no meaning to life. It all has no purpose when each and every life is doomed to die and all of their works are meant to slide into ruin eventually. Then we have the heroes' speeches about how life is worth something, blah blah, Kefka is wrong, blah blah, now you die!
Bah, Kefka should've won and have the universe destroyed (then a new one begins, thus repeating the circle of life, adding an ironic twist to Kefka's goals!)
Mr. Viewtiful
02-11-2004, 08:45 AM
Yeah, that would be ironic. You can't wipe out life, it'll come back eventually.
And my bro isn't evil. He was just around 4 (I think) at the time. He didn't know better.
NeoIchiro
02-11-2004, 09:11 AM
FF6 was my first FF, and my fav., but FF7 has a special place in my heart (materia and Cloud/Vincent)
Viper Daimao
02-11-2004, 10:24 AM
I actually really enjoyed going back and playing FF1 when they released it on the FF:Origins cd.
of course, 6 is the best. hands down. should be end of discussion right there. man that was a great summer.
Forever Zero
02-11-2004, 03:27 PM
FF6 was the first RPG I ever played, and while I have played a lot of RPGs since then, no others have beaten it. It still holds the title of best game ever in my opinion.
Truce
02-11-2004, 08:02 PM
Atma, I never said that FF7 was bad. Actually, it's my third favorite FF, it's in my top ten of favorite all time games. It's just that those were the top ten reasons I felt that people picked other ones. There are a lot of fanboys/fangirls out there afterall.
Let's face it, many of those who consider FF7 as their favorite are usually "n00bs", who don't appreciate it fully. I know that it is great, and is real close to me as well...it's just that those "n00bs" annoy me so much!
Dragonglove was right, most of the resentment comes from the "n00bs" that worship it.
Good to hear. I was just mad a n00bs for giving the game a bad rep, and guys who in turn hate the game and it's fans just for those stupid n00bs. No hard feelings, right? ;)
In any case, here's my list for favorite FF's in order of best to worst:
VII, VI, I, IX, VIII, IIj, X
Sadly, I have yet to play IIIj, IV and V, but....I'm getting around to it.
CelesJessa
02-11-2004, 08:44 PM
Hmm, I know my favorite, but I don't know what order I like them in. I'll try though. ^^ (this might not be always true, it depends on my mood if I like the game or not. Especially when it comes to FFX. Sometimes I think it's a good game, sometimes I think it's not that good.)
FFVI (the best ^^ ), IX, X, IV, VIII, V, I, VII, jII, X-2, Mystic Quest
I've played jIII, but not enough to remember if I liked it or not. (I've beaten all of them except for jII, jIII, and V (but I've come close enough to the end on V before my brother took it to collage)) ^^;;
IIIj was good, cause it introduced the job system.
My favorite is either VI or VII.
Osmordion
02-12-2004, 07:13 AM
FF6>FF7
1. i like the characters better
2. there are more characters
3. i like the equipment system better in FF6
just some reasons i like FF6 more than 7
redhead546
02-12-2004, 05:30 PM
I'm not sure which one is my favorite, I like them all really. And since we are on the topic of FF, has anyone tried FF:CC? If you haven't, you can't move and charge an attack at the same time. I think that is stupid because it uses a real-time fighting system. Other than that, it's ok.
ChaosMage
02-12-2004, 05:52 PM
I like FF6. I've played them all, and its just the best. ANd yes, my resent ment for FF7 does come from the fact that "n00bs" worship it like its some sort of massive accomplishment and a huge step forward. Really, I think it was a step backward for Square. They went from FF6, with a kickass story and characters and open ended gameplay (You can go straight to Kefka's Tower as soon as you get the airship and skip getting everyone else) to FF7, where they practically hold your hand the whole time. And I liked the Esper system better. Much better. The problem with Materia is that it totally removes uniqueness between characters. Characters become their limitbreaks in battle, and I think thats foolish.
Mr. Wind-Up Bird
02-12-2004, 06:13 PM
Because I enjoy raging against the machine, I'm going to say FF X is the best.
Dr DR
02-12-2004, 06:33 PM
6 was good. 8 was also good. 9 was godawful.
Mr. Viewtiful
02-12-2004, 07:04 PM
Oh, an honorable mention to FFT:A, a great game in it's own right.
Yes, I admit it was good, even though it'as complicated as FFT. And to think at one time I was a n00b saying "FFTA is teh su><0rz! FFT rulez! RAWR!" I regret it now...
Krylo
02-12-2004, 07:39 PM
My favorite Final Fantasy is the one over in the roleplaying forum.
But, you probably mean consoles, so I'm going to go with FFT. I love the plot on that game... and the battle system.
Mr. Viewtiful
02-12-2004, 07:53 PM
I forgot the forum one...I'll add that to my list *adds to list*
trohan21
02-12-2004, 08:09 PM
definately ff6. i can't believe you guys haven't even mentioned the fact that there's no main character and you can put anyone you want in your party. that was the best part. i think the graphics in 6 were awesome, i don't know why people rag on them. just think of every time kefka laughed or someone in the group was suprised. now imagine it with 3D graphics with people that look like..wel people. it's not as funny. there's something about those small sprites that realistic 3D graphics will never be able to capture.
redhead546
02-12-2004, 09:33 PM
definately ff6. i can't believe you guys haven't even mentioned the fact that there's no main character and you can put anyone you want in your party. that was the best part. i think the graphics in 6 were awesome, i don't know why people rag on them. just think of every time kefka laughed or someone in the group was suprised. now imagine it with 3D graphics with people that look like..wel people. it's not as funny. there's something about those small sprites that realistic 3D graphics will never be able to capture.
That's the same for FF:CC. You get to make the characters you put in your caravan. I just make people with family jobs such as blacksmiths just because I get discounts on the weapons. Yes FF:TA and FFT were both really good also.
The_Bear
02-12-2004, 09:41 PM
I got FF:CC a few days ago and have already gone through year 1. I'm solo so far, but it's an awsome game. I think I chose to be the ranger's son. I don't remember, but I get free milk and worry my mom by telling here I'm out of money.
Oh, and my favorite FF is a tie between 4 and 5, with an honorable mention to 9.
Lockeownzj00
02-13-2004, 06:13 PM
Yeah, I just got back from a day of playing FFCC at my friends house with two gbas. Wow. Everyone who said this game would have flaws is wrong. Most hardcore (and even casual gamers who whine to their parents until they get every system) gamers have a gba and a gcn already, and the cables are cheap. Plus, if you pre-ordered, it comes with the game. It's really great. The cooperation is well-executed.
You lose your magicite when you leave an area, but it doesn't matter--when you play the game you'll see it's well-implemented. It's also very fun to combine attacks. I.e., if I cast blizzard at the same time and location as my friend, we cast blizzara. If we're closer together, we cast blizzaga. Another cool thing is, the more players there are, the more radars you have. Since we were 2, my friend had an enemy radar and I had the map radar. With more people, the third person has the treasure radar, and the fourth an artifact radar (i believe).
There's no leveling, but when you collect artifacts, after a while, if you fulfill your bonuses and complete levels, you will get to choose one of the effects of your artifacts (my friend got an extra heart, and i got magic +1).
Anyway, it's wonderfully fun, and the GBA is the perfect tool to use with it.
Dante Reborn
02-13-2004, 10:54 PM
That's all true, but I have to admit, I'm not a fan of the fact that the plot seems to be lesser... Maybe I'm just imagining things?
Lost in Time
02-14-2004, 12:31 AM
I'm not saying it has flaws, its just I don't want to spend so much money to play multiplayer. Though I might buy the game for single player.
redhead546
02-14-2004, 09:26 AM
-------------------------SPOILER-------------------------------
I'm one year four and there are FIVE elements, not four. Who know's what the fifth is. The story is getting really deep. You start to notice people are losing their memory and there is an alchemist who is trying to discover a way to travel without a crystal (I'm not sure if he has completed it yet). Plus there is talk of an Island in the south where myrrh "flows like rivers" So anyway, it's fun. I'm playing solo. It's easy so far because the AI isn't the greatest. It isn't bad but it isn't the best. All you have to do is find a patern and act accordingly.
redhead546
02-14-2004, 05:24 PM
That fifth element? I know what it is... I got it last night myself. It's our good old friend [This portion has been deleted by a moderator who wants to learn for himself.]
Thanks for the spoiler warning. The "our good old friend" gave it away even though the rest was deleted.
Dante Reborn
02-14-2004, 08:08 PM
...It did? Damn. Now I feel like an ass.
redhead546
02-14-2004, 09:49 PM
Oh well, don't worry about it. I found out in the game just a couple hours after you said that.
astina
02-15-2004, 01:54 AM
My fave is VI. I mean come on, the game was awesome, and the graphics of Edgar only helped...
Dante Reborn
02-15-2004, 04:12 AM
Ah, yes... He was quite the technological master.
Little Unicorn Boy
02-15-2004, 04:26 AM
And damn handsome too. Grrrrr.
I would have to say VI. It was simply the best. The plot was a classic, the characters were fantastic, the graphics were incredible (as far as SNES RPGs can go [I even liked the whole stagnant enemy/animated character thing]), it was just plain awesome and great and cool and good.
And that music.
Dante Reborn
02-15-2004, 04:33 AM
And awesome music can only lead to awesome remixes of said music. Terra in Black (http://www.ocremix.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR00206) comes to mind.
I love the FF6... it was so sad when Celes tries kill herself... It was beatiful..
musicalmechanic
02-17-2004, 12:25 AM
Well, if I gotta decide, it's defiantely FF9. I loved the character of Vivi, and the whole thing with raising Chocobo's level mini-game I found quite enjoyable...even though Ozma was a bitch. Come to think about it, I never did beat him...maybe I should pull my PS1 out sometime. FF6 was a classic, I'd probably like FF1 if every time I played it, something didn't happen to the file (nothing sucks worse than realizing while playing the emulator, everyone is level 45 or higher, and you just hit the quicksave button, not the quickload button at the title screen...that poor keyboard). By the time I got around to finally playing FF7, I knew so much about the game, I probably could have recreated it blindfolded (friends suck). FF8 sucks (IMHO), but FFX wasn't that bad. I personally liked the sphere system as something different. Course X-2 looks like it just hit every guy out there with a dose of girl-power (damn dress-speheres)...
VirgoSHaka
02-17-2004, 06:27 AM
To dragonglove. I have the same problem as you: I can't play my old games again (CT, FFs, Fallouts, etc). I have a theory on that matter. I call it: "Curse of the Long-term, Subconscious Memory". When you play those rpgs you can't help it but memorize bits and pieces (blocks and the whole fucking script if you have a nasty gifted memory) of the plot, gameplay, mechanics to help you enjoy the game. This is done at a subconscious level and is what is bothering you. The many times you replayed those games in the past has accumulated the whole picture in your memory and you can't avoid to know everything that's going to happen, everything that'll be said, etc. Without that freshness (that comes from not having the game hot in your memory) RPGs are reduced to little more than monkey tasks that annoy you VERY FAST. What I have found to paliate (I think that word exists, not sure though) the problem is to vary what you play (or in my case, read, play, watch) constantly so that you don't hold it in your memory. I NEVER read any book, play any game or watch every movie more than once a year. Using this method, I have managed to enjoy some oldies like Lufia 2 and Shining Force again. I hope you find my advice useful.
I share your pain. I find it next to immpossible to play any SNES RPG anymore becuase I memorized each area, enemy, and script to memory, making the game old and predicitble. Even now after not playing FF6 for about a year, I still can't go back to it. It's too painful. It's sad, really. But I still appreciate it for what it is and still one of my favorite games.
VirgoSHaka
02-17-2004, 10:06 PM
Try using my remedy although in your case you'll have to wait until you have grand kids j/k...seriously people, we need to come up with a way to format that subconscious mind.
musicalmechanic
02-17-2004, 11:19 PM
It's kinda funny actually, my girlfriend has this odd thing she does, I don't know how it works, but whenever I'm supposed to remember something, no matter how trivial or epedemic, I seem to forget it. I'd blame the food she cooks for me, but she rarely cooks. I'd blame her for putting things in my head when I sleep, but I barely sleep (were not large people, but it's kinda hard to get a full nights rest on a twin-size bed by yourself, let alone with someone whining about the cats or Buffy). Maybe if we could harness the power of the female whine, we could focus it in such a way, that we could enjoy classic games all over again...
P.S. - Just an update, my girlfriend read this and cried...don't know why though *off to find out* Girls are wierd...
SomethingWorthless
02-19-2004, 02:44 AM
Well I'm at a very young age (15) and my VERY first SNES game was the goog ol' FF6. I fell instantly in love with the game. To tell you the truth, at that age, I didn't even know what the game's title was. Well after playing it for a good 4 months I stopped and moved on. By my ( I think ) 10th or 11th B-Day I got FF7 from my dad. I played it mindlessly, and may I add horribly, till I reached Sephiroth. I remeber me deafeating him by a hair. Wwwith Cloud, Nanaki ( Red VIII ) and Cid. I beat him by using a hero drink and Dragon's Jump limit break about 7-10 times. ^_^ Ahh those where the good days. Now that Im fifteen, I mauled Sephiroth at level 60... But still I find BOTH games to be my all times favorties.
P.S. That Terra in Black song rocked.
Daer-San
02-19-2004, 08:11 AM
Ahh.. More memories about FF6 the opera scene... It was great! Good music (found it with vocals also!)
SomethingWorthless
02-20-2004, 12:18 AM
Vocals were kinda cool. Ahh yes but wouldn't you like to see what the aftermath was like? I suppose thats one qurik of Square-Enix. Always leave ya hanging, and when you DO see the Epolouge ( I.E. FFX-2, yes I bought it...Damn FF adiction. ) your not to happy with what it gives ya.
