FF RP Discussion 3

[Truce]

Next time, when it hits 100 or close to it (feh, I should've done it, I know, but just in case I'm not here), make a new thread. If it's the rp, title it FF RP Chapter # Continued. If it's a discussion/omake/etc. then just add 1 to the number.

Anyway, I had planned on doing something like an opera. More on that later, in the next chapter.

[IHateMakingNames]

When is Celes coming into this? Or has she just forgotten/left this RP?

She isn't coming in during the opera, is she? That's just to corny, due to her name and FFVI...

[Forever Zero]

I think that would surpass the legal cliche allowance for any RP, although now that it has been brought up, either A.) That's whats happening or B.) Celes just forgot the whole RP.

[Truce]

Actually...I think it was B. Though I'd feel kinda stupid PMing her about it now though, since it's been a while.

Also...no...I had not planned on that happening. Though, now that you mention it, it would be sorta funny. Heh.

[CelesJessa]

Hey! I haven't forgotten, not in the least. I've just been waiting for when I get the call from the leader saying, "Alrighty, now's a good time for you to come in".

I may be forgetful, but I'm not that forgetful.
(but, thanks to IHMN who Pmed me, informing me that I should inform you all that I haven't forgotten or died or anything like that. I just... can't remember my character's name... she was a dragoon though...)

And DARN all of the cliches, I wanna go to the opera. ^_~ hehe. Just kidding, whatever works is fine with me.

[IHateMakingNames]

Want to know where people are and what is happening? Will probably make it easier to jump in (May have to change character a little, since I think you had a N' person, when changing to a wandering type person might make it easier to jump in)

[Forever Zero]

Well, you can either join Dezil, who is N'Revat and plotting an escape after Ciaran takes over and Dezil sees how he rules his own nation. You can join the wandering heros, who are off to do... something I guess... Or you can join the mildly insane and insanely powerful Dante on his quest to do someting else...

It seems that not all of our heros have clear goals...

[IHateMakingNames]

Your Magitek, she's dragoon... I think it's easier for her to change her character to more of a merc, and join the run away heroes in Ripels home town, like Zephir is doing.

And you don't want to get near Dante...

[Forever Zero]

*sniff* I don't want to do it, but I may have to give up my Magitek Armor when he flees, since it is hard to sneak away in an 8-10 foot suit of magical metal machinery...

I'll probably switch him to a more magitek/normal gun guy after he flees.

[IHateMakingNames]

Give him Magitek guns

[CelesJessa]

Yeah, a mercinary might be a good idea. And I think I'll have her join up with the heroes.

But could somebody give me a summary of what's happened, so she doesn't have to ask about it in the RP?

[Forever Zero]

That's what I was thinking. Dezil is going to get out of there with all the mechanical and Magitek loot he can carry, and I have one last trick up his sleeve to help escape...

A summery could take a while, it has been a pretty eventful RP...

Basically, the current situation is the N'Revat have conquered the Rab, then Ciaran, an evil N'Revat general, has staged a coup and now leads the N'Revat. A band of heros left and will encounter something on their quest, Dante is a crazed super powerful mage off doing something, and Dezil is trying to escape the new N'Revat dictatorship.

[IHateMakingNames]

No... Stick with not knowing, it will be more intresting...

[Dante]

Celes, your character's name is Kirie. She pokes people with a spear as a primary abiltiy and uses spear magic (kinda like Cid's sword magic, but with spears) as a secondary.

[IHateMakingNames]

I think Celes knows what her character is...

[Dante]

Damn nation. See what happens when you skim?

[Zephie]

I'm feeling so tempted lately to want to be a General under Ciaran... @_@

[Truce]

Don't worry, the dark side is always tempting.

Anyway, heh, sorry Celes. Just jump in...now, making a post I guess. Depending on what you choose we'll inform you of what you need to know.

If you pick Ciaran you won't need to ask in game (she'll have been debriefed), but if you join Ripel...well, noone else knows what he's doing abtwat. If you join Dante...well, you're crazy. :P

[Dante]

Well, there'll be vacancies for my side soon, so just hang on for a chance to wreak much havoc and mayhem! XD

[Zephie]

Neh, I was just wantin' to throw a beatin' on some random resistance armies in grand military sweeps. :p

But who do I think I'm kiddin'? It'll be bad enough just trying to find a place in the party(s) for him and slushing through battles (and most likely getting myself killed) with Naras, let alone trying to play a villain. :3 Nah, I'll be satisfied jus' being "that guy that hangs around back there...what's his name again?".

[Dante]

That doesn't have to be the case. Make sure Naras *is* a character - he stands out. He doesn't have to hurl death around either, just make him unique.

[cruelty13]

Back to the opera. Wouldn't it bew great if ALL the cast would sing in it. Say, my character in one of the leading roles.

[Dante]

R&J?

Romeo - Ark
Juliet - Carolina
Tybalt - Deamon
Mercutio - Dante
Benvolio - Dezil
Capulet - Ciaran
Montague - Ripel
Nurse - Elyse
Prince - Blyr

[IHateMakingNames]

Who's Tybalt?

[Dante]

The highly aggressive guy who keeps picking on Romeo. He pokes Mercutio to death with a rapier by accident during the play, and is subsequently poked by Romeo later during the scene.

