Clearly there is no god.

[Roy_D_Mylote]

Because a kind and loving sovreign would never let shit like this happen.

http://www.marvel.com/comics/onsale/covers/0806/EXILES085_COVER.jpg

What have they done to my Exiles?

Know what they're calling this arc? Countdown to Infinte Wolverines. God.

[Burkion]

Firebombing time.

[Roy_D_Mylote]

Yes. Yes it is.

[Art of Hilt]

Is... is that a CIRCUS outfit?
Oh my.

[Melfice]

... I'm glad I've never seen clownboy Logan in the main comics before. DAMN!
Seriously, what's up with this fanservice?

I mean, if they blatantly show in the comics that this is joke, with lame jokes and puns and such, I can live with it. You know, 'cause Logan is always everywhere at the same time saving the day, while also getting a fatal wound. Except it's not fatal, 'cause he has god-mode on...
If they're serious serious though...

[Roy_D_Mylote]

Oh they're serious. They already have the cover for the second issue of this arc up.

http://www.marvel.com/comics/onsale/covers/0906/EXILES086_COVER.jpg

What gets me is they made Proteus/Morph a Wolverine too. "Yeah, let's squeeze one more Wolverine in there."

[DFM]

I see General Grievous.

[Mirai Gen]

Y'know, just cause he's a grizzled badass doesn't mean he needs to be the only hero/villain for an entire comic series.

You've got more than enough grizzled badasses to cover that.

[Krylo]

I see five female wolverines, but no General Grievous.

[Roy_D_Mylote]

I think he means, if you look at the very edge of the right side and go down, the first character on the edge you can see the head of, looks sort of like General Grievous.

[Krylo]

Oh hey, it IS General Grievous!

Man, this is the best comic cover ever. It's like Where's Waldo + Hating Wolverine all at once.

[Burkion]

Only one thing to do!

*Calls in the Hulk* Yeah, buddy, we need you to rip some more metal men in half again...

[Fifthfiend]

Because a kind and loving sovreign would never let shit like this happen.

http://www.marvel.com/comics/onsale/covers/0806/EXILES085_COVER.jpg

What have they done to my Exiles?

Know what they're calling this arc? Countdown to Infinte Wolverines. God.

Oh come on, it's a joke!

I mean come on, this is Bedard saying hey kids, I think Wolverine's just as fuckin' stupid as you do!

With a big slice of Bedard saying hey Chris Claremont, fuck you!

I mean what? What's not to love about that?

[dragonsword06]

...i dont see the general...

and WHY is there a zombie wolverine on the first cover...

[Burkion]

Let's fucking hope so Fifth.

Let's fucking hope so.

If not, then I'm afraid that I'll have to replace Marvel Comics with Power Ranger Comics.

[DFM]

If Wolverine Grievous has any speaking lines in the comic he had better cough after each and every one of them or I'm demanding my money back.

And there'd better be at least one romance within the group with all those female Wolverines running around. Is that one there a little girl? If she doesn't beat up fat joe-sixpack Wolverine at least once I'm demanding my money back.

[Mac]

that is lame. How do you make an overrated character even more hated? Make a million of him.

[Burkion]

Am I the only one who sees Obi-Logan?

[DFM]

Am I the only one who sees Obi-Logan?

Not anymore!

[Krylo]

No. Obi-Logan is on the left-hand side... and he should totally fight with Logan Grievous.

[Burkion]

It'd be a crime if he didn't.

[Roy_D_Mylote]

I hope fifthfiend is right. Because otherwise, I may cry a lot. And have to drop Exiles from my current comics.

But really, it does seem like it would be a joke. I'll have to wait and read the issues, of course.

[Fifthfiend]

Look, I'm just saying the man who had a power-mad Superman crack open goddamn Holocaust and then do him like a drug deserves a little benefit of the doubt.

... Which isn't to say that arc with Proteus didn't go on two issues longer and end about two degrees dumber than it should have, but hey, we all make mistakes.

[Roy_D_Mylote]

The very reason I have no faith in the writer is because of the Proteus arc. And more specifically, the fact that while keeping Morph, the best character in Marvel save Iceman and Sentry, they fucking left Proteus in Morph's fucking body, goddammit.

[Archbio]

Having Holocaust go down like a punk is an artistic crime!

"No gods, no masters!"

[Roy_D_Mylote]

Holocaust is a suckmuppet who deserved to die.

[Archbio]

Superman rip-offs (like the original character wasn't worn out already) are suckmuppets.

Holocaust wasn't.

Nuh-huh.