Dante Reborn
02-20-2004, 12:25 AM
Of course. Why do you think they never bothered to make a direct sequel? They knew what they'd be getting into...
SomethingWorthless
02-20-2004, 12:34 AM
True true. But why Charlies Angles?? Coulda gone with a MUCH better pitch than that.
I thought 7 had the best story ever - up until I got to the END, and was like "Where the fuck is the REST of it?" There's so many plotholes, I don't even know where to begin.
Humor me.
And I don't think I've EVER seen anyone say that FFIX was the worst. First time for everything I guess.
Dante Reborn
02-20-2004, 07:20 PM
So after 6 and 4, I guess it's 10, then a reluctant 7, a nose-pinching 8, and a stomach-churning 9.
And anybody who disagrees is clearly a terrorist, communist, fascist hippie beatnik.
Then color me red, tye-die, and black.
Nine's plot isn't that bad at the end, but I don't feel like correcting everything you said wrong about it.
zil_darshivez
02-20-2004, 09:45 PM
Nine was really good. My favorites are V and III for the nes(not VI in disguise.) The only reason i didn't like X-2 was the lack of a Red Mage class. Why don't they have red mage characters? it's not like they're godmode or anything. they're lika just there.
Methings i love the Job system... well... the jobsystem was great until i played tactics. It bored me as fast as VIII did. a month. no more, no less of non consistant playing. I should probably dust off the whole thing, but i don't think i will.
Back to the old V loving mode. Am i the only one that loves that one or something? I mean it introduced the Blue Mage. How much more could you ask for?
Oh.. i like them all, so i'm not evil.
Solid Snake
02-23-2004, 05:54 AM
Despite the fact that my first Squaresoft RPG was Super Mario RPG, and despite the fact that my first Final Fantasy was actually Final Fantasy II / IV, I have to go with Final Fantasy VII here for my favorite. And no, not because of Sephrioth...in fact, Sephiroth is actually one of my least favorite FF villains (certainly, Kefka and/or Seymour and/or Kuja and/or Beatrix and/or Sin could beat him any day of the week.)
I really like FFVII because of Aeris -- her death hit me hard, because it was just so beautifully orchestrated and almost felt like a scene out of the movies. And Red XIII - inarguably my favorite RPG character to this day, because he reminds me a lot like myself -- very intelligent but also a bit immature and inexperienced. And The Turks are undoubtedly the greatest lackey organization RPG-dom has ever inspired...certainly LeBlanc's Syndicate can't even hold a candle to them.
The Midgar Effect was awesome. For those of you who don't know what I'm referring to, it's really the fact that, when I first picked up the game, I was expecting the whole thing to take place in Midgar...and since the first 10 or so hours of gameplay happened there, I thought the entire game would be nothing more than a series of mako reactor showdowns. I actually thought, as we had invaded Shinra HQ, that I was nearing the end of the game! Boy, was I shocked when I actually saw the world map for the first time. Sure, I had seen a world map before in FFIV and Chrono Trigger, but I didn't really associate FFVII with those 2D styles of games. I was elated when I saw the map and realized there were so many places I hadn't even seen yet. It was just a really magical feeling, a feeling of actually not having expected the project to be as magnificent as it was. I haven't gotten that feeling from many other videogames at all (Metal Gear Solid, Link To The Past, and Chrono Trigger, really, that's about it).
Furthermore, the scenary in FFVII is just extremely detailed. In fact, after playing FFVIII, one of my first reactions was that, despite the fact that FFVIII certainly looked better from a sheer graphical standpoint, the level of detail in the art paled in comparison to some of FFVII's backdrops. Stare at the image of all the pipes in a Mako Reactor, then look at any in-game image from FFVIII, and you'll see what I mean. The characters in FF8 look more realistic and a lot better, certainly, but I really didn't mind the lankey, lego-block graphics FF7 sported.
The music in FF7 includes some of the best tracks in the series. Aeris's Death scene, Cosmo Canyon, Cloud's Theme, the Highwind Theme, Cid's Theme, Vincent's Theme, Shinra's Theme, the Turk's Theme, the City of the Ancients Theme...there's too many tracks for me to really list. They just blend in so well with the game. And the number of sidequests and extra goodies in FF7, as well as the Chocobo breeding and the hidden materia and the optional WEAPONs, definately make it have greater replay value than any other FF.
The ending is a little disappointing, and there's more than just a few plot elements unaccounted for, but I've always considered FF7 the best Final Fantasy has had to offer. Who knows, maybe FF12 will arouse a similar feeling and replace FF7 at the top. But right now FF7 remains my favorite FF, and second favorite RPG, of all time. Call me a newbie all you want if you seriously believe everyone who loves FF7 is a neophyte, but let it be known that I've played many games in the genre and VII is simply one of the best in my book.
Joe Falco
02-23-2004, 12:11 PM
No, Solid Snake. You are definitely no newbie. You have pretty much hit all of the great features that make FF7 stand out from other FF games. If I could disagree with you on one point, it would be which game had the better music score, however that is a matter of taste and opinion.
Locke_ninja
02-23-2004, 12:35 PM
:bmage: ok im new to this thing so im not sure what you guys think is the best final fantasy but i think it is ff3 (6) for snes. :bmage:
Solid Snake, I think that brought a tear to my eye.
Yes, as I'm sure you've read somewhere, FFVII is my favorite. But not for what you think. For one thing, FFVII was not my first FF. FFVI was.
Sadly, I cannot remember my first time through the game. It came out when I was in 4th grade, and I was still in my "watch my brother do everything and do it the exact same way" shtick. In other words, Through my first time through (and many, many times after that) I didn't understand a word they were saying. I didn't know jack about the plot and didn't seem to care. All that I cared about was that Cloud and Sephiroth were "teh cool!11!1". In fact, I even remember that I wasn't even impressed with it at first. I remember choosing to play a game of Hide and go Seek with my sister instead of some quality time playing. And by the time I was smart enough to actually read the text, I already knew the ending and all the plot changes so it was old and boring.
With all things considered, FFVII should not be my favorite, right? Just another game that I was too stupid to like, right? Wrong. And here's why.
Firstly, yes Cloud and Sephiroth play a big part in me liking the game. Both characters are very cool in their own ways. With Cloud, he was a giant sword wielding bad ass, but at the same time, confused, guilty and ashamed of his own past. I can relate to him in some ways and it's cool to see how he reacts to situations in the game. I like Sephiroth mostly because of his evilness. He's incredibly smart and insane so that you hate him so much, you just want to pound his face in. The way he killed Aries played a big part there too, I was numb with disbelief at first. And even Tseng of the Terks, I never expected him to just kill him like that. For me, Sephiroth broke some important video game rules, and it really impressed me.
Second, the story. The way each character has a deeply involved back round to them, it really helps you relate to them. And as we all know, FFVII's story is the deepest in any FF game. Or just about any game for that matter. The way they executed it may be confusing at first, but once you understand it, very efficiently used. Like, say, that one room in the Temple of Ancients. The way Sephiroth kept teleporting in front of you like that, and how crazy Cloud got, really expresses the emotion of the characters and what's going on with the general plot. No game, not even VI has done that.
Third, the game play. The Materia system is invincible in that you can make endless customization with each character, giving you endless combinations. And the second point, which I'm sure a lot of y'all are going to disagree with me here, is that it eliminates one of the most troubling choices in most role-playing games. I'm sure you noticed that in FFVII, the characters have no defined skills or features from each other, which would knock down game play. However, In other RPG's, I always have the burden deciding which character to put into my party: The one I respect more due to their personality or their disposition, or the character that's more powerful. In the end, I usually choose the character I like better for who they are, not who's more powerful. It's still a difficult choice and a pain. FFVII eliminates that by making each character's special abilities more subtle, AKA limit breaks. And while some character limit breaks are clearly better than other's, you won't be at too much of a disadvantage by putting one guy in your party instead of another.
Fourth, the graphics. I know now that the graphics look pretty bad compared to today's standards (Hey look! Cloud has hooves!), but the simply fact it's in 3D means a lot. It helped immensely in telling the story and making it more immersive. This is probably the biggest reasons I think FFVII's story is stronger that VI's.
And lastly, the music. Each track defines that area or character so well, it gives you the exact mood or feeling for whoever you are or whoever you're talking to. The music is excellent quality and I frequently find myself putting tracks in my MP3 player.
So yes, FFVII will remain to be my all-time favorite game for now. FFVI is close behind with Earthbound tied. I don't think any other game will give me the feeling Final Fantasy VII did.
The Tortured one
02-24-2004, 11:36 AM
FF7 is great in my book, but not God like everyone makes it out to be.
I'm sorry, Cloud has the personality of a fork. I get the impression that they were going for a dark, brooding, and stoic character, but due to poor dialouging he came off to me as indifferent, disinterested, and Bored. That and the love aspect of the story between him, Tifa, and Aeris was all but non-existent. I went way out of my way to be as cruel as possible to Aeris and to treat Tifa like a queen, but in the end she was still acting more like Cloud's big sister than his lover.
Thats not to say i didn't love it. It had some of the most memorable music ever in a videogame. Sephiroth was a total badass, who was more of a megalomaniac as opposed to being evil for the sake of being evil. And some of the characters really played off of each other well, particularly Barrett, RedXIII, and Cid.
Oh yes, the Materia system was Boss, definatly one of the best magic systems in any RPG, period. Its this particular reason why i hated Aeris so much. Slap a cure materia with a linked all materia, and bam, you've got an all purpose healer. Tifa with a cure + all was just as effective as Aeris with a cure + all, only Tifa could dish out more damage in battle. more damage being delt in a shorter amount of time = enemies having less time to wail on your part = less damage coming back to you = less of a need to waste MP on cure spells. Aeris was useless.
the best game ever has to be Metal Ger Solid. Someone please show me a more cinematic experience than MGS. tied with MGS for best game ever has to be Tetris and Super Mario 1. Tetris is more addictive than crack cocaine, the only reason many people own a gameboy was for those long car trips were you could easily blow 5 hours playing tetris. Super Mario 1 Takes the cake for being the most innovative game ever. Who would have thought that a plumber would make a good mascot for a video game company? I think every game ever made can trace it's roots back to super mario 1, in one way or another.
musicalmechanic
02-25-2004, 09:32 PM
"Who would have thought that a plumber would make a good mascot for a video game company? I think every game ever made can trace it's roots back to super mario 1, in one way or another."
You know, now that you mention it, I could kinda see Auron as Mario with a sword....Daisy could be Yuna without the whining....Wakka could be Luigi (OK, maybe not)....and Tidus could be a...ummmm....goomba...hehehe...
Blight
02-26-2004, 02:34 PM
My favorite final fantasy, eh? I guess it would have to be X. Yup. Its the first one I've ever played, and now that I've gone back and played the old ones, I think ten spoiles the others. Its just better. Seven was okay. I think were all stoned when you played it, cause its not THAT good. Sepphiroth was pretty tight, though. Eight was very good, as was nine, but tens got em beat. Seymour was a little gay, but you get to kill him in the end, so its all good. And sorry Brian and Sossa, but six wasn't that spectactular.
Jinchuu
02-26-2004, 03:06 PM
FFVIII is my favorite. To me, the best characters. Well, not all of them. But I could relate to Squall, and frankly it's one of the few games where I actually cared what happened to the characters. VI, then VII after that.
Utsusu
02-27-2004, 10:00 AM
My favorite final fantasy would have to be final fantasy IX. I would have chosen VII if not for one thing. I ACTUALLY USED AERIS I had her final limit and she was my best char. then whats this, a cut scene. Oh, look at Aeris praying. Hey its Sephiroth. What ya doin seph. no seph stop no no NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO AERIS. That is why i didnt like VII, oh and the fact that the chars didnt have mouths, even FFI had mouths.
Tyrak_Stinger
02-27-2004, 02:42 PM
My favorite would have to be FFVII, first one to be 3-D, great gameplay, skills and limit breaks. I also like all of the side quest and mini-games that it had to offer.
MasterMage
02-27-2004, 07:51 PM
I like ff1 the game that started it all
StormRider
02-28-2004, 06:24 PM
I'm going to say VI, although IV and VII are close competitors. I saw someone say that Materia was much more customizable than Relics, and that's true, but VI also had Espers, which added to the twinking. Any character can become awesome if giving the right espers and relics, even Relm. The only thing I would have liked to see in VI that it didn't already have was Limit Breaks.
Also, I'm going to paint a giant bullseye on myself and say this: I loathe Sephiroth. Hate every inch of his CGI-existence. All of his fanpeople say "OMG he's so hot and badass and OMG OMG I'm hyperventilating from spewing his praises like projectile vomit on anyone around me whether they care or not LOL!!1!11!!" Yes, I am exaggerating, but it bugs the hell out of me nonetheless. If Square-Enix, or any other RPG developer for that matter, shoves one more silver-haired, leather-clad, effeminate bishounen on me as the lead villian, I'm going to put my fist through something expensive. Cloud narrowly edging him out in the gamefaqs.com Character Battle convinced me that there is indeed, somewhere, a glimmering bit of justice in the world.
Futhermore, I'm going to deviate from the generally held opinion and say that I was rather unimpressed by Final Fantasy Tactics (the original), when I began the game about a year ago. The difficulty level was schizophrenic, with some levels being a cakewalk and others being insanely difficult. And not the good difficult that rewards the experience, the frustrating difficult that eventually leads you to believe you're wasting your time. The plot, which many compare to a Shakespeare play of the gaming world, actually bore only one resemblance to anything by the Bard, and that, of course, is that nearly everyone dies, which I think is the major flaw in the game's plotline in the first place. Having everyone get killed prevents the gamer from getting attached to a character they like, and if you're like me, after the fourth or so character getting murdered or transformed into some horrible demon just a few levels after introducing them, you kind of give up on those attachments. Futhermore, the characters that remain are woefully underdeveloped. Ramza lacks anything remotely like a personality. It's not the worst Final Fantasy, but it's far from the best, in my opinion.