[IHateMakingNames]

I rather not be associated with anyone in that play... Since it sucked.

And Dante is not Mercutio... Not at all...

[cruelty13]

You'r making an aristocrat a nurse. When you wan't that in the play, then I'll play an really evil nurse. I'll poison Juliet and then tell Romeo of her death. I think she sjhould be the mother of Juliet.

[Forever Zero]

... I don't think we should do Romeo and Juliet at all...

I think someone whould just make up a story about the N'Revat and Rab battles, something along the lines of the FFVI fake opera it made up for the game. Some characters could be in it, some could watch, and others would be there to mess it up.

[Mr. Viewtiful]

If we were doing the Romeo&Juliet thing, I think Blyr would make a better Mercutio. But being Prince ain't bad either :D

[EDIT]
I found a good them song for Dezil, although it only really works if he had a love interest at one point in time. It's very scientist-ish, kinda like Dezil, so, without further ado (or whatever), here it is!

The Scientist
Coldplay

Come up to meet you, tell you I'm sorry,
You don't know how lovely you are.
I had to find you, tell you I need you,
Tell you I set you apart.

Tell me your secrets and ask me your questions,
Oh lets go back to the start.
Running in circles, coming in tales,
Heads are a science apart.

Nobody said it was easy,
It's such a shame for us to part.
Nobody said it was easy,
No one ever said it would be this hard

Oh take me back to the start.

I was just guessing at numbers and figures,
Pulling your puzzles apart.
Questions of science, science and progress,
Do not speak as loud as my heart.

Tell me you love me, come back and haunt me,
Oh and I rush to the start.
Running in circles, chasing tails,
And coming back as we are.

Nobody said it was easy,
It's such a shame for us to part.
Nobody said it was easy,
Noone ever said it would be so hard.

I'm going back to the start.

[Truce]

I find it odd Ripel would be Montague. Though, Ciaran and him are 'mortal enemies'...however, neither of them are moody nor stupid.

Anyway, that's a cool way to start a chapter, with an opera/musical/play prolouge.

One more thing. Tomorrow or the day after I'm gonna implement the 'The Next *insert unit of time*' plot device. So...that means, it will sorta be starting a new chapter..but it isn't. In any case that means post your preparations/interactions/actions/conversations.

Generals will be sent out to their locations. Dezil, and Kirie if she joins the N'Revat, will go to Ripel's village (Name: Emoh) and place it under their control. DUN DUN DUN!!!

Okay, you're not surprised. Oh well.

Dante-One question, what village did Rin go to?

PS: As I see them so far if the theatre idea does go through.
Opera-Stars Carolina/Blyr
Musical-Stars Ark/Carolina
Play-Ark/Blyr
Others (Unsure)-Zephir/Kirie/Deamon (Though, I suspect he'd be the one most likely to mess/blow up the actors)
Audience-Ciaran/Elyse
Guard-Dezil

[Forever Zero]

Well, I was going to have Dezil break off from the N'Revat since he thinks Ciaran is crazy to treat his own people like he is, but I can definatly think of interesting opportunites for Dezil to stay in now...

And whatever happened to Krylo? Did he say he didn't want to be in the RP anymore?

EDIT: That's a good song Mr. V, but I heard it and it just doesn't seem right for Dezil. It has a very slow, easier pace, and Daft Punk seemed to fit better because it was more techno and had a sort of factory beat to it.

[Truce]

He got temporarily banned, but don't worry, he'll be back in about a week. Then, let the doomage begin.

[Dante]

Dante-One question, what village did Rin go to?



A seaside town, Y'reniw. I was going by your reversing "Bar" and "Tavern" and using them for names.

[cruelty13]

Ecurt, I don't want Elyse to be in the adience (I think. Maybe I will rethink)

[Forever Zero]

A seaside town, Y'reniw. I was going by your reversing "Bar" and "Tavern" and using them for names.

... Winery? Nice choice...

[Krylo]

I was reading through the idea for an opera, and I was thinking... if you're going to work it in... you could make it a rebel plot with Ripel and them using the Opera as a way to get close to Ciaran. Make most of the actors NPCs while maybe one or two of the rebels are on stage, and the rest are backstage trying to assassinate Ciaran or capture him or whatever. I could see Kirie playing some minor role in the the Opera and then Ripel or Blyr causing a huge distraction for the guards, while she jumps and attacks Ciaran... would be an interesting way to get into Preos too... pretending to be an acting troupe.

[Forever Zero]

An interesting way to flesh out that idea. I would still vote for putting something like that in there, it would be pretty fun and interesting to do.

[CelesJessa]

I think it sounds fun. ^^ I wanna play a part in the opera. Get some Celes/FFVI spoof-like action going on in the RP. ^^ I think it would be fun.

Oh yeah, on another note, I've been writing Kirie's name wrong off and on, between Kirie and Kairi, I don't know how often I've used Kairi instead of Kirie, but I know it's probably a lot.
So should I just make her name Kairi, (since I think I would remember that better and that's the name I usually write on accedent) or try and keep writing it Kirie...

[Forever Zero]

*Shrug* Write whichever is easier to remember. I usually make my RP chars name easier to remember, and if it is hard to write/remember, they usually go by a nickname that is shorter.