[Roy_D_Mylote]

I didn't like Hyperion either, okay, but I didn't like Holocaust also. First off, he has a stupid name, and that isn't considering the actual real-life Holocaust, just taking the meaning of the word. It's a dumb name. It's a name that means "destruction of a large mass of people." Destruction Of A Large Mass Of People deserved to die. He's an energy being contained in a shell, like Chamber, who was first and cooler. Destruction Of A Large Mass Of People was a waste of character-ness.

EDIT: But we are off topic. We should instead be discussing how Marvel has decided that they hate money and want to piss off half their readers and give the others the ultimate fanservice.

[Archbio]

I'm pretty sure that the name also referred to this definition of the word, which makes a lot more (non-lame) sense:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_%28sacrifice%29

Holocaust had a great character design. So nuh-huh again.

Also, "an energy being contained in a shell" seems like a very broad description and would apply to many characters.

[Roy_D_Mylote]

Well, that's a good point, but I'm too entrenched in the argument now to admit you're right just because of the silly ol' facts, so I'll say this: Energy being thing really only applies directly to Chamber and Holocaust, that I can think of, because Chamber's power is inside of him and literally spills out of him, so he wears bandages to keep the energy in, and I asume the bandages are made of Invinci-steel, or something, but anyway, and Holocaust is energy stuck in a can. They both have to contain themselves or they'll release the energy and kill lotsa stuff, but Holocaust probably wouldn't give a damn. Now.

Also, Holocaust got killed by Hyperion. That alone is worth indicating that Holocaust is a suckmuppet, what with the being killed by a suckey rip-off.

[Archbio]

Chamber is called Jonothon.

There.

Also I'm pretty sure that Chamber's shell is more of a psychic construct, as opposed to Holocaust's hi-tech thingamajig

[Roy_D_Mylote]

What does his name have to do with it?

Sure, it might be now, but it started out as his actual body. I think.

[Archbio]

Up yours, that's what!

I just really think it's an ugly spelling (compared to Jonathan), but I might also be joking to a certain degree.

At the present Chamber is pretty much all shell and no energy, which goes well with Marvel's policy of not making any freaking sense.

[Death by Stabbing]

This is wow...just wow...I like Wolverine I really do...I'll admit he is over done sometimes but this is rediculous...Wolverine is cool but not like this...shit like this just shouldn't happen...I hope that comic never sees the light of day...oh and Holocaust did suck...a lot...he might have been better in another comic or something but as an Exile heck no at all...he just wasn't a good guy...oh well he's dead...
DBS

[Roy_D_Mylote]

You like Wolverine. That's funny. Why?

[Burkion]

Dude, the guy doesn't like GARGOYLES.

He's a bastard who shouldn't be noticed.

[Roy_D_Mylote]

GASP AND SHOCK! How can you not like Gargoyles? Gargoyles was one of the best cartoons ever! Ancient beings of great strength lost to time, resurfacing to fight the Illuminati? How is that a bad show?

[Fifthfiend]

GASP AND SHOCK! How can you not like Gargoyles? Gargoyles was one of the best cartoons ever! Ancient beings of great strength lost to time, resurfacing to fight the Illuminati? How is that a bad show?

By the by, but this should be (http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?t=14662) right up your alley.

[Burkion]

Also, that alone should prove that, yes, there is a God.

And HIS NAME BE AWESOME THE MIGHTY!

[Viktor Von Russia]

Is... is that a CIRCUS outfit?
Oh my.
I think that's Wolverine from Origin. He's dressed all aristocraty or something.

The whole concept of this monstrosity is mind-boggling. How would a fight between so many Wolverines go, anyway? They would all just impale each other on their own claws only to heal and start all over. Anyone else thing that would make for an exciting time?

[Roy_D_Mylote]

They aren't fighting each other. No, the extermination of all of them would be far too much to hope for. They're gonna fight the Exiles.

And at the risk of sounding stereotypical, Wolvie from Origins looks like a sissy.

[Mac]

"Who ever wins...Comic Fans Lose"

Sorry, just had to say it =P.

But I have to wonder why in Hell Marvel would decide to FUBAR the X-Series. Maybe they just hate their fans.

[Roy_D_Mylote]

"So. We're just recovering from that big crash. You guys remember that crash?"

"Yes sir."

"Anyone have any ideas how to make our company better?"

"Ooh, I've got one!"

"What?"

"What we do is, we stick Wolverine on every X-Team, and the Avengers."

"We already did that."

"Oh. Right. So...any books without Wolverine?"

"Uh..."

"I don't think so..."

"Oh yeah! Exiles!"

"Doesn't Exiles have that Mimic guy, with Wolverine's powers?"

"He died."

"Oh."

"So let's stick Wolverine in there! The fans'll love it!"

