Squidi threatens to start making comics again

[Fifthfiend]

Shit guys, I think he might be serious (http://squidi.net/comic/index.php).

[ApathyMan]

Hey, you know what? His comic was good, so I'm glad it's coming back.

Sure he might be an prick, but he is a talented prick, nonetheless.

[Althane]

I kinda liked AMD. The guy, from what I have been told, is a total jackass, but he was kinda funny.

And I liked his spriting style.

[Fifthfiend]

Hey, you know what? His comic was good, so I'm glad it's coming back.

Sure he might be an prick, but he is a talented prick, nonetheless.

Incidentally I actually more or less liked Squidi's comic. Just not nearly as much as I like trashing the hell out of Squidi and his comic.

PS You stole my word (http://forum.nuklearpower.com/search.php?searchid=332580) I'm suing.

[Flying Zamboni]

LOLZ CUZ HE GOT MAD OVER OVER NUTHING M I RITE?

Look, the Penny Arcade incident was way overblown (it was both Squidi's and Gabe's faults really). Squidi sent a fairly polite e-mail to the penny arcade guys (I've read it) asking for help with the guy he thought was stealing his stuff and Gabe saw the words "lawsuit" and freaked out much more than he should have. Squidi didn't react in the best way and things just got worse. Add to that the fact that Squidi can't take criticisim very well and you get his absence from webcomics for the past year or so.

Regardless, he had a good comic and people like to blow the whole thing out of proportion.

[Fifthfiend]

LOLZ CUZ HE GOT MAD OVER OVER NUTHING M I RITE?

Look, the Penny Arcade incident was way overblown (it was both Squidi's and Gabe's faults really). Squidi sent a fairly polite e-mail to the penny arcade guys (I've read it) asking for help with the guy he thought was stealing his stuff and Gabe saw the words "lawsuit" and freaked out much more than he should have. Squidi didn't react in the best way and things just got worse. Add to that the fact that Squidi can't take criticisim very well and you get his absence from webcomics for the past year or so.

Regardless, he had a good comic and people like to blow the whole thing out of proportion.

Without making a big argument about all this, let me just say that

1. You're totally wrong about everything, and

2. Squidi's a jerk!
See it's funny cause I say I'm not gonna make a big argument of it, and then I make highly contentious and utterly unsubstantiated assertions that plainly incite argument! It's silly!

[Flying Zamboni]

1. I never said that he wasn't a jerk, just that the situation was blown out of proportion.

2. Please explain to me how I am wrong about everything. Not saying that I'm not, I very well could have missed some important detail. It's just silly to say "you're totally wrong" and not back it up.



LOL

[Fifthfiend]

2. Please explain to me how I am wrong about everything.

Easy.

I say you're wrong.

There now, that should clear things up nicely!

[DFM]

"Squidi.net" more like "Shitty.net"

God, I am so good at this.

[Arlia Janet]

Squidi's comic could be god-damned ambrosia in comic form and I still wouldn't read it. He carries himself with such an unprofessional attitude that I refuse to give his site an extra, undeserving hit.

[Thundergod Cid]

I'm exited about this. I liked the comic, even though Squidi himself is... somewhat less than likeable, to put it nicely.

It's kind of sad, though, that Squidi whined about this thread (http://cojawfee.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=26268&highlight=#26268) before it was even made.

[Althane]

What're the chances that FifthFiend, in real life, is a sweet and caring person/

Eh, just wondering.

Anyways, the comic is funny, and I really don't know anything about the whole Squidi incident, so unless it's a touchy subject (and you folks will tar and feather me (I know FF likes to! Oooh, innuendo!)), why the hell does half the internet hate Squidi?

[phil_]

why the hell does half the internet hate Squidi?Read the post on his front page, Althane. Fifth linked it in the first post. See those words there? See how they assert the utter, undeniable truth that you are an idiot who is incapable of understanding his brilliant work as are every other human being on the intarweb?

Now look at Cid's link. Same stuff.

That's why he's disliked.

[Jared Todd]

Well, I'll tell you one thing.. unless he comes up to me, and says "All your work sucks, and I hate you for it. Oh, and by the way, I killed your cat. and your little dog too!", then I don't think I'll judge him immediately from everyone calling him a jerk. and I don't even have a dog, so that would be hard. Have a cat though... but he's like.. 16. He's going to die soon anyway.