[IHateMakingNames]

That's why most people use just one name (Jude for BM, Janus for you) most of the time, while most others use a couple (Thomas and Sam for Raiden, Kal and Ark for SS).

[CelesJessa]

I don't like using the same name too often. (if you can't tell) ^^;; I think I've only repeated a name a few times.

But yeah, I'm gonna keep it Kairi, just for my own sake and I think other people have written her name Kairi too... Plus I haven't been in the story that long that it will effect much. ^^;;

[Krylo]

Ahh... Also... on the subject of character theme songs... I rather like Voltaire, When You're Evil, for Ciaran. He's evil... but in a very playful way. He does it because it's fun more than for anything else. All the power he gathers is just fun to do, and makes his evil easier and more far spread... anyway, the lyrics:

When the Devil is too busy
And Death's a bit too much
They call on me by name you see,
For my special touch.
To the Gentlemen I'm Miss Fortune
To the Ladies I'm Sir Prize
But call me by any name
Any way it's all the same

I'm the fly in your soup
I'm the pebble in your shoe
I'm the pea beneath your bed
I'm a bump on every head
I'm the peel on which you slip
I'm a pin in every hip
I'm the thorn in your side
Makes you wriggle and writhe
And it's so easy when you're evil
This is the life, you see
The Devil tips his hat to me
I do it all because I'm evil
And I do it all for free
Your tears are all the pay I'll ever need

While there's children to make sad
While there's candy to be had
while there's pockets left to pick
While there's grannies to trip down the stairs
I'll be there, I'll be waiting round the corner
It's a game. I'm glad I'm in it
'Cause there's one born every minute

I pledge my allegiance, to all things dark
And I promise on my damned soul
To do as I am told, Lord Beelxebub
Has never seen a soldier quite like me
Not only does his job, but does it happily.

I'm the fear that keeps you awake
I'm the shadows on the wall
I'm the monsters they become
I'm the nightmare in your skull
I'm a dagger in your back
An extra turn on the rack
I'm the quivering of your heart
A stabbing pain, a sudden start.

And it's so easy when you're evil
This is the life, you see
The Devil tips his hat to me
I do it all because I'm evil
And I do it all for free
Your tears are all the pay I'll ever need
And I do it all for free
Your tears are all the pay I'll ever need
And I do it all for free
Your tears are all the pay I'll ever need

It gets so lonley being evil
What I'd do to see a smile
Even for a little while
And no one loves you when you're evil
I'm lying though my teeth!
Your tears are all the company I need


It has a very... playful tone to the song, and then at the end when he's singing "It gets lonely being evil" etc. it gets all sad for a second right up to "I'm lying through my teeth!" where it picks straight back up. Amusing song.

[Mr. Viewtiful]

Blyr could be a distraction...hehehe

*revs up Thumpmobile*

[Forever Zero]

You know that I'm going to have to think up some crazy reason for Dezil to create the Thumpmobile now that he's on the resistance's side, right? :D

[Zephie]

It could be loaded with...Magitek-powered Stereo Speakers of DOOOOOMMMM!!!

[Forever Zero]

Yes, and the speakers would fire lasers and missiles! Brilliant!

Wait a sec, this may be in the wrong thread...

[CelesJessa]

Would they be painful lazers, or light-show like lazers?

Anyhoo.

So are we still planning that Opera thing (I was looking through the discussion a little) and if we are are we gonna make up the story for the opera as we go or is somebody going to write a short one we could use or something. Just curious. ^^;

[IHateMakingNames]

I doubt the Opera thing is going to happen... It would just be a random event thrown in for no reason that I can think of...

[Forever Zero]

I think Krylo gave a pretty good rationale for why they would do it. Their goal is to defeat Ciaran, and to do that they need to infiltrate the capital again and try to assasinate him. Sneaking in as an opera troup doesn't seem to far off, Ciaran may enjoy his bloodsports, but he also puts on a semi-refined image and probably wouldn't be above seeing a well done Opera. As for writing it up, I like to write stories so I might help, but I have no idea how to start it.

[Krylo]

Depending upon the content, Ciaran may even enjoy it. He is rather cultured, after all, albeit easily bored.

Anyway... a story for it might be something like a legend concerning the beginning of the cold war. Perhaps something involving a beautiful girl (mayhap a Rab princess) who was betrothed to a N'Revat prince, but whom loved a Rab soldier... and when she was to be forced to marry the prince the Soldier attacked with some of his friends... and then he was to be killed, the princess interjected herself between the weapon and her love. The soldier committed suicide shortly after, having failed to save the one he loves... and then both sides blamed the other for the loss of the princess.

[Forever Zero]

... I can't tell if that is closer to Romeo and Juliet, or the fake Opera made in FFVI, but it could work. The only question would be, is Ecurt going to even do it. I'm not so sure I can write up a play, but I could give it a try if Ecurt decided he didn't want to, or the characters could ad-lib it, knowing the basic plotline, saving anyone the trouble of writing up a script...

[Krylo]

I think it's kind of like romeo and juliet meets the FFVI opera, meets the FFIX tantalus play... but it's just something I whipped out of nowhere as the kind of thing they might have an opera/play on in the capital that the emperor may attend to.