Nique
03-04-2004, 09:06 PM
Futhermore, I'm going to deviate from the generally held opinion and say that I was rather unimpressed by Final Fantasy Tactics (the original), when I began the game about a year ago ...Futhermore, the characters that remain are woefully underdeveloped. Ramza lacks anything remotely like a personality. It's not the worst Final Fantasy, but it's far from the best, in my opinion.
OMG! Someone said it! I must concur. Tatics, unsucessfully tried to ride in on the wake that was FFVII. Could've been cool with some twaking, but other than that...
But on the sephiroth thing... Well... that seems to be a complaint on the visuals. Sephiroth, no matter how he looked, was a great charecter. If you really examine his story, (Kinda-good-guy-turned-demi-godly-evil), the complexity if it comes out. I didn't think he was paticularly effeminate, but meh. To each his/her own.
Gunner11B
03-08-2004, 11:47 AM
I got three favorites. First of all i like FF9 for it was the on that had the greatest summonings in my opinion and Garnet is really hot.
:bmage: Not as hot as White mage though.
I love tactics to for its chanlenging and i love making my team different ever time i play. Although no one is hot in that game but its still good.
And also i like the first one too becouse i like just changing my party when i beat the game, and the hottest girl (obviosly) is white mage when she takes of her hood.
:bmage: OO YEA.
:fighter: And in ff one i totally kick @#!
:bbelt: And in that game i totally suck @$! becouse i dont gain any magic and I have weak defence. But i sure look cool when i upgrade.
I liked FF3j. It was like the first FF, with more classes!
Viktor Von Russia
03-10-2004, 12:13 AM
Most of the time, all I hear is FF6 vs. FF7 as the best. I myself prefer FF6. Could an avid FF7 fan please tell me why it's better than ff6?
I've heard many reasons, some that I agree with, some that I don't. I agree that the Materia system was an improvement over the magicite, although the limited slots bugged the crap outta me. Limit breaks were indeed an awesome innovation. However, I can't accept that story telling was enhanced by graphics. Parts of FF6 I liked because it was sprites instead of realistic graphics. So please someone make an argument in favor of FF7 so I can better understand.
Outbounder
03-10-2004, 01:16 AM
Look at posts 68 and 71 of this topic. Those are the best arguments I've read.
Nanaki2424
03-11-2004, 09:48 AM
The best FF is definately 7, I mean, all before 7 had horrible graphics and crappy gameplay, but 7 and up were all great games with the exception of 9. 7 Started the good games of final fantasy. 8 was ok, but got boring running back and forth, and getting to ultemacia's castle and noticing that you screwed up or didn't get someting right after you saved kinda blows, 9 just sucked, need i say more. and 10 had good gameplay, blitzball was annoying when trying to get wakka's sigil, seriously who really wants to play 5 or more leagues of blitzball. Although the gameplay was awsome great graphics and such, the story line wasn't as good as I thought it'd be, not a bad one though. and X-2, god, just cause they make a ff on PS2 they think they should make a sequel, cough cough bad idea cough cough. 7 was the best in my opinion, with the chocobo racing, MATERIA(best thing ever), the weapons, the story line, you can't beat it, honestly, if you don't like 7 you should burn in hell.
Nanaki2424
03-11-2004, 09:49 AM
also, gunner11B, why are you checking out characters on games, can you not get any, do you need a girlfriend that bad
slightly aboveaverage man
03-11-2004, 10:20 AM
It's all about FF1 baby. can't beat the original
Viktor Von Russia
03-11-2004, 11:38 AM
The best FF is definately 7, I mean, all before 7 had horrible graphics and crappy gameplay, but 7 and up were all great games with the exception of 9. 7 Started the good games of final fantasy. 8 was ok, but got boring running back and forth, and getting to ultemacia's castle and noticing that you screwed up or didn't get someting right after you saved kinda blows, 9 just sucked, need i say more. and 10 had good gameplay, blitzball was annoying when trying to get wakka's sigil, seriously who really wants to play 5 or more leagues of blitzball. Although the gameplay was awsome great graphics and such, the story line wasn't as good as I thought it'd be, not a bad one though. and X-2, god, just cause they make a ff on PS2 they think they should make a sequel, cough cough bad idea cough cough. 7 was the best in my opinion, with the chocobo racing, MATERIA(best thing ever), the weapons, the story line, you can't beat it, honestly, if you don't like 7 you should burn in hell.
All valid points except for one thing. All games before 7 had crappy gameplay?! By FF7, the gameplay wasn't even that drastically different. The only difference between that and the game before (gameplay wise) was the Limit Breaks. Unless Limits are the difference between kickass and crappy, I'll have to disagree.
38special
03-11-2004, 02:03 PM
I like FF7, except I really wasn't so wild about the plot. I mean, the main character that we all learned to love... was a test tube baby, son of a hideous creation, brother/clone/whatever of the last boss, terrorist, and identity thief. Aeiris's death, however, while it certainly sucked, didn't really bother me that much. Probably because the was the worst character in my party. But I really love the freedom of having a gold chocobo. And am I the only one that thinks it's wierd that you can go to hades in that game?
I like th job system in FFV. FFVI was a true classic, too. I just love the classic sprites.
rightwhatwasidoing?
03-11-2004, 04:24 PM
The best FF is definately 7, I mean, all before 7 had horrible graphics and crappy gameplay, but 7 and up were all great games with the exception of 9. 7 Started the good games of final fantasy. 8 was ok, but got boring running back and forth, and getting to ultemacia's castle and noticing that you screwed up or didn't get someting right after you saved kinda blows, 9 just sucked, need i say more. and 10 had good gameplay, blitzball was annoying when trying to get wakka's sigil, seriously who really wants to play 5 or more leagues of blitzball. Although the gameplay was awsome great graphics and such, the story line wasn't as good as I thought it'd be, not a bad one though. and X-2, god, just cause they make a ff on PS2 they think they should make a sequel, cough cough bad idea cough cough. 7 was the best in my opinion, with the chocobo racing, MATERIA(best thing ever), the weapons, the story line, you can't beat it, honestly, if you don't like 7 you should burn in hell.
First off, you make it sound like all games before 7 are crappy because they didn't have great graphics. That is just sad, are you really that shallow? Not to mention if you didnt like ff9, put a reason so i can understand the way you think (that was my first ff, and it was just as riviting as the others to me) and besides, why does everyone think materia is the best thing ever. With that there really is no difference between characters other than limit breaks weapons and looks, because you can give everyone the same stuff and there's nothing unique. Thats what ive got to say.
38special
03-11-2004, 04:28 PM
I don't really like materia, because 1)they lower your stats and 2)you can only hold a limited amount
Outbounder
03-11-2004, 04:42 PM
It was the strategy of it that made it fun. Trying to decide what materia to use, with who, and all that.
And why do people keep bringing graphics into this? Better graphics don't make one game better than another. IF that were true then something like that britney spears game on playstation 2 or whatever would be a better game than the original Zelda.
38special
03-11-2004, 04:53 PM
Yeah, and that would also mean that FFX-2 was a good game.
<.<
>.>
Viktor Von Russia
03-11-2004, 06:14 PM
I too would have brought up Nanaki's comments on the graphics and (because I personally HATED it), the story of FF7, but I was trying to be objective. Nanaki strikes me as (no offense, bare with me 'cause I'm old) somewhat immature, what with saying everyone who doesn't agree with him that FF7 is good should I believe it was "burn in hell."
I didn't begrudge the graphics issue because I understand that when you're young, you don't really appreciate the classics, just as I didn't understand my parents' love of old projector quality movies. Young'ns like bright, shiny things. I know I did.
I didn't press the issue of the allegedly good storyline because that's a matter of taste. To me, if an ending is as open-ended and well, confusing as FF7's, it ruins the whole story up to that point. I also found the statement that FF7 began the line of "good FF's" to be laughable. Unless Nanaki's serious, in which case I apologize, his post sounds somewhat like a device to piss people off and start flames.
[Edit]: Also, upon reading your post again, Nanaki, you should learn to edit your posts instead of double posting. Kinda like what I'm doing here. Wouldn't want to anger the mods, now would you?
redhead546
03-12-2004, 09:53 PM
Has anyone tried FFXI online yet? I havn't, but I would like to know what people think about it.
BlackMageNuke
03-12-2004, 11:00 PM
would u call me a newb? being that ive palyed almost all rpg that the us has to offer i doubt u would. now onto the games i only say i like ff7 because it was a game to pass MUCH time. i understand about the materia that pissed me off so did the chocobo breeding. in the end i just stopped messing around with chcobos and stats cuz all u have to do is get to 99 with everyone and u can 4 shot sephiroth ONE of the most kewlest bosses EVER. ff6 was a lot of fun just too many chars. to lvl. and with the whole graphics issue graphics dont mean a thing in video games it just makes them kewler to look at but i still find ff1 better than ff10 which sucked so much but thats becuase i like th gameplay and this online comic BLACK MAGE AWAY
:bmage: "I am not scared of death. Why you ask? Because heaven wont take me and hell is too scared ill take over"
:fighter: "I like swords"
:wmage: "You are a horrible little monster and i pray for your quick and merciless death"
:bmage: " You want me"
The_Bear
03-15-2004, 09:57 PM
I didn't like materia becasue it meant that everyone could use the same spells as everyone else. It just came down to which 3 characters you liked the best, and which ones had the best limit breaks.
Evil Penguin Mage
03-16-2004, 04:35 PM
I liked FFVII..dunno I just did -.- FFV is pretty good too....
Ace of Spades
03-16-2004, 09:20 PM
7!!!!!!!! 5!!!!!!! and Tactics. Really, they are the best. I mean, really why do people think 8 was good. It was the worst one I ever played. I hate you 8 lovers
~Gives stink eye~
Viktor Von Russia
03-16-2004, 09:56 PM
Since nobody has to date changed my mind, I still say FF6 is better than 7. Here's a list of reasons (there may be more, but I forgot):
1. FF6 had a better story. The main plots of the two games weren't anything special. I pick 6 over 7 in this respect because each of the characters had good, relatively detailed stories.
2. The Gogo mystery. Intriguing, and still has people arguing about it today. The best FF7 had to offer against this was its main story; hardly anyone understood it the first time through.
3. Magicite. You could customize your characters with them, you learn spells from them, you get summons with them. I prefer that over materia.
4. Unique abilities. Every character had something that no other character can do. Sure, FF7 had Limit Breaks, but you can't pull those out any time you want.
5. Kefka. Best. Villain. Ever. Man, I love his laugh.
6. A dancing moogle. Mog is the man. FF7's got Cloud and Sephiroth, but they've got nothing on Mog.
7. Interceptor the Wonder Dog. There's no better feeling than almost losing to Kefka, who then attacks Shadow,Interceptor blocking, then killing Kefka with a Wild Fang.
I think that's most of it. I'll edit in the rest if I think of more.
Solid Snake, I think that brought a tear to my eye.
Yes, as I'm sure you've read somewhere, FFVII is my favorite. But not for what you think. For one thing, FFVII was not my first FF. FFVI was.
Sadly, I cannot remember my first time through the game. It came out when I was in 4th grade, and I was still in my "watch my brother do everything and do it the exact same way" shtick. In other words, Through my first time through (and many, many times after that) I didn't understand a word they were saying. I didn't know jack about the plot and didn't seem to care. All that I cared about was that Cloud and Sephiroth were "teh cool!11!1". In fact, I even remember that I wasn't even impressed with it at first. I remember choosing to play a game of Hide and go Seek with my sister instead of some quality time playing. And by the time I was smart enough to actually read the text, I already knew the ending and all the plot changes so it was old and boring.
With all things considered, FFVII should not be my favorite, right? Just another game that I was too stupid to like, right? Wrong. And here's why.
Firstly, yes Cloud and Sephiroth play a big part in me liking the game. Both characters are very cool in their own ways. With Cloud, he was a giant sword wielding bad ass, but at the same time, confused, guilty and ashamed of his own past. I can relate to him in some ways and it's cool to see how he reacts to situations in the game. I like Sephiroth mostly because of his evilness. He's incredibly smart and insane so that you hate him so much, you just want to pound his face in. The way he killed Aries played a big part there too, I was numb with disbelief at first. And even Tseng of the Terks, I never expected him to just kill him like that. For me, Sephiroth broke some important video game rules, and it really impressed me.
Second, the story. The way each character has a deeply involved back round to them, it really helps you relate to them. And as we all know, FFVII's story is the deepest in any FF game. Or just about any game for that matter. The way they executed it may be confusing at first, but once you understand it, very efficiently used. Like, say, that one room in the Temple of Ancients. The way Sephiroth kept teleporting in front of you like that, and how crazy Cloud got, really expresses the emotion of the characters and what's going on with the general plot. No game, not even VI has done that.
Third, the game play. The Materia system is invincible in that you can make endless customization with each character, giving you endless combinations. And the second point, which I'm sure a lot of y'all are going to disagree with me here, is that it eliminates one of the most troubling choices in most role-playing games. I'm sure you noticed that in FFVII, the characters have no defined skills or features from each other, which would knock down game play. However, In other RPG's, I always have the burden deciding which character to put into my party: The one I respect more due to their personality or their disposition, or the character that's more powerful. In the end, I usually choose the character I like better for who they are, not who's more powerful. It's still a difficult choice and a pain. FFVII eliminates that by making each character's special abilities more subtle, AKA limit breaks. And while some character limit breaks are clearly better than other's, you won't be at too much of a disadvantage by putting one guy in your party instead of another.
Fourth, the graphics. I know now that the graphics look pretty bad compared to today's standards (Hey look! Cloud has hooves!), but the simply fact it's in 3D means a lot. It helped immensely in telling the story and making it more immersive. This is probably the biggest reasons I think FFVII's story is stronger that VI's.