Once I saw the thread, I immediately read all 362 pages of the first part serie. and I got hooked. and I loved all the characters so much. and I loved the comic. and tommorow, I'm going to read more. Should people care who the author is? I mean, I'm waiting patiently for the beautiful voice quality of the next 8-Bit movie, but Starky's said he doesn't care about answering mail for the fans, and I didn't agree with it. Bad example, but.... I don't think I dislike any fellow creators of things very much, so Starky's pushing 'good example', I guess... not that I dislike him any. Just dislike not looking at mails... and if I get at all famous with anything I do, I'll probably side with him in a few months anyway...... okay, none of that had any point.
But yeah, it doesn't matter what anyone is personally. It just matters their talent, and what they can give to you. It's a society of consumers nowadays, right?

I'm kidding, if you can't tell... actually, I've gotten personally aquainted with several authors, and added two on MSN and got very close to them. But don't judge things on their authors, people. You should know better. The comic is great.

[DFM]

It's kind of sad, though, that Squidi whined about this thread (http://cojawfee.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=26268&highlight=#26268) before it was even made.

Is this person real? Is this all some elaborate joke?
Frankly, I don't believe I care much for this Squidi fellow at all. Out of curiosity, how far does this thing go back?

[Fifthfiend]

1. Just so's I've said it, I thought the guy's comic was pretty good.

It kinda fell off for a while but it was getting pretty good before the break.

2. I don't think it'd be half as funny if he didn't call himself squidi.

I mean even for a silly internet name, that's a silly internet name.

[MFD]

I kinda liked AMD. The guy, from what I have been told, is a total jackass, but he was kinda funny.

And I liked his spriting style.

I'll be sitting in the corner, giggling maniacally. 'Cause even I can't hold up his end of the spriting v. "pixel art" argument.

[Althane]

He's disliked because he's an arrogant asshole?

Fair enough. I don't have to like someone to read their comics.

[MFD]

No, no... that's not the point. I just found it funny that you both praised him and insulted him (at least in his eyes) in the same post, without realizing it.

'Cause he's pompous about not being a spriter.

[Flying Zamboni]

I don't think that his problem is so much arrogance as it is his total lack of being able to properly respond to criticism (although I guess you could classify that as a form of arrogance). As someone who has been reading his comic since about the time that it started and also has been keeping up with his blogs, I've noticed that he brings most of his problems onto himself by lashing out a bit too strongly at people who raise objections to (for example) a blog post. Instead of calmly responding to the criticizer, he usually calls them a name or insults them. This causes the other person to get pissed and it just gets worse and worse. Really, if you wade through the insults in his blog posts, he can make some very good points about things.

[Mirai Gen]

I don't think that his problem is so much arrogance as it is his total lack of being able to properly respond to criticism (although I guess you could classify that as a form of arrogance). As someone who has been reading his comic since about the time that it started and also has been keeping up with his blogs, I've noticed that he brings most of his problems onto himself by lashing out a bit too strongly at people who raise objections to (for example) a blog post. Instead of calmly responding to the criticizer, he usually calls them a name or insults them. This causes the other person to get pissed and it just gets worse and worse. Really, if you wade through the insults in his blog posts, he can make some very good points about things.
But the problem is all of his blogs are good ideas laquered down with Patented Squidi "Aren't I brilliant?" trademarks.

I'll be fair - I liked Squidi. Alot. It was hilarious for the first few years, but then he got all bent out of shape and tried to make it a drama. First you had the cast of inept characters constantly juggling around doing inept things, and they somehow manage to come up with a plan to save the day.

For some reason, right about the time he started doing his "War of Fate", one out of four episodes ended with a silent, Redmage style "DUNN DUN DUNNN!" Squidi, we don't care about your plot twists. You're a comedy; stop shifting gears.

I quit reading long before he quit writing. I'm sure he was losing fans because of his lack of humor, and he decided to call it quits. I'm sure he'd get more respect if he'd stop treating anything that was his comic - or vaguely similar - as some sort of holy relic that can't be tainted by *Gasp* FORUM AVATARS.