[CelesJessa]

I think if we do the opera deal, we should have basic outline of the story, like Krylo's idea, but if any of us are in it (which I would imagine is going to happen) those of us who are in it should make it up as we go, since we don't know how many scenes of the opera are going to appear in the RP, since the show isn't the most important part of the chapter it will be in. Just to save somebody from writing an entire short opera/play just to have most all of it not used.

And is it going to be an opera, or just a play?

[Forever Zero]

If we're going for full on FF effect, it's got to be an opera! Otherwise it could be a play...

[IHateMakingNames]

With how the story is really going (Stuff you don't know), us going to Ciarans place leads to a high chance of city being destroyed...

[Krylo]

Well, we could just make everything leading up to the last scene a short synapsis for Ecurt to post to set us up, as well as what all the characters would be doing (Such as Ciaran getting a bit bored and off guard, maybe even napping... or clapping and enjoying it [depending on how well the fights are done], and Elyse sitting enraptured, neither expecting anything)... and then kind of come in at the last scene, play out a few lines or whatever... and then have Blyr/Ripel create the distraction, just as the princess gets stabbed (or whatever climax we're going to have if we don't go with my idea), and then the assassination attempt.

I'd like for this not to happen until some more stuff happens with Dante... because I have a plan for Ciaran to actually become a quasi-good guy. Even though he'll still be evil and manipulative.

[Mr. Viewtiful]

Sounds good, guys. I like all the ideas. If you need me to do anything in the play/opera, I'm in :D

And a Thumpmobile-type-thingey might fit into the storyline...but let's have Dezil do that later ;)

[Truce]

Opera-Good. Though someone else will have to write the intro. The people can adlib though, seeing as some may not remember them exactly.

Since Ripel is dead, he would be perfect to just pop up in the climax, which has Ciaran send his guards to the stage, and then Dezil pops up behind him with someone else. Those who know the basic plot should be able to guess what Dezil might do if Dante's thing already happened.

And the Thumpmobile could be the airship. Heh.

[IHateMakingNames]

Ripel is dead? When did that happen?

[Krylo]

He means that Ripel is presumed dead... because Ciaran sent those magitek to kill him in particular, I think.

[Truce]

Whoops.

...ehh, I mean, Ripel and Dezil are perceived as dead by Ciaran. Or at least, Dezil is.

[IHateMakingNames]

But the magitek came back reporting a lose probably, so I would think Ciaran (Who is smart) would probably assume Ripel is alive (And probably Dezil to, it wouldn't be that hard to figure out)

[Truce]

First, Dezil's Magitek blew up and made it look like he died. Second, I'm not sure but it may have looked like Ripel had been hit by that Flame Thrower. Third, Ciaran's troops fear him, and may say they have accomplished the original mission even if they knew it wasn't true.

[IHateMakingNames]

But Ciaran has these points to base off that Dizel is alive off. First, Dezil threw something that blew up. Some other pilot had to have seen it, and most likely it would have been reported. Second, after Dizel's 'death', his house was booby trapped and blew up with Ultima. Obviously he probably had that planned. Third, I think they would tell him they failed, rather then hoping that failing the mission but lying doesn't come back and bite them in the ass.

Or kyrlo can decide that he thinks they are both dead.

[Forever Zero]

Dezil didn't throw anything. It was an early transmitting device, that he used to overload the sub-commanders Magitek. The house is true, but that doesn't mean Dezil planned it as vengence, Ciaran may have presumed Dezil to be a paranoid eccentric that valued the secrecy of his work THAT much. And even if they say they failed, which would lead to a few executions most likely, they would have also reported the death of Dezil as contributing to the panic of the troops, since they wouldn't want it to look like they dropped the ball and ran with the troops. The selectivly lie, put all the blame on the 'dead' Dezil, and hope Ciaran goes light on them.

[Krylo]

Ciaran actually rather liked Dezil, though... most likely if the guy who was suppose to be 'guarding' him hadn't died in the ultima blast he would have killed him when he got back... Most likely that guard was the only one who was really suppose to be guarding his charge (as well as keeping track to make sure he's loyal, but not killing him). Ciaran loved the anti-magic fields... although he hates their color... and likes all the other trinkets Dezil made.

Anyway... he probably wouldn't be too surprised that Ripel is alive... FZ's scenerio on their lying selectively is probably the most realistic... trying to put all the blame on Dezil, because a lot of refugees wouldn't stay secret for long, and if they had done their job there'd be very few refugees. Ciaran is a rather thorough man and would have ordered the entire populace destroyed, or as close to it as possible, just incase Ripel confessed his sins. However... they'd probably tell him that Ripel at least was dead.

To put that all in an easy to read form: Ciaran has been told Dezil and Ripel are both dead, and he has no reason to question Dezil's death, but wouldn't be too extremely surprised if Ripel is alive... but at the moment has no reason to believe he's still alive either. He does have reason to send more people out to attack the refugees, however...

[Mr. Viewtiful]

After reading Dante's latest post on Dante's past, this song popped into my head. It may serve as a good theme song...

