Sequels, Prequels, Remakes, OH MY! [Archive]

Kenryoku_Maxis

05-24-2006, 07:44 PM

Alright NP. With all the new systems well on their way and the announcements of stuff like third party supprt for Wii and the success of both the DS and PSP, it seems to me that we have an even greater chance to see a lot of new series come about. But although those are fine and dandy, for this new gen of gaming, we gotta admit that most of us are really looking for the series we already know.

So what are you looking forward to specifically? What are you hoping will be made on the new system. Feel free to speculate or throw all your theories out there as we've seen very little from the 3rd parties as of late. We're getting a lot of information for new series and 1st party developments, but third parties seem to be holding a lot of their sequel and remake ideas back until later something happens (probably to see which console becomes the next PS2).

So what are your hopes, dreams and thoughts of what might come out? Let 'em shoot.

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One of mine to star off is I'm thinking they're going to make another Kid Icarus. With all the new moves they're giving him, the new look and the fact that he's in Smash Bros, it just seems logical. But also there's just the fact that Smash Bros seems to have been a good forwarning system for Nintendo. In the original game you had Captain Falcon as a major character, which to some might seem totally random. But then we saw a lot of F-Zero games come out, many trying to show C. Falcon to be like he is in Smash Bros. Then in Melee, both Marth and Roy were introduced, but without a FE game ever being released in America. But shortly afterwards, we got a FE game on the GBA. Perhaps Pit will follow this trend.

...or I could be reading too much into it as Ice Climbers didn't come back, heh.

MuMu

05-24-2006, 08:32 PM

I didn't buy a GC so the last Nintendo game I played that made me really want a sequel was Ocarina Of Time. But i'm happy with a Remake too...or both >_> .

For Sony...A sequel of Shadow Of Collossus showing The story of Dormin, The Ancient Sword and the creation of the Colossi. I Think He was once a human that wanted power but got a little far for getting it...The Ancient Sword might be his sword ...but i'm sure Sony will think of something...

Kenryoku_Maxis

05-24-2006, 08:40 PM

I didn't buy a GC so the last Nintendo game I played that made me really want a sequel was Ocarina Of Time. But i'm happy with a Remake too...or both >_> .

Actually, it had a semi-sequel, with Young Link in Majora's Mask.

greed

05-24-2006, 08:41 PM

Heh good idea a Shadow of the Colossus sequel would be great(Rise of the Colossus or something), me I'm hoping for a Kid Icarus 2 for the Wii, oh and a new 2d Metroid in the vein of Super Metroid, and set after Fusion.

EVILNess

05-24-2006, 08:47 PM

Currently, there are several remakes and sequals that I am looking forward too, and whether they come out will vastly influence what handheld I am gonna buy.

PSP:
Breath of Fire 3
Suikoden 1+2
Valkyrie Profile: Lenneth
(If these 3 games all come out for the PSP in America, then I might break down and buy a PSP regardless of whats on the DS...)

Nintendo DS:
Final Fantasy III
Children of Mana
Harvest Moon DS
Age of Empires: Age of Kings (Already Released)
Advance Wars (Already Released)
Phoenix Wright (Already Released)
Phoenix Wright 2

At the moment Im leaning more towards the DS, cause of its more solid game library, but as I said before, If all three of those games are released, then I dont' think my pocket book can take it...

As for stuff I'd like to see come back? A new Breath of Fire game would Rock, maybe set before the first game, and new Megaman Legends Game would own so hardcore.

Basically, I want Capcom to get off its fat ass and make good games again.

MuMu

05-24-2006, 08:59 PM

Hey, Is Rare still working? If so, won't they make the dammed sequel to Conker: Bad Fur Day never!? That is one of the games that needs a sequel SO badly...

Kenryoku_Maxis

05-24-2006, 09:03 PM

Currently, there are several remakes and sequals that I am looking forward too, and whether they come out will vastly influence what handheld I am gonna buy.

PSP:
Suikoden 1+2

Only for Japan. Checked, checked and triple-checked by me and many others who were looking into this (us Suikoden obsessed peeps). It also won't be compadable for save game swapping between itself and the Japanese PS2 version of Suikoden 3. Basically, its a direct port with not much attention going towards it...

Nintendo DS:
Final Fantasy III
Children of Mana
Harvest Moon DS
Age of Empires: Age of Kings (Already Released)
Advance Wars (Already Released)
Phoenix Wright (Already Released)
Phoenix Wright 2

Yup, they're all comin'.

At the moment Im leaning more towards the DS, cause of its more solid game library, but as I said before, If all three of those games are released, then I dont' think my pocket book can take it...