Just look at some of his blogs. Ideas he has are filled with implications that he wants you to praise him for his genius. You can also check out this (http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?t=11370) short lived topic, or this much more eloquent one. (http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?t=9618) If he wasn't so utterly
oblivious about what people can and can't do, and the fact that nobody knows more about webcomics than him...
EDIT:
Squidi's comic could be god-damned ambrosia in comic form and I still wouldn't read it. He carries himself with such an unprofessional attitude that I refuse to give his site an extra, undeserving hit.
Getting angry at Squidi and refusing to read his comic based off of him being a dick is like refusing to listen to a band you like because you met the lead singer and he's a cunt. I'm sure alot of published comic artists are pricks too. Hell, Mike and Chuck from PA could be complete and utter assholes for all I care.

I mean, hell, I read Squidi, and each time he said another thing in reference to the "Clash with PA" I just sighed and ignored him. I don't think it's fair to simply cross your arms and go, "I refuse to help him," especially since half of the internet has utter, rabid Penny Arcade fans and they have an even less eloquent reason than you do. It just doesn't seem fair.

[Kurosen]

refusing to read his comic based off of him being a dick is like refusing to listen to a band you like because you met the lead singer and he's a cunt.
Many people do this, it is not unusual.

Hell, Mike and Chuck from PA could be complete and utter assholes for all I care.

Chuck?

don't think it's fair to simply cross your arms and go, "I refuse to help him,"
There is no helping him. I'm not going to waste my time going into detail, but trust me on this. Any help you try to give him he will throw back in your face. The guy needs some serious therapy and big pills. Giving him any attention is only justifying his self-destructive behavior.

When I'm suckered into reading something of his, I can't stop thinking, "Someone who actually is as smart as he thinks he is wouldn't need to keep telling you how smart he thinks he is."

[Althane]

Hang on, he says he isn't a spriter? o.O

Ok, now I'm just confused.

[Muffin Mage]

I like squidi. I can see where he's coming from on most things, and I certainly understand his rabid protection of his work. I think he's a bit misguided, given the open nature of the internet, but whatever.

Besides, he makes an effort to do things with his comic that aren't entirely generic, and for that alone he at least doesn't deserve some of the unrelenting hatred he gets.

[Fifthfiend]

Hang on, he says he isn't a spriter? o.O

Ok, now I'm just confused.

I believe he prefers the term 'pixel artist'.

You know, like how siamese twins prefer 'conjoined' and hillbillies prefer 'children of the land'.

Getting angry at Squidi and refusing to read his comic based off of him being a dick is like refusing to listen to a band you like because you met the lead singer and he's a cunt.

I'm just saying, that's pretty much what I'd do.

[Archbio]

hillbillies prefer 'children of the land'

They prefer being called 'children of the soil' (but it ain't gonna happen).

Getting angry at Squidi and refusing to read his comic based off of him being a dick is like refusing to listen to a band you like because you met the lead singer and he's a cunt.

It's just that, for some people (including me), some knowledge about the artist can seriously taint the appreciation of the work.

[Lord Jon Snow]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO HE'S GOING TO DO BETTER THAN NUKLEAR POWER:stressed:

[DFM]

His talent and charisma are going to leave Brian in the dust. I for one am jumping ship and joining the winning team.

[Arlia Janet]

His talent and charisma are going to leave Brian in the dust. I for one am jumping ship and joining the winning team.

That won't happen as long as Brian has Tim Buckley's haircut.

[Kurosen]

No, it's the other way around! Buckley stole my haircut!

[Arlia Janet]

No, it's the other way around! Buckley stole my haircut!
Let's look at the evidence.

This is Buckley's hair circa 2003.
http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/images/tim_long.jpg

And here is you circa 2004. :P

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v629/Fortunasaga/brian2005.png


Anyways, I'm just poking fun at Brian's awesome charisma. If you don't get what joke I'm referencing, it was his "hostile takover" of Ctrl-Alt-Del. Squidi could never get away with that.

But I don't mean to get off topic.... Squidi sucks because he thinks "If you don't like me, you're dumb."

[The Wandering God]

Well boys and girls, what have we learned today?

Well, apparently saying your coming back for the fans is a total fucking copout. How about never running away with your tail between your legs in the first place? Of course, he makes a big deal about his return, BEFORE he actually does anything. All the reasons I can think of are rather negative (ex: Wanted to stir up controversy so his site could get new people, thinks he is sooooo awesome that his return will send shockwaves through the "industry", or simply to try to make his return look gracious instead of actually having the guts to say, "I never should have left."

Oh, and apprently Brian's a frickin' long hair hippy. Fight the power! (http://www.pvponline.com/archive.php3?archive=20060411)

The Wandering God

[DarkCORN!]