I Disappear
by Metallica

Hey, hey, hey
Here I go now
Here I go into new days
Hey, hey, hey
Here I go now
Here I go into new days
I'm pain, I'm hope, I'm suffer

Hey, hey, hey
Hey, hey, hey
Here I go into new days
Hey, hey, hey
Ain't no mercy
Ain't no mercy left for me

Hey, hey, hey
Ain't no mercy
Aint no mercy left for me
I'm pain, I'm hope, I'm suffer

Hey, hey, hey
Ain't no mercy
Ain't no mercy left for me

Do you bury me when I'm gone?
Do you teach me while I'm here?
Just as soon as I belong
Then it's time I disappear

Hey, hey, hey
And I went
And I went on down that road
Hey, hey, hey
And I went on
And I went on down that road
I'm pain, I'm hope, I'm suffer
Hey, hey, hey
Yeah, and I went on
And I went on down that road

Do you bury me when I'm gone?
Do you teach me while I'm here?
Just as soon as I belong
Then it's time I disappear

Do you bury me when I'm gone?
Do you teach me while I'm here?
Just as soon as I belong
Then it's time I disappear

(solo)

Do you bury me when I'm gone?
Do you teach me while I'm here?
Just as soon as I belong
Then it's time I disappear

Do you bury me when I'm gone?
Do you teach me while I'm here?
Just as soon as I belong
Then it's time I disappear

[Darth SS]

Woah....there's a discussion....


trippy.

I think I found Ark's theme, at least the one I think he should have once I finish his little...character upgrade. Yes.

Switchback. Don't know who it's by, but it kicks royal ass.

[CelesJessa]

I thought of a song that might be good for Kairi's theme song... but I dunno. It sounds a little too lovie dovie for her.
(it's the theme song from Legend of Dragoon, go figure ^_^; ) But the song sounds sad and like it could be explaining something sad that happened in her past which makes her so determined to protect people now.

If I finally decide if it should be her theme song, I'll post the lyrics. ^^;

[Krylo]

I liked Legend of Dragoon... which theme song is it?

PS. You are free to break the chains of fate which bind you.

[CelesJessa]

It's the one from the opening credits, titled "If you still believe". What the heck, here are the lyrics. It may or may not be hers. I'm still deciding if it sounds too pathetic for a person like Kairi, who probably should have a tougher song that doesn't have to do with love...

I had a dream that I could fly
I can feel each moment as time goes by
We never be too far away
You would always be here I heard you say

I never thought
Thought that it would be our last good bye
I still can dream
That one day love will fall out from the sky

Do you still remember, all the time that has gone by
Do you still believe that, love can fall out from the sky
If from where your standing, you can see the sky above
I'll be waiting for you, if you still believe in love

Find a way,
To bring back yesterday
Find a way to love
I hope we stay
When tomorrow becomes today
Love will find a way

I'll be waiting for you
In my heart you are the one
ah...
If I cannot find you
I will look up to the sun
If from where your standing
You can see the sky above

I'll be waiting for you, if you still believe in love

Do you still remember, all the time that has gone by
Do you still believe that love can fall out from the sky
If from where you're standing, you can see the sky above
I'll be waiting for you, if you still belive in love


What do you guys think? I really like the tune of this song. ^^;

[Darth SS]

Contradictions galore.

Her song is about love and seems sweet and stuff.

The majority that have been suggested via everyone else have been....yes.

[CelesJessa]

Yeah, I thought the song wasn't gonna work very well. (I played Legend of Dragoon recently and that song has been stuck in my head though... ^^; )
Hmmm... what song would work... *thinks* It has to be something more tough sounding and with less love stuff.

[Truce]

Eh...last time I remember, as a dragoon it would be Kairie falling from the sky. And yes, it is sorta lovey dovey. Still, I find it sorta funny that as a dragoon she drops out of the sky, and 'she' hopes for love to do the same.

Also, I choose "Perfect" from Simple Plan as Ripel's theme song. He does seem like he's regretful for making all those mistakes, and he does seem to strive for...yeah.

It's not as cool as the others though.

Anyway, I've got an idea for a theme song (actually writing one myself), so I'll try posting it up one I finish it. If I ever do.

[IHateMakingNames]

I'm not picking a song, cause at the moment Deamon is just tagging along and not killing anyway, since I need to wait a bit more to jump into the story.

[Krylo]

I'd imagine that when Ciaran's bandits attack Deamon will be needed to pull their asses out of the fire. They're mostly hardened participants of bloodsport, plus they, as bandits, would often be attacking armed convoys and stuff... I'd guess they'd be harder to destroy than the magitek. Of course, I don't really plan on controlling that battle at all, but rather just letting one of you control Killith and his men... unless you'd really rather I do it.

[IHateMakingNames]

I doubt they want Deamon to slaughter the bandits, and probably want to fight them themselves.

[Forever Zero]

Bandits harder to destroy than Magiteks?! First, our army of mages would have full access to their magical arsenal against humans, so as long as they had time to prepare their spells, they would wipe out a good portion of the bandits before they even started the fight. Second, you are saying that basically Pirates who have had to train themselves are better than you own militarily trained troops? I think you need to reconsider your military then...

Anyway, there are also trained warriors in the good guys camp, along with a small army of mages, and Dezil and his mechanical bag of tricks. I think we can hold our own against a group of bandits...

[Krylo]

No no... not harder to destroy persay... harder to defeat because they fight differently. Think of it this way... they've had to destroy magitek on a near daily basis just to eat. Most of the soldiers in an army will leave magitek to other magitek... they don't have access to that. And as for your mages, if you'd read my post, you'll notice the bandits have their own mages, as well as fighters.

