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Burkion
05-14-2006, 11:00 PM
OK, we all know that the 'Lite Warriors' as we know them, were never ment to be the REAL Warriors of Light, but I just had a thought: what if Fighter was suposed to be a legendary hero...just not the one that we are more so familar with. AKA, what if HE was suposed to be the ENlightened Warrior? Remember, Bahamut said that there was only ONE Enlightened Warrior...and that Fighter was he.

But, Fighter, ironicly enough, screwed that all up when he saw the sign for 'Light Warrior Try Outs', and thus the Lite Warriors were created, and later on RM confused the matter of the one Enlightened Warrior, thinking Bahamut ment the four LIGHT warriors.

So with that in mind...the only true heroes in this entire story are Fighter, the Enlightened Warrior, and the 'Real' Light Warriors.

RM, Thief and BM are all...well, going by this, enemies.

Sky Warrior Bob
05-15-2006, 06:21 AM
Actually, you've got it all wrong. The main cast *ARE* the Light Warriors. Lite Warriors is a term used for the four FF1 upgrade sprites. I also call them the Legendary Warriors of Legend, since they keep applying for all the Legendary Warrior gigs (Light Warriors, Bearded Warriors).

SWB

Seran
05-15-2006, 06:25 AM
Lite Warriors, Lightbulb Warriors, we just call them those to determine them from the 'real' Light Warriors...but if Lite Warriors is the term for the -- hold on, which ones are you talking about? It better be the 'real' Light Warriors, otherwise I'm thinking Final Fantasy IIIj.

Anyway, it's either destiny being screwed over by stupidity, or fate being a drunken nimrod and screwing with truth. Either one goes.

Sky Warrior Bob
05-15-2006, 06:42 AM
Just to be clear, the Lite Warriors are the characters that appear in this (http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=011016) episode. They appear in other episodes but I'm too lazy to go & look for every appearance they've had.

SWB

[ray.z]
05-15-2006, 09:13 AM
They [the real light warriors] also appear:

Ep. 104 (http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=020102)
Ep. 193 (http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=020918) (well i aint sure about this one - it just uses an upgraded class sprite)
Ep. 198 (http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=020930)
Ep. 249 (http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=030213)
Ep. 365 (http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=031218)
Vacation '04 #7 (http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=040522) (while this is just a filler I'll include cause it does relate to them)
Ep. 539 (http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=050412) I reckon this one is hilarious! Where's our boat, Barry!

Yeah I get bored some times.

Sky Warrior Bob
05-15-2006, 12:08 PM
Point, Brian has specifically stated that the Light Warriors are in fact the real Light Warriors. This isn't like Ghostbusters & The Real Ghostbusters. No apes need apply.

And if you understand what I'm talking about, I feel your pain.

SWB

Knight McWarrior
05-15-2006, 04:27 PM
Point, Brian has specifically stated that the Light Warriors are in fact the real Light Warriors.
SWB
Which Light warriors are you talking about in the first place? The ones we know and love/hate?

rodent347
05-15-2006, 05:05 PM
Speaking of the 'Real" Light Warriors, we haven't seen them in a while.
The Dark and Other Warriors tried to get a class change, do you think they'll try out for the Enlightened Warrior gig? Bahamut might think them as evil liars and 'Thief' them...

Mac
05-15-2006, 06:54 PM
']They [the real light warriors] also appear:

Ep. 539 (http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=050412) I reckon this one is hilarious!

Yeah I get bored some times.

I laughed so hard when I read the last panel.

Where's our boat Barry.

I thought of something. What if Fighter is really Barry? I mean the two of them is always screwing up so...

Sky Warrior Bob
05-15-2006, 07:21 PM
People have speculated that Barry is the Lite Warriors' Red Wizard. Partially because he's usually right next to Knight when he starts his tirade against Barry, and partially because he's a Red Wizard.