Well, if you're wanting more Japanese games than American, the Japanese developers are definitely favoring the DS with their new series and their what some would call 'fun' games. The PSP seems to be turning more into the PS1 Port and dumbed down 3D machine. And it seems most Western developers aren't even paying attention to the handheld market atm. A few, but not many. I think I know more Microsoft games being ported or made for PSP and DS than any other company. That's scary.

Robert Paulson

05-24-2006, 09:07 PM

new Megaman Legends Game would own so hardcore. Basically, I want Capcom to get off its fat ass and make good games again.

You and me both. I so desperately want there to be at least one more MegaMan Legends game. I need my wacky-tacky Servbots!

Also, I'm looking forward to Starcraft 2. Not Starcraft Ghost. Not a Starcraft MMORPG. I'm talking about a true real-time strategy continuation of the original Starcraft. Are you listening, Blizzard?

Also, anyone here ever played Metal Arms: Glitch in the System? That was the best action-shooter I ever played on my XBOX. (I like Metal Arms a hell of a lot more than Halo and Halo 2. That's right. I said it.) They have to make another Metal Arms. They just have to.

But alas, I realize that the prospect of MegaMan Legends 3, Starcraft 2, and Metal Arms 2 is nothing more than a pipe dream of mine. Oh, what a cruel world I live in.

Kenryoku_Maxis

05-24-2006, 09:13 PM

Also, I'm looking forward to Starcraft 2. Not Starcraft Ghost. Not a Starcraft MMORPG. I'm talking about a true real-time strategy continuation of the original Starcraft. Are you listening, Blizzard?

StarCraft 2 will be made. The problem is, one of the hardest things to do for a gaming company is to make a sequel for one of the most popular games of all time. This I think is what shows the difference between the good companies and the best. Like it or not, Nintendo has made sequels time and time again that live up to the hype. Maybe not Mario Sunshine, but I've been happy with nearly all the rest.

But it can just as easily backfire. Square threw millions into FF8 with tons of marketing and fandom beyond anything in America before it (except maybe Mario 3). But because of such high hopes, it has a huge angry fanboy backlash against it for not being what people want. It sold well, but it didn't live up to a lot of people's hype. That's what could VERY easily happen to StarCraft. It happened with WarCraftIII to a lot of people. WoW changed it and got a lot of new fans into the WarCraft series, but it doesn't change that WCIII lost hype after its release. Blizzard is really trying to make sure that doesn't happen. And if it takes them 10 years to do it (StarCraft is 8 years old), then so be it!

Lockeownzj00

05-24-2006, 11:52 PM

new Megaman Legends Game would own so hardcore. Basically, I want Capcom to get off its fat ass and make good games again.

Mayhaps you would be more than satisfied with Steambot Chronicles? I heard over on TGQ (http://www.gamersquarter.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=953&sid=2c0f4d1bd603b552dba1a930e17c1041) that it was really quite good, and a spiritual successor to those games. Quote,

Our resident Trotmobile expert (Mr. Toups) infoms me that it is probably the closest we will ever see to another Megaman Legends game.

Fifthfiend

05-24-2006, 11:57 PM

Also, I'm looking forward to Starcraft 2. Not Starcraft Ghost. Not a Starcraft MMORPG. I'm talking about a true real-time strategy continuation of the original Starcraft. Are you listening, Blizzard?.

But seriously at this point I would honestly just take goddamn Worlds of Starcraft.

Just come on already and give me my goddamn Starcraft.

I've been waiting to throw that Kerrigan bitch a beating for like eight fucking years.

Kenryoku_Maxis

05-25-2006, 12:07 AM

But seriously at this point I would honestly just take goddamn Worlds of Starcraft.

Just come on already and give me my goddamn Starcraft.

I've been waiting to throw that Kerrigan bitch a beating for like eight fucking years.

People all think that because they made World of Warcraft, that a WoS would work. And I ask, how the heck do you do it? The terrans are all in a military group, the Zerg have no indavidual will and the Protoss all group together to defend Aiur. Basically, the only way they could make it an MMORPG is if it was an action group based one. Because you just becoming a 'Marine' and running around a planet killing monsters just doesn't work with the universe of StarCraft. It would have to be more like 100 of you and your friends get online and walk around giant landscapes and defend from computer controlled Zerg Rushes.

...might as well just make it what it is, a Massivly Multiplayer FPS with StarCraft characters. And might as well call it what it is. Starship Troopers Online.

Fifthfiend

05-25-2006, 12:12 AM

People all think that because they made World of Warcraft, that a WoS would work. And I ask, how the heck do you do it?