Not better trained persay... but more difficult to kill on the basis that their training is from fighting militarily trained troops. And that's what they do for a living. So yes, they'd be more skilled... but not from training. Soldiers can be lazy, expect their platoon to figure things out and to help them through battle, and soldiers usually aren't battling in every fight... these are bandits that have constantly gone against better armored, better trained, and probably larger numbered foes. They're not going to be pushovers. Losing is also not an option at all to them. They know that if they're captured they'll be executed... and if they run Killith will kill them. There's no surrender, no running, just fight or die. Kind of like european pirates were more feared by the british military than other military ships... for those very reasons.

And really you just have a bunch of civilians, a blue mage, a geomancer, an engineer, a dragoon, a shaman, a white mage and a thief... excluding Deamon whose some sort of inhuman or superhuman being... or something. Three of them would be 'good' fighters with what they have on them... maybe four. Five if you count Ark, but to be honest, I think Ark is a bit more powerful than he should be... it's hard for me to imagine a thief destroying a bunch of magitek single handedly, especially with a background that shows him as a pacifistic thief.

I suppose you could handle it... but mostly due to Dezil's magitek tricks... I'm just saying it shouldn't be as easy as you seem to be thinking.

Anyway, Ecurt... I found a song that I think fits Ripel rather well with the whole assassination schtick... excuse the caps but when I looked up the exact lyrics that's how they came. What is Eternal by the Trans-Siberian Orchestra:

AND HERE IN THE NIGHT


AS I FEEL THE INFERNO
I STARE IN THE DARK
THINKING WHAT IS ETERNAL

THE MAN OR THE MOMENT
THE ACT OR THE REASON
THESE THOUGHTS FILL MY HEAD
AS I CONTEMPLATE TREASON

OF DREAMS I HAVE HAD
AND DREAMS I HAVE PONDERED
WHEN LATE IN THE NIGHT
MY MIND IT WOULD WANDER

TO THINGS I HAVE DONE
AND THEN QUICKLY REGRETTED
WHILE DENYING VICES
MY LIFE HAD SELECTED

AND I THINK WHAT I'VE DONE
OR HAVE YET TO BEGIN
AND THE MAN I'VE BECOME
AND THE MAN THAT I'VE BEEN

NOW CAUGHT IN A WALTZ
WITH THE ETERNAL DANCER
I'M COURTED BY DEATH
BUT DEATH ISN'T THE ANSWER
I SAY

ALL I WAS
MEANT TO BE
COULD I
SUDDENLY
JUST DECIDE
NOT A THOUGHT
WOULD SURVIVE
COULD IT BE
MY LIFE'S WORTH
ENDED THERE
WITH MY BIRTH

IF I COULD SEE SOMEONE
WHO'S BEEN THERE BEFORE ME
AND TRADED HIS SOUL
FOR A MOMENT OF GLORY

HIS PENANCE OR MERCY
BY SPIRITS DEBATED
WHILE JUDGED ON A SCALE
THAT'S BEEN HEAVILY WEIGHTED

AND WHAT HAVE I DONE
COULD THERE BE SUCH A SIN
IN THIS MAN I'VE BECOME
IN THIS MAN THAT I'VE BEEN

NOW CALLING TO GOD
FROM THE PIT'S VERY BOTTOM
I PRAY HE FORGIVES
EVERY SIN I'VE FORGOTTEN
THIS DAY

AND WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT
THAT MY FATE IT WOULD CONJURE
THIS TWIST IN THE ROAD
ON WHICH I HAVE WANDERED

EACH VISION AND DREAM NOW
COMPLETELY DISMEMBERED
TO GIVE ONE'S WHOLE LIFE
AND FIND NOTHING'S
REMEMBERED

AND WHAT GOOD IS A LIFE
THAT LEAVES NOTHING BEHIND
NOT A THOUGHT OR A DREAM
THAT MIGHT ECHO IN TIME

THE YEARS AND THE HOURS
THE SECONDS AND MINUTES
AND EVERYTHING THAT
MY LIFE HAS PLACED IN IT
BETRAYED
BETRAYED
BETRAYED

THE THINGS I HAVE DONE
THE PLACES I'VE BEEN
THE COST OF MY DREAMS
THE WEIGHT OF MY SINS

AND EVERYTHING THAT
I'VE GATHERED IN LIFE
COULD IT BE LOST
COULD IT BE LOST IN THIS
COULD IT BE LOST IN THIS
NIGHT

[Forever Zero]

Hmm, that is solid logic. They may be physically frailer (Hard to stand up to a machine for endurance...), but they also deal with infantry all the time and fight differently from a normal army. Well, it will definatly be an interesting fight regardless, since they will most likely have their own bag of tricks to deploy, relying on more evil cunning than brute strength to fight. I'm beginning to see a trick/anti-trick battle as Bandits use evil trick X, and Dezil desperatly tries to build anti-trick Y to counter...

[Darth SS]

I found the perfect for current Arc!