And lastly, the music. Each track defines that area or character so well, it gives you the exact mood or feeling for whoever you are or whoever you're talking to. The music is excellent quality and I frequently find myself putting tracks in my MP3 player.
So yes, FFVII will remain to be my all-time favorite game for now. FFVI is close behind with Earthbound tied. I don't think any other game will give me the feeling Final Fantasy VII did.
There you go.
Ace of Spades
03-19-2004, 12:45 PM
FF7= coolest storyline, magic cool, awsome music for bosses.
FF5=Can choose classes, and has some neat crud in it.
FF9= Vivi is cool
FF10=SUCKS
FF8=SUCKS MORE THAN JENNA JAMESON DURING A SNOW BLIZZARD
FF Tactics=Tied with 7
Mirai Gen
03-20-2004, 06:31 PM
Now that we can ignore AoS forever....rejoice!
FFT and FFTA - Freedom of class choices? characters change on those choices? Turn based? SIGN ME UP!
FF7 - too much hype, too much love...not a wonderful game, but it was pretty nice for the first 3d FF. Alot of 'the world has more to it than you see!" but at the same time it just wasn't my cup of tea. Hey that rhymed. The materia system was just downright irritating at times. I'm way too old school for FFs to like it, I think.
FF8 - Couldn't stand the battle system.
FF9 - never tried it.
FF10 - like it, and they need to improve on it a little bit...oh wait, we have
FFx-2 - never tried it, but I heard they made it better than FFX
Nique
03-20-2004, 07:14 PM
FF8 - Couldn't stand the battle system.
How was the BATTLE system different than other FFs? It was the same ATB system used in 7... do you mean the magic/junctioning system?
like it, and they need to improve on it a little bit...oh wait, we have
FFX-2 is worth playing, but it isn't better than X. It's devoid of the deepness that X had, unless you want to really read into everything and write some angsty fanfiction about it... But yeah, I love X-2, but i wouldn't compare it to X.
Oh, and 9 is worth playing. I guess it's more 'oldschool', so you may like it.
Magic E-Mail Chicken
03-20-2004, 07:56 PM
FF-8 ROCKS!!!!!!!!
The perfect combination of graphics, storyline, and battle.
It's the best one they ever made and ever will make.
Some games were complete failures. "CoughkingdomHeartscough"
RedMageClone#532
03-22-2004, 07:01 PM
I compleatly agree wit Atma, I'm not as good at typing out my feelings about anything but if i could i would say the exact same thing. FF7 is definetly the best, followed closely by FF3<--------the only 2 games that brought a tear to my eyes.
videogamerz2000
03-29-2004, 11:32 AM
FF4---> Greatest classic of all time
FF6---> Best cast of characters
FF7---> Superb protagonist (Cloud) and antagonist (Sephiroth)
FF8---> Best battle system
FF10---> Best storyline
I_Like_Swordchucks
04-01-2004, 02:49 PM
Hmm. There are two of the Final Fantasies that will always hold a special place in my heart...
First, FFVI. I wanted to be Locke when I grew up. Amazing story, amazing characters... just plain wonderful.
Then FFIX. I now want to be Zidane. I'm not sure which I like better, but they both made me very very happy boy.
So. yeah. The question is who I like better... Locke or Zidane... makes you wonder why Thief isn't my favorite character...
Solus
04-03-2004, 04:55 PM
FF6 is my favorite. Lots of charactors. Lots of armor set ups. Lots of story. (although I dont like how its so easy to miss so many parts of the story.) Lacks as many obvious overpowered skills like Lion Heart and quick attack.
chaos agent
04-03-2004, 05:24 PM
FFVI is definitely my favorite. Not only does it have one of the best soundtracks, storylines, and characters; but the battle system is simple and effective, and it combines all of the elements seamlessly.
Ingonyama
04-04-2004, 11:34 AM
FFX & X-2 = Best storyline and effects
FF7 = most fun gameplay
FF8 = Best challenge factor
FF4 = Best use of job classes...if only you could switch characters at will...
DjBeeRMaN
04-05-2004, 01:59 AM
Well here's how I'd rate all FFs:
FF1: Well, classics are classics. Had fun playing through once, not sure if I'd want to do it again. One word: INEFFECTIVE
FF2: This one is hands down the most difficult FF ever. Building up your characters is freakishingly long and difficult, and they can't seem to be quite as strong as you need them to be to advance without getting repeatedly killed :p
FF3: The base of the class system that's been adapted masterfully in many subsequent installments... Actually, this one I haven't finished entirely, because of gross lack of time.
FF4: This is the game that got me hooked on FF. The first to have an actual story, and what a story it was! Classic save-the-world, but with so many twists and a great cast of characters.
FF5: Another game with the job system, but with a rather limited cast, it didn't have the impact of FF4 or FF6. I liked the concept of two worlds merging into one though.
FF6: I consider it the best FF of all time. Killer cast of characters, story out of this world, the ability to actually choose your final party, a villain you loved to hate for the entire game (something that, ironically, most FFs lack), revolutionary graphics (at the time) and soundtrack (at the time)
FF7: There are two elements that make FF7 different than FF6, other than the reduced cast of characters: the death of Aeris (best dramatic effect in a FF) and the constant adversity between Cloud and Sephiroth, the best man vs. man adversity there is in a FF. Those two elements alone are reason enough to play the game.
FF8: Too bad the battle system absolutely sucked, because I think it has the best story and third best characters (ahead of FFX and 6) in a FF game. And for some reason, I never get tired of listening to Liberi Fatali :D
FF9: The return to non-generic characters and the ability learning system would have been great if the story didn't phase out for most of Disc 3... and completely disappeared on Disc 4 :p
FFX: It blew me away. Revolutionary progression system (grid), graphics and sound, deep and rich storytelling, multi-dimensional and complete characters... (best cast of characters of any FF in my opinion) What can I say? It was an experience.
FFX-2: Don't let the absence of negative reviews fool you, kids. This game is horrible. It takes the wondrous story and characters of FFX, twists and compresses them into shadows of their former selves. (read: dressing and behaving like those bimbos you see at school, you know, those sluts who have entirely too much make-up on...) It also features the worst soundtrack of any FF (and the worst chocobo music for that matter). Oh, and the mini-games... what is it with the mini-games and sidequests in recent games? Don't have enough story to tell, so you need some filler? A little is ok, but when the side stuff takes more than half of the game, don't you think there's a problem?
Sorry about that, this game disappointed me so much, I have a hard time not pounding it to the unholy ground that spewed it out. I will admit that the battle system is one of the best I've seen though. But that alone isn't enough for a game to be good. So, unless you're a 13 year-old hyperactive girl, stay the hell away from this game.
FFXI: I haven't played it, I've heard good things about it. But I ain't ready to fork over a 100-or-so bucks + 10 bucks/month to play a game that looks disturbingly similar to Diablo 2 or Ultima Online.
Cain the long shot
04-07-2004, 07:59 PM
I full heartilly agree with the review of ffX-2 it was disturbingly bad, but the best in my opinion is a tie between FF6 and FF8. They both had a very good story, FF8 introduced a revolutionary Junction system. While, FF6 had a great cast of characters including a previous boss (Gogo) and developed them all pretty well. However all of the games Except ffX-2 were pretty damn good.
P.S. 6 had limit breaks, just worked differently then 7. If you attack with a character except Gogo and Umaro. There is a chance that they will use a limit break.
Shuuk Asster
04-13-2004, 11:17 AM
FF6, without a doubt, is the best RPG (if not game) ever. I'm a debater, so I don't make claims without warrants. Here you go.
1. Ultros- Yeah, remember him? If a situation was ever going bad, getting you down, or whatever, Mr. Comic-Relief would come in, make some idiotic comment, and change the mood. You have to love Ultros.
2. Shadow- Show me a more bad ass character. S/he doesn't exist. Anyone that would, and I quote, "Slit his momma's throat for a nickel" is a bad ass. Also, do the dream sequences and you get to know his character even more. Pure awesomeness.
3. Limitless possibilites- In this I am referencing the plausability of playing this game 100 times with a different team each time. Think about it, with 12 (I think it was 12, anyways) characters to choose from, each having their own abilities, just flat out rocked.
4. Gau- A lot of people didn't like Gau, but that was probably because they didn't have the time/patience to level him up on the Veldt. I remember gettind damn near every single Rage for him. They flat out rocked. You could even do Leo's Shock move with one of the rages (I forget which).
5. Story- Damn cool story. Evil empire that you have to overthrow, with a twist at the end of the WoB. Evil Kefka destroys everything with his giant laser beam and his maniacle laugh. Damn cool.
6. The Opera Scene- I think this one pretty much goes without saying. It was pure genius by Square.
7. Magicite- Great idea here. You get stat bonuses with each level up with these bad boys on. Plus, you get some pretty damn cool magic to boot.
8. Soundtrack- Once again, the opera scene fits here too. But when I think of the soundtrack, the Doma/Cyan music comes to mind... brings chills to my spine.
9. Gogo- What is a Final Fantasy without the ability to Mime? And a character whose soul responsibility IS to mime. Gogo was shrouded in mystery, which left everybody guessing who he/she/it was.
10. Kappa the Imp- Strongest character in the game. Keep reading, this isn't blasphemy. Go to the Colisseum, get a Rename Card. Take your most useless character (or a good one, if you wish. I used Setzer) and rename them Kappa. Now give them all of the Imp equipment (Imp Halbred, Tortise shield, etc.) INDESTRUCTABLE! No one can touch him. Period.
11. Sidequests- This is where everyone says "FF7 Ro><erZ my So><ERZ!!HL!L!OLOLOL!!11!" Well, I hate to disappoint, but FF6 was chock-full of them. Hell, you could go and get Setzer in the WoR, visit Daryl's tomb, then beat the game, without getting your other 8 characters. There's 8 sidequests in itself. And then you've got tho Magi Tower, Pheonix Cave, 8 Dragon's quest, Cyan's dream sequence. And the list goes on. It's hours upon hours of pure fun.
12. Battle System- An awesome battle system, if I do say so myself. Every character has their own abilities, most of which are somewhat handy. You've got Shadow's Throw, Cyan's SwdTech, Sabin's Blitz (!), Edgar's tools, and the list goes on. Hell, even Relm's Sketch could be useful (cool little glitch ;) )
Well, if I've forgoten anything, I'll edit later. No, I'm no noob, so no flaming. I haven't played this game in YEARS... right now I'm going back through Chrono Trigger, so after that, I'll go back for some pure nostalgic fun. Later.
Forgotten Mage
04-13-2004, 09:40 PM
FFI The greatest of them all. (BTW if you didn't play the game you'd be amazed on how accurate the comics are to it).
I love the fact that 4 WAR's can pretty much beat the game while a party of WHM, WAR, RDM, BLM have such a hard time.
But FFXI holds a special place in my heart even though i suck at it.
Otaku on
04-13-2004, 10:28 PM
Final Fantasy. No, not Final Fantasy I, just Final Fantasy. The hardest game of all, simply becase it was so primative and the game engine couldn't handle all the complexities of today. I mean, the max Level was 50. And the final boss, Chaos, was always a random pain; he could either be extremely easy and you could kill him on Level 35(like I did) or extemely difficult and impossible to beat on Level 50(again, like he did to me). I don't know what caused this randomness even though I had the same exact party, but it happened. And the monsters...what a pain. Wait a second, why is my favorite Final Fantasy the hardest?
... ... ...
Oh, yeah, because I like challenges.
meh, i havent played them all, but i have to hand it to 6 for the best story out there.
nah..for me i'd have to go with final fantasy tactics THAT story was the best considering characters could actually die in battle and be removed permanantly and i loved the idea of cloud as a secret character with a new limit.
Sir Maximus of Lakshmi
04-15-2004, 11:42 AM
YOU LOSERS!! J/K
*sigh*
You all forgot about Final Fantasy Tactics!
FF Tactics had (in my opinion) the best job system in all the games, but there are better FF games that i like (FF, FFIV, FFXII, FFXIII, FFIX, FFX, and FFXI) But over all i realy liked the job system in FF tactics. It had so many Jobs you can be :D
Then theres FFTactics Advance, Its an O.K game but not as fun as the Original. I hated how you had to use a Cheep weapon or armor to learn a new Technique in FFT Advance. I like the way they did it the old way.( Job points) Then the story In FFTactics Adv. realy !SUCKS!
Gunner11B
04-20-2004, 10:02 PM
I really like FF9. It is the most funnest to me and i love the music in that game. Also all the characters are so cool and funny most of the time. and it may be weird but i think garnet is really hot. DONT JUDGE ME.
Id like to point out another good reason to play FF7......The date at the golden saucer! This is one good reason out of many that you should play FF7.Ive done Dates with all the characters possible,and I believe that the 'best',and most Hilarious would have to be with Barret.If you havent tried it,I wholly suggest that you do!
Torint author of fics!
04-23-2004, 11:26 AM
Nine. A BM rip off, a guy with big armor, and a kid with a tail. What's not to love?
mabartsabay
04-24-2004, 12:09 PM
I'm not entirely sure about my fav. I've only played 1-9 and I think I'll list my favorites by system
Nintendo it would have to be... I, II, III
Super Nintendo/Famicom... V, III, VI, MQ
Playstation... VIII, VII, IX, T
All time Fav... V I just love the job system! The story is pretty good(I haven't really finished the game yet(the only one I ever beat was FFI when it came out in Origins))Although, I hear the game is entirely too long...hmmm...
CC was good, also haven't beat, but I don't like this one thing about it. If you're playing one player mode, and you get sick of the character you're using after a while, you go and make another character, and the enemies are just the same difficulty as though you'd played the entire game with the new character. The new chaacter's stats are no match for the more powerful enemies... blah... :(
Lockeownzj00
04-24-2004, 12:16 PM
err, why did you list III and VI as different items? For the Super Nintendo, moreover? They're the same game.