You tell me I can run around space as a Templar of the Protoss Armada and I pay you whatever the fuck you tell me to make it happen, that's how you do it.

It really isn't too much more complicated than that.

You want to know how you do the Zerg? "Hey everyone, remember how there's no individual free will amongst the Zerg? Well shit, now there is! Now pay us some fuckin' money, you sluts!" That's how you do the Zerg.

Starship Troopers

I don't think I have to stand for that kind of language.

EVILNess

05-25-2006, 01:36 AM

Here's hoping that Blizzard's next non-WoW game doesn't take another 8 years. But honestly, Blizzard struck gold. They ain't gotta do shit. (And probably never will again.)

You want to know how you do the Zerg? "Hey everyone, remember how there's no individual free will amongst the Zerg? Well shit, now there is! Now pay us some fuckin' money, you sluts!" That's how you do the Zerg.

Blizzard is no stranger to that tactic (http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/burningcrusade/townhall/draenei.html)...

I still don't get how the fuck an alien race crash lands on a Azeroth and they become the new alliance race. It would be more believable to me (and way cooler) if the new alliance race was the Protoss... I thought that the Zerg... I mean Silithid were bad.

All Blizzard is doing is ripping off their own shit!

All I can hope for is that the "undisclosed Beta spots" that Blizzard gave away as prizes a few months back were not for The Burning Crusade...

And for the record, I loved Warcraft 3.

Krylo

05-25-2006, 04:39 AM

Basically, I want Capcom to get off its fat ass and make good games again.
Dude. Devil May GODDAMN Cry, 1 and 3 (we'll just pretend 2 doesn't exist for now) and a number 4 on the way? If those do not constitute Capcom making good games, what does?

Although another BoF would roxxorz my boxxorz, roxxorz them HARD, I admit... but I kind of doubt it'll be happening.

As for what I'm looking forward to? Well what I've seen of the FFXIII games so far look promising. I mean, one is made by the KH team. There is no way that game will not rock in both gameplay and story. Further the 'main' FFXIII game looks pretty badass too. Love the design for the gun blade this time around, the new ATB system looks pretty sweet, and the 'combat' movies seem to integrate some current gen FMV quality graphics. If they keep heading in that direction (and even if the graphics degrade somewhat) I'll be more than happy.

FFXII is also a game I'm looking forward too. I mean, it's about sky pirates. Seriously. Sky. Pirates. The only way I could be more excited is if it was about sky ninja. Sky ninja fighting sky pirates.

And, obviously DMC4 is a big one for me, as is GoW2. I just absolutely adore the game play on those two franchises. So fluid, so quick, so... fun.

Of course, there's also Twilight Princess and any other Zelda games. I mean, I bought the Gamecube ONLY because of Zelda (and it has been the only game I've enjoyed on there).

...Oh, and Castelvania. The original.

I mean, I know it won't be a remake or anything, but Nintendo should have it available as one of their under $10 downloads with the Wii. And, you know... the original Castlevania. I need not say more.

And all those other old NES and SNES games that I don't have anymore.

Although, I swear, if it's relegated to only first party games (which will leave me with what? Ice Climbers, Mario, and Zelda for my NES downloads?) I swear to god I will beat Miyamoto with a rusty bat even harder than if the Wii-mote Zelda controls are fucked up.

greed

05-25-2006, 04:50 AM

Just adding something I'm pretty sure you can use the Gamecube controller on the Wii version if you want, though by the E3 reports it doesn't seem that they fucked up.
Earlier I had the impression this was just unnanounced sequels not known to exist, but in general the sequels I'm looking forward to most are TLoZ:TP, MGS4 and RE5. Also hoping for Pikmin 3, that'll be sweet with the Wii-remote.

Krylo

05-25-2006, 04:54 AM

Oh yeah, speaking of unannounced things...

KH2's ending BEGS for a sequel. BEGS for it.

And yes, I will buy KH3. I don't care what it's on or how much it costs.

Lockeownzj00

05-25-2006, 06:24 AM

Grandmaster_Skweeb

05-25-2006, 07:50 AM

the Zerg have no indavidual will

That was when the Overmind was alive. Although the individual creatures had no will each brood was directly controlled through the cerebrates (think thats what they were called). He, the Overmind, could easily pick and choose to control a damn large group or an individual if it so tickled his fancy. But considering the humongous population of the Zerg race that would probably be too much for even the Overmind to control effectively. Hence the Overmind>Cerebrate>Overlords>minions chain of command.

Since the Overming itself was destroyed, and not the entire race, that could easily be spun into a different ethos/lore/(word). Possibly saying that the cerebrates (or whatever the hell those maggot brain underling things with a fair semblance of individuality are called) learned to take over their broods and survive without the Will of the Overmind.

