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Roy_D_Mylote
05-27-2006, 10:35 PM
In Marvel Comics, when mutants have children who in turn have mutant powers, should those children really be considered mutants? I argue no. In fact, they should be considered mutants if they don't have powers. Because the DNA they were provided with contains the mutant information, those that are powered are "normal".
Now, I'm very stupid, so I may be wrong here.
Althane
05-27-2006, 10:49 PM
*blinks*
But, they still belong to the Homo Superior subsection, nicknamed "Mutants", so yes, they are mutants. They're not mutants when compared only with thei Homo Superiors, but they are when compared to the full genetic pool of Homo S's.
Fifthfiend
05-28-2006, 12:00 AM
Well any time two mutants with powers have a kid with powers, the kid turns out to be so fuckin' stupidly powerful that he ends up either getting killed to stop him from destroying all of reality or shipped into the future to stop him from destroying his own brain. So it doesn't really matter what you call 'em, cause what you're gonna end up calling 'em is "that guy we had to kill to keep him from destroying all reality / kid we had to ship off to the future to keep him from destroying his own brain."
As regards the technical aspects of the question at hand, the carriage of the mutated chromosomes that give Homo Superior their unique abilities into their offspring does not change that those chromosomes are a mutation of chromosomes originating in the Homo Sapiens species, therefore it is still probably more or less appropriate to refer to said offspring as 'mutants', at least, as appropriate as it would be considered to apply that term to their parents. In any case, the usage can probably be considered acceptable as a colloqualized term meaning simply 'person with non-human powers'.
Roy_D_Mylote
05-28-2006, 03:15 PM
Well any time two mutants with powers have a kid with powers, the kid turns out to be so fuckin' stupidly powerful that he ends up either getting killed to stop him from destroying all of reality or shipped into the future to stop him from destroying his own brain. So it doesn't really matter what you call 'em, cause what you're gonna end up calling 'em is "that guy we had to kill to keep him from destroying all reality / kid we had to ship off to the future to keep him from destroying his own brain."
As regards the technical aspects of the question at hand, the carriage of the mutated chromosomes that give Homo Superior their unique abilities into their offspring does not change that those chromosomes are a mutation of chromosomes originating in the Homo Sapiens species, therefore it is still probably more or less appropriate to refer to said offspring as 'mutants', at least, as appropriate as it would be considered to apply that term to their parents. In any case, the usage can probably be considered acceptable as a colloqualized term meaning simply 'person with non-human powers'.
Quicksilver had a kid with Crystal and that kid isn't superpowerful. She can see emotions.
Fifthfiend
05-28-2006, 03:29 PM
Quicksilver had a kid with Crystal and that kid isn't superpowerful. She can see emotions.
Yeah, but come on, nobody cares about Quicksilver.
And then they got de-mutanted anyway. So now really nobody cares about Quicksilver.
And anyway that wasn't the kid of two mutants, that was the kid of a mutant and an Inhuman.
And no the Inhumans don't count as mutants. And I don't care what you, or Marvel's editorial board, have to say about it.
Roy_D_Mylote
05-28-2006, 09:12 PM
You're a very angry, bitter, cruel little person, no?
Fifthfiend
05-28-2006, 09:36 PM
Actually, I'm pretty husky.
PraetorZorak
05-29-2006, 05:57 AM
Speaking of current Marvel events, anyone else here following Civil War?
Roy_D_Mylote
05-29-2006, 09:50 AM
Speaking of current Marvel events, anyone else here following Civil War?
I would like to be, but after Decimation/House of Suck I kinda lost faith in Marvel, even more so after Morph from Exiles was possesed by Proteus.
FunkyBlackMage
05-30-2006, 07:00 AM
You should really read Civil War. Unlike House of M, it wasn't made to compete with Infinite Crisis.
Althane
06-03-2006, 11:05 PM
Am I crazy, or am I the only one that liked House of M? I mean, it wasn't hte best storyline ever, but it was actually pretty good. Poor Quicksilver though.
And they said in the movies (which isn't official cannon, I believe) that the X-gene comes from the father.
And if I recall, Angle and that weird Beak guy had children (ick!), which were all mutants of pretty low power, and were Decimated with most of mutant kind, except for one...
Roy_D_Mylote
06-04-2006, 12:38 AM
They could have named House of M "Screw the New Mutants and Minor Characters" and have been perfectly accurate. Did any of the interesting characters lose their powers? No. What woulda been cooooool, is if Rogue lost her powers and they could have done a whole thing about how that affected her...
Invisible Queen
06-04-2006, 04:16 PM
Franklin Richards was the first kid in the marvel universe to be born from two superhuman parents, I believe. He represents the idea that two mutations crossing genes produces über-mutants with unstable, world-leveling power. Any later deviations from this idea is probably the result of writers not wanting plot devices walking around everywhere.
So I'd say the children of mutants are mutants from the mutant gene pool and far more by homo sapiens standards. Mutants to the power of two if you will.
Roy_D_Mylote
06-04-2006, 04:22 PM
Now that's a good explanation.
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