FinnMacCool
04-24-2004, 11:38 PM
Maybe he meant IV?
Joe Falco
04-25-2004, 12:35 AM
Someone doesn't know their Roman numerals ;)
but for those of you who have a low opinion of FF8, I came upon this fan-comic recently:
FF8/Megaman (http://www.bobandgeorge.com/Fancomics/Paint/Paint.html?21)
Enjoy!
"I don't like you."
"I don't care."
That was good. My only complaint about VIII was that I found junctioning hard, yo. Forget if I posted in this thread, but my favorite has to be IX for combining characters with unique abilities with the ability to customize other abilities.
mabartsabay
04-26-2004, 11:08 AM
Yeah, oops, IV
You see I really get screwed up with the Japan/America titles for the Snes. Isn't it in America they have FFII and FFIII; whilst in Japan it's FFIII, FFIV, and FFV?
It's all so vexing...
FinnMacCool
04-26-2004, 11:13 AM
Actually...In Japan they have FF IV, FFV, and FFVI on SNES (or Super Famcom). On NES they got FFI, FFII, and FFIII.
mabartsabay
04-26-2004, 11:38 AM
Yeah...that's why I'm confused...
Nique
04-26-2004, 07:50 PM
It isn't that hard. Just don't familarize youself with the games via the OLD american way. Becuase most of them have been relesed in america now, its easy;
FF1 - US-JP origonal release/ rereleased in FF orgins
FF2 - JP origonal release/ rereleased in FF origins
FF3 - (JP only)
FF4 - US-JP release (In US as FF2)/ rereleased in FF chronicles
FF5 - JP origonal release/ rereleased in FF Anthology
FF6 - US-JP origonal release(In US as FF3)/ rereleased in FF Antholgy
FF7-XI are all all both JP and US release. But as you can see, its easier to think of the games in terms of their JP release, instead of the US origonal release.
FinnMacCool
04-26-2004, 08:59 PM
http://www.rpgclassics.com/fanfics/fics/onionknight.shtml
Check that out. That's some good FFIII goodness. I dunno why I like FFIII. Might be because it had the original class system and 8-bit dragoons. It was pretty innovative for its time.
mabartsabay
04-27-2004, 10:33 AM
Cool...I think I knew all that...somewhere deep inside of me...it all makes sense now...something I had lost...long ago... ... ... ... ......!
Yeah! Thanks for your help!!
vegeto18
04-27-2004, 01:28 PM
"I like 7. Like most FFs great story. Some of the characters are a little static, but that's okay. The music, as always, is amazing. Greatest villain ever. Hehe, I pretty much repeated what Falco said. But 7 has one thing 6 doesn't: Materia. Best magic system ever concocted."
What are you talking about?! FF III magic and summoning system is better than FFVII's. Granted their is more diversity in 7 but FF III's is far more effective. In FFIII you equip esper shards with various magic and a summon, once you master a shard, you pernamently keep its magic but not the summon (You have to equip a shard to use a summon). In FFVII's you have have to equip one magic materia and one summon. The only advantage in 7 is that you can equip more than 4 summons while in 3, you get a max of four summons. Though I like FFVII (I'm still trying to beat it, it's my first time, and i'm on disc 1), I'm going to say that FFIII is the best.
Nique
04-27-2004, 04:41 PM
So, just for consistency, let's keep in mind what FF III in the US ACTUALLY IS (VI)
Come on guys. Put away that super nintendo and buy FF Anthology. teh fanboys will love you for it.
Empire
04-28-2004, 05:53 AM
I'd say FFVII, because, the story line, the materia system is awesome, the limit break system, along with a few other things.
FinnMacCool
04-28-2004, 08:34 AM
I have to get this out...Sorry.
EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW! FF7 IS TEH SUXORZ! POOP! ALL MY BASE BELONG TO SOMEHWER ELSE!
Ahhh...FFVI kicks FFVII from here to Pakistan then sells it into concubine-slavery to an overweight Muslim named Bub. No, I do not need to explain why. The fanboys will do that for me when they pounce.
Sir Minimus of Lakshmi
04-28-2004, 05:43 PM
I feel that all FF's are great and all, but the one that seemed the best to me, was FFVIII since the GF junctioning system was entertaining and allowed more than one person to summon unlike in FFX and FFIX.
Joe Falco
04-28-2004, 06:38 PM
I have to get this out...Sorry.
EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW! FF7 IS TEH SUXORZ! POOP! ALL MY BASE BELONG TO SOMEHWER ELSE!
Ahhh...FFVI kicks FFVII from here to Pakistan then sells it into concubine-slavery to an overweight Muslim named Bub. No, I do not need to explain why. The fanboys will do that for me when they pounce.
Bub? lol That was delightfully random but at least you got that out of your system.
Anyway...back to topic
For me, I enjoyed the job system from FFV the best. It seemed much more fun and it provided me with ways how to plan strategies and so on and so forth. With that system, the bard class was actually worth something! (Not much, mind you, but certainly better than FF4's Gilbert) FFV's job system offers more opportunities to customize and have fun with than any other system, in my humble opinion. :cool:
videogamerz2000
04-28-2004, 07:15 PM
The only thing in FFV for the job system that I didn't like was the non-abundance of getting JP or whatever..... maybe I was just training in bad areas....
Creamsteak
04-29-2004, 08:54 PM
How was the BATTLE system different than other FFs? It was the same ATB system used in 7... do you mean the magic/junctioning system?
The magic system did suck pretty bad, but there were some neat spells in FF8 that were not in previous games. Meltdown comes to mind mostly, but so does the ability to give yourself a limit break and temporary invulnerability.
The MAJINMARINE
04-30-2004, 06:03 PM
:bmage: I have to say FF7, it was my first exposure to the series, and ive been hooked ever since. SEPHROTH IS SO BAD ASS! lol I really love the story and music in TACTICS THOUGH hmmm. To bad that demon guy keeps turning my party to stone! arrrrggghhh i need soft! :mad:
Nique
04-30-2004, 08:25 PM
On FFVIII
The Magic system worked great, but I've been convinced that it had a fundamental 'flaw', if you could even call it that, which i don't think it really is... cuased by the 'enemy' leveling up system, and the manner of junctioning's deployment. It was still really cool though, IMO.
Jewzeppe
05-03-2004, 10:01 PM
i dunno about u guys...but i personally prefer final fantasy 10...because of its amazingly sickly movies, graphics, plot is good too, music, characters, YAY TIDUS, ff8 is good too
ShyGuy
05-08-2004, 08:23 PM
Adventure.... FF Adventure (a.k.a. original Sword of Mana). Old-school GameBoy goodness.
swifters
05-08-2004, 11:44 PM
Chrono Trigger and FF6 are the best I've played. (I've played FF1 - FF6 and Chrono Trigger via emulators) FF4 was decent, but I found the character's abilities rather dull and the battles unexciting, there was no actual challenge in the game, not even in the final battle. I love Chrono Trigger because the battle system simply wonderful and the graphics are the best they could be without losing that little 'old school' touch, and I liked the storyline as well. FF6 I loved for a couple of reasons, the storyline was marvelous and the game itself freaking huge.
Wow this is my first post in quite a while, eh...
Gunner11B
05-10-2004, 07:50 PM
My favorite is ff9. Nothing and I mean NOTHING can compare to that game. One reason I like it is becouse the music and its got such a great plot. Plus it fun.
Red Mage20xx
05-15-2004, 09:46 PM
either ff1 or ff9 because ff9 has a kickass story, music but they could have improved the graphics a bit, and even know i was just complaining about graphics i like ff 1 because of the graphics (dont ask how that works) and because you can select your own team at the beginning of the game!:rmage:
Gunner11B
05-16-2004, 11:58 AM
Finally someone who agrees with me and likes ff9. Everything is good yes but graphics arnet perfect, but you must remember that it was a playstation 1 game, but I say it was good for playstation.
Magic Juggler
05-17-2004, 06:55 PM
Final Fantasy V. I really enjoyed the Job System and the many possibilities it afforded one. Want to create a martial-artist ninja? Go ahead. Want the ultimate Swordmaster capable of casting Flare with each strike, 8 strikes per attack? X-fight, Double Sword, and Sword Magic are all well and good. Want a Bard-Alchemist? The options are theoretically endless!
Plus, fighting an evil tree was an interesting change of pace. In most games/plotlines/etc. you have to save a tree. Not that I'm anti-environmentalist or anything...
Kenryoku_Maxis
05-19-2004, 11:35 AM
I am finally playing FFVIII all the way through and it is without doubt my favorite. Characters, Game System, Original Story, First Person Narriative type diologue and Triple Triad. I just am having a blast. And its one of my favorite RPGs no doubt.
Oh yeah, and I'm already half way through Disk 3 so I'm not just stating all this on just playing the first Disk or something. -_-
I know some don't like FFVIII for whatever reason, but just saying I'm Lovin' it. Like the McDonalds commercial....but not. -_-
someguy
05-22-2004, 12:24 AM
yeah, great game, that one, but how come its not as hyped up as all the others????
my guess is that it had just too much to live up to after FFVII.
oh yeah, and its FFIIX moron....
Kenryoku_Maxis
05-22-2004, 03:17 AM
oh yeah, and its FFIIX moron....
What kind of ROman Neumeral is IIX...? 9 - 1? ....10 - 2? ....12 backwards?
someguy
05-22-2004, 05:42 AM
8 , what do they teach you in school???
IIX= -2 +10=8
XII=10 + 2=12
sigh* dumbass
Living Bobbeh
05-22-2004, 06:01 AM
I'm playing FFVIII as well, ATM I'm on the first disk just about to fight Edea on the pareade.
Kenryoku_Maxis
05-23-2004, 08:16 PM
8 , what do they teach you in school???
IIX= -2 +10=8
XII=10 + 2=12
sigh* dumbass
.........................wow
someguy
05-24-2004, 05:44 AM
yes, I am pretty "wow"....
Kenryoku_Maxis
05-24-2004, 11:23 AM
yes, I am pretty "wow"....
While IIX does mean 8, its only because IIX DOES mean 8 - 2. However, it is written Final Fantasy VIII on the box, just as all the FF games are Written I, II, III< IV, V, VI, VII, VIII, IX, X, XI, and the upcoming XII on the box, their posters, soundtracks and everything else. So either your trying to pick a fight and just be an ass who wants an argument....or you have no idea what you are talking about.
Dark Prophet
05-24-2004, 11:55 AM
I honestly cannot see how anyone can chose a favorite. All FF's are good in some way, shape, or form.
FF, the original....the start of it all(and the reason why we have 8-bit theater).
FF2(the NES, japan only until FForigins one), innovative with the no-xp, only gain skills by using, lose if not using system.
FF3, the first one to where you can CHOSE your class(start as onion kid, work your way from there)
FF IV, first epic storyline where there was a good amount of romance involved(Cecil saves his girly friend tons of times....and Rydia with that Edge guy)
FF V, ok....so it wasn't the best, but it had a cool system of job skills by itself.
FF VI, One of the best pre-playstation FF games ever. Great story, tons of hidden characters and sidequests. The esper system was the basis for FFVIII's GF system....come on!
FFVII, they made its sequel a movie....and it was the first with CG animated cutscenes...the story(reguardless of others opinions) was nearly flawless. I guess the only disadvantage it had was that there was TOO much to do.
FFVIII, GF system, second on Playstation, had a HUGE romance storyline.....If you ever had seen a FF game before or since(exept FFX-2) that your GIRLFRIEND or WIFE would want to play with you, good luck.
FFIX, very retro. Ultima was unusable(like stated in 8-bit theater....the theoretical 10th level spells). Great summon system(and skill learning system too). I loved that using the Chocobo forest stuff could get you VERY good weapons VERY far before they were buyable(oak staff much!) and the fact that the end place had the "Crystal" and the "Four Fiends"....and notice before Kuja's battle you had to fight the Fiends again(like in FF the original).
FFX, new system, new storyline, no longer turn based battles(at least not completely), innovative skill learning type....and BLITZBALL!
FFX-2, ok, so I can agree, this was probably one of the most RUSHED and FLAW oriented FF games period....It is best said that this is the ONLY one I can say is not in a legue of its own....well actually the clothes changing and better flowing FMV's did show how far they have come since FFX but, it really relied too much on the "Girl Power" sentiment for me to like it....someone else might, but I didn't
Kenryoku_Maxis
05-24-2004, 04:14 PM
I think there's alot of conflicting views and stereotypes in there...along with things others won't agree with and conclusions you obviously come to because you really like Playstation and Final Fantasy. But hey, they're your views and I'm not gonna say they're wrong...
Just mentioning it.
RaiRai
05-24-2004, 05:01 PM
someguy, you...yes. 'Wow' works. IIX isn't a legitimate numeral...that's why it's VIII. Or was that a joke I missed? Somehow I just have this sense that isn't the case...
On looking back it would appear it isn't a joke. Before you go around calling people morons, try to avoid proving yourself as one. Works wonders.
CrustyAstos
05-27-2004, 06:28 PM
My favorite has to b 7. Its awesome. I luv the plot and characters...(tifa..heh heh). ;) .Clouds hair rocks too. Is every one excited about FF7:Advent Children as much as i am?
*Ecuy dwid!
:fighter: "I'll AO ur CR if u kno wut i mean..."
someguy
05-29-2004, 05:12 AM
you fool of a took!
the romans used to use the shortest form of the numeral that they could find, and in this case IIX IS shorter than VIII, although both make sense, the standard rule is that the shortest form is used
so check up on your facts before trying to give me a lecture, ok?
NOTE: and i did say bothwork
Kenryoku_Maxis
05-29-2004, 01:00 PM
Oh wow. Just go look at the game...