After reading the archives, I like this comic. He did not leave in the middle of a storyline. What are you talking about?

[Thundergod Cid]

He did not leave in the middle of a storyline. What are you talking about?

The comic just suddenly stopped without any sort of resolution or ending to the story. That's what we're talking about.

[Red Fighter 1073]

After reading the archives, I like this comic. He did not leave in the middle of a storyline. What are you talking about?

yeah, I also agree that his first season comics are good. About his personality, meh.. I agree that he acts like a prick in his blogs, but it doesn't show up in his funny first season comics (which I'm reading after hearing about this thread..) so I really don't care about his personality.

Also, DarkCorn, you're probably still reading the first season of his comics like me. Squidi apparently has made four seasons which the fourth was still in progress when he left.

[Althane]

1st: I'm wondering why webcomic artists have to have long brown hair. 'Tis freaky. Kinda.

2nd: After researching Squidi some, I personally think he's a prick, asshole, and what not.

But he makes a good comic. Defininatly above average, maybe not as awesome as 8BT (the sudden change in gears is probably to blame, as well as it just not having Brian's sheer wit).

[Fifthfiend]

1st: I'm wondering why webcomic artists have to have long brown hair. 'Tis freaky. Kinda.

I wouldn't say it's strictly (http://www.bit-tech.net/content_images/news_images/gabe.jpg) mandatory (http://www.bit-tech.net/content_images/news_images/tycho.jpg), or anything.

[Mirai Gen]

Many people do this, it is not unusual.
Really.

Huh. I always thought the other way around. I guess I stand corrected. I've always separated "asshole" from "Talent." It makes things much easier, especially if all their talent is shit.

Oh hahah! *slaps hand to knee* The funniness!
Chuck?
Okay, I don't know what the fuck I was on when I wrote that. Jerry, I mean. Jeeze. I thought I didn't do drugs...
There is no helping him. I'm not going to waste my time going into detail, but trust me on this. Any help you try to give him he will throw back in your face. The guy needs some serious therapy and big pills. Giving him any attention is only justifying his self-destructive behavior.I won't disagree with that. But that falls back to more of my whole "Talent and the person are two different things." I'll write him e-mails telling him about logical fallacies in his blogs, errors he makes, and telling him that he's a moron all I want, and I know it won't do any good. More than likely, he'll delete it on account of us "being idiots" because, well, because he's Squidi. Criticism of his work that isn't out of his mouth is just flames, and that's that.
When I'm suckered into reading something of his, I can't stop thinking, "Someone who actually is as smart as he thinks he is wouldn't need to keep telling you how smart he thinks he is."
My thoughts exactly. If he's funny, though, I'll throw all that shit out the window.
I'm just saying, that's pretty much what I'd do.
Yeah, I'm starting to get the feeling that I'm the only one in the 'room' that doesn't.

[Althane]

I wouldn't say it's strictly (http://www.bit-tech.net/content_images/news_images/gabe.jpg) mandatory (http://www.bit-tech.net/content_images/news_images/tycho.jpg), or anything.


Yes, but they're weird in the first place, they're excused. ;)

Ah, it's not like Kurtz has long hair either... I hope. ... ..

Does he?

[Fifthfiend]

Dude, you're about to wish you had never asked about Scott Kurtz.

Look into the abyss, and know true terror (http://scoop.diamondgalleries.com/news_images/6386_17066_19.jpg).

[The Wandering God]

Dude, you're about to wish you had never asked about Scott Kurtz.

Look into the abyss, and know true terror (http://scoop.diamondgalleries.com/news_images/6386_17066_19.jpg).
Fuck you, Fifthfiend. Fuck you, goodsir.

The Wandering God

[DFM]

Dude, you're about to wish you had never asked about Scott Kurtz.

Look into the abyss, and know true terror (http://scoop.diamondgalleries.com/news_images/6386_17066_19.jpg).

I knew somebody was going to do something like this, and look, it was the goddamn fifthfiend.

[Fifthfiend]

It seemed like the most horrible possible thing to do, so that's what I did.

PS: Cower before Jabba the Kurtz (http://www.joeandmonkey.com/index.php?comic=334)!

[Nique]

...

...

...Man, this is really like the 7th time he's left and popped-back up... Like a turd.

It's a little old-hat to do another comeback, don't ya think? Esspecially after the piss-poor way he treated his own fans. Not just readers. FANS.