And for those of you who still can't keep track:
Knight, Ninja, White Wizard, & Red Wizard = Lite Warriors
Fighter, Thief, Black Mage & Red Mage = Light Warriors
Rouge, Beserker, Cleric & Ranger = Other Warriors
Garland, Drizz'l, Bikke & Vilbert = Dark Warriors

SWB

Tiako
05-15-2006, 08:08 PM
Which Light warriors are you talking about in the first place? The ones we know and love/hate?
Fighter, Thief, BM, and RM are the REAL Light Warriors. The others are just a send-up of the stereotypical RPG hero, as well as a joke in and of themselves. You can tell because their thief isn't skilled enough to steal color from the past.

The real ones: :bmage: :thief: :rmage: :fighter:

Burkion
05-16-2006, 12:04 AM
OK, so that's my bad. Damn terms...

Anyways, I still think Fighter should have been the Enlightend Warrior, with the Lite Warriors being the REAL Light Warriors, and Thief RM and BM being...who they are.

Gabriel Frostfell
05-16-2006, 04:27 AM
What a coincidence: Another appearance of the Lite Warriors. (http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=060516) Me thinks Brian reads the forums he holds control over... but no... that would be a scary thought.

Sky Warrior Bob
05-16-2006, 06:58 AM
As I had this comic planned since May 6th, when I was putting together last week's comics prior to E3, it's one of them weirdo coinkydinks.

SWB

Burkion
05-16-2006, 01:53 PM
Yeah, but it has happend twice to me already...

Once was around the same time I mentioned something about WM, and then BAM there she is. Covered in BB's headblood.

Gabriel Frostfell
05-16-2006, 03:18 PM
Yeah, but it has happend twice to me already...

Once was around the same time I mentioned something about WM, and then BAM there she is. Covered in BB's headblood.

:sweatdrop Headblood isn't healthy... it kina like Moutnain Dew... only not as bad. But yes, one of us is secretly Brian in disguise! And I say we play Clue to solve it! :: isnert clue theme here and Gabe turns into Tim Curry :: Call me Wadsworth!

Skit
05-16-2006, 04:08 PM
But yes, one of us is secretly Brian in disguise! And I say we play Clue to solve it! :: isnert clue theme here and Gabe turns into Tim Curry :: Call me Wadsworth!

... It's Kurosen. Call off the search, maybe?

Burkion
05-16-2006, 05:01 PM
...I'M NOT BRIAN, DAMNIT!


...er....

Gabriel Frostfell
05-16-2006, 05:48 PM
... It's Kurosen. Call off the search, maybe?

Kurosen?! The guy with the clay-mation avatar? THAT'S Brian?

...wow...

bass_virus
05-16-2006, 06:20 PM
Warrior, Ninja, WW, and RW may be the real Light Warriors, but Fighter, Theif, Black Mage, and Red Mage are the true Enlightened Warriors who just happened to steal the Light Warrior job first and before they fufilled their destiny by become the EW's

Burkion
05-18-2006, 09:29 PM
...didn't I just mention White Mage? In THIS thread? ...


....




...............

Kurosen
05-18-2006, 09:42 PM
Kurosen?! The guy with the clay-mation avatar? THAT'S Brian?

...wow...

What did you think I was doing every time I made a new episode thread, often speaking, though briefly, about how or why the comic in question came to be?

Burkion
05-18-2006, 09:44 PM
Some are just slower then others.

BlackBelt McMonk
05-19-2006, 08:51 PM
Kurosen?! The guy with the clay-mation avatar? THAT'S Brian?

...wow...

Isn't that mentioned somewhere in "The rules of Iron-Fistedness" or whatever they're called? I distinctly remember reading something about it when I made my account.

Seran
05-19-2006, 11:58 PM
Yeah, it was clearly stated in the rules. Along with not requesting to become a moderator or administator, not openly flaming others, not speaking of depression or spamming, no one-word posts, no disrespecting the rule of a moderator, the request for rationality within these forums, et cetera, et cetera...

You know, Burkion, now that you've mentioned the "Enlightened Warrior" thing, what was up with that?

Flarecobra
05-20-2006, 12:23 AM
Yeah, but it has happend twice to me already...

Once was around the same time I mentioned something about WM, and then BAM there she is. Covered in BB's headblood.


...I don't see WM covered in BB's headblood.