Fifthfiend
05-30-2004, 01:51 AM
Someguy:
I wish you the best of luck in your campaign to make Square-Enix rename its bestselling PS1 title. I am sure, with your natural charm and persuasive rhetorical style, that you shall be able to make them see the error of their ways.
someguy
05-31-2004, 12:41 AM
for that I thank you....
check encarta.com, they'll tell you the rule is three bars are never used... search for roman numerals although I didnt read it thoroughly <and by that I mean not at all>, Im confudent they said something to support my claim...
If it turns out I was wrong, well.....
sucks to be me!
check it out and tell me later...
too lazy to do it myself (coupled with a fear of humiliation, which will be delayed if one of you peope do it for me)
someguy
05-31-2004, 12:46 AM
ok, I was wrong, but the romans were never consistent anyhow...
sry, yes I suck
I checked it up
the rule is "never use more than one negative bar"
yes I suck like hell
blackmagefanXX
06-06-2004, 01:38 AM
i like FF8 the best
Kenryoku_Maxis
06-06-2004, 01:43 PM
i like FF8 the best
Good man. ::Gives a Piece of Pie::
blackmagefanXX
06-06-2004, 10:49 PM
yay a peice of pie
Papacha
06-07-2004, 11:38 PM
My favorite has to be Tactics. I wasn't too keen on FFVIII *shrug* different strokes, eh?
someguy
06-13-2004, 09:16 AM
yeah tactics was great except for that battle in the beginning, in dortor trade city, with those knights/archers/wizards, that was REALLY tough, I had to train for ages until I could get past that level, On playing the game twice , I noticed a flaw in my strategy, I still had most of my units as squires, when I finally did beat that level,
Ramza was a knight, I had one wizard with counter magic, two more knights, and a chemist delita was a squire as was algus, they were all around levl 14-17
I found that the best thing to do was send ramza up to the archer along with delita and algus, and from that point keep using the yell ability until you have a significant speed advantage, I also made use of weapon break on the knight,, and archer. and magic break on the wizards,
that, for me was THE toughest battle inn the game, it made me feel obliged to do a little training berfore EVERY main battle
thats the kind of challenge and lasting memory that makes you love a game more so than any other
Kenryoku_Maxis
06-13-2004, 11:18 AM
yeah tactics was great except for that battle in the beginning, in dortor trade city, with those knights/archers/wizards, that was REALLY tough, I had to train for ages until I could get past that level, On playing the game twice , I noticed a flaw in my strategy, I still had most of my units as squires, when I finally did beat that level,
Ramza was a knight, I had one wizard with counter magic, two more knights, and a chemist delita was a squire as was algus, they were all around levl 14-17
I found that the best thing to do was send ramza up to the archer along with delita and algus, and from that point keep using the yell ability until you have a significant speed advantage, I also made use of weapon break on the knight,, and archer. and magic break on the wizards,
that, for me was THE toughest battle inn the game, it made me feel obliged to do a little training berfore EVERY main battle
thats the kind of challenge and lasting memory that makes you love a game more so than any other
I'm replaying Tactics because...well, I am. Always never been too fond of it. Basically, whatI am finding is I have to play a good 5 rounds of 'random' battles to be strong enough to stand up to 1 battle of 'story'. Basically, I have to be 1.5x stronger than my opponents always because the computer never messes up and if I don't want to lose a character (as I do even being 1.5x stronger as I did yesterday), then I have to train to ton before each major battle.
And I'm not even to the desert level yet (Story battle 4 maybe...).
Sweet Mussimmhunae
06-15-2004, 06:18 AM
IX, my first and favourite.
Reasons 1 through 7 would probably be Beatrix,
Next would be the gorgeous scenery, then The actual fun involved in playign the game, and finally the GF FMVs, so beautiful.
Toastburner B
06-15-2004, 11:39 AM
Favorite? Gah...I don't really have a favorite, so I'll just do what some others did and make a list.
Final Fantasy I - Can be best described as "meh". The novelty of having a custom build character party wears of after awhile, and its hard to keep going when you have no storyline other than "get crystals".
:fighter: : But it had me in it!
Not even that could save it, Fighter.
:fighter: : Crud.
FFII - Never played
FFIII - Never played
Final Fantasy IV(IIa) - Ahh...my first FF experince. Rented it once, have been hooked on FF ever since. I played it straight for like three days without food. Okay...a little lie, but still.
Final Fantasy V - Haven't played yet. I have Anthology, but I haven't got around to this one yet.
Final Fantasy VI - Oooooh. If I had to pick a favorite, it would be this. The memories are just too strong with this one. I rented this, then was lucky enough to get sick so I could play it all day. Thought, I must admit, I was too young to enjoy the finer parts of the game, such the Opera scene, and how tragic Cyan's and Locke's backstories are. And two word: Opera Scene.
Final Fantasy VII - Ahh, a classic. I don't know why everyone complains about the chocobo racing...I loved it! A good storyline, even though I knew Aeris was going to die before I bought the game (my friends were bemoaning it eariler). Still haven't beat this one, but I'm close...kinda.
FFVIII - Never played. Most of my friends didn't like it, but one says it's okay. Might borrow it from him someday.
Final Fantasy IX - How was this horrible? I enjoy this game. The only thing that bugs me about it is that I didn't find Chocobo's Forest until Disc 3 :mad:. And all I get from there are greens.
Final Fantasy X - A good game. One of the games I got when I bought my PS2. I don't know...I'm not as attached to these guys as I was to the characters in FFVI and FFVII. Still...Auron is the man.
FFXI - Never played. I refuse to play MMORPGs...because I don't have enough money for subscription.
FFXII - Wait...not out yet.
someguy
06-16-2004, 05:50 AM
I concur!
I lost a character once after the battle at fort zeakden, I thought I'd just pick up a new one at the soldier office, but man, was I wrong, After rescuing Algus from mandalia plains, forget the soldier office, you're better off restarting.
Its just too damn hard to build up the character levels after that as the random encounters are directed at the average party level (aka ramza's level) so your character will NEVER get up to speed.
That just sucked, I liked SWKOTOR's innovation of everyone getting the same amount of exp, but being allwed to use in differen ways eg more skills than feats, etc.
it made the game a little too easy as training for battles wasnt really possible, but it could be tweaked to allow the same experience without the above mentioned hassle.
blackmagefanXX
06-17-2004, 04:16 PM
i still think FF8 is best :p
tactics wasn't so bad ..it was only those times when you had to face 'special' enemies like the demon bosses that made the game tough..
Kirby Pufocia
06-19-2004, 12:00 AM
So, am I the only one that doesn't suck at FFT? I don't understand what people find so difficult about the game.
The "computer never messes up" mentality is a flawed one at best. The AI is predictable and idiotic. They have specific goals in mind, but it mostly goes to the tune of "get in range of an enemy and attack until dead." Take a Time Mage. On its very first turn, it's going to move toward your characters. If there's an ally within range, it'll use Haste on this same turn. On its second turn, it'll move exactly far enough from one of your characters that its next movement will put it in range, but without getting close enough for any melee attackers to get a shot in. After that, Slow or Stop is a sure bet.
If you can, make the enemies come to you. Take the Sand Rat Cellar for example. Just about the worst thing you can do is send your party in blindly, allowing them to be pummeled by the Knights. No - the first turn you get, move everyone the hell away from the fort. Attack enemies as they come to you, but try to focus on one or two. After all, one dead and two healthy Knights is far better than three slightly damaged ones, no?
I wish I could give more specific and in-depth tips, but most of your strategies will come with experience. I can however, tell you that your Jobs and Abilities are way more important than your levels. Seriously, if Experience is the only thing you're going for, you're barking up the wrong tree. Any non-human creature you encounter will be on-par with your party's highest-level member. And guess what? Monsters get a hell of a lot stronger with levels than do humans.
One of the most important things is to save often. With that, be sure to reset if one of your characters crystallizes. Who cares if you have to do the battle over? Do you really want to spend time building another character up? S'what I thought.
Above all, don't give up. Spend some time refining your strategy. Don't give up when you get killed. Ask yourself what you did wrong - what you weren't prepared for or that took you off-guard. Then do your best to minimize it the next time you try. Trust me, taking some time with the game mechanics will get you a lot farther than busting your controller in half because of the "cheap-ass AI."
On topic, my favorite is tied between Tactics and the sixth of the original series.
dudemullet
06-19-2004, 05:05 AM
i find it really cool thet people here actually talk about FFT, other people always seem to shove it away and not wnating to play it.
I find it is the best game. reason = This story could well be a book and be a greatseller WOW its just REALLY REALLY THAT good. ask anyone who has seen the part where * SPOILER * Ovelia stabs delita, then he kills her back, the best */SPOILER *
say no to FF8 and FF Mystic Quest
Kirby Pufocia
06-19-2004, 07:34 PM
8 and Mystic Quest are fine. It's 9 and above that everybody needs to avoid.
Hamelin
06-19-2004, 07:38 PM
I liked Mystic Quest myself. It was an easy RPG that one could play when they didn't feel like solving puzzles.
dudemullet
06-19-2004, 09:25 PM
IMO i think FF8 and Mystic quest are really n00bish as stated above with the less-puzzlesolving and FF8 - simply because of the permanent lvl up bar you could find some really powerfull monster and kill it a whole bunch of times and gian levels with each fight, I dont find anything interesting about that :rmage:
DreamWalker
06-20-2004, 10:40 PM
I would have to say my favorite Final Fantasy is Final Fantasy Tatics. And on a off note my favorite rpg is Earthbound
someguy
06-21-2004, 05:06 AM
yes, It was great, the most challenging FF, I have played to this day, as it let you determine your own course of action, try levelling up too much the monsters get too hard, try going into battles wihtout the slightest bit of training, you have to be an ub3r 1337 tactician to win without losing at least one member
Wanghat
06-22-2004, 11:51 PM
Well, considering it wasn't only my first FF but was even my first RPG back on the old NES, the original Final Fantasy remains my favorite out of sheer sentimental value.
Beyond that, it greatly improved on the concept of "console RPG" that was first seen in Dragon Warrior and has kept most console RPGs on a similar path to this day.
Kirby Pufocia
06-28-2004, 10:35 PM
IMO i think FF8 and Mystic quest are really n00bish as stated above with the less-puzzlesolving and FF8 - simply because of the permanent lvl up bar you could find some really powerfull monster and kill it a whole bunch of times and gian levels with each fight, I dont find anything interesting about that :rmage:
Haha, dude. The whole point of FF8 was not to level up - all of the enemies around you did so as well. You were supposed to junction magic to stats to increase your abilities (though I'll concede that this system was broken if you concede that you're a stupid-head).
Trust me on this. Having used cheat devices to attain the maximum level (100, if anybody cares, which you shouldn't), I can tell you for sure that you have no major advantage at that level over the characters' starting levels. Sure, you have 4000 Hp and average 500 damage with every attack. Well guess what - the Caterchipillars that you were mowing down at level 6 with considerable ease now have like 5 million Hp and do 800000000 with each attack, I'm not even kidding.
You missed the point of the game. I suggest you give it another try, junction system a priority in your mind.
Jinken
06-29-2004, 09:59 PM
FFT was a game worth a special place in gaming history (and I'm speaking of tactics for the psx). It used and excellent blend of strategy and basic RPG rules to create a nice...um...Stratigec RPG...NINJA DOUBLE SWORD ABILITY ROCKS!!!!! Ahem...as I was saying, The speed system worked well, and due to the fact they fell behind in the graphic region they created a decent story. I remember it as one of the few FF games I actually had the patience to replay once my sister formated my memory card. (Only other FF game was 7 and she did it again...then PS2 came out and I gave up) So I must say FFT is my favorite...followed closely by 7 and 4
sephiroth666
07-02-2004, 03:22 PM
everyone knows ff7 is the best ff in the whole series.
Sephiroth Rules. he already has many followers.(including me)
dam cloud...if only he died in the lifestream. god. he just had to live.
sephiroth666
07-02-2004, 03:34 PM
My favorite has to b 7. Its awesome. I luv the plot and characters...(tifa..heh heh). ;) .Clouds hair rocks too. Is every one excited about FF7:Advent Children as much as i am?
*Ecuy dwid!
:fighter: "I'll AO ur CR if u kno wut i mean..."
srry for the double post
hey i im lookin forward to ffac MORE then you ahahah. i even joined this forum on it. downloaded every version of the trailor i can too. and i know the storyline and the release date. october 1 i think.
story line:
it takes place 2 years after the end of ff7. and cloud is living with these orphans i think. and vincent, barret, cloud, tifa, and im not sure about the rest. but i know they are in it. and there is this mysterious man in a wheelchair. and there are 3 white haired men. none of them is sephiroth. and cloud wants forgiveness of somthing.. dunno. and cloud has his
fenrir(his bike) and the battle scenes look great. (on the forum they debat on aeris comming back, but there are some clues of of her definant return. and they ask about limit breaks in the movie(that would be cool) and summoning) that would be awesome too.
so if you wanna find out more go to www.adventchildren.net
Archbio
07-02-2004, 03:54 PM
FF6 is my favourite
Altough FF5 and FF1 have more versatility (I love the job system), they're lacking in many areas compared to the sixth one.
And FF8 had great moments and a good system but was just... too easy.
The point of FF8 (at least, the way I saw it last time I played) wasn't leveling up, it was gaining an edge while doing it. So it's not the number of levels, but the quality. Junctions, bonuses and the devour ability a really what can make the characters better than the strong monsters.
Hunter Lionheart
07-04-2004, 09:32 AM
My favourite would have to be FF7. I loved it to pieces, Ill explain why In time, but Its my favourite, followed by Tactics, 6, 6, 4 and 10...
However im in a rush so bleh!