I had a bad run-in with squidi after an admitedly poorly-thought-out attempt to purchase ad-space from him for my now-defunct-but-soon-to-be-non-defunct webcomic that USED-TA feature sprites heavily edited from 'RPG maker'...

Modesty forbids me from linking the url or telling you the name of my fantastic works...

Anyway, Squidi's got some mighty-powerful-stupid views on copyright law, and even mightylier-powerfuller-stupider views on PR and not-being-a-callous-egotist/jackass.

I think I might've once compared him to Batman. Lord only knows why.

On the plus side, the majority of us english speaking internet community members now have one of our favorite punching-bags back, barring the possibility of a personality reform on Squid's part... in which case, we can enjoy his comics guilt-free.

[The Wandering God]

It seemed like the most horrible possible thing to do, so that's what I did.

PS: Cower before Jabba the Kurtz (http://www.joeandmonkey.com/index.php?comic=334)!
Yeah, except Kurtz, unlike Squidi, has a pretty keen eye for humor in his own way. And he treats his fans with the kind of respect I admire. Also, being as willing to poke fun at himself as he is, certainly earns him points.

Kurtz is pretty cool people. And he makes an excellent foil for the PA gang.

And is it just me, or does the webcomic community seem to be a bit more honest about how they feel about other webcomics and what they are doing?

The Wandering God

[Fifthfiend]

Yeah, except Kurtz, unlike Squidi, has a pretty keen eye for humor in his own way. And he treats his fans with the kind of respect I admire. Also, being as willing to poke fun at himself as he is, certainly earns him points.

Yeah.

He sure is fat, though.

...

Fatty fatty fat-fat, fat fatty fat.

Fat!

[edit] Also, and for no particular good reason - webcomics (http://www.radioactivepanda.com/comic/106) drama (http://www.radioactivepanda.com/comic/107) as puppeteering (http://www.radioactivepanda.com/comic/108) parable (http://www.radioactivepanda.com/comic/109)!

[edit edit] FAAAAAAAT!

[Arlia Janet]

Now I only wish that someone good like Brian Caroll would threaten to start making comics again.

I've decided that I don't give two-shits about what Squidi does as long as he stays the hell away from me. If anything, it's good to have another easy target to make fun of.

[The Wandering God]

Yeah.

He sure is fat, though.

...

Fatty fatty fat-fat, fat fatty fat.

Fat!

[edit] Also, and for no particular good reason - webcomics (http://www.radioactivepanda.com/comic/106) drama (http://www.radioactivepanda.com/comic/107) as puppeteering (http://www.radioactivepanda.com/comic/108) parable (http://www.radioactivepanda.com/comic/109)!

[edit edit] FAAAAAAAT!
I guess it's lucky that Mr. Clevinger is allowing/having/whatever his fans to animate some episodes, huh? Hell, they were doing it before it was cool. That's how awesome 8-Bit Theatre is, bitches.

I really hope that guy is joking about Kurtz though. Anyone who looked at those and thought they were anything more than a joke has seriously got his head up his ass.

And, uh, anything you want to tell us Fifthfiend? Repressed feelings? (Well, that'd be a first for you, huh?)

The Wandering God

EDIT: Wait, Fifthfiend is banned now? Truly a dark day for the forces of humor.

[Mirai Gen]

Look at the "Bottlenecking the 'net" thread. He and Shiney agreed and so Shiney banned him.

[DFM]

YOU CAN'T FIRE ME CAUSE I QUIT!

You had it coming, buddy, with all your hollerin' and harrumphing.

I guess I'll be with Arlia Janet on this one and just sit back and laugh at all the funny things that Squidi says.

[Nique]

HE IS EVERYWHERE I TURN BUT BANNED STILL?!

fifth. You are turning my world upside down...

It's a good day for it, though.

Anyway, I plan on using the dis-interest in squidi's "pixel art" to further the popularity of mine. bwahaha. AND I DONT EVEN NEED TO STEAL ART FROM HIM WHICH HE WILL NO DOUBT ACCUSE ME OF ANYWAY!

:whee:

[Mirai Gen]

Anyway, I plan on using the dis-interest in squidi's "pixel art" to further the popularity of mine. bwahaha. AND I DONT EVEN NEED TO STEAL ART FROM HIM WHICH HE WILL NO DOUBT ACCUSE ME OF ANYWAY!
What you should do instead, is craft your own pixel art, then post it online, then say "I was inspired by Squidi.net..."