King_black_mage
05-20-2006, 12:23 AM
What did you think I was doing every time I made a new episode thread, often speaking, though briefly, about how or why the comic in question came to be?

Wait.....Wait....So does this mean that you been reading what we beenposting and using that? If so then wow. Oh and how did the comic come to be?

KBM

Burkion
05-20-2006, 12:25 AM
...I don't see WM covered in BB's headblood.

I meant the last time I mentioned her. Now...she's covered in shadow.

death_trooper
05-21-2006, 08:08 AM
ive had a thought
fighter only did the job for shineies, BM didnt want to at all
in fact, the only one doing it for the good of mankind is....
...White mage.....
could SHE be the enlightened warrior?
It couldn't be.....
...could it?

Gabriel Frostfell
05-22-2006, 06:31 PM
What did you think I was doing every time I made a new episode thread, often speaking, though briefly, about how or why the comic in question came to be?

Well... to be honest I never joined in those "Latest Comic" discussion threads because they seem to drag on, so I wouldn't know, Oh Great Creator of the Humorous Page, so that would explain me not realizing you are Brian, creator of the funnies which make me go 'Ha'.

Either way, a pleasure to meet you, ehehehehe. :sweatdrop

invghost
05-22-2006, 09:56 PM
ive had a thought
fighter only did the job for shineies, BM didnt want to at all
in fact, the only one doing it for the good of mankind is....
...White mage.....
could SHE be the enlightened warrior?
It couldn't be.....
...could it?


Not really warrior is it? Shes only ever used her hammer on black mage, and never actually MEANT to kill a monster

Vidihawk
05-23-2006, 12:18 PM
Not really warrior is it? Shes only ever used her hammer on black mage, and never actually MEANT to kill a monster

Oh no? (http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=041102)

Clord
05-24-2006, 08:31 AM
Oh no? (http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=041102)

That really shows how useful fake warriors are.

invghost
05-24-2006, 08:02 PM
oh yeah.. but that was more of a anger thing.. :sweatdrop i forgot about kary.. somehow

YF-23
05-26-2006, 12:53 PM
I think that BM is not in fact a light warrior...

After all, he didn't get a class change from Bahamut. I think that WM should in fact be a member of the Light Warriors. But that's just my opinion.

death_trooper
05-26-2006, 05:05 PM
HOLD ON A MINUTE!
Black mage bumped into fighter when fighter was kicked out of fighters camp 86 (or 89, i cant remember)
Consider, if you will, fighter NEVER bumped into BM.
AND when fighter applied for the light warrior gig, WM would have got in, wouldn't she?
So technically, WM should be a light warrior, and BM shouldnt..
That what i think

YF-23
05-27-2006, 01:38 AM
Well, Fighter should have to convince her first, cause she got in thanx to BM. Even though Red Mage came in her position. Hmm, the rest of the party (during voting) wanted BM out, even Fighter!

Yeah, I think BM shouldn't be part of the Light Warriors. And I bet that he will learn that towards the end, and he will be very, very angry. That's me only guessing though.

Burkion
05-27-2006, 05:08 AM
He already knows. The vote thing, remember?

Clord
05-27-2006, 04:34 PM
That is good point. BM not really got class change so automatically like other light warriors.

death_trooper
05-31-2006, 10:14 AM
So if BM's not a light warrior..
What in fact IS he???

Gabriel Frostfell
05-31-2006, 10:23 AM
The Unholy Messiah of the Darko, the Dark God of the Dark?

YF-23
05-31-2006, 01:30 PM
So if BM's not a light warrior..
What in fact IS he???
A servant of Chaos, messanger of death and destruction, I dunno, something evil. But if Enlightened warriors=Light warriors (just a slight different word which could mean the same thing) then BM is not a part of them.

Hmm, something else that crossed my mind now, BM is supposed to be a servant of Chaos or something like that, right? Now, when in the end it's time to fight Chaos, what the hell is BM supposed to do???

Gabriel Frostfell
05-31-2006, 04:11 PM
mm, something else that crossed my mind now, BM is supposed to be a servant of Chaos or something like that, right? Now, when in the end it's time to fight Chaos, what the hell is BM supposed to do???