Evanescence-Going Under

Now I will tell you what I’ve done for you
50,000 tears I cry
Screaming,
Deceiving,
And bleeding for you
And you still won’t hear me
....go away....
Don’t want your hand this time
I’ll save myself
Maybe I’ll wake up for once (wake up for once)
Not tormented daily defeated by you
Just when I thought I’d reach the bottom

[chorus]
I dive again
I’m going under (going under)
Drowning with you (drowning with you)
I’m falling forever (falling forever)
I’ve got to break through
I’m, going under

Blurring and stirring the truth that comes out
(I don’t know what’s real and what’s not)
Always confusing the thoughts is my head
So I can’t trust myself anymore

I dive again
I’m going under (going under)
Drowning with you (drowning with you)
I’m falling forever (falling forever)
I’ve got to break through,
I’m, so go on and scream
Scream at me, so far away
I won’t be broken again
I’ve got to breathe
I can’t keep going under

I dive again
I’m going under (going under)
Drowning with you (drowning with you)
I’m falling forever (falling forever)
I’ve got to break through,
I’m, going under (going under)
Going under (drowning with you)
I’m going under


Guess who it's referring to?

[Zephie]

I thought this little piece by Manson fits Daemon well. It basically says that he's a god and he's drunk with power. I feel like it works because Daemon is, well, a god amongst ants and is probably going to end up rebelling against us (you said so yourself, IHMN ^.^; ). Powerful beyond reason and hungry for blood...sounds like Daemon to me. ^^; He's also screaming straight out through the chorus, which I feel adds to the illusion of power (well, Manson has to make an illusion, at least. Daemon certainly doesn't :D ). I imagine Daemon dressed in elaborate, decadent robes and sitting atop a ghastly throne in the middle of a bloody room, in a relaxed pose with his left arm draped on its armrest and his chin on his right fist and grinning so widely during this one. Heehee. n.n; Anyway, 'tis just a suggestion. Take it with a grain of salt.

"The Reflecting God", By Marilyn Manson - from "Antichrist Superstar"

Your world is an ashtray,
We burn and coil like cigarettes,
The more you cry your ashes turn to mud.
It's the nature of the leeches, the virgin's feeling cheated,
You've only spent a second of your life.
My world is unaffected, there is an exit here,
I say it is and then it's true.
There is a dream inside a dream,
I'm wide awake the more I sleep,
You'll understand when I'm dead.

I went to god just to see, and I was looking at me.
Saw heaven and hell were lies.
When I'm god everyone dies!
Scar, Scar, can you feel my power?!
Shoot here and the world gets smaller!
Scar, scar, can you feel my power?!
One shot and the world gets smaller!

Let's jump upon the sharp swords and cut away our smiles.
Without the threat of death, there's no reason to live at all.
My world is unaffected, there is an exit here,
I say it is and then it's true.
There is a dream inside a dream,
I'm wide awake the more I sleep,
You'll understand when I'm dead.

I went to god just to see, and I was looking at me.
Saw heaven and hell were lies.
When I'm god everyone dies!
Scar, scar, can you feel my power?!
Shoot here and the world gets smaller!
Scar, scar, can you feel my power?!
One shot and the world gets smaller!
Scar, scar, can you feel my power?!
Shoot here and the world gets smaller!
Shoot, shoot, shoot, motherf***er!
Shoot, shoot, shoot motherf***er!

"Each thing I show you is a piece of my death!"
No salvation (hah hah), no forgiveness (hah hah) [repeated]
"This is beyond your experience!"
Forgiveness! [repeated]

I went to God just to see, and I was looking at me.
Saw heaven and hell were lies.
When I'm god everyone dies!
Scar, scar, can you feel my power?!
Shoot here and the world gets smaller!
Scar, scar, can you feel my power?!
Shoot here and the world gets smaller!
Scar, scar, can you feel my power?!
Shoot here and the world gets smaller!
Scar, scar, can you feel my power?!
One shot and the world gets smaller!
Shoot, shoot, shoot motherf***er!
Shoot, shoot, shoot motherf***er!
Shoot, shoot, shoot motherf***er!
Shoot, shoot, shoot motherf***er!

***

And if not that one, then I suggest the Fierce Battle theme from Chrono Trigger (called Boss Battle 2). It plays during both Tyranos, the Moon Stone battle, and with Masamune. It's straight up, pounding kettle drums and trumpets, never letting up but stomping steadily forward -- never at a rushed pace, with timely flourishes. It reeks of power...but not just any power: it's a steady, brutal, and fierce strength that knows how to pace itself, never letting up for a moment except to taunt us or prepare for an extra heavy blow...and I feel that's Daemon: Steady, utterly overwhelming power that knows no bounds nor fatigue. Once it's going, it never, ever stops until its bloodlust has been satisfied...or until it's dead.

Pfft...as if that'd ever happen to a god. ;)

***

Somehow, FF7's Jenova theme (version 1, not Uber Jenova) sounds appropriate, too. It's frantic...hectic...grand, paced, fierce...a battle with Daemon's likely to get frenetic in a hurry, since he's so powerful and fast. But, I don't think it'd do the job nearly as well as "Reflecting God" and "CT Boss Battle 2". "One-Winged Angel" just sounds too grand for Daemon, who's not regal in any way. He's purely brutal and fierce...there ain't nothin' refined or toned with his style. ;) Same with "Jenova 2".

***

I'll be poofing away now... o.o;

[IHateMakingNames]

... Dead on. You are all ants, puny little ants.

And you'll see his 'style' once we get moving again, and once Dante is done with his Dante thing.