And let the rest come as it will. You can cackle with Count Dooku laughter during this time...or Blackarachnia laughter if you're a woman. Take your pick.

[Nique]

How evil.

That is *this* close to being worth the trouble. I wonder...

[Slime]

Squidi must be the most arrogant person ever in the history of the internet. His comic "requires a lot of the reader". It's hardly a complex storyline. Guy joins guild, meets girl, saves world, gets married, knocks her up, fights undead. There. There's an evil twin in there somewhere too. Oh, and some angst from someone who loves the hero.

[Nique]

His story arcs are deceptivly pleasent - you'd hardly imagine that such cute little things could come out of someone like him.

[Mirai Gen]

His story arcs are deceptivly pleasent - you'd hardly imagine that such cute little things could come out of someone like him.
But it's the fact that he treats his overly-generic plotline (Yes, it's overly generic to make fun of itself, we all know that) as though it's War and Peace:Maxim's Tale, like some sort of haloed Chuck Norris clone ascending from heaven. If his comic isn't the holy grail of comicry, he doesn't know what is.

What makes me laugh, is as a writer, I finished a 90,000 word project, and I constantly think, "You know, it's just not as good as most books out there." When (if) it gets published, I'll still say that, and I'll defend it to the grave.

There's something that feels so incredibly wrong about overly bragging about your own work, taking it and flaunting it as though your creative mind is genius. It offends me greatly.

[Jared Todd]

Squidi must be the most arrogant person ever in the history of the internet. His comic "requires a lot of the reader". It's hardly a complex storyline. Guy joins guild, meets girl, saves world, gets married, knocks her up, fights undead. There. There's an evil twin in there somewhere too. Oh, and some angst from someone who loves the hero.

Excuse me! There are plenty of times when I was like "Oh my god, this is a shock!" in that! and yes, by now, I've read right up to the end. and it was completely awesome, all of it. You could've used spoiler tags too.. Not to mention that when I found out Jenny was Shadow, and when Black Bart betrayed them, I literally screamed, and fell off my chair. Hard to do with a bright pink cast nailed to your sarcastic, pessimistic right leg.

There's something that feels so incredibly wrong about overly bragging about your own work, taking it and flaunting it as though your creative mind is genius. It offends me greatly.

Well, what you just said offended me greatly too. I'd like to believe I am a genius creative mind. But, really, anyone can gain a genious creative mind. I gained one.. it just takes some challenging of your brain every day, and watching a lot of movies that take your heart and run with it. and the thing is, when I was reading that comic, he took my heart and ran with it. It's a great comic that involves comedy, drama, and a little tiny bit of action and shock. I'd love to see more....

But, all that I said brings me to my next, completely un-related point. There are plenty other awesome webcomics out there that tackle things with the same quality-- too much, I'd have to say. So what if we have an incomplete story on the tip of our eyes and our ears? We don't need it to be complete. We can just watch other things with the same, or better quality. We don't have to have it be AMD... if someone's releasing a comic just for the fans when it would hurt them, personally, that's when you know you have to stop.

[Nique]

Differing opinions, even distasteful ones, are most certainly not discouraged by the general forum populace.

However, as a matter of fore-warning; If you want to defend squidi, say, in some kind of debate format (even an "unofficial" one) I'd say this is the wrong place to do it. As a matter of fact, the only good place to do it would be a site run/endorsed or otherwise favorably affiliated with squidi. I say this not becuase you shouldn't have such opinions, but becuase, within the realm of socially acceptable behavior, squidi has "exiled" himself several times.

I know I might be reading a lot into your post, mainly based on this bit

Well, what you just said offended me greatly too. I'd like to believe I am a genius creative mind. But, really, anyone can gain a genious creative mind. I gained one.. it just takes some challenging of your brain every day, and watching a lot of movies that take your heart and run with it.

...but it tends to leave a bad taste in people's mouth when you; 1) badmouth other *creative works* and 2) proceed to compare them to your *creative works* of a similar nature, and then 3) brag (arguably, subtly) about your *creative works*. As if the supposed shortcomings of others makes you brilliant, or that your own "candor" is evidence of your genius.