He is a servant of the concept of Chaos, not the being, as noted here (http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=010730).

Also, he is a Nexus of a greter power than he himself realizes, which makes his presence manditory, as his presence is what will change the tides of history and bend reality to what will come next... as detialed here (http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=010925).

Speaking of which, should Kuro-san/Brian be reading this, where did ou get the images/what effects did you use for those two comics? I am impressed and somewhat obsessed, also with this one (http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=011012).

Could you impart your wisdom onto me?

YF-23
06-01-2006, 02:39 AM
Yeah, but he worships Dark Gods (as he reveals prior to his class change, comic 654 (http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=060128)) and they work for Chaos (comic 663 (http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=060218)). So, doesn't that mean he indirectly worships Chaos as well?

Heliomance
06-01-2006, 11:39 AM
BM did get a class change at the same time, he just didn't change his clothes. And wasn't impressed when he did. And I'm sure the FF1 sprites have been referred to as the Real Light Warriors - they are the ones that should have got the job. It's just that Thief tricked King Steve, I'm fairly sure. Our four heroes really aren't terribly light morally.

Burkion
06-01-2006, 11:27 PM
That's because these four should never of BEEN the Light Warriors.

Thief was 'talked' into it by Fighter, and RM just sorta poped up from nowhere. Like a twinky ghost.

Hell, if BM had never of bumped into Fighter, who knows where Fighter would have ended up. Though I be thinkin' that he would have shown up at Bahamut's cave to become the One True Enlightend Warrior.

YF-23
06-02-2006, 05:56 AM
That's because these four should never of BEEN the Light Warriors.

Thief was 'talked' into it by Fighter, and RM just sorta poped up from nowhere. Like a twinky ghost.

Hell, if BM had never of bumped into Fighter, who knows where Fighter would have ended up. Though I be thinkin' that he would have shown up at Bahamut's cave to become the One True Enlightend Warrior.
He would still have to find a rat's tail though...

And, well, since Fighter, Thief and RM obtained their class change thanks to Bahamut I believe that they are part of the Light Warrior thing. What troubles me with BM is that he changed class through other means which means he isn't an Enlightened warrior, and maybe enlighted warriors=Light warriors. Plus, don't forget the voting episodes. What else, other than fate could have led all the others, including Fighter vote BM off? Not really a coincidence, especially since Fighter thinks of BM as his "bestest friend". At least he would never have voted BM off.

So, IMO the real LW party should have been Fighter, Thief, RM and WM.

BlackMageFF1
06-02-2006, 07:22 AM
I don't know if anyone posted this before (I only read the first page of the thread) but we have seen the real light warriors very recently, in episode 696

Gabriel Frostfell
06-02-2006, 09:47 AM
That's because these four should never of BEEN the Light Warriors.

So, IMO the real LW party should have been Fighter, Thief, RM and WM.

I don't know if anyone posted this before (I only read the first page of the thread) but we have seen the real light warriors very recently, in episode 696

It's been settled already. The REAL Light Warriors are BM, RM, Fighter and Thief.

The Lite Warriors (as in fake): are Barry (the RW), WW, Knight and Ninja. The Brian has stated this himself (check some of the earlier pages, like 2 or 3).

YF-23
06-02-2006, 10:05 AM
But Brian likes screwing playing tricks to his fans, right? And maybe there will be a contradiction at some point, like at the end BM gets really angry that he in fact isn't a LW and detroys Chaos proving himself a LW.

death_trooper
06-02-2006, 11:10 AM
An act of pure anger overcomes BM so he murders the darkest thing on earth?
If that doesn't give him some points with WM, i dont know what will..

Gabriel Frostfell
06-03-2006, 04:50 PM
But Brian likes screwing playing tricks to his fans, right? And maybe there will be a contradiction at some point, like at the end BM gets really angry that he in fact isn't a LW and detroys Chaos proving himself a LW.

Be that as it may, you never know, he may have been tired of seeing these arguments, after all this is the umpteenth thread to start with the questioning of who are the REAL light warriors. We'll have to see.