[Forever Zero]

I smell a challange... I think Dezil is getting an idea for an invention...

[Krylo]

He'd better, because I already know three or four ways that Ciaran could give the heros at least a fair chance against Dante... but I got nothing for Deamon.

[Darth SS]

*smacks* Bad Zephir! No more boosting IHMN's ego towards Daemon more than it already is.

[Mr. Viewtiful]

Just wondering...

Is the 'Dante thing' done yet? I'd have to say I'm curious...

[Krylo]

No... you'll KNOW when the Dante thing is done... because... well, you just will. Judging by the last thing Dante sent me in PMs.

[Forever Zero]

I'm not sure 100%, but let me put it this way. If the Dante scene was a cinematic, it would need a save point half way through...

[Darth SS]

It's called Xenosaga.

Oh goody, then we get Daemon running around being unstoppable.


Then we get plot advance...plot advance....and more plot advance! Then the happy little gerbils run around at the joy of a completed RP, yay!


Woah....what is in that stuff.......

[Forever Zero]

See, I try to warn people about taking illicit substances for just that reason SS...

I haven't played it, but the cut scene with saves is infamous, thus the reference.

And the top minds in the field of Fake Enigineering in the FF Universe are working on a solution to the Deamon problem as we speak...

[Darth SS]

Does it involve a really really really really really really really really really really really really really really *inhale* really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really big gun?

[Forever Zero]

No... but that's Brilliant! (Sorry, had to get it out of my system...)

While Big Guns are always an excellent addition to any RPG, the current solution involves no big guns. However, the final solution may include a big gun, just so we can say we have had a big gun in the RP... and because they're really big and shiny and fun for the whole family! This gives me an idea for the Omake thread...

[Krylo]

Oh yes, we should definately incorporate a big gun into the current solution...

[Darth SS]

Of course. There's not a problem in existance that can't be solved by shooting it enough times in the right places, with the right gun.

So....


OI-< (Daemon) + (Insert character image of big gun here) =

^
^ ^
^^^ ^^^
!!!!!!!!!!^^^^^ ^^^^^^!!!!!
< < < ^ (I'll stop now.)

MY SAD ATTEMPT AT AN EXPLOSION!

[IHateMakingNames]

Deamon is the thing that will connect everyone together, so he's allowed to run around being unstopable.

[Mr. Viewtiful]

...okay...

I think I've been skimming too quickly through this thread, but ever since when did Daemon hold the group together?

I like the shiny gun idea, though...we need one of those...

Regarding the Death-materia feilds (BTW, good idea krylo), wouldn't it kill any magitek pilot using it? Or would it be used by themselves without Magitek?

[IHateMakingNames]

He isn't at the moment, I said he is going to...

[Mr. Viewtiful]

I need to pay more attention then :D My bad.

[Darth SS]

Wouldn't having Daemon there drive Arc away?

I mean, he /has/ tried to kill him exclusively three times now.

[Krylo]

Obviously it would have to be used without pilots... probably as like... mines or something... or the pilots could have some sort of protection (like a miniature A-M field around themselves... after all, the magical field affects are still magic). For the most part, however, I didn't make it thinking it would be all that effective against your group, with Dezil in it and all... but rather just because it'd be cool to see it activated.

[IHateMakingNames]

Deamon tried to kill everyone, I've just pointed you out.

And you can use one of those mines on Deamon (If you get them before the end of the Dante thing).

[Mr. Viewtiful]

I just had an idea...

Couldn't 'death' feild be altered in some way to raise undead? Like glitching a 'life' spell inside a death field in a graveyard, or something. I bet Cieran would love an army of loyal undead at his command.

[Forever Zero]

SHHH, Don't give him any ideas!

But now that it's too late to prevent the idea from getting out, what he would need is a Zombie Field that casts the Zombie spell over a wide area.

[Krylo]

And you can use one of those mines on Deamon (If you get them before the end of the Dante thing).I kinda figured they wouldn't work on him for some reason or another... with the general reason being it'd be way too cheap for getting rid of a villain of his, eventual, caliber... but I don't know if we're even going to try it yet.

And yah... An undead field would be interesting... I'll make a note to have Ciaran meet with the Black Mage Council before Dante wipes them out (I assume he's going to because they attacked him), and find out how the whole necromancy/raising the dead bit works.

Edit: Or FZ could just point out the zombie spell that I forgot about for a second there... either or. Regardless, I won't have him work on that one for awhile...

Also: that reminds me... Dante mentioned the magesight thing in one of his posts... I was wondering if anyone who was trained in magic would have that, or if it's something only more powerful mages would have. I'm not really sure if Ciaran would have it or not... he's decent at black magic, but he's nowhere near powerful... (anything past a 'level one' spell would leave him tapped out...)

[IHateMakingNames]

Well, he was fighing high trained mage's council people, and they had no idea what was going on (I'm assuming your talking about that magic blade thing he was using), so I really doubt Ciaran can do it...

And it would.. Semi-work... (THe death field thing on Deamon)

[Krylo]

Well, they didn't know what was happening... I'm not sure if they could see the blades, or if they just had no idea how he was creating the blades... but yah, I was figuring he probably wouldn't be able to see it either... just wasn't sure.

[Mr. Viewtiful]

I'm makin' a new discussion thread, we've broken the post limit.