So, does squidi have a brilliant, creative mind? I'm not one to say 'no'. You obviously enjoyed his comics, to say the least. But you have to be pretty socially defunct (online only? We can only hope) to not see how bragging, and bullying makes people NOT LIKE YOU. It is THIS issue that is generally seen as squidi's problem, as opposed to how good or bad his comic was/is/will be(?)

No level of quality gives anyone the right to act superior to their fans, peers, or critics.

[Muffin Mage]

I am reminded suddenly reminded of Ayn Rand's books and I don't know why.

Is Squidi a genius? Not particularly. He has done some things which are unusual for webcomics: like doing everything in pixels and not recycling the same generic plotlines without doing anything to them.

Is he an asshole? Yes.

Does his assholery make his comic any worse? No, so shut up about it. If his comic is good, which it is, then it's good. It is, for the moment, a free Intarweb, so if you don't want to read his comic, you don't have to. And it looks like you all don't want to. But I'm looking forward to it, and I don't care how much of an asshole Squidi is, because he writes a good webcomic.

[Nique]

Does his assholery make his comic any worse? No, so shut up about it.

Well, it is for the moment, a free intarweb, so I shall talk about whatever I please.

and I don't care how much of an asshole Squidi is, because he writes a good webcomic.

...To me, this is like the women who tolerates physical abuse from husband/boyfriend becuase he is maybe good in bed(?).

[Muffin Mage]

1. Good show.

2. No. It would be more like tolerating Charlie Parker's intense drug addictions because he was the most amazing jazz saxophonist in the history of the instrument.

[Red Fighter 1073]

The thing I find funny about this whole thread is how ANYONE who speaks negatively in this thread is always saying how much of a prick Squidi is. But, they usually never talk about the comic. They usually use connecting statements something along the lines of "Squidi sucks, so his comic must suck too!" It's just something that I have noticed.

Also, I would think that any person who reads his comic before hearing about how arrogant is, will probably say that the comic is good. I think so, and I was kinda annoyed that Squidi can be bitchy but I know he can still make a good comic, which I'm pretty sure you guys have all heard tons of times before.

Here, I'll give you a situation. You would all say that you guys like Brian's comic right?? Well, let's say that hypothetically, Brian is a prick kinda like Squidi (which he really isn't), would you still like 8-Bit Theater?? I bet you probably wouldn't care as long as it didn't affect the comic itself because 8-bit theater IS an awesome comic, which everyone here will probably agree with. What some guys are implying right now is, if they were put in this hypothetical situation, that they would start to dislike 8-bit theater because Brian has become a prick (which he hasn't in real life) even though his bitchiness hasn't affected the comic.

[Fifthfiend]

The thing I find funny about this whole thread is how ANYONE who speaks negatively in this thread is always saying how much of a prick Squidi is. But, they usually never talk about the comic. They usually use connecting statements something along the lines of "Squidi sucks, so his comic must suck too!" It's just something that I have noticed.

Well, there's people who legitimately don't like Squidi's comic. It's just they tend to get drowned out by people who think Squidi's a prick.

But no, I mean, I've as much as said I like Squidi's comic. Just, not nearly as much as I like calling Squidi a prick.

Here, I'll give you a situation. You would all say that you guys like Brian's comic right?? Well, let's say that hypothetically, Brian is a prick kinda like Squidi (which he really isn't), would you still like 8-Bit Theater?? I bet you probably wouldn't care as long as it didn't affect the comic itself because 8-bit theater IS an awesome comic, which everyone here will probably agree with. What some guys are implying right now is, if they were put in this hypothetical situation, that they would start to dislike 8-bit theater because Brian has become a prick (which he hasn't in real life) even though his bitchiness hasn't affected the comic.

No, I mean, I'd totally still like his comic.

I'd just spend my time on Bizarro-Universe Sean Patrick Howard's forum, laughing about how Gerbil, or whatever in hell ridiculous internet name Earth-2 Clevinger would use to refer to himself, is a total silly prick.

And then Clevingerbil would cancel his comic, just so he could devote even more of his time to being a prick, and Lydia'd have to go get a second job so she could financially support Gerbilinger in his quest to be a total prick.

Then Bizarro-Brian would, I don't know, write a bunch of angry letters to Squaresoft telling them they stole his comic. And then a bunch of letters to New Orleans saying they stole his getting-dicked-over-by-hurricanes. And everyone'd be like, hey, that guy is a prick!

[The Wandering God]

No, I mean, I'd totally still like his comic.