"Better idea! Let's take every single goddamn idea we can think of, turn it into a Wolverine, and slap it in there! Star Wars, females, little girls, Canada, ninja, mating Wolvie with Heather Hudson, mating Wolvie with Nick Fury, gay people, fat people, hicks, what the hell ever."

[gurusloth]

I hope that this arc is played for humor/satire and not as a huge Wolverine-is-kewl-fest. That being said, I thought some of those versions of Wolvie in that second pic were kinda cool looking, like looking at a montage of "What If" costumes. What if Wolvie was a lumberjack? What if he was Captain Canada (like Captain America, but from Canada)? What if he was a little girl in a pink dress....okay, wait, that one was just dumb.

[Kroze Gamegod]

What if he was a little girl in a pink dress....okay, wait, that one was just dumb.

No, no...
That would actually make me want to buy that comic just so I may wave it around in all the Wolverene fans faces....
I endorse this idea 100%...

[Mirai Gen]

Yeah, the idea was stupid - even for comedy purposes - by the time I saw General Wolverine, Obi-Wolv, Loganjack, and Circus Sissy Wolverine.

[Premonitions]

I see a Deadpoolverine! It's gotta be a joke! I just know they're gonna make this a joke now! Imagine Deadpoolverine talking about how much this idea sucks every panel he's in! In yellow boxes! wooo!

[Roy_D_Mylote]

I have always hated Deadpool. He sucks. I hate him. I hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate him a lot. Stupid character. He's too tied to Wolvie for my taste.

[Melfice]

Maybe, but at least he's original.

Well... okay. Funny, at least.

[Chipper173]

Maybe, but at least he's original.

Well... okay. Funny, at least.
And he's funny about how he's not original.

Goddamn, but I love Deadpool.
and WHY is there a zombie wolverine on the first cover...
Marvel Zombies Wolverine.

Maybe this won't completely suck.

[Nikose Tyris]

...maybe this will be a tie in to the old "Crisis on the infinite earths"? I was showing my friend Tim this stuff, a comic book nerd friend of mine, and he thought it up upon seeing the picture. Crisis of the infinite earths was a DC comic a while back, like in '85 or '86.

....I'm totally not a comic book nerd.

[Mad Jack the Pirate]

Crisis of the infinite earths was a DC comic a while back, like in '85 or '86.


oh yeah, and the sky is blue.

[Nikose Tyris]

oh yeah, and the sky is blue.
...was that really necessary?

[Fifthfiend]

...was that really necessary?

Yes.

Yes it was.

[gurusloth]

Also, Nikose, I don't see why a Marvel comic book would ever try to tie into a DC event.

[Fifthfiend]

Also, Nikose, I don't see why a Marvel comic book would ever try to tie into a DC event.

Neither can I, but hey, it's not like they've let that stop them (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amalgam_Comics) before.

[greed]

Man I want that Lobo the Duck comic.

[gurusloth]

Well, technically the Amalgam event was a joint effort by Marvel and DC together. Crisis on Infinite Earths was DC alone, so no Marvel book would ever be related to those events. It'd be like Batman being pulled into the next Secret Wars. Furthermore, has any comic ever referenced the events that happened in the Amalgam storyline since it came out? I doubt it.

[Mauve Mage]

Hehehe. The Wolverine that everyone has labeled as "Clowny" or "Circusish" looks more "Shakespearean Actor" to me.

"But soft! What light from yonder window breaks?
It is the East, and Jean is the sun!
She hath been brought back to life yet again!
How this happens, we have no idea,
But verily, it hath worked in two different X-Men Films,
So I really am not Surprised."

[Viktor Von Russia]

oh yeah, and the sky is blue.
Yes.

Yes it was.
Isn't that a little harsh? He did imply that he didn't really know much about comics.

But anyway. Maybe this is Marvel's attempt at a Crisis type situation? They saw that DC's Crisis stuff started selling well and thought, "Hey, let's release something that fucks with the fabric of our continuity and see how that goes. And to ensure its success, let's make it all about Wolverine!" At least, that's my theory on why they decided to create this nonsense.

Also: There's something appealing to me about the image of Wolverine in a puffy shirt reciting Shakespeare whilst stabbing people.

Edit: Now that I remember what they decided to call this arc, it's actually pretty damn obvious what Marvel was thinking.

[Fifthfiend]

I'll give you harsh, you son of a bitch!

FUCKING BANNED Nah, forget it, it's getting late.

But yeah, this bit

....I'm totally not a comic book nerd.

Kinda earned Nik a little bit of a rip.

Oh! Also, I'm kind of a dick.

Anyway, page limit, so, closing.