Also considering that the Jormungand brood's combat speciality was strength in overwhelming numbers it would be the most viable brood for a WoS Zerg playerbase.

Plus I don't see WoS ever happening, but if it were thats how I'd imagine Blizzard would spin it.

Mirai Gen

05-25-2006, 01:53 PM

I donno. I had never played DMC before, so a few weeks ago I started playing on and off. It just feels like...a tech demo or something. I like the 'buying skills' thing. I like fucking around in battles.

But he jumps in this stupid, clunky way. The castle feels as linear as it could pospsibly be. Bosses really aren't that hard. The plot is tenuous at best. I mean, I guess when I pull off a string of moves it's supposed to be cool and all, but I'd prefer Viewtiful Joe for that.
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I will let you live for this heresy...

Dude. Devil May GODDAMN Cry, 1 and 3 (we'll just pretend 2 doesn't exist for now) and a number 4 on the way? If those do not constitute Capcom making good games, what does?
He's talking about Mega Man and Street Fighter clones. Once, they used to be outstanding games, but now they've just applied Generic Repeats to it.

Obvious exceptions include Mega Man Zero.

Don't get me wrong. At one point, I think someone dropped the Devil May Cry lisence into the Street Fighter district. Fortunately, Capcom recognized this mistake. The result was that bastard DMC2.

But since the last 'good' Mega Man game was X and X4, which was the original PSX, I'm more than ready to get a next-gen console Mega Man.

Edit for great justice;
Worlds of Starcraft was purely a joke, and a really good one too. Blizzard would never do it. They're still counting their money from the Warcraft version. On top of that, if they did, it'd end up like a brand-name Planetside. Which would probably be cool, since I happen to like Planetside, and Blizzard could do it correctly.

But, above all, I'm with Fifthfiend. I've been waiting to stomp Kerrigan's sexy tentacle'd ass for years now, quit fucking around.

Morotis

05-25-2006, 06:38 PM

I agree with evilness, Blizzard dosn't have to make another game as long as they exist. They just need to continuously make WoW patches and sequels, meanwhile those fools will pay $15 a month to play a crap game online...

Bells

05-25-2006, 07:11 PM

So... how can a MMORPG based on starcraft NOT be a PVP fest?

Also.. on the Zergs... there's always the "neo" approach...

Mac

05-25-2006, 10:49 PM

I want an Illusion of Gaia Remake dammit.

If you don;t know what I am talking about, i direct your eyes tohere (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusion_of_Gaia)

That and I want a Megaman Legends 3 and possibly a FFVI Remake

ElfLad

05-25-2006, 11:08 PM

Skies of Arcadia warrants a sequel, or at least a similar game, if not a technical "sequel"

Magus

05-26-2006, 01:02 AM

Sky pirating is a much ignored subject, I agree, even though FFXII apparently is using it for much of the plotline, the actual gameplay may not involve it much...

I'd like a remake of most any Final Fantasy that's SNES, an actual REMAKE, mind you, not Origins or Dawn of Souls with some added content and Wonderswan graphics, I want a move into 3D mastery and all that snazz. Final Fantasy III is nice, no doubt about it, although never having experienced it before in America at all makes it seem really like a completely NEW game, so I'm asking for FFVI to be remade, and yes, if we HAVE to remake FFVII just to make it happen, I'll accept the sacrifice and buy it. Such a martyr, I am...

FFVII IS supposedly going to be remade for the PS3, and have a twist on FFXII's battle system, dunno how they're going to pull that but I wish them luck, I guess, especially if it also gets me an FFVI remake, c'mon Squarenix, you can do it...

Kenryoku_Maxis

05-26-2006, 01:16 AM

I donno...I just can't see FFVI being better in 3D. Better 2D graphics would be fine. Update FFVI and put them in Chrono Trigger sptires, rock on! But part of what made FFVI so unique to me was its 2D style and original sprite expressions.

But it could definitely do with better enemy designs. Those old drwn images that flashed and beeped were not to my liking in any age.

Satan's Onion

05-26-2006, 04:11 AM

I want an Illusion of Gaia Remake dammit.

If you don;t know what I am talking about, i direct your eyes tohere (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusion_of_Gaia)

Oh yes. Oh, yes. I heart the Zelda series as much as the next RPG aficionado, but gimme Soul Blazer, Illusion of Gaia, and Terranigma (not even necessarily remakes, either, but I can see an IoG remake in three dimensions roxxoring my boxxors and other undergarments), and I will be a happy gamer.

Oh, and more Earthworm Jim, dammit!