I'd just spend my time on Bizarro-Universe Sean Patrick Howard's forum, laughing about how Gerbil, or whatever in hell ridiculous internet name Earth-2 Clevinger would use to refer to himself, is a total silly prick.

And then Clevingerbil would cancel his comic, just so he could devote even more of his time to being a prick, and Lydia'd have to go get a second job so she could financially support Gerbilinger in his quest to be a total prick.

Then Bizarro-Brian would, I don't know, write a bunch of angry letters to Squaresoft telling them they stole his comic. And then a bunch of letters to New Orleans saying they stole his getting-dicked-over-by-hurricanes. And everyone'd be like, hey, that guy is a prick!
Whoa, reading that gave me massive deja vu.

Also, he would go by Squirlo. As a testament to the mighty squirrel, nature's king of running and climbing things.

Also, Brian rocks because he is very cool on the forums as well. Even Squidi's fans say he isn't exactly forum friendly. Of course, that would require having a forum for his fans that he claims to care about.

And going about like his art is some untouchable thing? Yeah, I don't remember Brian ever complaining about forum avatars. Frickin' avatars for cryin' out loud!

The fact of the matter is, I have never seen any evidence of Squidi having a sense of humor about himself or his comic. And if someone else has, I'd be delighted to be illuminated.

The Wandering God

[Fifthfiend]

Actually the more I think about it, in this strange and disturbing vision of a fractured mirror's reflection held up to the world we know, I'd probably be, like, a well mannered Young Republican who thought Squirreli's interpretation of standing copyright law was entirely justified.

So really it's all pretty much a wash.

[Mirai Gen]

Well, what you just said offended me greatly too. I'd like to believe I am a genius creative mind. But, really, anyone can gain a genious creative mind. I gained one.. it just takes some challenging of your brain every day, and watching a lot of movies that take your heart and run with it. and the thing is, when I was reading that comic, he took my heart and ran with it. It's a great comic that involves comedy, drama, and a little tiny bit of action and shock. I'd love to see more....

But, all that I said brings me to my next, completely un-related point. There are plenty other awesome webcomics out there that tackle things with the same quality-- too much, I'd have to say. So what if we have an incomplete story on the tip of our eyes and our ears? We don't need it to be complete. We can just watch other things with the same, or better quality. We don't have to have it be AMD... if someone's releasing a comic just for the fans when it would hurt them, personally, that's when you know you have to stop.
Wow.
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Here's you.

I'm not sure what you're arguing. You're saying that people have genius minds, and that anyone can get one with enough work, and that Squidi's a good comic....

And then you completely ignore the fact that I'm not saying "Yes, well, Squidi acts like a genius, but HE'S TOTALLY NOT!" What I was saying is that, as a creative person (writer), Squidi's nonstop flaunting of his webcomic as though it's some sort of sacred artifact of the goddamn webcomic industry is extremely grating to me. Praise is fine. Repeating praise to ward off weak arguments as to why 'you suck' from jealous scrubs is fine too. But just look at some of his blogs. Each of them has a strong aspect of "Why I'm So Great," and frequently he calls upon Penny Arcade, Bigger Than Cheeses, PVP, and the like to be a comparison of "Why I'm Better Than Them."

I wish I could count how often he said "I've seen lots of shittier webcomics (Bigger Cheeses/PVP) blah blah"

What's worse is how he treats criticism. Any attempt that people have to say that he's a dick or that his comic sucks, he automatically assumes both are part of the same cluster, and that gives him enough reason to sigh, wave his hand, and dismiss them as just people who 'don't get it'. This isn't me saying "I don't like Squidi because he's a cunt," this is me saying "It offends me that he's so proud of his work, he'll spend every blog telling you just how great he is."

And might I add, I read his webcomic. Or at least I did, before he went all drama and tried to have half of his comics ending with an implied "Dunn dunnn dunnn!" instead of something I could laugh at.

When you talk about your webcomic and mention doing a sort of "Special Edition" when it's only about two years old, I think you're just a bit too arrogant for your own good.

[Nique]

Actually the more I think about it, in this strange and disturbing vision of a fractured mirror's reflection held up to the world we know, I'd probably be, like, a well mannered Young Republican who thought Squirreli's interpretation of standing copyright law was entirely justified.

So really it's all pretty much a wash.

...I would probably be on some kind of 'girls gone wild' video, or the bizzaro-earth equivilant.