Rogue Ashaman
07-05-2004, 11:47 AM
My favorite has to be Tactics with Tactics Advance right behind. Other than that my list would have to be this,
VIII, VII, X, IX, IV, (I havn't played these ones) X-2, VI, V, III, II, I, and XI (I HATE MMORGP's!)
I really need to go buy Anthology and X-2 one of these days. And mabye Origins just for the heck of it.
BM_Jaden
07-05-2004, 11:52 AM
I really liked FFT, but then again id have to have it tie with FF3 for SNES
FF3 was great, i beat it in like 24 hours,I liked the game and beat it in a timly fashion. :bmage:
so 1. FFT and FF3
2. FFTA
3. FF1- old school is still cool
4. the rest.
Hunter Lionheart
07-06-2004, 04:29 AM
Ok I now have time to post my list of which I have played, and what order their enjoyment is to me!
Final Fantasy 7
FF8
FFT
FF4
FF6
FFTA
FFX
FF5
FF1
FF9
FFLegend 3
FF2
Methinks thats about it... It doesn't count as a Final Fantasy so i didnt put it in, but if you count Chrono Trigger (as it was packaged with 4 in the USA) then it would sit just below Tactics on the list
Nikose Tyris
07-06-2004, 10:04 AM
FF7, FF3 (NES) and FF8. I cannot rank them, it is like saying which child is your favourite... LoL. final fantasy 8 was my favourite for graphics, FF7 cause it was the first one i played, and FF3 because i got stuck in it and spent 4 weeks trying to figure out the problem. stupid unbeatable seadragon...
Kuffie
07-08-2004, 12:43 PM
Look FF7 is awesome along with 9 tactics advanced and 1-5
Hunter Lionheart
07-09-2004, 10:38 AM
OK, I'm not wanting to start any arguements or anything, but I want someone to explain to me how you can coinsider the bland, boring FF9 a good game?
Sephiroth Mage
07-10-2004, 05:24 AM
i like all the FF games i've played...my favourite is probaly 7 or 8
Sephiroth Mage
07-12-2004, 06:09 AM
in order, 7,8,6,10,1,TA,5,10-2,4,2
MagicMinotaur
07-13-2004, 12:22 AM
Final Fantasy 6 was my favorite followed very closely by 7. I loved FF6 because it had a really good storyline and music. The characters were fairly well developed, besides a few of the optional characters, Umaro springs to mind. It jumps in fast and gets you guessing what everything is all about, then tells you gradually. Overall a great game. FF7 was very very close, like close enough to be pretty much the same, and mostly for the same reasons. It had a good storyline too, good music, and good characters, also keeps you guessing while explaining things as you go along. I also really loved the esper and materia systems for learning magic, I thought they were great. Anyway there's my two cents on the subject.
ArcaneMaster
07-22-2004, 08:13 AM
Call me a noob but my first final fantasy was number 9. I saw a walkthrough for it in one of my GamePro mags and thought it looked cool so I bought it and played through it using the walkthrough like a stupid idiot. Afterwards I vowed never again to use walkthroughs or cheat codes until after I had beaten the game on my own. I promptly went out and picked up 7, 8, Anthologys, and tactics. And played through them all. I later got origins, 10, and X-2 upon their releases and picked up 3, 4, and Mystic Quest for my SNES emulator. IMHO, 10 is the best of them all. The graphics are sweet, the story is sweet, the characters are sweet, and the sphere grid is hellasweet. I've played my file for over 130 hours and I would play farther if I know where my damn disc was. Stupid friends. I found six incredibly good as well but I found there to be too many characters for it to be my favorite (call me crazy.) I also love FFT because of it's awesome story and infinite character creation options. I did find Ultima to be entirely too weak but that's kind of what I find in every Final Fantasy. 7 was okay but Sephiroth's sword is just too f***in' big. There no way possible you could wield that well, let alone stab someone with it. X-2 sucked a$$ and I refuse to play 11 on principle. That's just me. Out.
Hacky
07-23-2004, 10:17 PM
I'd have to say VI, VII, and IX are my favorites. All equal.
VI was just great in every aspect. Storyline, Music, Character Developement, Systems, everything
VII had my favorite character (Vincent), the Storyline was classic without being retarted, Matera system ruled, and the whole thing where there aren't any clear Jobs for each character was awesome. And the whole Sephiroth's sword thing: I thought it was cool. Usualy when somebody is using something that "Is impossible" it's a sign that they have "inhuman" strenghts/skills, which was suppost to be portrayed through Sephiroth.
And IX was pretty much the oppisite of VII in a lot of ways yet the Systems (Magic, Ability, ect) rocked. Vivi is my second Favorite character of all time, he just rules.
My least favorites would have to be: VIII and XI. VIII's systems annoyed me and were way to much work than they were worth (I love Magic but it's basicialy set up to where you can't use much of it). XI was good for about a month of playing it however it got very repeatitive, very quickly, and it's like impossible to be good at it. I like a game with a Storyline, it's what keeps me playing. However XI's storyline required endless leveling, leveling requred that you get a pt, getting a pt required that the pt had a WHM, ect of just BS that leads to: You aren't getting to that Storyline very fast.
Okay...first of all, why do you say certain games sucked? Do you realize that every single Final Fantasy has been one of the best RPG's in the year each was released? What you really mean is that you did not enjoy it as much as six or seven.
Nine was not up to par with the most celebrated FF games, however, I found it quite enjoyable. The only thing I can not stand from the game is the Trance System, having to use the same weapon for hours to get an ability, and the amount of pointless characters i.e. Amarant, Freya, Quina, and, imo, Eiko.
Onward to my favorites.
My favorite story: FFVI
My favorite Nobou song: Liberi Fatali from FFVIII
My favorite male protagonist: Black Belt...er...I mean Cloud from FFVII.
My favorite female protagonist: Terra from FFVI closely followed by Tifa from FFII.
My favorite villain: Kefka from FFVI.
My favorite romance: Celes and Rosa from FFIV
My favorite Cid: Cid from FFIX (I loved the oglop)
My favorite minigame: Blitzball (I was addicted)
My favorite Limit/Trance/Overkill: Omnislash
My favorite name for Chocobo: Birdy-sama from FF:U
I think that's enough for now. Whatever.
!RAWR!
07-25-2004, 11:44 AM
I'm too lazy to list my reasons, but here are all of the FFs I've played, in order from favorite to least favorite: FFT, FFT:A, FF3j, FF5, FF10j, FF6, FF9, FF4j, FF1, FF7, FF8, FF10-2, FF2j, FF:MQ.
FF6. No other Final Fantasy has had the character development that this game had. Also the limited open endness was very advanced and unheard of at the time. Nothing is funner then Shadow and Realm owning all. Then I have to say it, FF X then FF8. Ten because the hero is not your basic badass. He is clueless, he is new and he has to figure things out from a totally different viewpoint from everyone else. Also the fact that character classes were there, but not in stone really gave it versitility.
FF8 the poor stepchild of the FF series is actually a very good game besides the gawd awful junction system. The characters and multiple storylines was impressive and innovative. Also, Seifer...
Blademage
07-26-2004, 09:02 PM
I'v only played FF7 and XI, but under my standards their great. I liked the matiria lvling to the final lvl since they do destructive damage especialy Buhahut Zero. FF7 had a great storyline and characters.I naerly passed the whole game but my disks started to mess-up and i couldn't play them anymore. As for XI I still have friends in that game. At lvl 25 WAR I'm almost going to recive the paldin quest but there seems to be a problem. On july 2,2004 my acount was deactivated without my consent and I can't play anymore until i reactivate my account. I know wat your saying "Why don't you reactivate your account?" well I have seemed to have lost my credit card and am waiting for my other one to come in before three months pass. So far I was having fun collecting the "Keys to Kazam" but until i get my card im going to post in this forum which reminds me of the game so much.
This is about your favorite Final Fantasy...not how you have horrible luck.
^_+
Blademage
07-26-2004, 09:53 PM
7 of course i think most of it was already decribed in the previous posts
Hunter Lionheart
07-30-2004, 12:18 PM
8's junction system is over-criticised. Sure it was complicated, but it was really well done, and obscenely customisable if you knew what to do with it.
10... just would have been good except for 2 things. Firstly, cut scenes.I love a deep story, but there were too amny cut scenes for too long in 10 and it broke the gameplay up.
Second, random battles. in most FFs they are annoying. In X they are blood boilingly infuriating!
Step step Battle!- 5 minutes later, step step Battle! in some places it's not that bad, but in alot of the areas it is. it drives me up the wall!!!!
Maverick Zero
08-02-2004, 11:28 PM
to hunter lionheart: charmed armors. I think thats what has no encounters. anywho.
I like 10 alot for the sphere grid, 10-2 for the continuation of the story and a newer spin. 7 Because Cloud is a scitzo badass. 3/6 because its a great game. Oh and 5 and Tactics for the job systems. Black Mages in FFT are not strong enough though. :bmage:
Hunter Lionheart
08-04-2004, 07:32 PM
Yeah but by the time you can get them, you're already insane lie me. I've still not seen em and I can go do the last boss if I choose!
Mr_8_bit
08-06-2004, 08:31 PM
Dont know about u but ff8 is the best gunblade who thinks this stuff..... :bmage:
Mr_8_bit
08-06-2004, 08:33 PM
what else is there 2 say
Mr_8_bit
08-06-2004, 08:36 PM
Noting better gunblade who thiks this stuff upundefined :bmage:
CheshireThief
08-07-2004, 12:51 AM
Noting better gunblade who thiks this stuff upundefined :bmage:
Please read the forum rules and refrain from double and triple-posting.
Tourist
08-09-2004, 11:41 PM
I havn't finished FFT yet... ::hangs head in shame::
FF7 is my favorite. IMO it's got the best plot and I'm very fond of the materia system. Man... it was even the first game I got for PSX. When I was 9.
Raerlynn
08-10-2004, 12:07 AM
Let's see...
X, 8, 7, Tactics, Tactics Advanced, X-2, 4, 6, Crystal Chronicles, MQ, 5, 9, 3j, 2j, 1
XI would be great if my mobo would stop smouldering at 120F every friggin time I play it.
Trixbeat
08-15-2004, 11:01 AM
Every FF that ive played, unfortunately thats only IX and half of VII. I have never seen a game put so much depth in everything, including storyline, gameplay, graphics, etc. Needless to say, FFIX affected me more than any other game.
The Argent Lord
08-15-2004, 07:02 PM
I like FFTA.
Lord The Night Knight
08-16-2004, 04:39 AM
I'll have to go with 8. I actually liked the eye candy part. It felt as though every screen was a painting. And the FMVs were incredible. Why couldn't the movie have had that look.
And I know the gameplay is confusing, especially at first. But it just makes the game more of a challenge than the last two. And I love the soundtrack.
Berserker
08-17-2004, 06:49 PM
7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7!!!!!!!! IT hAS 2 bE 7 I SAY!!!!!!!!!
Selphie
08-20-2004, 12:32 AM
My favourite FF game is VIII. I liked it the best. Junction system was fun, and I liked the characters and the game play and what not. *nodnod*
My favourite FF character would be [obviously] Selphie! I thought she was cute and a very cool character >.< My friend got FFVIII before I did and called me to tell me about how Selphie was just like me...o_o and I ended up liking her so woot.... ^^
Cloud Strife
08-31-2004, 01:47 AM
Look at my name, and you'll know.
blackmage 92
09-01-2004, 05:26 PM
FF7 was the best but still touchet to FF8
Excelsior!
09-01-2004, 11:30 PM
I personally like 8 and 1 the best. 1 was just one of the most fun games ive ever played, and i really liked pretty much everything about 8. 7 was my secondy favorite sorta thing. Well, no, cuz tactics was. and I kinda liked 4 cuz Edge was cool... and so was Kain. Well, i know im gonna get flamed for this, but 6 was my least favorite (not counting X-2, the worst game of all time). The only thing i really liked in 6 was the villain, everything else i thought was kinda lame. Story was boring, Side quests suck, and i hated having to get my stupid ass characters back in the WoR and news flash peoples, trying to commit suicide isnt very cool. in fact, its kinda lame. it wasnt beautiful or anything, it was more like a "Ha-ha" moment. anyway, thats just me, and im probably gonna get flamed up the yin-yang for this.
DrmChsr0
09-02-2004, 08:41 AM
7 is awesome. But it isn't my favorite FF game. That belongs to FF Tactics. Mmmm, turn-based combat......
Cloud Strife
09-02-2004, 03:25 PM
I'll definitely give Tactics the recognition it deserves, but FF7 has always been first and foremost for my favorite FF. (My first system was a Genesis, so I never really played FFs 1-3)
starving_artist
09-02-2004, 06:44 PM
Man, I've got to say 6 is my favorite, but Tactics runs second, with 7 running a strong third.
Terex4
09-02-2004, 06:46 PM
Personally I liked 4 best. Golbez is by far my favorite villian. He was far more devious than Sephiroth and played with your head more. Sephiroth whined about his mother and tried to destroy the world with a meteor. Golbez turned your best friend against you, kidnapped your girlfriend and then tried to execute her in a way that you would inevitabley save her from (very important rule of villiany), attacked Cecil's patriotism, and survived a meteor shower focused on him.
The only thing the game was lacking was your choice of party, so tactics and 6 are a close second.
starving_artist
09-02-2004, 06:47 PM
I forgot bout 4, thats a good one too. But I'll stick with 6.
Excelsior!
09-02-2004, 08:12 PM
and lets not forget the super-resemblance to star wars put into both FF2 (the real 2, not 4) and FF4. 4 had the father-son thing exept brother-brother, and 2 was about a rebel force against an empire. And 9 had that Yoda-line at the end of the game, but the yoda line was from Phantom menace, but that movie sucked.
kenshin987
09-02-2004, 09:38 PM
I just wanted to ask for some opinions....
What is everyone's favorite FF game??
I think mine has got to be 7 but I just wanted to know the reasons as to why pople love their favorite title so much :D
Mine's 8. Definitely. Why, you ask? Because squall leonhart is just too cool. :rmage: yes, squall will spell the doom of all
Oefina
09-08-2004, 06:01 PM
I think that Final Fantasy 9 is the best. The music is astounding, the graphics are very good (for an old game) and the game has a very good story line. Plus, Zidane's got a tail. Who other Final Fantasy character has a tail?
DragonDaimyo
09-09-2004, 11:25 PM
All of the FF games I played are at the least fairly good, but most of them were like masterpieces. This is my list for FF games, starting with my favorite:
(these are only the games which I have played, all others are omitted)
VII(2nd Best game of all time IMHO)
X (for Blitzball and no other reason)
FFTA
VI
V
IX
VIII
FFT (great game, but too hard at start, never got past 3rd fight :( )
Well, that's my list.
EvilKujujuwa
09-14-2004, 10:09 AM
I love FF9, it is the best game ever. Vivi rocks!!! Dagger isn't the stupid girl type and AP is the best. It also has a damn good villan. Kuja.
Carnivore
09-18-2004, 12:07 AM
FF9. Great Music, graphics, characters. Just plain awesome.
supermonkey110
09-18-2004, 10:00 PM
my fav is well i have 2 ff7 ff9 hahaha ViVi's the best!!!
Romar
09-24-2004, 08:32 PM
my personal favs are VII, IX, and V they are the best!!! cloud and sephiroth are the best Characters ever!!!
Gorefiend
09-28-2004, 05:15 PM
I really like FF6. Honestly. For it's times, it had great graphics. It had a GREAT storyline, and, for me at least, the dealbreaker was the way they dealt with the characters. You had 16 playable characters, each with a unique storyline, except for two. (Yes, Shadow had one too. He had a WHOLE side-quest for himself, if you were patient.) Never again has Square been so ambitious as far as the character development or plot department. I mean it. Since Final Fantasy 7, all Final Fantasies have been romantic. All of them, that is, except perhaps Tactics (never played it) and XI. Where is the creativity in that? I played FF8 first, and loved it. Great graphics, cool FMVs. Nice battle systems, good plot... Then I got a hold of FF5. Then FF4. Then FF6. And I wasn't dissapointed. Then came FFX. And while it, too, delivered all the usual things I expected, It had one flaw. Unlike the SNES ones, that, at times, surprised me (I did not expect to lose Kain so many times in FF4, for instance) FFX was easy to guess. After Luca, there were just not too many surprises. And THAT surprise is kinda like if in Star Wars we knew that Darth Vader was Luke's dad from A New Hope, not at the end) Until Zanarkand, that is. But that's a LONG road.
The only problem I really saw in FF6 was that, well, there were WAY too many sidequests. While it was nice to see Shadows whole story, having to go around getting all the characters back was... frustrating. And not being able to complete the game perfectly easily, while ok, did, at various times, suck. But I still think that FF6 is one of (if not THE) greatest Final Fantasy game out there yet.
kittygirl501
09-29-2004, 02:11 PM
I really want to get FF Crystal Chronicals for GCN, but I'm broke...
Spider
09-30-2004, 12:44 PM
I think that all of them have something I like about them. I even like X-2, even though my rebellion to play it lasted for a rather long time until I bought it because I was bored and wanted to spend money. Eh. (X-2's storyline is about the only thing I don't hate about it... I hate the skimpy outfits, I hate Yuna, I hate Rikku, I hate Paine, I hate the "mission based" gameplay that supposedly allows you to "choose the way the game goes" even though if you don't do all of them/pick the right path, you get a suck-ass ending and no one wants that. I especially hate what they did to blitzball, which was probably the most awesome part of X. Rawr.)
After some debating with myself, I think I have to choose Tactics. It's about the only one I can think of that didn't have something I totally hated about it (I have a lot of hate issues). I even loved the fact that you could spend an hour in one battle.
IV is a runner-up... Then maybe VI. I really hate having so many characters when I only liked maybe... 6 or 7. Then having to use damn near all of them for the final dungeon when I thought I could squeeze by with my Setzer-Shadow-Terra/Celes-Edgar/Sabin/Locke team for about the entire game.
On the subject of VII fanboys, I got into an arguement with one that seemed to think that FFVII was the first RPG with a dark storyline. When he said that, I couldn't help but laugh in his stupid fanboy face. VII is still pretty high on my favorite games list, but jeebus...
Dark Black
09-30-2004, 12:54 PM
FF8 rules all! It had ninjas riding rocket-powered motorbikes! ROCKET-POWERED MOTORBIKES!
But the battle system did suck. Guess I only liked it for the story (which would make it more film than game in my opinion. Long-ass film at that).
I never liked it at first, because FF7 was the first (and only) FF I'd played at that point and in true n00bish style I compared everything in FF8 with 7 (read - insulted everything in FF8 for not being FF7). I quit near the end, then picked it up again half a year later and fell in love. I got all the cards, maxed my level, and made Ultima (or Omega, or whatever the hell it's name was) my bitch. And that aint easy to do. I won't repeat things other people have said about the game, but I'll just add that the final CD, even though not done intentionally, made me feel really sad. Just wandering around the world map, looking at all the places under Ultimecia's spell, really put a whole new spin on things. It made you care about her whacked out plans! And about how she was really Rinoa!
FF7 was good, but I don't see the appeal of Sephiroth. He was just a stereotyped black-clad bad-guy with a sweet sword. Kuja was far superior, even if he (she?) did have gender issues, and I liked the whole "if I can't live, no-one can!" thing. He (she?)reminds me of myself... And when I say that, I don't mean I look like a girl...
Oh, and the Aeris death sucked. If you kill someone in a game, ESPECIALLY one that doesn't look realistic, you have to make these things more obvious. Show some blood, or dismemberment or SOMETHING! I mean, she was still smiling with a 10-fuggin-foot long blade sticking through her! I thought she was just injured or something, not dead, and didn't catch on until I saw her sinking to the bottom of the ocean (and it still took me a while to realize even then, if only because I was wondering why the hell ANYBODY would drop the person they supposedly love into an ocean, dead or otherwise) by which time any potential shock had worn off.
Take a leaf from Run Like Hell's book (actually, don't, that game was god awful), Square. They had the most disturbing death scene ever. Story - stupid guy and some girl go to mine... space... or something, come back to space station, lots of corpses. Big monster lumbers up. Guy and girl scream a bit. They way the death works is great though. You think they'll run (like in every other game... dumbasses...) but NOOOO! The monster jumps down, picks up girl, bites head off, tosses limp body aside. I freaked out. I assumed (since she was supposed to be sexy, in a badly animated, stupidly obvious way) that she was a main character. It's not nice when something as unexpectantly violent as that happens, not nice at all...
So there! That's what Square should have done! Made Sephiroth bite Aeris' head off! (Man, I'd pay good money to see that...)
At one time this was a thread about favourite FF things, before I started ranting about some pointless crap I've already forgotten. I'll let you get back to that now...
EDIT - PS. Oh, and I hate you Square, for not releasing Tactics in Europe. And Squall sucks. I want to throw acid in his pretty face, and burn it goooood...
Cloud Strife
09-30-2004, 01:44 PM
My favorite is DEFINITELY FF7, though I must admit that FF8 isn't very far behind.
Kenryoku_Maxis
09-30-2004, 03:30 PM
FFVIII didn't have Ninja's riding Rocket-Powered Motor bikes. They were SeeD members from Balamb guarden, all used Swords and guns, and in no way resembled or acted like Ninjas.....
And I think FFVIII has one of the most unique, original and engadging battle systems in an RPG. I don't know why people keep saying it sucks, unless you don't like collectiong things. But since in RPGs I like collecting items, the Magic Collection system was fun for me.
And it let me customize my characters abilities to my personal tastes. Why the hell wouldn't I wanna do that?!
Dark Black
09-30-2004, 04:02 PM
They weren't SeeD members (if I recall correctly, the SeeD from Galabadia garden refused to follow Edea's wishes. You meet some of them hiding out in Galabadia garden). They were Galabadian ninjas attacking Balamb! How else do you explain their kickass masks and cool swords and ROCKET-POWERED MOTORBIKES!?!?!
EDIT - Oh, and the junction system had one major flaw - sitting around for stupidly, mindnumbingly, stupiricically amounts of time drawing magic out of enemies while they stand their hitting you in the face. That, and the battles were far too easy, except Ultima (or Omega or whatever, I haven't played it in a year...) which was insanely difficult.
Besides that though, it DID have an abilities system better than FF9, on top of the already post-drawing spiffy junction system. That makes it OK I guess...
Kenryoku_Maxis
09-30-2004, 04:43 PM
Oh, sorry, I forgot. They weren't SeeD members. They were actually Galbadia Soldiers. You know, those guys from the City Edea took over and who wear uniforms Laguna wore when you first did his missions. Yeah, those guys were the guys on the bikes (only special units of them obviously).
I'm just saying I enjoyed the magic draw system and, I guess because I don't mind working for my characters stats, I felt the drawing of magic was just part of the flow of the game and not a 'chore'. I'd rather spend a few hours drawing magic from enemies than do the SAME spells a million times to level my characters to 99. In basically any other FF game, after you get to about level 50 you can 1) beat the game 2) obtain the best equipment and 3) have the ability to have all the best spells. So going from level 50-100 becomes...yup, just a chore. You find the best equipment and best spells and then spend countless dragging hours doing the same spells and physical attacks to an ungodly amount of creatures to get to lvl 99.
However, for me in FFVIII, when I reached the end pf the game, my main characters were already lvl 90-92 and had all the magic fully stocked (aside from a few Curagas, Auras and Ultimas). Took very little time to level to 99, get the rest of the best equipment (which I found very well placed through the game to never make you play with one weapon for 5more than 30 hours straight) and preceeded to beat Ultamecia (which is also my favorite end boss for a FF game).
I found FFVIII to have an excellent 'pace' for a game, and attribute much of it to the 'broken' or 'boring' battle system and its 'monotonous' drawing system (which allows you to play the game at whatever pace you wish I may add).
But that's just me...
Next thing you know, another FFVIII debates gonna start...
I apologize ahead of time.
Dark Black
10-01-2004, 03:18 PM
Just a couple of points...
1. Not full curagas by end of game? You can have full curagas for all 3 characters before even leaving for Timber. Tents can be changed to curagas. Unless you mean you just used up all your curagas... which would make more sense...
2. How was leveling up in FF8 any easier than other games? You still could defeat the entire game at level 50 (at level 1 is possible) but HAD to level up to level 100 if you wanted to do everything (because Ultima (or Omega, or whatever) is always at level 100, regardless of level). And you could have almost everything at level 1 in FF8. How is that *not* broken?
3. Look, it's a simple definiton. Soldiers suck. Ninjas don't. Soldiers run up to the good guys in large groups and die by the bucket-load. Ninjas do cool things like ride ROCKET-POWERED MOTORBIKES BETWEEN FLYING CITIES AND UP WALLS! And then they die by the bucket-load too...
Kenryoku_Maxis
10-01-2004, 07:03 PM
Just a couple of points...
1. Not full curagas by end of game? You can have full curagas for all 3 characters before even leaving for Timber. Tents can be changed to curagas. Unless you mean you just used up all your curagas... which would make more sense...
2. How was leveling up in FF8 any easier than other games? You still could defeat the entire game at level 50 (at level 1 is possible) but HAD to level up to level 100 if you wanted to do everything (because Ultima (or Omega, or whatever) is always at level 100, regardless of level). And you could have almost everything at level 1 in FF8. How is that *not* broken?
3. Look, it's a simple definiton. Soldiers suck. Ninjas don't. Soldiers run up to the good guys in large groups and die by the bucket-load. Ninjas do cool things like ride ROCKET-POWERED MOTORBIKES BETWEEN FLYING CITIES AND UP WALLS! And then they die by the bucket-load too...
1) I didn't have full Curagas cuz I was using them... Same with Auras and Ultimas.
2) I was saying FFVIII had a good pace for me and since I did most everything when I played it, when I got to the end of the game I was 92. This is vs FFVI or FFVII or FFX where I was able to get every item in the game or be at the strongest I needed to be by level 50-60. I could also beat FFVIII, but if I was to go for the other GFs, I wouldn't have even been able to stay at level 50. I gained about 15 levels just going for the Eden GF and another 5-10 going for Odin. See...I just think FFVIII had a good pace and didn't make me do endless and monotonous leveling to get to 99 (r in the case of FFVIII, lvl 100).
3) Ninja's are just some obsession people have, especially by those on the internet. People just attribute anything in a game movie or otherwise that even lightly resemble a person who conseals their face, attack people or wear black or something as being a 'ninja' or need to joke and call them that to make them even more of a reason to make them cool. Hell, I've even heard people call characters like Solid Sake 'Ninjas'.....
If you want to see Ninjas, go play Zelda: Ocarina of Time or Dead or Alive.
They're Galbadia soldiers.
Silver Wolf
10-02-2004, 09:32 AM
I would have to say FFX is my favorite FF game. It has far more twists than FFVII, more drama than FFVIII, better storyline than FFIX. Far more char development that any of them as well. And the Aeon system is far superior to other FF games.
I also must say, I am a big fan of the spheregrid. You can create the ultimate Red Mage..give Yuna black magic, and Lulu white magic...I gave Tidus the 'aga' spells, pluss Ultima and Flare, and he does quite well. All in all, the only thing i hated about FFX was the battle system. I really missed the ATB.
Dark Black
10-02-2004, 12:44 PM
There were ninjas in Z-OT?
Oh, and 10 didn't feel like a final fantasy. The music was awful and the characters were annoying stereotypes (whereas the other games had good, not-so-annoying stereotypes).
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